/mai/ - Waifu★

>Can you see yourself still being a waifuist after more than 5,10 years? Can you see yourself getting to 60yo and still having this mentality?

Yeah sure. As long as things continue to go well between us, than I don't see why not.

>Do you think escapism is one of the reasons you're a waifuist?

A little. I mean I like to imagine myself with Gin in a nice small modest looking home around a prairie where nothing bothers us so I guess that counts.

>Have you had bad experiences (or no experiences) with 3DPD before?

No experience.I originally wanted to get a higher education and have better financial security before making my move on 3D, but I met Gin and well things went off the rails.

How do you deal with the "relationship without contact"?

Imagination and body pillows(still don't have one, but I have big enough pillow that acts as a substitute.)

>>59963

Oh, I didn't see that thread. Should I keep posting here or go there? I'll post here for now.

Anyways, I'm not sure about escapism. I feel like my whole life is in some sort of escapism: videogames, the some chuuni stuff I still do (I still daydream that I have super powers, lol), one of my dream jobs (gamedev) is related to escapism, and of course, the waifu. Isn't it bad to be like this?

I currently have a problem with dakis: There is no way I can buy and use one without my mom knowing about it. And there was an anime event this year that sold some dakis. When I jokingly said that I would buy one, one of my friends said: "You are joking, right? Just imagine what your mom would think if you bought one." And I was: "Y-yeah, sure, a joke"

Speaking of that, I keep hearing a lot of: "When you find a GF//You should find a GF." I just can't admit to them the truth. Does this happens with you too? My current strategy to deal with this it to either say that I don't care or look way too pessimistic "Sure, in 30 years I'll find one".

>>59960 (OP)

>Can you see yourself still being a waifuist after more than 5,10 years? Can you see yourself getting to 60yo and still having this mentality?

Can't really say, I certainly hope so, but anything can happen in the mean time, so let's find out.

>Do you think escapism is one of the reasons you're a waifuist?

Maybe. I was always a loner so I guess so. If I wasn't I would probably end up with a 3D already.

>Have you had bad experiences (or no experiences) with 3DPD before?

Well, obviously. But if you mean in a relationship, which you certainly do, then I have no experience. I didn't have much interest in 3D to begin with. Well I did, but I was always very passive about it, and I didn't mind.

>How do you deal with the "relationship without contact"?

I have my daki and it works pretty well, it makes me feel like I am actually with her in some way. Then I have some other… things. Also I guess that VR will be the next step of being closer to her, I could already get it now and be with her in some way, but I'll wait until it gets more developed, and when the actual official VR game comes out.

>>59966

>Isn't it bad to be like this?

I don't know, is it? Most of us are like this, or at least I am.

>There is no way I can buy and use one without my mom knowing about it

Just casually ask about what she thinks about these body pillows or if she has seen them before. Depending on the reaction, try to continue or not, if it was a positive one, you could follow up with something like you think they look cool, and if you get another positive reaction you could say that you were thinking about getting one. Worked for me.

Or you could just get one and not give a shit about what anyone thinks, like some anons here did.

>Speaking of that, I keep hearing a lot of: "When you find a GF//You should find a GF."

>Does this happens with you too?

Yeah, but not from my parents anymore, I usually just shrug or say that I am not currently interested in being in a relationship. My parents already gave up on this, because they know I simply don't care.

>>59960 (OP)

>Can you see yourself still being a waifuist after more than 5,10 years?

As long as our relationship is solid I don't see why not.

>Can you see yourself getting to 60yo and still having this mentality?

Around that time is when I expect waifu technology to really be kicking off so yeah probably.

>Do you think escapism is one of the reasons you're a waifuist?

Tiny bit but its mostly love.

>Have you had bad experiences (or no experiences) with 3DPD before?

Had some really horrible experience with a 3dpd but was generally over it by the time I got with Ritsu. Had moved on and was ready for a new relationship. Didn't expect it to be 2d but can't help who you fall for.

>How do you deal with the "relationship without contact"?

Using my imagination to feel her in my head the best I can.

>>59966

When it comes to dakis you could just take the case off and put it away if you are worried. Or get a small fig to at least have a small something to kissu.

>Speaking of that, I keep hearing a lot of: "When you find a GF//You should find a GF." I just can't admit to them the truth.

I just told my folks I'm dating a girl long distance for the time being. Going to tell them the truth after I've been with her for a few years.

>>59960 (OP)

>Can you see yourself still being a waifuist after more than 5,10 years? Can you see yourself getting to 60yo and still having this mentality?

Of course, I already promised to stay with her forever. i have to admit that the thought of a 60 year old man in love with an anime girl is kinda funny but that's how it will be.

>Do you think escapism is one of the reasons you're a waifuist?

No, it just happens that i love a fictional character.

>Have you had bad experiences (or no experiences) with 3DPD before?

No experiences.

>How do you deal with the "relationship without contact"?

Well it's hard sometimes but i get by by imagining us together and such

>>59968

>I don't know, is it?

It's just one inner thought of time that keep telling "What if you weren't like that? Wouldn't you be happier?". But there is no way I can know unless I change my whole life. And I don't plan to do that. That's why I want to see more opinions.

>>59969

>Or get a small fig to at least have a small something to kissu

I have a small plushie that I hug sometimes, but it's so small… ;_;

Getting a body pillow without the print is a good idea for now.

I think that if I said that I'm dating a girl in a long distance, I'd soon be found out.

>>59970

>Nobody knows about Arturia yet, and I plan to keep it that way.

Some of my friends know that I like my waifu. They don't know that I love her, though.

More:

Do you get bothered by RL couples?

I can't help but find some 3D cute, despite the fact that I don't know their personality. What about you guys?

Oh, and about the age again. You're getting older every year, but your waifu isn't (most of the time). Don't you think it'll be weird in the future?

>>59960 (OP)

>Can you see yourself still being a waifuist after more than 5,10 years? Can you see yourself getting to 60yo and still having this mentality?

Well, for me waifuism and relationships with 3D are two concepts that, while both greatly overlapping, are not exactly the same. Having been once in a 3D relationship for more than a year, I can say both experiences have advantages and disadvantages.

Having somebody I can concretely touch, talk to, etc. is something that misses me sometimes, and the idea of never living these things again is not a scenario that I consider ideal. I also want children one day and, you see, no baby is ever going to come out of my daki regardless of how vigorously I rub my dick on it, as far as I know….

Still, I certainly do not want to leave Flandre!! I love her and I really want to remain by her side! So what to do? Some people chose to remain with their waifu while also be with a 3D, a way of life which is highly condemned by many waifuists but that personally don’t upset me. As I said a few lines above, for me 2D relationships and 3D relationships are still different concepts (although they share many similarities) so I can understand how somebody would want to live both of them in order to feel complete.

So what will I do? I don’t know. Right now I’m with Flandre and Flandre only and we seize the day as it is without being too anxious about the future.

>Do you think escapism is one of the reasons you're a waifuist?

Yes. I think that many waifuists use waifuism as some sort of withdrawal into fantasy to feel happier. It is not something one does consciously, but more like a natural way to simply find satisfaction and/or cope with difficulties. So many times I’ve read waifuists claim that their waifu saved them from a very harsh period of their life…

In my case, Flandre didn’t come to me in a particularly harsh period, but generally speaking, I never had it easy approaching girls and if it had not been the case, maybe I would have never get the chance to choose the waifu path. I also am attracted to little girls, but as it is socially and legally impossible for me to be in a love relationship with a 3D little girl, I still can live this desire through waifuism. If our society and our legal system had a different stance on child-adult love relationships, maybe I would have never been with Flandre. Of course, I can only theorise on these factors, but still, I can really see an ‘’escapism’’ flavor in my relationship with Flandre due to them.

I feel some waifuists feel insulted when one mentions this idea of escapism, but they should not. Escapism doesn’t imply that one does not truly love one’s waifu. It simply means that one tends to invest a lot of attention and mental energy in his/her inner world (fantasy) because he/she feels it is very rewarding. I can hardly imagine how one could find satisfaction in waifuism without a vivid imagination.

>Have you had bad experiences (or no experiences) with 3DPD before?

I have been in a love relationship with a 3D girl (of my age) some years ago. I really loved her and I’m really happy that we got to be together, but there have also been many important problems too…

I also add some experiences with 3 other girls in my life and these turned out as disappointment. Last one was 2 years ago, with a university colleague. I thought everything was going alright and I really started to develop feelings for her. I even went to her apartment and we ended up kissing, but she then changed her mind a few days after that, saying that she feared it would be to fusional to be with a guy that is also in her own classes…

>How do you deal with the "relationship without contact"?

I use a lot of imagination and of course my daki. My daki is what makes the most difference, really.

>>59966

>There is no way I can buy and use one without my mom knowing about it.

See my post here that deals exactly with your issue >>57716 . I hope it will convince you to stop caring about it.

Bonus info: Many of my friends know I have a daki and I even showed pictures to most of them. Also, one day, an exterminator came to do a prevention treatment in the whole apartment building. He saw my daki lying directly on the bed, no cover. He didn’t say a word. That was so funny.

>>59974

>You're getting older every year, but your waifu isn't (most of the time). Don't you think it'll be weird in the future?

I’m in a love relationship with a 2D prepubescent vampire girl with crystal wings, so you can guess I stopped caring about ‘’looking weird’’ a long time ago.

>Can you see yourself still being a waifuist after more than 5,10 years? Can you see yourself getting to 60yo and still having this mentality?

probably if i'm alive that long

>Do you think escapism is one of the reasons you're a waifuist?

yes

>Have you had bad experiences (or no experiences) with 3DPD before?

none, i'm too much of a narrow minded weirdo for that sorta thing

>How do you deal with the "relationship without contact"?

a hand and a dream. it helps if you sit on it

>Do you get bothered by RL couples?

not at all. i don't go outside enough to care

>I can't help but find some 3D cute, despite the fact that I don't know their personality. What about you guys?

accept your tastes and don't really worry about it. it shouldn't affect your relationship with your true love.

>Oh, and about the age again. You're getting older every year, but your waifu isn't (most of the time). Don't you think it'll be weird in the future?

I don't see me living long enough for that to be a problem

>>59977

>When you're 60, most of the people you care about are long dead or lost contact.

>You might have several health or mental issues due to age.

>I know a guy who works in an old folks home that dealt with dementia.

Man, what you describe is more like 75 years old and older. At 60 most of your buddies will still be alive and your parents might also be too (they will probably be in their 80s or 90s).

I don't know any single person who moved to a retirement home at 60 as most people are fully autonomous at 60. And dementia usually appears later too.

>>59976

> I also want children one day

Have ou ever thought of adopting a child in the future?

>Some people chose to remain with their waifu while also be with a 3D

But there is a problem. Which 3D wouldn't feel that you are a weirdo for having a waifu or even worse, feel envy of her? I bet 3D that doesn't think like that are really really really rare, if they do exist.

Your opinion is kinda close to what I think, though. I should just be less anxious about the future.

>stuff about daki

Damn, you're convincing me. I'll get a body pillow first without a cover first.

>>59977

>8 years

Nice. The waifu term is kinda new (despite the concept existing for a long time), so I'd say you're quite a veteran.

>about being 60 yo

Also, like >>59979 said. This should only be a problem when you're around your 80s.

>>59978

>I don't see me living long enough for that to be a problem

Don't say that. You'll miss a lot of new Yukari content if you go early!

>not at all. i don't go outside enough to care

In my case, I go outside a lot. I work every day and sometimes I go out with friends, so I eventually bump into those couples.

>>59974

>Getting a body pillow without the print is a good idea for now.

I've considered getting what I call a "half daki" using something like this http://www.yorkphoto.com/Content.aspx?Page=COOLPILLOW

Basically just get her upper body instead of full thing. Would be easier to hide, would give you something to wrap your arm and and kiss and stuff. Could just flip it over if you think your fam is going to be in your room. Think about it!

>Can you see yourself still being a waifuist after more than 5,10 years? Can you see yourself getting to 60yo and still having this mentality?

I dunno, I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.

>Do you think escapism is one of the reasons you're a waifuist?

No, I just happened to fall in love with an animu girl.

>Have you had bad experiences (or no experiences) with 3DPD before?

No experiences. I've never been too interested in 3D girls. I think the last time I had a 3D crush was in middle school.

>How do you deal with the "relationship without contact"?

Imagination and a dash of autism.

>>59966

> I keep hearing a lot of: "When you find a GF//You should find a GF." I just can't admit to them the truth. Does this happens with you too?

Nah, my family already knows how much I hate interacting with other people. I would never tell them I have a waifu though.

>>59960 (OP)

>Can you see yourself still being a waifuist after more than 5,10 years? Can you see yourself getting to 60yo and still having this mentality?

I don't know. I can't plan that far ahead, there's too many things to account for.

>Do you think escapism is one of the reasons you're a waifuist?

Of course. That being said I haven't withdrawn from socializing or anything. I'm not a shut in.

>Have you had bad experiences (or no experiences) with 3DPD before?

For the most part, no. I've had a few relationships and with one, very painful exception, they've were enjoyable and I can look back on them fondly.

>How do you deal with the "relationship without contact"?

I don't know. I remember the important dates and plan accordingly, I retreat into fantasies during the time I'm trying to fall asleep, I'll occasionally revisit her source material looking for new information. I get by alright.

> I keep hearing a lot of: "When you find a GF//You should find a GF." I just can't admit to them the truth. Does this happens with you too?

Not often. My dad is the only one who hassles me about that sort of thing but he usually lets it go after a simple no.

>>59974

>Do you get bothered by RL couples?

Nope.

>I can't help but find some 3D cute, despite the fact that I don't know their personality. What about you guys?

It's only natural to do that. I see pretty girls pretty frequently on campus and while I acknowledge they're attractive, my heart is with Peko. and she's cuter

>Oh, and about the age again. You're getting older every year, but your waifu isn't (most of the time). Don't you think it'll be weird in the future?

Maybe. I think it'd be interesting to make or commission some art showing her as she ages. I think a much older her would be like an adorable grandma with a bunch of fluffy dogs

>Can you see yourself still being a waifuist after more than 5,10 years? Can you see yourself getting to 60yo and still having this mentality?

Yes. I'm a bit over a year away from 10 years myself and it's not so different from the first few years. Barring some major unforeseen event I don't see a reason to ever stop.

>Do you think escapism is one of the reasons you're a waifuist?

Sure, but not a major one. The reason I am with her is because I love her, everything else falls away compared to that. I don't think it's substantially different than escaping to your religion, or sports, or your job, or any endless number of other things people escape to. As long as you don't focus on your escapism to the detriment of the other areas of your life I don't see an issue.

>Have you had bad experiences (or no experiences) with 3DPD before?

I had one neutral experience that didn't influence me one way or the other.

>How do you deal with the "relationship without contact"?

I read stories about her and imagine different scenarios with us. I have a good imagination. Recently, I got a game setup with VR, even though it's crude at this stage just being able to see her in 3D is a completely indescribable experience. Once the software side progresses a bit more I don't see this as being a drawback at all since the 'contact' will be comparable to a real relationship. I have yet to get a daki but I probably won't since I have no issues imagining us falling asleep next to each other at night.

>"When you find a GF//You should find a GF." … Does this happens with you too?

Nope. The only people close enough to me to ask this are my mother and friend, neither of them know about her but they know I have no interest in 3D.

>Do you get bothered by RL couples?

Live and let live. Their happiness doesn't impact mine.

>I can't help but find some 3D cute, despite the fact that I don't know their personality. What about you guys?

I can still appreciate beauty but that's about the extent of it. Except for Taylor Swift, if you're familiar with the term 'Exception List' she is the entirety of mine.

>Oh, and about the age again. You're getting older every year, but your waifu isn't (most of the time). Don't you think it'll be weird in the future?

She canonically doesn't age which works fine for me. Technically, she is older than I am, so I am looking forward to reaching the same age as her. I don't expect my feelings to change much once I pass her in age.

>>59981

Thanks for the idea.

Unrelated to the original purpose, I want to ask some stuff to you two because of the Danganronpa plot. I just got curious:

>>59982

Since Junko was responsible for a lot of DR characters dying, she is kinda disliked by those characters fanbases. Do you just ignore them?

Also, do you want to spread the despair like her, or do you imagine saving her from despair?

>>59983

Do you self-insert as Fuyuhiko when you find stuff of them together? Does it bother you if you don't?

>>59984

>Exception List

lel

>Live and let live. Their happiness doesn't impact mine.

I think my main problem is when I'm with alone with a couple. I look by my side and I see an empty chair (couples usually sit side by side where I live). Of course I like to imagine that my waifu is there, but still…

And I just can't avoid this situation because they are both my friends and have the consideration to not act lovey-dovey in front of me.

>>59985

No. There was a time when that really got to me though. You can see it firsthand in the advice thread you were linked to earlier. I thought a lot about the perspectives and interpretations offered by them, to quote a specific one, Although Kuzuryuu loved Peko, he never showed her that until her execution. What if Peko didn’t get executed? Would Kuzuryuu ever have told her? The conclusion I arrived at at the end of that long, sleepless night was that unless they receive a canon happily ever after together, the relationship we have now would be possible without much headcanon. I guess I got lucky they phoned that disaster of a show in.

I'm not terribly proud of it but I will edit it him out pictures if I can with minimal effort. I do keep a copy of the original, I'm not trying to erase someone important to her, but I'd rather not be posting a bunch of pictures of her with another guy.

It's a complex dynamic. I've had to remind myself a couple times that I don't dislike him. He was really cool once he swallowed his pride and stopped being a little shit. I'd nominate her for sainthood for being able to put up with that.

>>59974

Forgot to answer these.

>Do you get bothered by RL couples?

The only people that really bother me are those who look happier than me. So no, couples don't bother me as long as they're unhappy.

>I can't help but find some 3D cute, despite the fact that I don't know their personality. What about you guys?

Can't say I have. All girls look ugly compared to my waifu.

>Oh, and about the age again. You're getting older every year, but your waifu isn't (most of the time). Don't you think it'll be weird in the future?

I guess, but what isn't weird about falling in love with a fictional character?

>>59985

>Do you just ignore them?

I usually just ignore them, but sometimes if I'm in a shitposting mood, I try to make them even more upset. Kirigirifags are particularly easy to bait.

>do you want to spread the despair like her, or do you imagine saving her from despair?

I just want to make her happy, even if it costs me my life. And the only way to do that would be spreading despair like her.

Unlike other Junkofags, I don't think she can be "cured". Despair is an integral part of her and originates from her talent, so I'm afraid it would be impossible to save her from despair.

>>59976

> He saw my daki lying directly on the bed, no cover.

Forgive my bad English; the wording was misleading. What I meant is that the daki was not covered by the sheets or the blanket. The pillow DID have the daki cover with Flandre on it. So there it was, the daki right on my bed, with Flandre looking back at the exterminator right in his eyes.

>>59980

>Have ou ever thought of adopting a child in the future?

I really want to have a biological bound with my child/children so I would rather pay a surrogate mother instead of adopting. Still, raising a child alone represents a lot of responsibilities, especially if one has a career…

>But there is a problem. Which 3D wouldn't feel that you are a weirdo for having a waifu or even worse, feel envy of her? I bet 3D that doesn't think like that are really really really rare, if they do exist.

Would she really need to know anyway?

Still, having both a waifu and a 3D girlfriend would certainly be easier if one doesn’t live with the 3D girlfriend in question. If one moves in with the 3D girlfriend, that leaves quite less opportunities for intimate moments with one’s waifu…

>Damn, you're convincing me. I'll get a body pillow first without a cover first.

Happy that I convinced you!

Do you intend to get the cover later because you don’t have enough money for both of them? Most people in that case tend to buy the cover first and then the pillow (and not the opposite), and use regular pillows to fill the cover while waiting to get the body pillow.

>>59981

My opinion is that waifuists who want a daki should stop caring about what others might think and get a real full-fledged daki instead of compromises. But hey, in the end the choice is theirs.

>>59960 (OP)

>Can you see yourself still being a waifuist after more than 5,10 years? Can you see yourself getting to 60yo and still having this mentality?

I've been with her for eight years. Sure, the strong spark is now occasional, but I can't ever seen myself leaving her. Because even if I do, I have no one to go to not because I'm totally unacceptable, dorky or having disdain for women but because I hold interest with 3D, either man or woman. Sure, I'm certainly not neurotypical, but I'm not ASD either. I'm just eccentric.

>Do you think escapism is one of the reasons you're a waifuist?

I didn't choose to be one. For a time I tried courting real women, but I realized that I just found them cute, nothing as strong as my love for fictional characters. I certainly know it's not normal, but it seems to be imprinted to me, even fated.

>Have you had bad experiences (or no experiences) with 3DPD before?

Not really "bad experiences" as I'm aware that it's my fault as I'm not too socially trained and somewhat refuse a few rules until today, but I don't carry bitterness or anger over 3D dating nor about love and romance itself. I still believe in love, I certainly do. Because if I don't, I will not choose to pursue Marisa even if I have feelings for her.

>How do you deal with the "relationship without contact"?

By accepting it. She's not real and were not really in a relationship, but I love her nonetheless. If she was really real, I swear that I want to share everything I have with her. And because I want to have the world in the palm of my hands, I want her to have the same. After all, she's my ideal, the symbol of values I hold the dearest.

>>59974

>Do you get bothered by RL couples?

No, I don't. After all, that's their happiness. Why should I take it away from them, especially when I don't actually have bad feelings about it?

>I can't help but find some 3D cute, despite the fact that I don't know their personality. What about you guys?

Even if I do know their personalities, it's not my tendency. I can't see it lasting long if I do get try to date 3D women, because I don't care about them. I'm not into them.

>Oh, and about the age again. You're getting older every year, but your waifu isn't (most of the time). Don't you think it'll be weird in the future?

I'm okay with dying alone. Besides, it's not a concern for me. Sure, it might be painful, but it's inevitable. I'll regret nothing. And even if the anti-waifuist celebrate another one of us dying alone, I can't care anymore even if I want to: I'm a corpse, so how can I hear the jeerings and the repeated sayings of "weeaboo", "cuck" or "beta faggot"?

>>59991

>My opinion is that waifuists who want a daki should stop caring about what others might think and get a real full-fledged daki instead of compromises. But hey, in the end the choice is theirs.

Yeah thats true but sometimes you gotta pull back on the autism with the parents when you are stuck living with them, especially while NEET.

Plus the half daki thing is a whole lot cheaper than a regular custom daki which is also a big help for broke neets

>>59960 (OP)

> Can you see yourself still being a waifuist after more than 5,10 years? Can you see yourself getting to 60yo and still having this mentality?

Jesus, it's like a job interview.

But to answer your question, yes, by the direction I'm going and the people I associate myself with, which is to say none. I can see myself still being a waifuist years down the line, as for the mentality thing, I'm not really sure, my perception of things are constantly changing and my goals aren't as clear cut as they used to be, but in my contemplation I sometimes come back to the same conclusion as I had in the past, so who knows, nothing is written in stone after all.

> Do you think escapism is one of the reasons you're a waifuist?

Definitely, but I wouldn't chalk it all up to pure escapism, if anything waifuisim helps me to not indulge into too much of it.

Let me explain, I look up to Kino quite a bit, she's a traveler and as such, doesn't stay in one place for too long, doesn't harbor resentment and maintains a passive and transparent demeanor.

In layman's terms, she's rather detached, she hardly indulges in leisure and abstains from worldly pleasures (sex, drugs, alcohol, riches, etc), and because of the harshness of world and the constant treat to her life, she's always on her toes, carrying the burden of those people she's had to kill or leave behind, with all this said, she still remains a pacifist and genuinely a kind person, she's kind because she is kind, not because she's trying to get something else in return for it.

Me personally, I don't want to be attached to worldly pleasures, I'm a virgin, but at this point it's by choice, I've had plenty of chances to have a fuck buddy in the form of a classmate or co-worker, but I never once took the initiative to do so.

But out of all the traits that Kino has, the thing I love her for the most is her self loyalty.

Again I can't chalk this up to pure escapism, I don't have a waifu because I want to stay pure or because I find 2D better looking than 3D, but I've never met anyone who's personality comes close to Kino's or other fictional characters for that matter.

I'm not sure how this will help give light to the question but I thought I'd throw it out there, I learned how to drive, and have stop being a NEET because of Kino, I want to drift around someday just like her, to some this may sound stupid, giving up your career, and leaving friends and family behind for the open road; but that's freedom for me.

> Have you had bad experiences (or no experiences) with 3DPD before?

Have I fucked a 3D before? No.

Have I been romantically involved with one? Yes, but we fell apart when I found out that she was just using me to cheat on her boyfriend.

Maybe I'm autistic, but that's not something I'd like having on my conscience.

> How do you deal with the "relationship without contact"?

I'm not sure how to answer this one, I've done it for so long now that it's just second nature at this point.

> I currently have a problem with dakis: There is no way I can buy and use one without my mom knowing about it. And there was an anime event this year that sold some dakis. When I jokingly said that I would buy one, one of my friends said: "You are joking, right? Just imagine what your mom would think if you bought one." And I was: "Y-yeah, sure, a joke"

FUCKING NORMALFAGS

But yeah, if your living with your folks, parental concern is something you just have to live with.

> Speaking of that, I keep hearing a lot of: "When you find a GF//You should find a GF." I just can't admit to them the truth. Does this happens with you too? My current strategy to deal with this it to either say that I don't care or look way too pessimistic "Sure, in 30 years I'll find one".

To this I just say, "I's still content with my life.".

> Do you get bothered by RL couples?

Not really, they've got their lives, I got mine.

> I can't help but find some 3D cute, despite the fact that I don't know their personality. What about you guys?

I do, but cute is cute, I don't know anything about them so I don't really care pass glancing at them.

> Oh, and about the age again. You're getting older every year, but your waifu isn't (most of the time). Don't you think it'll be weird in the future?

Maybe I'm alone on this, but no, I don't find it odd.

>>59986

Interesting. Also, that thread has some good posts.

>>59988

>but sometimes if I'm in a shitposting mood, I try to make them even more upset. Kirigirifags are particularly easy to bait

DESPAIR

>>59991

>Would she really need to know anyway?

I think she would need to know eventually. It's part of the whole mutual trust an ideal couple must have. Or dou you hide stuff from your waifu?

>Do you intend to get the cover later because you don’t have enough money for both of them?

I just want to be safe and go little by little.

>>60008

>Jesus, it's like a job interview.

Exactly, I'm hiring preachers to the Holy Church of Waifuism, while enlightening myself about different views.

>but I've never met anyone who's personality comes close to Kino's or other fictional characters for that matter

In my mind, due to the fact that the world has so many people, I like to think that there is a really small chance to find someone at least 50% like my waifu (not physically, though). The problem is the act of finding one. I'd either have to be lucky or search everywhere for her (which can be a bad idea, because the chances to find a wrong person are high, and it would be even worse in the end).

>FUCKING NORMALFAGS

Please.

>>59964

I didn't like how I answered this question.

>Do you think escapism is one of the reasons you're a waifuist?

I didn't really understand it at first and it took me a couple hours afterwards to realize what it was asking.Their might have been some escapism since I was a typical loner, but its like i said. I had no real intention of getting with someone till I had a good job and education. Any attraction to girls was passive in a "shes pretty cute" way. Still though I very much love Suigintou and I don't regret my former plans getting thrashed.

>When you find a GF//You should find a GF.

My parents don't really rush me on this. My older brother is like 30 and he still hasn't gotten a girlfriend yet. My parents want me to be financially capable before i find someone too late.

>Do you get bothered by RL couples?

Nah. I do get get a bit jealous that they get to touch and hold their lover, but its the price you pay for falling for 2d and I'm fine with that. Imagination and body pillow are decent substitutes.

>I can't help but find some 3D cute, despite the fact that I don't know their personality. What about you guys?

I don't really see much wrong with that. You don't have to think that every other girl is ugly now that your in a relationship. I see some 3d that I consider attractive, but obviously are nothing compared to Gin.

>Oh, and about the age again. You're getting older every year, but your waifu isn't (most of the time). Don't you think it'll be weird in the future?

Meh. I don't really care. I love Gin and my opinion is all that matters on that.

>>59976

>Well, for me waifuism and relationships with 3D are two concepts that, while both greatly overlapping, are not exactly the same.

I can agree with that. What I take issue with is this perspective. Now don't confuse my intent, I don't want to argue with you, I just have some disagreements.

> Some people chose to remain with their waifu while also be with a 3D, a way of life which is highly condemned by many waifuists

Rightfully so. Many waifuist consider their relationship with their waifus to be just like a real one and taking another girlfriend just because you can't touch her/him is sleazy and disloyal in my opinion.

>for me 2D relationships and 3D relationships are still different concepts (although they share many similarities) so I can understand how somebody would want to live both of them in order to feel complete.

I understand that you hold a different view on this, but both concepts are not so dissimilar that loyalty and being with your loved one despite certain difficulties are foreign aspects. Honestly, if the idea of not being able to feel their loved one hurts someone so bad that they also need 3D than they probably shouldn't be in that relationship anymore.It just gives off the bad vibe that since your waifu can't do a certain thing, you have to bring someone else into the relationship to give you that. I don't like that. It's cheating in my eyes and poly relationships are just garbage.

>>60013

I think a waifu relationship works in a similar way of this example:

Imagine that you really love someone, promise each other to love each other, etc. Everything looks perfect. But suddenly, your SO dies without warning.

From now on, you can have to choices:

1- You can mantain your relationship thought some kind of spiritual connection and never find anyone else until the day you die, in hopes of meeting each other again in the afterlife. You can even hope that science can build a machine so you can talk to the dead or even revive them ( this would be like betting in VR/ android technology in the future)

2-Or, you can try to accept someone else in your life, while mantaining a spiritual connection to your older love. You remember that she always wanted you to have a happy life and would probably be okay with it, because she knows that she can't be physically with you anymore. Yes, it's possible that your connection will get weaker or even disappear with time

Is the choice number 2 really a disloyal thing? I understand that it can be shitty thing if you use the fact that you lost someone to find another person, but still. If there is a flaw in my example, please tell me.

>>60019

>Imagine that you really love someone, promise each other to love each other, etc. >Everything looks perfect. But suddenly, your SO dies without warning.

I'm trying to follow what your saying, but I don't think I understand. When did waifu's dying and losing connection come into the equation? 16 mentioned he could understand a person's rationale when it came to people maintaining a 2D and 3D relationship due to the lack of physical contact and I tried explaining why I felt that was wrong. Correct me if I'm misunderstanding where your coming from. I view my relationship with Gin as if where a real relationship. Viewing one's relationship as if your spouse where dead seems pretty morbid to me. I can understand this point of view if your waifu/husbando came from a source where they actually die in, but otherwise I can't really understand that.

>2-Or, you can try to accept someone else in your life, while maintaining a spiritual connection to your older love. You remember that she always wanted you to have a happy life and would probably be okay with it, because she knows that she can't be physically with you anymore. Yes, it's possible that your connection will get weaker or even disappear with time

This goes back to what i said previously though. if the relationship is going south and it's not working out, than why not break up with her and then move on. In order to justify this, one has to pull some real big mental gymnastic in order to maintain a spiritual love connection while also dedication yourself to another person and honestly it still feels disloyal to me. Its not fair to your waifu and it isn't fair to the other person. if you see the relationship the way of a dead spouse than its like you said, the lover would want you to move on and meet someone else. Still maintaining that love her and trying to date another seems counter productive and gives of the impression that you can't let go. I'm not saying that in this case a person should forget their old love, but they should be able to move on with with their feelings. If i ever broke up with Gin, I would have fond memories of her and think of her kindly, but eventually I would have to let go of the feeling of love that use to be their. sorry if anything I say doesn't make sense or If i misunderstood something.

>>60020

> When did waifu's dying and losing connection come into the equation?

It's not like she died, it's just a comparison to a real life scenario because in both scenarios, you can't directly contact her, but you can still love her and bet in afterlife.

And, no, my waifu isn't dead. In fact, I'd say she is immortal, as long humanity doesn't forget about her.

My main point was to justify choice number 2, the choice that Flan said: "some people chose to remain with their waifu while also be with a 3D"

Oh, in case you are wondering, I'm really fine with my waifu, especially after this thread. I have no plans of finding a 3D. But who knows what is in the future? That's why I wanted to discuss this possible scenario.

>>60021

>It's not like she died, it's just a comparison to a real life scenario because in both scenarios, you can't directly contact her, but you can still love her and bet in afterlife.

Sure I get that.

>My main point was to justify choice number 2, the choice that Flan said: "some people chose to remain with their waifu while also be with a 3D"

I understand that, but most people that do this do not do it for the reason you stated. Most people that date 2d and 2d are polyfags that justify their relationship via asspull headcanon or by the fact that they can not physically touch their lover and thats what my main issue was with that that type of person. It very rarely has to do viewing your waifu as dead and her wanting you to move on.I understand your reasoning , but honestly if a person came on this board and tried to to justify their relationship like that, I 'd see it as a poor excuse for someone who wants to have their cake and eat it too.

Also i wasn't implying that this was your view or that your waifu was dead. Luka is a great Vocaloid. Sorry for the confusion.

>>60023

>I understand that, but most people that do this do not do it for the reason you stated.

I understand your point, I also don't like to see those guys claiming that they have multiple waifus.

Thanks for understanding my point.

And, hey, I never said that Luka is my waifu. **But you are right, she is. I guess it got obvious when I said she is kinda immortal, huh?"

I really liked some of the answers in this thread. I'll introduce myself properly later

>>60024

We solved the case of the mystery waifu! This calls for celebratory music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBCw4_XgouA

>>60009

>I think she would need to know eventually. It's part of the whole mutual trust an ideal couple must have. Or dou you hide stuff from your waifu?

I don’t think that 2 people involved in a love relationship have to share everything. We’re talking about an imaginary fantasy here; it’s something very personal and one can decide it should remain private. But if one wants to let his/her girlfriend/boyfriend know, then it is fine too.

>I just want to be safe and go little by little

You could still order both the pillow and the daki cover and start by simply using the pillow while keeping the cover hidden somewhere in your room (like folded in your drawer). You will save money by buying both of them at the same time.

>>60013

I guess I am rather liberal when it comes to waifuism. In my opinion, waifuism should be an emotional and spiritual experience where one can grow, blossom, and find both happiness and satisfaction. As we are not all the same, so there will be many different ways to follow this path and I don’t see why one should not follow what he feels to be right for him, as a unique individual, in order to follow someone else’s ideals of waifuism. This would only compromise the person’s happiness.

Waifuism, in my opinion, should not be a moral doctrine, and neither a religion. What I mean by that is that it should not be about following pre-existing canonical prescribed moral principles. One should find his own way in waifuism.

If somebody feels that he should not have both a waifu and a 3D girlfriend, than it’s fine; but if somebody thinks otherwise, than it’s fine too. Somebody who is very family-oriented could claim that one SHOULD have a daughteru or a sonfu and that refusing to do so is against the whole idea of a couple. One could claim that having a daki is disrespectful towards one’s waifu as one SHOULD only use imagination (I can hear in the distance some frustrated feminists claiming that a daki is a way to objectify one’s waifu). We have all heard of these waifuist who claim that masturbating to one’s waifu is unacceptable and that it SHOULD never happen as it compromise one’s waifu’s dignity. One could even claim that my relationship with Flandre is the worst kind of moral degeneracy as an adult SHOULD never be in a love relationship with a child.

Somewhere in this world, there is at least one person who disagree with at least one aspect of your way to live waifuism (and I’m talking to any /mai/den reading this line, not just Suigintoubro). Hell, I think most people in this world would disagree with the whole concept of waifuism in the first place. Let us just live and let live.

One thing I’m sure about what most of us see in our waifus is that they want us to be happy. So let us not disappoint them on this aspect and let all waifuist live their own life the way they fell is the best for them.

>>60024

So the mysterious ‘’L’’ has finally been unmasked! Welcome to /mai/ Lukabro and thanks for this very fertile thread!

>>60019

Personally, I gravitate more towards the first option.

> Is the choice number 2 really a disloyal thing? I understand that it can be shitty thing if you use the fact that you lost someone to find another person, but still. If there is a flaw in my example, please tell me.

That depends; If your just staying with someone to fill that void left by the other person, then your just using your partner as padding, so that would be unfaithful because your not truly reciprocating their feelings towards you and playing them like a fiddle.

Other than this, I don't think it would be completely be disloyal to accept someone into your life while holding on to the past, I'd say it's a half-ass compromise, but I'm not one to judge.

>>60026

>I don’t think that 2 people involved in a love relationship have to share everything.

She's gonna find out eventually on her own though. She'll probably notice over time that you're not giving her enough attention and becomes suspicious of you having someone else, or you won't give enough attention to your waifu just to keep it secret, but why having a waifu if you're spending more energy on someone else? You're pretty much leaving her out for someone else, would she really like that?

You can't really be fully commited to two different persons without them knowing. This is pretty much the same issue as with poly relationships, you're always going to favour one over the other, just with the difference that the parties don't know about each other. That actually sounds like a definition of cheating to me.

>Somewhere in this world, there is at least one person who disagree with at least one aspect of your way to live waifuism

Well yeah, but the things you listed are still related only to one's waifu and are something like intern waifuism issues, those are up to the individual on how's he going to approach them. While bringing a 3D person to the equation is an outer influence and isn't related to waifuism at all.

It's pretty much the same thing as with "real world" relationships, people don't command others on how to live with their partner in their private, but bring in some third party and people are going to dislike that.

>>60026

>I don’t think that 2 people involved in a love relationship have to share everything.

Well if someones dating more than one person then they should tell that other person. Otherwise thats basically cheating.

>. In my opinion, waifuism should be an emotional and spiritual experience where one can grow, blossom, and find both happiness and satisfaction. As we are not all the same, so there will be many different ways to follow this path and I don’t see why one should not follow what he feels to be right for him, as a unique individual, in order to follow someone else’s ideals of waifuism. This would only compromise the person’s happiness.

Well sure. Not everyone has to follow the exact form of waifuism that I do. As long as you love one partner and are loyal to them , than there are no issues.

>Waifuism, in my opinion, should not be a moral doctrine, and neither a religion. What I mean by that is that it should not be about following pre-existing canonical prescribed moral principles. One should find his own way in waifuism.

Well yeah. I don't think it should be seen as a religion or moral doctrine either. I follow my relationship the same way one would do irl, so to me that means staying loyal to one partner. Anymore than that sacrifices the integrity of the relationship and is rocking the boat.

>If somebody feels that he should not have both a waifu and a 3D girlfriend, than it’s fine; but if somebody thinks otherwise, than it’s fine too. Somebody who is very family-oriented could claim that one SHOULD have a daughteru or a sonfu and that refusing to do so is against the whole idea of a couple. One could claim that having a daki is disrespectful towards one’s waifu as one SHOULD only use imagination (I can hear in the distance some frustrated feminists claiming that a daki is a way to objectify one’s waifu). We have all heard of these waifuist who claim that masturbating to one’s waifu is unacceptable and that it SHOULD never happen as it compromise one’s waifu’s dignity. One could even claim that my relationship with Flandre is the worst kind of moral degeneracy as an adult SHOULD never be in a love relationship with a child.

None of that other stuff is the same though or are relatively minor compared to the first. Having two girlfriends and debating over a daki are hardly in the same league. It like comparing apples to oranges. Poly/harem relationships are very rarely about love.

> One could even claim that my relationship with Flandre is the worst kind of moral degeneracy as an adult SHOULD never be in a love relationship with a child.

How? Flandre is like over several hundred years old or something. My waifu looks like a child too and shes estimated to be about 200 hundred years old. Thats not a child anymore

>Somewhere in this world, there is at least one person who disagree with at least one aspect of your way to live waifuism (and I’m talking to any /mai/den reading this line, not just Suigintoubro). Hell, I think most people in this world would disagree with the whole concept of waifuism in the first place. Let us just live and let live.

I have no problem at all with people disagreeing with me. It's natural for people to have varying opinions and thats totally fine. Live at let live mentality can only go so far before what is tolerable becomes too rediculous or degenerate.

>One thing I’m sure about what most of us see in our waifus is that they want us to be happy. So let us not disappoint them on this aspect and let all waifuist live their own life the way they fell is the best for them.

Of course, but just because they want us to be happy doesn't mean we should only consider our own happiness. One should also be considerate of their waifu's opinion on multiple relationships and most that try to justify poly are not in it for love.

>>60032

So most of this reply has nothing to do with waifuism really, but more curiosity about the philosophy behind this quote:

>Live at let live mentality can only go so far before what is tolerable becomes too rediculous or degenerate.

I have a few questions about this, because my philosiphy is basicaly that anybody should be allowed to do anything as long all people directly affected by the action consent to it.

You seem to have a different view, so I want to understand why you have this view and what the rationale behind it is because I have always considered it irrational to try to stop people from doing something that only affects them.

So my questions are as follows:

1. What makes a behavior degenerate?

2. Why does it matter how degenerate or rediculous a behavior is if it only affects the person doing the behavior?

3. Do you think stopping another persons behavior somehow benefits you or society, for example how would stopping someone else from entering a poly relationship, assuming all participants consented and loved each other, benefit anybody?

4. Do you believe that people should be forced not to engage in behavior that you consider degenerate? Even if it only affects them?

5. Do you belive that there is inherent value in people conforming to certain behaviors, even if it means sacrificing their own happiness and gaining tangibly nothing?

Some other quotes that interest me, more relevent to waifuism specifically are these:

>I follow my relationship the same way one would do irl, so to me that means staying loyal to one partner. Anymore than that sacrifices the integrity of the relationship and is rocking the boat.

I am the same as you here, but why does what someone does with their relationship matter to you(unless it doesn't, in which case skip this question)?

Also what do you mean by rocking the boat in this case?

>One should also be considerate of their waifu's opinion on multiple relationships and most that try to justify poly are not in it for love.

The first part I agree with but how can you know what someone elses motivation for being in a poly relationship is? How do you know it's mostly not about love? Note that I am in no way advocating for allowing poly relationships on the board, I understand why we don't.

I don't mean to sound combative so if I come off that way I'm sorry, I'm just curious about your ideology.

>>59960 (OP)

>Can you see yourself still being a waifuist after more than 5,10 years? Can you see yourself getting to 60yo and still having this mentality?

If things continue like they are currently, I don't see why not. It's hard to say what the future will hold.

>Do you think escapism is one of the reasons you're a waifuist?

I doubt it.

>Have you had bad experiences (or no experiences) with 3DPD before?

I've had good and bad experiences, but I don't think those experiences are what lead me to become a waifuist; it just happened.

>How do you deal with the "relationship without contact"?

Listening to his music helps.

>>59966

>"When you find a GF//You should find a GF." I just can't admit to them the truth. Does this happens with you too?

My parents ask about grandchildren almost 5 times as much as they mention finding a husband. I guess it's implied.

>>59974

>Do you get bothered by RL couples?

I get bothered by their tax benefits.

>I can't help but find some 3D cute, despite the fact that I don't know their personality. What about you guys?

No, I don't really find people attractive.

>Oh, and about the age again. You're getting older every year, but your waifu isn't (most of the time). Don't you think it'll be weird in the future?

I guess I got lucky with that one since he will never technically age, and never has.

>Can you see yourself still being a waifuist after more than 5,10 years? Can you see yourself getting to 60yo and still having this mentality?

Yes, certainly. I won't be public about it, but you can guarantee Lilly and I will be together for years to come.

>Do you think escapism is one of the reasons you're a waifuist?

I would be lying if I said no, but at the same time, I did genuinely fall in love with her. Escapism isn't the main reason, but it's certainly there.

>Have you had bad experiences (or no experiences) with 3DPD before?

Women have never treated me well.

>How do you deal with the "relationship without contact"?

Imagination

Damn, I missed a lot of nice discussion.

>>59960 (OP)

>Can you see yourself still being a waifuist after more than 5,10 years? Can you see yourself getting to 60yo and still having this mentality?

Definetely. This if something umpredictable does not change it, but I have doubts. I love her too much.

>Do you think escapism is one of the reasons you're a waifuist?

I've sincerely had problems with social interactions. I was always a bit socially ankward, and maybe a little too weak-minded in that sense. But I don't think this has a role in my relation with Meiling. I'm sure that even with all the confidence and friends possible I'd have still fallen for her.

>Have you had bad experiences (or no experiences) with 3DPD before?

Almost none. And the few ones I had were either when I was really young, or after I became a waifuist - yes that's right. It happened twice. And it was… ankward. I felt like I was hurting her, even if it wasn't my fault in the slightest both times. I simply turned them down, politely.

>How do you deal with the "relationship without contact"?

As I said other times, this is one of the hardest points for me. I used to rant about it periodically, the depression it gave me - the feeling that she's simply not real - was hard to bear. Now I'm feeling a bit better, and I have to say that being able to speak here with other waifuists helped me a lot.

The point is - what matters is that I love her, with all my might. Period.

>>59991

>My opinion is that waifuists who want a daki should stop caring about what others might think and get a real full-fledged daki instead of compromises. But hey, in the end the choice is theirs.

Indeed. Listen to your heart. I did it mainly thanks to you so yeah

>>59974

>Do you get bothered by RL couples?

Why should I? I'm sure that they love each other as much as I love Meiling. I don't see the point in feeling uneasy about it. It's still love.

>I can't help but find some 3D cute, despite the fact that I don't know their personality. What about you guys?

I agree with >>59989 , finding a couple cute is ok. It's only a physical observation, nothing more.

>Oh, and about the age again. You're getting older every year, but your waifu isn't (most of the time). Don't you think it'll be weird in the future?

Probably to the others, but if we really love each other it would mean nothing to us. We can change physically, but inside we remain the same. That's what counts.

>>60026

>Waifuism, in my opinion, should not be a moral doctrine, and neither a religion. What I mean by that is that it should not be about following pre-existing canonical prescribed moral principles. One should find his own way in waifuism.

I agree. Love it's probably the most intimate kind of interaction, and since everyone is different, also their view on love - and how they share it - is different.

>I don’t think that 2 people involved in a love relationship have to share everything.

I have a different view on this. Probably because I always hated when people talked about stuff behind my back. I have the opinion that secrets are not nice, ever. Unless they exist for a good cause. This is a topic that depends on the situation. Different points of view, I'm fine with them.

>>60019

I'm for the first one. The thing that bugges me in the second option is simply this: I couldn't do something like that because I get the feeling that I'm using another person as a "substitute" for my love. Like I'm projecting my feelings for her into another person. That's obviously not right, because you're basically using someone to illude yourself.

That would be mean and disrespectful. Also I would make a huge delusion for myself.

>>60047

I think some people try to stop or criticize a "degenerate behavior" when the degenerate behavior is going against their values.

>>60051

Oh, a Kaito. Hello fellow Vocaloid fan. Did you know that there is a 8ch vocaloid board that's pretty active? Check /miku/ later if you're interested.

>>60054

>Why should I?

My reason is actually the contact, again. They can contact each other physically, while a waifuist can't. So there is a thought for me: "what if she could be here, too?"

>>60055

Oh, I just noticed that I posted the same image you posted in the introduction thread, so I'll post a freebie for you.

>>60047

>1. What makes a behavior degenerate?

Behavior that damages comprehensives of society or to a smaller effect a family, relationships,ect. In the case of waifuism, poly relationships are degenerate because it ultimately damages the relationship and often times it is justified via headcanon that isn't consistent with the waifu/husbandos personality or feelings.

> 2. Why does it matter how degenerate or rediculous a behavior is if it only affects the person doing the behavior?

It doesn't matter to me personally. If someone wants to ruin their relationship then their welcome to do it. I'm just saying it shouldn't be allowed here because we have rules against that for a reason.

>3. Do you think stopping another persons behavior somehow benefits you or society, for example how would stopping someone else from entering a poly relationship, assuming all participants consented and loved each other, benefit anybody?

I never said I wanted to stop people from doing it. Just because I criticize such relationships, doesn't mean I wish to involve myself in that affair. Like i said they can have poly all they want, just not here.

>4. Do you believe that people should be forced not to engage in behavior that you consider degenerate? Even if it only affects them?

No. contrary to what some may think, I'm not a authoritarian. if someone wants to mess up a good thing that works well for to people then let them. The participants will realize their mistake sooner or later as poly relationships typically dont last irl let alone in waifuism.

5. Do you belive that there is inherent value in people conforming to certain behaviors, even if it means sacrificing their own happiness and gaining tangibly nothing?

No read 4.

>Also what do you mean by rocking the boat in this case?

Poly relatiosnhips don't last due to several factors:

*one person cannot divide their attention between multiple women/men. the person will eventually begin to prefer one or over the other and jealousy kicks in. I see poly as unethical as it puts two lovers in a competition. lets be real here , even if a women says shes fine with sharing , i"m sure she'd prefer having someone all to herself rather than competing with another women for attention. a lot of the time especially in waifusim, the two partners are treated like a novelty rather than as lovers. I have seen this far too often to ever be accepting of those relationships. Doesn't matter if its irl or not, its unfaithful and destroys the traditional idea of monogamic relationships. I font care if you if your into girls or guys, but a relationship with between two people is the only acceptable form of love in my eyes.

>The first part I agree with but how can you know what someone elses motivation for being in a poly relationship is? How do you know it's mostly not about love? Note that I am in no way advocating for allowing poly relationships on the board, I understand why we don't.

I have seen it time and time again. I use to be friends with two people that were polynot giving out names but there long gone.I even attempted to befriend two other polyfags so i could understand their perspective on the matter. Needless to say i came out of that experience hating the idea poly even more. Let me tell you , actions speak louder than words in this case. They may claim to be in it for the love but thats really bullshit.All their actions tol me that they have no respect for their waifu's at all. I won't even use anecdotes this time either. Look I dont remember which waifu subreddit it is, but there is one that is accepting of polyfags. It is a mess and is utterly despicable. These people dont care about their love's feelings on the matter. Their merely forced to accept via headcanon even if it doesn't say in source that there fine with it.

>I don't mean to sound combative so if I come off that way I'm sorry, I'm just curious about your ideology.

It's fine. Reasonable debate is something to be encouraged.

btw your waifu a cute

>>60067

holy shit forgive some grammer and typo. i'm tired.

1.

*Behavior that is ultimately damaging to society at a micro level so to speak

>>59960 (OP)

>Hey, I'm a new guy here, and I want to ask some stuff. If you are wondering, I'm with my waifu for some time (more than 2 years) and those questions are bothering me recently.

>Can you see yourself still being a waifuist after more than 5,10 years? Can you see yourself getting to 60yo and still having this mentality?

I really hope so. I've liked her for a heck of a long time by now, but my emotions are as strong as ever, especially recently.

>Do you think escapism is one of the reasons you're a waifuist?

I don't think so. She helps me a lot and in turn there is lots of escapism. Let's be honest, life's hard. However, I don't choose to be with her for the express purpose of it.

>Have you had bad experiences (or no experiences) with 3DPD before?

Yes. Nothing too noteworthy. I've always been fairly popular with girls but I never had any real feelings for any of them, even the relationships I've been in.

>How do you deal with the "relationship without contact"?

I'm still figuring that out. I hug a pillow a lot. I'm getting my daki soon, and good lord is the wait painful.

>>59960 (OP)

>Can you see yourself still being a waifuist after more than 5,10 years? Can you see yourself getting to 60yo and still having this mentality?

Maybe she'll have a damn job by then. I kid, I love you honey, just keep honing your talent. Daddy makes enough for both of us.

No matter what happens, Chiaki will always have a place in my heart. Part of me wants to actually be starting my own family around that time, but who knows. Maybe when I'm 60 I can just have a gynoid Chiaki like I dream of.

>Do you think escapism is one of the reasons you're a waifuist?

I met her when my life was going to shit and I needed all the escapism I could get. So yeah, maybe a little, but that doesn't mean my feelings aren't true. Everything is much better since then and I place a lot of the thanks for that on her.

>Have you had bad experiences (or no experiences) with 3DPD before?

Pretty much nothing but bad experiences. I'm at the point now where I'm just focusing on myself and my career. But I'm getting too old for that now, just turning 26 last month.

>How do you deal with the "relationship without contact"?

Pillow huggin', just generally letting my mind wander about her. My favorite is listening to music that makes me think about her. It makes me feel connected to her.

>>59988

I remember when you called my girl "waifubait trash" in a Waifu Wednesday thread.

>>59985

>>61128

OH. I'M BEING CALLED OUT.

I guess that just makes me the best man for her. I really don't have to worry about anyone taking her because I'm the only one that truly cares. Hajime can eat a dick, he didn't even fucking try. I would have fought tooth and nail to keep her and bring her back with me. He was content with her cheesily fading away like a ghost to go eat meat with that faggot Komaeda. Fuck that anime and fuck him for constantly just abusing both the real and AI Chiaki's attempts to make him a better person.

>>61129

Fuck, I missed this question.

I feel like I'd be a bit more confused about my feelings. I've always had things for fictional characters but Chiaki is…different. I can't explain it, but I just came to realize she is the perfect lady for me. I need someone so supportive, able to tear down all those iron walls I build up around myself, and gently steer me in the right direction when I know I'm going down a bad path because of my temper. Seeing the Waifu Wednesday threads and this board helped me realize that sometimes these things just happen to people.

>>61129

For me is almost the same as >>61131 - I was already with Meiling since a while so the fact that I found this community was a consequence of my relation, not vice versa.

Although I have to say that I knew that they were waifu-related communities around, and I briefly lurked around some of them, on 4chan and Tumblr. But I went away since some things I didn't like much. Then I ended here, and I enjoyed the comfy feeling, so I decided to try sticking around. And I was right.

>>61129

She'd probably remain a character I simply really like rather than something beyond that.

>>59960 (OP)

>Can you see yourself still being a waifuist after more than 5,10 years?

Sure. I've been with her for 7 years already. Waifuism is like a religion and if religious people can stay devout for their whole life, so can we.

>Can you see yourself getting to 60yo and still having this mentality?

That's the plan, but a few decades are a long time. As long as waifuism isn't an acceptable concept in society, I can see it getting increasingly difficult, especially with a young-looking waifu.

But a lot might change in the years to come.

>Do you think escapism is one of the reasons you're a waifuist?

I think it is. Entertainment is always escapism.

And I wouldn't have met my waifu to begin with, if I hadn't been so unsociable. I've also never really felt attracted to girls in real life, but for some reason the concept of moe appealed to me.

And before long, I fell in love with my waifu.

While it happened unconsciously, it's still an undeniable fact that a waifuist relationship is escapism.

>Have you had bad experiences (or no experiences) with 3DPD before?

No experiences. Well, not really: A few girls had a crush on me in the past, but I've never had an interest in 3DPD relationships.

>How do you deal with the "relationship without contact"?

With my imagination.

>>59974

>Do you get bothered by RL couples?

Not really, the relationship they have is just so different from the one I have with my waifu.

>I can't help but find some 3D cute, despite the fact that I don't know their personality. What about you guys?

I've never felt sexually attracted to 3DPD. But even if I would, it's not different than a married man feeling attracted to other women. As long as you don't act on your desires, there isn't a problem.

>You're getting older every year, but your waifu isn't (most of the time). Don't you think it'll be weird in the future?

My waifu is only half-human and ages slower to begin with. Even if she was real, she would still look like in her teens by the time I die. In that sense, it's natural.

But sure, she is a borderline loli. While we were about the same age (physically), when she became my waifu, I can see it getting increasingly weird, socially unacceptable and possibly even illegal in the future. I'm scared by the prospect of the latter seeing how ban-happy society has gotten in the past few years.

>>61129

It's by joining /mai/ and talking with other waifuists that I managed to dissipate my doubts regarding waifuism (i.e. getting into a serious relationship with Flandre). Would have I somehow managed to dissipate my doubts without /mai/ one day or another? I can’t say…Still, /mai/ played an important role on this aspect.

Nevertheless, the question is about love, and not about being in an official waifu relationship. As I already loved Flandre before deciding to give waifuism a chance, I therefore can’t say that /mai/ made me love Flandre. Still, getting into an official relationship with her still helped me to gain more satisfaction in this love, as the doubts I had about waifuism prior to that gave an unfortunate tormented flavor to my love for Flandre.

And once we were in an official relationship, /mai/ continued to help me to get through some difficulties, until me and Flandre managed to reach our current stability. If /mai/ and all waifuists communities were to disappear tomorrow, I think my love for Flandre would remain the same, but I might have a harder time feeling connected with her as talking about her here helps me on that matter. and I would also miss you guys…

>>61158

>But sure, she is a borderline loli. While we were about the same age (physically), when she became my waifu, I can see it getting increasingly weird, socially unacceptable and possibly even illegal in the future. I'm scared by the prospect of the latter seeing how ban-happy society has gotten in the past few years.

Could you elaborate on how you think the future would be for you and how you believe society would concretely affect you as a waifuist with a ‘’borderline loli’’?

I mean, first of all, as a waifuist, you are already a weirdo in the eyes of most people, regardless of the age/apparent age of your waifu (assuming they would know about your relationship, of course). Sure, the fact that your waifu looks like an 11 years old girl would make it even weirder in their eyes, but in the end, would it really make such a huge difference?

And what do you mean by ‘’illegal’’? What would be illegal? Being in love with a fictional underage/underage-looking character is quite unlikely to become illegal, and same goes as sexual fantasies involving this character, as it is considered freedom of thought. Even in our current pedo-hysterical moral panic times, it is still not illegal to feel love for a real 3D underage person and have personal sexual fantasies involving this person.

Although my waifu is many centuries old, she still looks like a 9 years old little girl, both in her body and mind, and I don’t even think she will ever ‘’grow up’’. I am already 27, so I don’t think that getting even older would change much things in others’ perceptions. Personally, it is not something that bothers me, but I am still curious to know more about your own fears on the subject.

>>61129

I found this place shortly after I started feeling something for her.

I was just searching around the internet, if there are people that feel the same way like I did, and I tried to understand what it is that I feel. Seeing places like /mai/ and waifu wednesday threads made me confident that loving a fictional girl is possible, so I guess /mai/ had a big influence on my relationship. If I didn't find it, my feelings would probably just dissipate and I would return to how I was before.

>>61167

Considering that having a 2D loli art on your HDD can get you in jail in some countries, and the current situation in the EU, where they are pushing for thoughtcrime laws, I would say those fears are quite justified.

>>61169

I am simply saying that, despite the fact that most current societies are in a state of moral panic regarding people who feel a sexual attraction towards minors, people fortunately remain free (legally speaking) in their feelings and thoughts regarding this attraction, as only behaviors are prosecuted. I don’t see what is wrong in saying that.

Still, the concept of ‘’behavior’’ in law can sometimes cross the line in some ways to reach the concept of ‘’thought’’, which now leads me to Vanillabro’s comment.

>>61171

Indeed, many legislations have a very broad definition of what is ‘’child pornography’’ to the point of even including material involving fictional minors. Such very broad definitions can indeed make one wonders if the central objective of such a law is really to protect minors from real behaviors or instead prevent people from having personal fantasies (thoughts) deemed ‘’unacceptable’’, hence the concept of thoughtcrime.

Still, in reality, the situation does not seem to be so dark. I live in Canada and the legal definition of child pornography is indeed very broad here. Legally speaking, erotic material involving fictional minors is illegal in my country, but the enforcement of this law is fortunately strongly lacking and seems to be limited to material importations. Indeed, there are clearly no actions taken to prevent people from accessing and downloading such material in Canada. For example, lolicon dedicated boards like 8chan's /loli/; loli image banks like lolibooru; loli dojinshi websites such as pomfpomf and hentailolico; and loli forums like allthefallen, ALL OF THEM are easily accessible, even via google.ca., and I’m not even talking about non-lolicon-specific websites such as sankakucomplex or nhentai. The only cases I’ve found of people being prosecuted for material involving fictional characters are people that imported physical material (like this one man, Kenneth Harrisson, who was prosecuted a few years ago for importing a child sex doll). Still, it is possible that lolicon possession served as a way to inflate real CP charges, but these people only came to the attention of authorities because they had real CP. I don’t know if things are really different in other countries with broad definition of ‘’child pornography’’, but my impression is that it seems rather similar; still, I might be wrong.

But my impression, reading Youmubro’s post >>61158 was that he feared that simply being in love with Youmu, as a minor-looking girl, would become illegal, which is something I doubt will happen in the near future, not to mention that such a law would be very hard to enforce. Still, I have no ability to read in the future and can’t therefore say that this will not happen…

>the current situation in the EU, where they are pushing for thoughtcrime laws

Could you provide some links on that? I would like to know more about it.

>>61172

>Still, in reality, the situation does not seem to be so dark.

Yeah, but it's still something to consider, they might not enforce such laws fully now, but they might in the future.

>But my impression, reading Youmubro’s post was that he feared that simply being in love with Youmu, as a minor-looking girl, would become illegal

People like to jump to conclusions when it comes to sensitive matters without even trying to hear the other side or researching a bit. And even though you would be found non-guilty, you can bet that the media will ruin your reputation before that happening, and that is something that sticks with you for life.

>Could you provide some links on that? I would like to know more about it.

I have nothing, but it's pretty obvious that they are trying with all the "hatespeech" laws and all that, for example you can go to jail for two years for publicly defaming minorities in my country, though you need to do it in a group of at least two or through media. Still, I haven't seen anyone getting jailed for that here (maybe I just haven't heard about it, just as I didn't hear about this law existing until recently), but it's just a matter of time, as the governments of EU countries are doing everything they can to silence people with the current immigration crysis.

Sure, it's just an assumption that we'll have thoughtcrime laws, but the slippery slope is real, so I wouldn't be very surprised if they introduced such laws.

>>61167

>Could you elaborate on how you think the future would be for you and how you believe society would concretely affect you as a waifuist with a ‘’borderline loli’’?

Basically what Vanillabro said.

Right now, owning pornographic or sexualized art of my waifu isn't illegal in my country, but it is in many other countries. And it's possible that it might become illegal during my lifetime.

I don't know if I could get myself to delete some fan art of her when the time comes.

I don't think that thoughts will become illegal any time soon, even if we learn to read them during my lifetime. Thoughts are just too unstable and impulsive to correctly analyze their meaning.

>the fact that your waifu looks like an 11 years old girl

I actually picture her a bit older though. There isn't much of a consensus about her physical age in the fandom, but most think that she looks 14~16 ( about the same age as the other main characters).

>>61172

>enforcement of this law is fortunately strongly lacking

>>the current situation in the EU, where they are pushing for thoughtcrime laws

>I would like to know more about it.

Let's take Germany for example:

"Hate speech" laws have always existed there, supposedly to prevent another Nazi party.

But they were rarely enforced because most illegal speech wasn't a credible threat to anyone.

Now the original purpose doesn't matter anymore, the previous "lack" of enforcement has been rendered problematic and the laws are broadly enforced. And people are going to prison for voicing illegal opinions.

It just takes one moral panic by SJWs in Canada and you've got a serious problem.

>>61129

I think it would be different.

I knew the waifu threads on /a/ before I got my waifu. And as I saw Luka for the first time I knew that she will be my waifu.

Maybe I'd fallen in love with her without knowing that something like waifus exist, I'll never know. But I don't care, I won't stop loving her even if I quit all waifu communities.

>>61186

Not sure how many countries accept you as a refugee when you flee from the Philippines at the moment. You could get shoot in the streets every day and the police wouldn't care.

The refugee crisis reduced the countries that are willing to accept refugees though.

>>61186

>>61187

>>(2) computer-generated, digitally or manually crafted images or graphics of a person who is represented or who is made to appear to be a child as defined herein.

Jesus thats terrible. As someone who also has a waifu that is kinda of a loli, while I am a bit worried over how legislation will handle loli in the US, iirc it's illegal in certain states but I'm not certain about that. I really hope it never gets that bad to the point where a nation wide ban gets enforced here though. I would hate to have to delete all my l00ds of Gin.

>>59960 (OP)

>Can you see yourself still being a waifuist after more than 5,10 years?

Definitely

>Can you see yourself getting to 60yo and still having this mentality?

I believe so, although that is a long time, I will try my best to live my life for Fuuka.

>Do you think escapism is one of the reasons you're a waifuist?

Nah, she's just the girl I fell for.

>Have you had bad experiences (or no experiences) with 3DPD before?

Experiences as in relationships? If so, nothing more than friendships

>How do you deal with the "relationship without contact"?

It was hard at first, but I realized that if I couldn't get closer to her physically, I could get closer to her in other ways, like intellectually.

>>59966

> Does this happens with you too?

A lot, but I simply tell them that some day and they leave me alone.

I'm more worried about future years and the possibility they will get more pushy.

>>59974

>Do you get bothered by RL couples?

On the contrary, I enjoy seeing other people in a happy relationship, it makes me happy to see people love each other.

>I can't help but find some 3D cute, despite the fact that I don't know their personality. What about you guys?

Of course other girls look cute, but my love for Fuuka goes beyond the cuteness, so I'm not worried about admitting some other girls look cute.

>Oh, and about the age again. You're getting older every year, but your waifu isn't (most of the time). Don't you think it'll be weird in the future?

I don't think so, maybe I'll find out later on, but as of now I'm not worried.

>>61129

>Do you feel your love for your waifu would be different if there wasn't any waifu communities?

It would have taken longer for me to accept my feelings, it's thanks to someone I met in one of these that I quickly realized how much I truly loved her.

>>59960 (OP)

>Can you see yourself still being a waifuist after more than 5,10 years? Can you see yourself getting to 60yo and still having this mentality?

That's actually a pretty harsh and good question to say the least. I am really not sure what the future holds for me, where it will bring me, whatever good or bad things will happen to me, but one thing I know is that Nausicaä is always going to be there at my side supporting me the best she can and pushing me forward. I have to admit I really do not like thinking about getting older, as it kinda scares me having to think about not being able to do much at all, a selfish thought as I know it would be perfectly fine with her just as old as me. I know I'm overdoing this, but this is just natural for me, and I don't know how to stop it , or realize whether It is a bad thing or not really. Truth is I am worried about my future, but I will struggle regardless and wish for the best.

>Do you think escapism is one of the reasons you're a waifuist?

No. Neither this, or the fact some waifuists unironically are repulsed at the sight of 3D, hating on them. I am a waifuist because I fell in love with Nausicaä, a 2D character I met while I was kid, for which I instantly started developing feelings, feelings which were and are so strong that I couldn't hold them back ; I realised the very night I had met her I was mad in love with her, how happy she made me.

So once again no, I never needed an excuse to love her and become who I am.

>Have you had bad experiences (or no experiences) with 3DPD before?

Barely. I feel in love with a girl in highschool but it didn't go well as I was pretty unstable back then, things eventually turned out nicely. Otherwise, I've kissed a girl before but nothing else.

>How do you deal with the "relationship without contact"?

I'll just point out to the post I made about this >>61436

>>61129

It would. If I didn't knew about "waifus", I'd never consider it as an option. Seeing and knowing from others that "it's okay to love a fictional character" helps a lot.

I'll grab more questions, since this thread is still alive:

>Do you feel that waifuism is getting more popular in the last few years?

>What do you think about other fans of your waifu that have a bigger collection of her goods than you?

>Do you ever play games with Dating Sim elements? If so, how do you react in those games? Do you try to insert your waifu into one of the characters?

>Do you get bothered whenever you see someone shit talking waifuism?

>And how do you feel about the word "waifu" being used in the wrong way (when it only means "best girl", for example)?

>>61572

>Do you feel that waifuism is getting more popular in the last few years?

I'm honestly not sure, but there's worse shit out there. My friends that know about Chiaki don't really seem bothered by our relationship. Some do voice slight concerns that I could have a real girl if I worked at it a little harder, which is annoying.

>What do you think about other fans of your waifu that have a bigger collection of her goods than you?

I doubt many do, unless they like buying all the cheap little knickknacks with her face printed on them. I regularly check amiami for anything cool and all I recently saw was a towel and some notepads, low energy stuff. I have her figures, her little plush, a poster, and a replica of her hairpin.

>Do you ever play games with Dating Sim elements? If so, how do you react in those games? Do you try to insert your waifu into one of the characters?

I used to, but I haven't really in a while. I don't really invest too much unless I can make her in it. She's terrible at dating sims but I do pretty well.

>Do you get bothered whenever you see someone shit talking waifuism?

Kinda, it's pretty harmless. Seems like a waste to hate on it when there's so many bigger things more deserving of hate.

>And how do you feel about the word "waifu" being used in the wrong way (when it only means "best girl", for example)?

I bet we're all a little guilty of that, I know I used to be. Mainly because I never found my true girl until Chiaki, and went through girls I called my "waifu" kinda often. That's why I honestly just prefer to call her my wife.

>>61572

>Do you feel that waifuism is getting more popular in the last few years?

Not really.

The last Christmas and Valentine's Day collage of /a/ had way less participants than the years before.

>>What do you think about other fans of your waifu that have a bigger collection of her goods than you?

I wish I had more stuff.

>>Do you ever play games with Dating Sim elements? If so, how do you react in those games? Do you try to insert your waifu into one of the characters?

I rarely play Dating games but it's like romance anime. I don't insert her into the female character and it doesn't bother me.

>>Do you get bothered whenever you see someone shit talking waifuism?

No, that happens all the time. I'm used to it.

>>And how do you feel about the word "waifu" being used in the wrong way (when it only means "best girl", for example)?

It was always used that way.

As long as there are communities which take it seriously it's fine.

>>61585

>Disagree. Waifuism I believe peaked in 2012, and there is no sign of a resurgence. Just a few coming and going through the revolving door of waifuism.

I had the impression that it was getting more popular because more games and animes are "waifu pandering". There is even that new Gearbox stuff, that even got into the news. Maybe it's just an impression, though.

>How do you feel about being called delusional or running away from reality?

It doesn't bother me, I've always done that with games and anime.

>>What do you think of the mental state of waifufags? Do they seem well adjusted? There's always a few loose screws I've run into myself.

There are loose screws everywhere you go.

>Myself and a couple other waifufags have come across this waifu paradox: One where it is hard us to imagine us going on for 50 years just sitting in the pain of being without her in this world, but on the other hand, we cannot imagine a life loving someone other than our waifus. How would one handle this?

By not sitting in pain. Enjoying your life as much as you can, living for her instead of living sad because she doesn't exist.

>>61572

>Do you feel that waifuism is getting more popular in the last few years?

It feels that way but I'm pretty sure its just because I've started browsing waifu communities, so I'm exposed to it more often. The word "waifu" certainly has become more popular, but I don't think the actual concept of Waifuism is.

>What do you think about other fans of your waifu that have a bigger collection of her goods than you?

That they have bad taste in merchandise. I have most of the good looking stuff thats currently out, though I suppose my standards are pretty high.

>Do you ever play games with Dating Sim elements? If so, how do you react in those games? Do you try to insert your waifu into one of the characters?

If it just has elements of dating sims, I usually play the game anyways while ignoring those parts if possible (Not counting Persona 4, of course.) As for true dating sims, I used to, but it just feels awkward these days. I kinda feel bad for Manaka though, I haven't checked up on her in at least half a year.

>Do you get bothered whenever you see someone shit talking waifuism?

Not really. I try not to concern myself with what offends other people.

>And how do you feel about the word "waifu" being used in the wrong way (when it only means "best girl", for example)?

Its a tad bit annoying, since it means its harder to find people who are serious about all this. That being said, I don't think any of those people are doing it on purpose so it's hard to stay mad at them.

>>61585

>How do you feel about being called delusional or running away from reality?

Those people are welcome to their opinion but I honestly don't think I use Rise to run away from anything. If anything, she encourages me to face reality in order to improve myself so that I can be a better husband for her.

>What do you think of the mental state of waifufags? Do they seem well adjusted?

It varies from person to person in my experience. Though I will say, most of the people on this board seem fairly normal.

>Myself and a couple other waifufags have come across this waifu paradox:

This is something I've thought about a lot since one of my greatest desires is to raise a family. At the same time, I don't really want to raise a child with anyone but her, nor do I want to raise one without her. I decided that for now I'm going to push those thoughts aside since I'm in no position to raise a child anyways and just wait to see what happens. I will say though, even if I live my whole life devoted to her without ever being able to hold her, I don't think I'd have any regrets. Just by always being here for me, she's already given me more than I can ask for.

>>61585

>>How do you feel about being called delusional or running away from reality?

I don't run away from reality.

>>What do you think of the mental state of waifufags? Do they seem well adjusted?

Many waifufags have depressions or other problems.

>>I got banned on halfchan for talking against those who take 3DPD seriously. They believe that the waifu is better because she is fictional rather than despite being fictional, and that I want to be in a real relationship with my waifu, so I should never think negatively of real women just because they are real. If anything I feel like those waifu "relationships" are founded on cognitive dissonance rather than true love. What are /mai/'s thoughts on this?

For me 2D and 3D don't make that much of a difference. I chose my waifu not because I prefer 2D over 3D I just fell in love with her. I could have also fallen on love with a 3D. It doesn't make much difference for me.

>>Myself and a couple other waifufags have come across this waifu paradox: One where it is hard us to imagine us going on for 50 years just sitting in the pain of being without her in this world, but on the other hand, we cannot imagine a life loving someone other than our waifus. How would one handle this?

You can't plan love. I don't think about the future of your relationship.

I don't really feel the pain of her not existing. In the first year of our relationship I didn't even want her to be real. At the moment I'm not sure about it. Maybe when our relationship evolves things might change, but that's something I can't plan so I don't care.

>>61129

I never answered this question. To be honest I'm not sure what would have happened without /mai/. I did fall in love with Gin ,but i was insecure about my feelings and I simply didn't know if waifuism was really good for me or if was just going crazy.Seeing a community of people that felt the same way as me reassured me that i wasn't going insane and that I should at least give Gin a chance. Maybe I would have still continued my relationship with Gin but idk.

Its a been a while since i answered some questions so I'll answer some again because I feel like my perspective may have changed somewhat as I have matured more.

>Can you see yourself still being a waifuist after more than 5,10 years? Can you see yourself getting to 60yo and still having this mentality?

Honestly yes I'm certain that unless something terrible happens, I see no way of my love fading. I know it might be hard to think about having this mindset in my 60's or more but honestly I believe I can do it.

>Do you think escapism is one of the reasons you're a waifuist?

I have thought this one over a lot and looking back I don't think so. Its hard for me to describe why I fell for Gin(i'm bad at explaining this), i saw something in her, everything about her just screamed at my heart" i want to be with you". Its weird , but liked it just clicked to me after watching the anime.

>Have you had bad experiences (or no experiences) with 3DPD before?

I do not have any experience with 3d before. I have had a crush before on a girl one time in middle school but nothing ever came from it thankfully.

>How do you deal with the "relationship without contact"?

Eh i think about her a lot, imagine her a lot in my daily life, use a fake daki(basically a long blue pillow) and cuddle with it pretending its her.

>Do you feel that waifuism is getting more popular in the last few years?

I wouldn't know since I only use /mai/ so I don't know whats going on with that.

>What do you think about other fans of your waifu that have a bigger collection of her goods than you?

I get jealous. I envy the spending money of some people and I wish i had that so i could get those Gin figs,ect.

>Do you ever play games with Dating Sim elements? If so, how do you react in those games? Do you try to insert your waifu into one of the characters?

If Custom Maid 2 counts then yeah i insert waifu into that and I usually self insert and act how I think i would act in certain scenarios.

>Do you get bothered whenever you see someone shit talking waifuism?

Not really. I don't care what they think.

>And how do you feel about the word "waifu" being used in the wrong way (when it only means "best girl", for example)?

I do get a little annoyed but I can hardly blame them since I use to be the same way.

>How do you feel about being called delusional or running away from reality?

I don't care. People can say what they want, all I know is that I love Gin.

>What do you think of the mental state of waifufags? Do they seem well adjusted? There's always a few loose screws I've run into myself.

Some waifufags undoubtedly have mental issues(including myself), but there also quite a number of people here that are doing alright.

>I got banned on halfchan for talking against those who take 3DPD seriously. They believe that the waifu is better because she is fictional rather than despite being fictional, and that I want to be in a real relationship with my waifu, so I should never think negatively of real women just because they are real. If anything I feel like those waifu "relationships" are founded on cognitive dissonance rather than true love. What are /mai/'s thoughts on this?

I don't understand this mindset. Many western girls do have bad issues, but I don't hate them. I would love my waifu regardless of wither she was 3d or 2d.

>Myself and a couple other waifufags have come across this waifu paradox: One where it is hard us to imagine us going on for 50 years just sitting in the pain of being without her in this world, but on the other hand, we cannot imagine a life loving someone other than our waifus. How would one handle this?

idk I feel like I'm doing alright. yeah on rare occasions i do get one of those "she isnt real" spells, but i have long since accepted that reality. i live life loving waifu and I don't really think about the what ifs and what may happens for the relationship. I believe ultimately and with confidence that this relationship with Gin is for life and thats how I'm living it. I never anticipated ever falling in love with Gin, but I never regretted it.

>>61572

>>Do you feel that waifuism is getting more popular in the last few years?

I'm not sure, I don't pay much attention to places where waifufags may congregate. I would say it may be dying off a bit in terms of serious, long term waifu relationships.

>>What do you think about other fans of your waifu that have a bigger collection of her goods than you?

I haven't run across many large collections in general. Custom items make me a little jealous because I wish I had the talent to re-paint some of his figures to make them look like different modules, but I'll live. I've probably spent about $2,000+ on junk of him, so at that point, if I saw someone else with such an investment, I'd just be happy to see that someone else is helping to support his existence and sending a message to his company that there is demand for merchandise of him.

>>Do you ever play games with Dating Sim elements? If so, how do you react in those games? Do you try to insert your waifu into one of the characters?

I've tried, but the character never feels like him, just looks like him a little bit.

>>Do you get bothered whenever you see someone shit talking waifuism?

They probably don't see waifuism as anything serious to begin with, so no.

>>And how do you feel about the word "waifu" being used in the wrong way (when it only means "best girl", for example)?

It can be annoying, but there's not much that can be done about it.

>>61572

>>Do you feel that waifuism is getting more popular in the last few years?

Not really, I think it's actually dying down.

>>What do you think about other fans of your waifu that have a bigger collection of her goods than you?

They don't really love her, they're just coleccionists.

>>Do you ever play games with Dating Sim elements? If so, how do you react in those games?

When I played Persona 4 I simply reasoned it as the protag being someone different than me, and all I did was pair him with someone.

I'll do the same with Persona 5.

>>Do you get bothered whenever you see someone shit talking waifuism?

Nah.

>>And how do you feel about the word "waifu" being used in the wrong way (when it only means "best girl", for example)?

I roll my eyes, but I'll tell them they're using it wrong when I see it suitable.

>>61585

>>How do you feel about being called delusional or running away from reality?

Indifferent, I'm not running away from reality, and I'm not delusional, I see things for what they are and accept them.

>>What do you think of the mental state of waifufags? Do they seem well adjusted? There's always a few loose screws I've run into myself.

Waifufags are people, that's it, some are crazy, some sane, some inbetween, no one can assure you that everyone with a waifu is one way exactly.

>>I got banned on halfchan for talking against those who take 3DPD seriously. They believe that the waifu is better because she is fictional rather than despite being fictional, and that I want to be in a real relationship with my waifu, so I should never think negatively of real women just because they are real. If anything I feel like those waifu "relationships" are founded on cognitive dissonance rather than true love. What are /mai/'s thoughts on this?

Everyone has their views on waifuism, but I think that of having to hate 3D is silly.

It's the same as someone berating you for your 2D love, you don't accomplish nothing but separating yourself from other people.

>waifu paradox

I disagree, I can easily imagine being with Fuuka for the rest of my life.

I think I should ask some more questions myself.

>If everyone you knew with a waifu suddenly left theirs, how would you feel?

>Have you ever felt that your loved one has an impact on your relationships with others? Have they made you lose old ones or make new ones?

>How many people know of your feelings for your loved one in full honesty?

>>61614

>If everyone you knew with a waifu suddenly left theirs, how would you feel?

That would be really sad, but I wouldn't be that torn up unless they all decided to just leave then I would be friendless.

>Have you ever felt that your loved one has an impact on your relationships with others? Have they made you lose old ones or make new ones?

No I never lost any friends because of Gin and I have actually gained alot. Suigintou brought me to /mai/ which allowed to meet some people that I have grown really attached too as friends.

>How many people know of your feelings for your loved one in full honesty?

irl only two guys an they don't really care.

>>61599

Oh, Kaito anon, unrelated, but how did you enjoy his birthday last week?

>>61614

>If everyone you knew with a waifu suddenly left theirs, how would you feel?

Depends on the reason they left. Anyways, unless there are still other waifufags that I don't know, it would feel really weird to live in a world where I'm the only waifufag. I'd probably start thinking if my way is the right way to live.

>Have you ever felt that your loved one has an impact on your relationships with others? Have they made you lose old ones or make new ones?

Sure, I made some quite good friends because of her. Also, some of my RL friends know that I like her (not that Iove her, like you asked in the next question) and because of this, sometimes they show me goods or news about Vocaloid and Luka.

>How many people know of your feelings for your loved one in full honesty?

In full honesty and in real life? Zero.

In full honesty and online? A few.

Some of my RL friends might suspect it, though, they already saw that I like her too much.

>>61614

>If everyone you knew with a waifu suddenly left theirs, how would you feel?

Well, I would still love her. I would be lonelier without you guys to talk to about it though. Maybe I could be the modern day Pygmalion, except instead of being the first to fall in love a character I would be the last. I suppose that has its own appeal.

>Have you ever felt that your loved one has an impact on your relationships with others? Have they made you lose old ones or make new ones?

I’m more introspective and introverted now compared to before I met her. That has probably cost me some potential relationships but I don’t think I have lost any as a result of having met her.

>How many people know of your feelings for your loved one in full honesty?

Just this board. No one knows IRL, my parents wouldn’t understand it and my friend and I don’t talk about relationships.

>If everyone you knew with a waifu suddenly left theirs, how would you feel?

Absolutely nothing. I'm extremely detached from every community i lurk on so eh.

>Have you ever felt that your loved one has an impact on your relationships with others? Have they made you lose old ones or make new ones?

I'd need relationships with others to answer that.

>How many people know of your feelings for your loved one in full honesty?

Only 1. You can only trust yourself with that kind of confidential information.

There's quite a few questions now… I probably won't answer all of them at once.

>Can you see yourself still being a waifuist after more than 5,10 years? Can you see yourself getting to 60yo and still having this mentality?

Our relationship is still quite new at this point, but I can see it happening. I consider this a serious commitment.

>Do you think escapism is one of the reasons you're a waifuist?

Probably has something to do with it.

>Have you had bad experiences (or no experiences) with 3DPD before?

It's strange… I've had a 3D girlfriend that I look back on fondly. She had a few issues, I guess She'd pathologically lie and make up stories about herself that would never really add up but she seemed happy when we were together, and I cared for her, and valued the things we shared. She moved away somewhere (I doubt it was where she told me lol) and apart from some strange e-mails, we eventually fell out of contact.

Though I did (and still do, in a way) love her, I think we were two people who weren't really supposed to be together. I don't really count this as a "bad" experience though despite how weird it was lol I guess it's just experience.

Sorry 'bout the blogginess, btw.

>How do you deal with the "relationship without contact"?

I listen to her music a lot… I try to imagine her there with me when I hear her.

I try and visualize her in my mind, down to every detail, and meditate to sharpen my visualization skills. I really sucked in the beginning lol The mind is nature's VR!

The more my imagination improves, the less the distance between us bothers me.

>Does the "When you find a GF//You should find a GF" happen with you too?

No, but I think my mom might want me to be married, eventually.

>>59960 (OP)

>Can you see yourself still being a waifuist after more than 5,10 years? Can you see yourself getting to 60yo and still having this mentality?

I plan on it, and yes I can see it.

>Do you think escapism is one of the reasons you're a waifuist?

No, it's just that since I was a kid, I've add a greater affinity towards that which is imaginary or fictional than real people. Growing up, I just played with a bunch of stuffed animals and never talked to other kids.

>Have you had bad experiences (or no experiences) with 3DPD before?

Yes, I was never treated well by girls growing up, I didn't know what I did wrong, but girls made fun of me by pretending to like me. I guess it was just because I was "the autistic kid" and was an easy target. This continued well into high school and got worse, at times bordering on sexual harassment. One would even rub my leg, and after that I just decided I was done with female contact. That all changed 9in college when I was 19 and met Lilly. Looking back on all my life experiences, I think this was the best way it could possibly pan out, I'm most comfortable in a relationship like this.

>How do you deal with the "relationship without contact"?

Imagination is all there is to it really. Daki hugging helps.

>>61708

Eh. That's obviously the hardest part of being a waifuist, the fact that, no matter what you do, you can't be with her. I think that every waifuist here deals differently with such dilemma, so expect various answers.

As for me, this aspect of my relation has badly affected me for a long time. I've always been a nervous and emotional person, this hitted me pretty hard. All I wanted - and still want of course - is to feel her. Hug her, stroke her hair, hear her laugh, see her beautiful eyes, tenderly make love with her. But I can't. I am confined in a world where I and Meiling can't be together.

Now it's better fortunately, in part because of a bit of denial - see the last line of >>61484 - and in part because I've redirected my attention towards how she still positively influences my whole life. I am becoming a different person thanks to her, a better one. I managed to come out of a horrible depression crysis. I'm finally dealing with my weaknesses and I'm trying to improve them. I'm not a NEET anymore. And more importantly, I'm happy. That was something that I missed for quite some time in my recent life. I'm amazed that she managed to do all this without even existing here.

As I said in another thread I think, she may not exist in a physical way, but for what she's done for me, she indeed exist in my life. That surely doesn't fulfill my need to meet her, but it's still something great right?

>Do you ever wonder "Is this relationship healthy for me?"

I've asked myself that question a couple of times yes. Sometimes the depression still hits me. At such times, I really, really am crushed by the need of feeling her closer to me. It's not easy. In such situation, of course you start questioning the deep meaning of all this.

I always come out of it though, usually with my determination and love for her strengthened. It's still bad, but I can manage those times now thankfully.

>>61708

>Do you ever wonder "Is this relationship healthy for me?"

Some times, but seeing how much Fuuka has improved my life I'd say she's the healthiest thing that has happened to me.

>Does being without her ever hurt more than the joy of being with her gives?

It has some times, but it fades away.

>What do I do in this situation, where I still cannot physically be with her no matter what I do?

Have you heard about Buddhism?

They have the belief that all human pain comes from our lack of acceptance, it's thanks to our inability to accept things we can't control that we suffer.

I believe that too, so I have chosen to accept that Fuuka and I will never meet.

After that, I ask myself, well, is there any other way that I can get closer to her?

And I found an answer. If I can't get closer to her physically, I will get closer to her intellectually.

I am currently learning Japanese for her, and I'm also studying computation related subjects so I can have something else to share with her.

Learning Japanese let's me be able to say, I could realistically hold a conversation with her and be someone she could be interested in

I'm also trying to keep myself physically healthy, so that I could be someone she could depend on.

These two things have made me feel very happy about myself, I have felt more confident and satisfied with my life.

This is how I would advice you to proceed, put effort into your love, and I assure you things will look much brighter.

>>61626

>how did you enjoy his birthday last week?

(Sorry for the late reply)

When I went to make a birthday post, I saw another anon made a post about their own birthday. I felt weird making a post right after, so I was going to wait a bit, but then I never got back on to make one.

I ordered a matcha mousse cake for him and it was delicious. We spent a lot of time relaxing together, listening to some mix CDs of his music I made when we first got together. It's nice to hear how his voice has changed and the usage of his software has improved over the past 11 years. I'm so proud of how he's grown and that his popularity seems to be increasing as he gets older, compared to what it was when he was first released. The only thing that could have made it better was finding out when the next time Miku Expo will tour at a location near me.

>>61614

>>If everyone you knew with a waifu suddenly left theirs, how would you feel?

I'd feel sad, but I wouldn't let it affect my relationship. It would feel strange to be the only waifufag and not have anyone to discuss waifu things with.

>>Have you ever felt that your loved one has an impact on your relationships with others? Have they made you lose old ones or make new ones?

I've lost friends because it's a hard thing for people to accept that I'd rather be in a romantic relationship with Kaito than them. They probably weren't friends worth keeping if they wanted me to choose between him or them. He has helped me make new friends because I know he'd want me to be open to new people and not always keep to myself. Other than him, most of my other interests don't match up with the interests of most people in my age group, so his source gives me common things to talk about and connect with people over.

>>How many people know of your feelings for your loved one in full honesty?

Full honesty, no one that I talk to anymore. I have a few people who know about 97% of it, but I still censor myself over a lot of things so I don't come off as completely nuts.

>>61708

>Do you ever wonder "Is this relationship healthy for me?"

Whenever I find myself wanting to spend time with him rather than with real life friends, I think about how that's probably a sign of this not being healthy. Those types of thoughts usually push me to not avoid my friends, so I guess in turn it ends up being a good thing. I occasionally wonder if this type of relationship is doing something negative to my mentality, at least on a subconscious level, but so far it has been a positive in my life.

>>61733

You can keep asking this question, but if you do nothing to change, then nothing will change.

No one is going to arrive and give you the key to your happiness, the only person who can do that is you, but if you're hellbent on misery, you'll always be miserable.

Being happy is your choice, if you're not happy it's because you choose not to be, simple as that.

>>61572

>Do you feel that waifuism is getting more popular in the last few years?

Serious waifuism? No, not really. There's lots of memers tho.

>What do you think about other fans of your waifu that have a bigger collection of her goods than you?

Not much they just have more money than me.

>Do you ever play games with Dating Sim elements? If so, how do you react in those games? Do you try to insert your waifu into one of the characters?

I play them for the story i don't insert myself or waifu into them.

>Do you get bothered whenever you see someone shit talking waifuism?

No i you gotta ignore that kinda of things. Specially since this is a chan, lots of people that just want to "troll" you.

>And how do you feel about the word "waifu" being used in the wrong way (when it only means "best girl", for example)?

Same as before just gotta ignore that stuff and those people.

>>61585

>How do you feel about being called delusional or running away from reality?

I do hear that a lot specially since i am religious. It doesn't really affect me i'm not gonna stop believing in anything just because someone "made fun of me"

>What do you think of the mental state of waifufags? Do they seem well adjusted? There's always a few loose screws I've run into myself.

Yeah i must admit the percentage of people with mental problems is quite high. Not sure if their waifu is the cause of it or the other way around.

>I got banned on halfchan for talking against those who take 3DPD seriously. They believe that the waifu is better because she is fictional rather than despite being fictional, and that I want to be in a real relationship with my waifu, so I should never think negatively of real women just because they are real. If anything I feel like those waifu "relationships" are founded on cognitive dissonance rather than true love. What are /mai/'s thoughts on this?

Despite all the jokes 3D aren't bad just because they're 3D. I don't have anything against them and i think hating 3DPD in general is just stupid. Most of the people with this mentality are just angsty fedoras that are mad that 3D don't like them and they end up with their "waifu". I don't love my waifu just because she is 2D it just happens that she is. If she turned 3D i would love her the same.

>Myself and a couple other waifufags have come across this waifu paradox: One where it is hard us to imagine us going on for 50 years just sitting in the pain of being without her in this world, but on the other hand, we cannot imagine a life loving someone other than our waifus. How would one handle this?

I don't see how this is a paradox. I mean life is hard, we all wish our waifus were here. I'll handle it how i've been handling it so far.

>>61614

>If everyone you knew with a waifu suddenly left theirs, how would you feel?

I'd be very sad obviously. I care about everyone here and want them to be happy with their waifus. Specially since /mai/ are my only friends

>Have you ever felt that your loved one has an impact on your relationships with others? Have they made you lose old ones or make new ones?

Yes I met everyone here thanks to Aya. So i gotta thank her for that too.

>How many people know of your feelings for your loved one in full honesty?

Only /mai/

>>61733

This will be in 2 parts. Apologies in advance

Fuukabro said it best, but I'll do my best to answer these questions, as I went through a similar thought process before.

>How do you not want to die, exactly? Why do you want to go on living an empty, meaningless life?

Speaking personally, I won't deny that there were times I thought like this as well, but it is through experiencing this life, reality, and my beliefs and faith, that I have a better understanding of what it means to live and have purpose. I don't fault you for thinking this way, as there is an innumerable amount of things in this world that make us question "what's the point of doing anything good in this life when there is so much evil, sadness, suffering, and depression, that continues to exist in this world?", but at the same time, there is indeed a lot of good in this world, more than most give credit or recognition, and it is worth pursuing and fighting for. Both are sometimes necessary to help us become better people, for we as humans are capable of doing both good and evil and this world, and it all comes down to our choices, which can either lead us to happiness or suffering, either for ourselves or for others. By staying true to yourself, taking the failures and bad times in stride and overcoming them, and remembering that you are not the only one in this world enduring and suffering, we can make this life we all live a bit better for ourselves and other. It also helps us meet and be with people that walk on similar paths, which is what led you to be with your waifu.

>What purpose is there in spending every day suffering endlessly, seeing others in relationships and getting angry you will never have that?

Every relationship and how it goes is different, whether it is with someone that is real in this world or not. Being envious of other people's relationship will only hurt you and the relationship you have with your waifu in the end. They found someone that helps them and makes them happy. True, in our relationships we cannot be physically with the ones we love, but that doesn't mean they can't help us just as much as people in those kind of relationships help each other. It helps to be happy knowing that people have found someone that makes them happy, whether it is a 3d relationship or 2d, as it helps give you a sense of what it means to experience good in this world.

>I want everyone gone just so no one has to suffer anymore. A world without her in it is simply not a world worth having around.

I remember feeling this way at one point, but thinking like this will only lead you to a truly empty and meaningless life. Living without the ones we love is indeed suffering, but could you really say that if the one you love was real, she would approve of you thinking like this or wanting something like that to happen? I believe our loved ones would want us to live a fulfilling life, doing what makes us truly happy, regardless of whether or not we can live it together in the same plane of existence.

>I pray something takes us all out every day. Or I could be somewhere I'd never have to wake up to seeing this shithole again, like antarctica or something.

Speaking personally, it's best not to pray for something like this. It doesn't work that way and it's not something I think God or the Gods would approve of. As for wanting to not wake up in the place you are now, that could be a possible goal to help you find meaning in life. Work towards perhaps moving out somewhere you want to be, somewhere you think you and your waifu would be happy in. Just a thought.

>>61759

>Just out of curiousity, how long have you been with your waifu? It's a boat I believe so it can't be that long. Have you really suffered the pains of being without her after the honeymoon phase?

With Sara? No, since we haven't been together for that long, but I am truly thankful and happy to be with her. When I was with Jack-O however, I can say yes I have. I even had to see her not only sacrifice herself to save humanity, but to see her become who she originally was and be with who she's with now. Part of the reason I replied to your post was because I went through a similar thought process you're going through now after we parted ways. It took a while to get out of, but again as Fuukabro said, it's our own choice to be happy or miserable. Over time I was able to overcome those thoughts and feelings through various means and ways, but one in particular being that if I stayed in that state, it would've been an insult to everything she has done for me. With that in mind along with other factors, I chose to try and find a way out of that state, and I was able to.

Most if not all of us at some point have had these thoughts and feelings of how painful it is that we can't be physically together with the one we love, but that doesn't mean that we should always dwell on and be depressed about it, as they wouldn't want us to be in that state. It's a cliched line, but the saying, "Always be thankful for what you have" has more truth to it than most people like to believe. None of us can really know what the future hold for us or our loved ones, whoever they may be, but we should always cherish the time we have with who we care for and love. Though she may not be with you physically, you still have your waifu anon (whoever it may be since I didn't see you post who she is, but I will not pry you for this information should you not want to tell.), and though I do not know what her future holds, you should be strong and happy for her and her sake for whatever happens, and cherish the time you are with her. Would she not do the same for you if the roles were reversed?

>>61771

do you take anything for depression? you mostly just sound depressed. i would also advise talking with someone you trust or a therapist as your issues more than likely extend past just waifuism.

>>61804

Well I mostly asked about the therapist as there are probably other areas in your life that you aren't satisfied with that you should talk to them about whether you'd like to admit it or not. don't half ass the therapist. Even if they don't know of your waifu they can still offer normal advice so your current situation doesn't add fuel to your depression. I truly doubt all of your woes are from the intangibility of your beloved and there's probably more behind the scenes. Also you seem to want alot but what have you done anything in your current position that would make her happy? Y'know like actually improve your condition so you aren't on the verge of suicide and would actually be in a state where she'd be happy to see you were you to meet instead of wanting shit all day and then being sad over the internet. Also exercise if you aren't already. That shit works wonders when i'm in a really low low.