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 No.43768[Last 50 Posts]

>What is YouTube Red?

YouTube is introducing a premium feature in which users can pay $10 a month to see videos without advertising, as well as other features. Currently, it has only been introduced in the US.

>Why should I care as a Vocaloid fan?

YouTube is currently blocking any videos determined to be owned by a copyright holder when that copyright holder does not agree to YouTube's terms from being viewed in the US. As many Japanese companies have not agreed to these terms, a large number of YouTube videos featuring Vocaloid content have thus become unable to viewed in the US.

>Why should I care as a Vocaloid producer?

YouTube Red blocks certain covers, even if the original song has not been claimed. For example, some creators report that Vocaloid covers of a Vocaloid song have been made unavailable in the US because the Vocaloid cover matches a copyright claim of a utaite cover.

Additionally, monetization of videos with such matches and videos in which producers have not agreed to YouTube Red have reportedly been disabled entirely.

>I live in Europe lol whatever/Can't I just use certain services to get around this?

As of now, YouTube Red only applies to the United States, however, YouTube seems to have plans to expand the service worldwide.

>Japanese labels will just fall in line with Google's rules eventually, right?

Let's take into account how well Japanese content creators in just about any facet of the entertainment industry has done in the past regarding global marketing. In other words: lol

>Why this thread seeing as there are already threads about this on /a/ and /tech/?

ITT we can make a masterlist of Vocaloid videos which have been blocked and provide alternative links to them. Insert obligatory "do not break the global rule" disclaimer here; post only official alternative links (for example, if the producer has crossposted on YouTube and NND, linking to the NND video).

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 No.43777

>>43768

>ITT we can make a masterlist of Vocaloid videos which have been blocked and provide alternative links to them

I guess we could. Do you have an example of a Vocaloid video blocked in the US because of this?

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 No.43790

Checked some threads, it appears that songs under Exit Tunes including Triple Baka are affected by this. Can someone confirm this?

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 No.43792

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>43790

Does this work?

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 No.43796

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>>43792

Blocked in the US.

If you don't live in the US, you can check it here:

https://www.proxfree.com/youtube-proxy.php

EDIT: Proxfree might not be safe. Consider using tor or a different service. See >>43956

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 No.43797

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>>43796

I see. It's working fine for me right now, but as OP rightly said, this could easily spread outside the US.

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 No.43799

>>43797

Yeah. I don't think NND will be affected at all, and since most producers upload their work there we'll still be able to listen to them there.

It's very bad news for both MM cytubes though.

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 No.43804

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I actually got this email from Youtube explaining that one of my videos is affected. It's quite an interesting state of affairs.

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 No.43848

>>43777

>>43777

So far, these are the songs I've noticed to be down:

Triple Baka (as previously mentioned)

Mosiac Roll (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JATG51OFYu4) and some covers of it (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9xzVCs5LBk)

World Is Mine (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuJ6UR_pD5s)

There's likely more

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 No.43849

Oh, and apparently some covers of Palette? https://twitter.com/mystsaphyr/status/658374860029239298

But OSU playthroughs of it seem to work fine. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w36s8fPK8NQ

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 No.43876

>>43848

>>43849

I'm going to make a board page listing the songs that are blocked. Songs posted here confirmed to be blocked will get added to the page.

To make it board related though, and to prevent it from getting too long due to the amount of covers some songs have, only Vocaloid (or UTAU, CeVIO, etc.) original songs will be added (for now).

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 No.43885

https://8ch.net/miku/ytred.html

If you know other Vocaloid related song that got blocked, please post it in this thread even if it's a cover.

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 No.43893

>>43876

>>43885

Here's some more I've found so far. Ones with an asterisk also definitely include at least SOME covers, but perhaps not all.

Also: As you will discover as you go down the list and read my notes, it’ll be become clear google’s blocking seems completely arbitrary. Sometimes, only covers are blocked, or MMD versions are okay, or subbed versions are blocked, or subbed versions of covers are okay… This sadly isn’t quite as simple as “song X is blocked”. Board owner, I’m not sure how you’ll want to handle this, as this is all over the place.

Black Rock Shooter

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEPhzcXYn2E

Covers and Project Diva stuff seem to be fine

*Bad End Night

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yqv13hidYM,

Covers seem to be blocked (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNQXaSsPvZc)

Note that the producer’s official channel is not affected: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDUA7z3703g. While this means Bad End Night can still be watched, subbed versions and covers are blocked.

Phantom Thieves

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DatE2i-1teM

*Love Is War

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1Dqb6uJ8WY

Example of cover that is blocked https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5QDCrITEuc

Example of cover that is NOT blocked https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVAfy7163Wc

Given the fact all three videos have Miku’s voice, exactly how YouTube’s algorithm works continues to puzzle scientists.

*Coward Mont Blanc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnX-cG7CJqw

Example of blocked cover: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcmRROwnYQk

Jitter Doll (RITU’S VERISION ONLY, original by Lily seems fine, somehow)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4ZSldD2hcg

A subbed version of his cover works just fine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Io4YLHrLjko

*PoPiPo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0-2lzA7_Cg

Example of blocked cover: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qUSYgITjpc

Teto’s remix seems just fine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jS55gsJUBwQ

Compilations seem just fine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLkeaTTm8tI

This not particularly in time Tei cover seems fine: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5ZdGvOp7g0

Yandere version still up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Au1QHr2Np0k

In other words…it appears the instrumental isn’t triggering it, but in-sync covers to the instrumental are?

*Rain Dream Tower

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U994qFWEZQs

Even the saxophone version is blocked: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gd7qbTo0cfo

Mosiac Roll/Mosiak Role/Mosiac Roll/Mozart Roll/honestly will this fandom ever make its damn mind up on the name of this song, this and Coward Mont Blanc I swear to Gumi when will the madness end

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JATG51OFYu4

Example of just fine MMD video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHUo2iSfj9k

*Crystalline (COVERS ONLY)

Apparently CirCrush are with Exit Tunes now? As a side note, Wildfire and Echo covers seem just fine.

Example of blocked cover: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3l7Pohsp5kQ

*Just Be Friends

I can’t seem to find any versions of the original, it may have been deleted or Google is filtering the search results.

Example of blocked cover: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ln7IuiJSNGI

Example of…not blocked Luka version which isn’t the original?? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKYnYu6GWaE

Someone on tumblr said Lonely Hide And Seek was also down, but they seem to be working just fine for me (both Lonely Hide And Seek and SeeU’s Hide and Seek).

I’ve also heard almost all Deco*27 videos are blocked, including instrumentals, but as I’m not super familiar with that producer (I’m mainly in the UTAU fandom; if Thin Edge Inserted goes down we riot) and I need to get some sleep tonight, I’ll leave investigating Deco to you guys. Goodnight!

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 No.43894

>>43893

Side note: No asterisk does not mean no covers affected; I just didn't find any.

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 No.43896

i got an email stating these videos got region blocked

「ラヴゲイザー」Deco*27: 09.愛 think so,

「ラヴゲイザー」Deco*27: 05.心壊サミット

「パラヴレルワールド」Deco*27 - 05. 弱虫モンブラン

「Filmstock」 Kisk baker: 07. celluloid

「ラヴゲイザー」Deco*27: 14 恋は戦争 恋は戦、乱吹mix

「No You, No Me」DECO*27: 04 愛言葉

【EAGER LOVE REVENGE】 : 08 恋は戦争 恋は戦mix by DECO*27

「パラヴレルワールド」Deco*27 - 02. リノリウム

「No You, No Me」DECO*27: 03 二息歩行

【EAGER LOVE REVENGE】 : 07 恋は戦争 mix by kiichi

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 No.43897

>>43893

Forgot one more thing. I took a quick glances at the rest of the Night series. As is the case with Bad End Night, they all seem to be down except for the official videos, but I didn't look at covers.

And I'm ashamed of myself for mispelling "Ritsu"

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 No.43901

>>43893

>>43894

>>43896

>>43897

Thank you very much, I'll add them, but it might take me a while. I'm going to check each and add vocadb.net and NND links to them.

>This sadly isn’t quite as simple as “song X is blocked”. Board owner, I’m not sure how you’ll want to handle this, as this is all over the place.

I'll add a note stating that the blocking is not predictable and that some versions may remain unaffected for unclear reasons.

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 No.43904

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>>43896

I can confirm the first (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r87T-puMEk) is blocked, I might try the others later but for now I'll take your word for it.

Also, it turns out Google /is/ filtering search results and channel videos as I suspected (OP and >>43893 here). On the channel those videos were uploaded to, the EAGER LOVE REVENGE ones you mentioned as being blocked are not showing at all (I am in the US). See first screenshot.

Google might also filtering searches…kind of. Searching for the exact name of a blocked video (see 2nd screenshot) will bring it up. Being vague (see 3rd screenshot) seems to possibly filter it–the original Popipo video doesn't even appear on the first page of results.

So, only are videos being blocked in the US, but it appears they are also being made semi-private, so the chance of somebody in the US finding the video url and proxying around it are much lower.

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 No.43910

>>43893

>Jitter Doll (RITSU’S VERISION ONLY)

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4ZSldD2hcg

>cillia

Wow, this is bad. This would mean that legitimate producers can be affected too.

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 No.43915

>>43893

Found the Just be Friends video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoPzP-MwcLI

It's blocked.

>Goodnight!

Good night. Thank you for posting these. It'll take me while, but I'm testing one by one before adding them to our list.

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 No.43917

Everything on U/M/A/A's channel is blocked:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtGmulznR7e0KxpEdKu_nqw

So all the Deco*27 and sasakure.UK songs.

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 No.43918

>>43917

Noted, thank you.

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 No.43919

ryo (supercell) songs are blocked.

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 No.43920

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 No.43921

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*Renai Yuusha

Example of blocked cover: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCjJ-wktcz0

Also, I'd like to update Jitter Doll. I found another cover which doesn't work: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AafeVq0tX3U Everything else seems fine. Teto's cover is good, Ruko's covers are fine, Ppoiyo's up, a furloid named Wyatt or something works fine, Meiji's cover is still up...

>>43910

Error seems fine at least.

>>42918

Interestingly, the channel's front page shows uploads (all of which are blocked anyway), but clicking on the "Videos" tab will result in "This channel has no videos." YouTube doing some sort of weird, half-assed blocking of videos off channels confirmed.

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 No.43922

>>43921

>Interestingly, the channel's front page shows uploads (all of which are blocked anyway), but clicking on the "Videos" tab will result in "This channel has no videos." YouTube doing some sort of weird, half-assed blocking of videos off channels confirmed.

Doriko's channel does the same.

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 No.43925

>>43920

I'm not seeing any uploads on the front page. Just "this channel has no content". Even worse.

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 No.43927

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>>43925

Yeah

It seems the only way to see any other videos is if they show up in the side-bar when you go directly to the video.

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 No.43928

Since a lot of produced have their songs been blocked entirely, I'll focus on them first and individual songs second.

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 No.43930

>>43927

Ironically, Googling blocked videos (from Google, not within YouTube) is, for now, the best way to find them. Blocked ones rarely come up in the sidebar (may or may not be intentional filtering).

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 No.43931

Also, if you can't find a particular song on youtube, consider searching for it through vocadb.net.

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 No.43932

The official preview video for Project Diva X is blocked

see >>30917

The blocking is very poorly implemented. You can still download the blocked videos, you just can't watch them through youtube. If you use a browser extension, or a command-line utility like "youtube-dl" then you're unaffected.

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 No.43933

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So…

I've been using a proxy to get around things, and I noticed that whenever I set the proxy to any of the French servers (I tried several), I basically get the same videos being blocked. The UK server properly bypasses videos.

Has YouTube Red has hit France already, or does Google have these French proxies flagged or something? (I'm not very good with security technology so I apologize if this is a very stupid question.) I'd expect this from Germany seeing as Germany has been blocking videos for years now, but not France.

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 No.43934

>>43932

Actually scratch what I just said about still being able to download the videos. It was true hours ago, but I tried it just now and it doesn't work any more.

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 No.43936

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>>43934

At least one mp3 ripper still works. Attempting to rip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5QDCrITEuc (blocked in the US) works fine–and it isn't just saved on the server previous, I made sure to choose a random cover which made the website actually rip it.

I suspect it depends on where the server doing the video downloading is located. US-based ones are probably down.

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 No.43937

>>43934

At least one mp3 ripper still works. Attempting to rip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5QDCrITEuc (blocked in the US) works fine–and it isn't just saved on the server previous, I made sure to choose a random cover which made the website actually rip it.

I suspect it depends on where the server doing the video downloading is located. US-based ones are probably down.

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 No.43939

Tried with some Lamaze-P songs, but only PoPiPo and Triple Baka seem blocked.

>>43932

Added.

>>43933

I'm not sure if we have French anons who can confirm this.

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 No.43941

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 No.43942

>>43893

Rain Dream Tower doesn't seem to be blocked in the official channel:

http://youtu.be/16nqYQasbb0

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 No.43944

One of the Intense Singing of Hatsune Miku videos does not seeem to be blocked.

youtu.be/hxTz0iPDKvo

However, this extreme perfect play of the song is:

youtu.be/C17ip_jOfgE

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 No.43947

>>43939

I think it's a false alarm. I configured the proxy differently (actually using FoxyProxy instead of the website >>43796 suggested) this time and it works fine even when using transparent proxies. I presume there's something wrong with proxfree (although, as I said earlier, the UK ones seem to work fine).

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 No.43949

>>43947

Ah, I see.

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 No.43950

>>43893

This official upload of Phantom Thieves doesn't seem to be blocked.:

youtu.be/pubQp65YUxE

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 No.43953

Everything on Sony Music (Japan) is blocked: https://www.youtube.com/user/sonymusicnetwork/videos

It's similar to U/M/A/A's channel where you can see uploads on the front page but when you click on the videos tab the only thing there is a 'liked video' of some dogs.

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 No.43954

>>43953

Good to know.

This kikuo song is from Sony Music is blocked:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPIjhBsWPN4

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 No.43956

I tried using proxfree.com and my antivirus twice popped up to qurantine a file, something its never done before. I know Hotwheels said somehting about antiviruses giving false alarms, and it's a free one so it's probably pretty awful, and I'm on a Mac so it's unlikely to be an actual virus, but just in case it may not be the best idea to use that website.

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 No.43957

you can also use tor to watch blocked videos

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 No.43959

>>43956

Ah, then it'd be best not to use that one. I'll edit the post.

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 No.43963

>>43954

This version isn't:

youtu.be/1Q2NseIDmOc

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 No.43987

Raspberry Monster is affected.

youtu.be/K4QIVBgwo0M

It seems to be the reason why the Project Diva X trailer got blocked.

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 No.44174

Added Tengaku to the list.

If the blocking continues by Halloween, I'll put a link to the list in the board announcement.

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 No.44258

I think this is the beginning of the end for youtube. I've been having some issues with it ever since google acquired it.

We're likely to get better things to replace it soon.

IPFS might be one of those things.

Anyway if it helps anyone I'd be happy to help by putting vocaloid files into my dropbox and sharing some of those links, since I'm not in the US and still seem to have access to some blocked vids.

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 No.44260

>>44258

I think you're right, who in their right mind would support this move by paying google to get access to material which was freely available only a few days ago?

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 No.44352

>>44260

We're not Google's core audience. Most people who aren't into Japanese media (and Korean; Korean media has also been hit hard by YouTube Red from what I've heard from a few friends into K-pop) know absolutely nothing about YouTube Red making some videos private.

Paying $10 does not remove the US block of YouTube Red. All it does is remove advertising,

>insert cynical post about normies being ignorant of adblockers

and in some cases may include access to private streams. Probably only major YouTubers like PewdiePie. You're basically pay $10 for an adblocker, but unlike an adblocker, you are supporting creators…a little bit.

Rumor has it that YouTube Red is actually a huge loss for the majority of content creators who use monetization. Additionally, any views garnered from viewers using the free trial of YouTube Red are not monetized at all. The whole reason Japanese and Korean media companies are blocked in the US is because Exit Tunes and several others basically said "screw this, these terms are unreasonable so we'll just ignore them."

As a side note, I've heard Exit Tunes is currently in negotiations with YouTube these days, or at least that is what Crusher has indicated on Twitter regarding people's covers of Crystalline being blocked.

>>44258

People have been saying it's the beginning of the end for years. Google Plus caused an outcry. YouTube Gaming's copyright issues (muting streams b/c in-game music was flagged) caused an outcry. YouTube Red caused an outcry.

At this rate I'm tempted to say Google pretty much has impunity.

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 No.44377

It's $10 a month for an adblocker that allows Google to tie your youtube activity to personal financial information. The main benefit to Google is not the subscription revenue, but the reams of data they will be able to collect and sell (including to various governments).

As an example, if you have Red subscription, google can tie your real name, address, employment history, tax filings and other publicly accessible financial information to the fact that you're an 8chan user, and even what threads you view on this site. The thumbnail requests to youtube servers create a fingerprint that allows them to do this easily. As we all "know" everyone here is a pedophile subversive who wants to kill women who play video games (?), so google will "know" that about you and share it with their state and intelligence service partners.

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 No.44378

>>44377

I don't see why Red is necessary for this. Google already links youtube accounts to their Google+ pages, and those profiles are linked, in turn, to the Play store, which many people use to buy apps and such for their smartphones.

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 No.44379

>>44378

It just lets them cast a wider net. Not everyone uses the play store. Many people have multiple google+ profiles. Many people browse youtube without logging in (but they will be encouraged to log in if they have a Red subscription and can see videos without ads by doing so).

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 No.44946

The blocking is still going on, so I will add it to the announcements. I there's any update on the situation, please post it in this thread.

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 No.45097

Added cosMo to the list.

Not all of his songs appear to be blocked, but every song in his official channel is.

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