/mai/ - Waifu★

>>58762 (OP)

I was pissed that newspaper chose to show his waifu in such a revealing bikini.

That's disrespectful. Even if he was insane, he still died for her. Slapping that fanart on the front makes it look like her died for some bimbo slut. At the least they could have used a nice piece of art. Maybe a nice sundress or something. Something like this still shows her clevage, but it's not as bad. As it is, it's like the news wanted to communicate that the kid was just some pervert, when obviously she meant much more to him. I hate the news so fucking much.

Anyway don't suicide for your waifu. It's not what she'd want.

>>58764

>Anyway don't suicide for your waifu. It's not what she'd want.

This. All of our waifu's/husbando's care for us and dont want to see us die with the exception of maybe Junkofag, but im sure Junko would rather be the one doing the killing. Besides, the belief that I hold, your waifu will be waiting for you after death so long as you try your best for her and dont an hero so suicide, in my eyes at least, is completely pointless and a sign of cowardice.

>>58766

>spoiler

You got that right.

I would never kill myself and deny her the pleasure of killing me with her own hands.

I only lurk /mai/ but this shit makes we want to post and give my thoughts.

Here's the translated letter:

(I feel my heart exploding, my soul being squeezed and breaking.

My heart keeps being destroyed.

I feel like I'm being stabbed endlessly, internal and external pain in my body, it hurts, it hurts so much that you wriggle on the bed and can't stop crying because you know you're unhappy, because you love someone and can't stop suffering.

I love Ikaros and it hurts knowing she isn't there, I keep crying, I'm always sad.

Why was I born, why am I living if I can't stay with the person I truly love?

Why would I work if I can't spend money with the person I love or go out with her?

If she was real, I'd be happy.

I'd work for her, just like I study for her now.

If you become real, I want to tell you:

"Marry me, Ikaros", and see you blush.

And, if you accepted, I'd show you everything good the human being has to offer, I'd show you love.

I love you.)

The thing that really fucking pisses me off is this:

>Since his death, his parents have burned his Ikaros-related goods, and called for the censorship of anime and manga because of its alleged ability to destroy lives by inciting sex and morbid actions.

I assumed his parents didn't read the letter and if they did, they didn't give it any thought. Why the hell would you DESTROY his collection of the woman he loved. You can tell he didn't think of her as some sort of sex object, but as a person. It's so disrespectful to burn the merch of the women he loved. This is giving me memories of a 4 year or 5 year old Sonic fan that passed away a few years ago. Everyone that knew him knew he loved Sonic, hell people were even wearing blue to commemorate this at his funeral If they didn't want the merch anymore after he died, that's fine, but don't fucking destroy it, you could've fucking put his merch around his grave. And the dumbass parents want to ban anime and manga cause they think it's "too sexual and make people do morbid actions" They didn't do jack fucking shit, other than make a girl that people would fall in love with. It was his decision to take his life, not anime or manga. And like I said earlier, you can clearly tell he didn't think of her as some fucking sex object.

Leaving this off with a final note

God bless his soul and family and let's hope he actual got to see his waifu in Heaven

It's kinda sad, I wonder if it would end differently if he found a waifufag community just like this one.

As others said, the way how both the media and his parents reacted to his suicide is really loathsome and disrespectful. The media are just a bunch of vultures who care only about money and sensation, and not about the people they write about, while the parents are some religious fanatics that think TVs are the work of Satan or some shit, from what I've heard.

And as always, they have to twist something innocent into a perverted deviation. Fuck them.

RIP Taylor Gamboa Arronis.

Though, yeah, killing yourself over your waifu is pretty stupid, but who knows, the pain might have been unbearable for him.

>>58776

From the parents perspective, I can't blame them. People get emotional after death. Their immediate assumption that the waifu drove him to suicide isn't unreasonable. Hence they probably felt they were killing the thing that killed their son. I don't agree with them. He probably had way more problems lurking underneath. Destroying something he loved was disrespectful. However it's not an unreasonable thought in the emotional wake of his death.

So is wanting to destroy anime. They're wrong, but I can't blame them in the context of their emotional turmoil.

>>58777

Man imagine being the parents and having your sons suicide dragged out over the internet like this. Probably just wanted to mourn him quietly, but he'll become a meme for years.

Horrible.

I never liked the meme where you meet her on the other side, I think you should live for your waifu's sake and be happy.

She loves you and wants you to succeed.

A very sad story indeed…

Sad, also, that the parents failed to understand what their son was going through. There was certainly a lot going on underneath for this boy, but they failed to notice it. They ended up vilifying Ikaros although she was probably one of the greatest joys in their son’s tormented life. To add insult to injury, they burned their son’s most sacred belongings and publically denigrated the girl he loved.

But as >>58778 said, it had to be somehow expected that they would react in such a fashion. Also, it’s certainly less suffering for them to put all the blame on a ‘’demon’’ and anime and manga than to admit that they failed to help their son (and that maybe some of his pain was due to their own actions). Interesting fact: Taylor’s suicide note didn’t make any mention of his parents; no ‘’goodbye’’, no ‘’I will miss you’’, no ‘’I’m sorry for the pain I’ll cause you’’, etc. Such a lack of mention makes me fear the worst regarding the relationship he had with his parents.

>>58777

>It's kinda sad, I wonder if it would end differently if he found a waifufag community just like this one.

Yeah, it might have made a difference…

I have to admit that if I believed in life after death, and if I firmly believed that I could join Flandre ‘’on the other side’’, I would probably have way more suicidal thoughts. Wanting to be with her very badly, combined with harsh moments, could be a dangerous combination.

>>58784

While I cannot speak for the boy, it seems he is aware of the whole "waifu afterlife" concept which is prominent at least in the weebish communities. (In which latin ametica has its fair share of). I can't say if he has met other waifufags or at least people who understand the concept. But it's a possibility.

Obviously he didn't kill himself just because he wanted to go be with Ikaros, it's just the news saying that because it's a good story and the (probably deeply religious) parents saying that because it's an easy thing to blame. That being said, it's not cool to disrespect him and Ikaros like that, burning the merchandise and using some of her photos which should be treated as private. I would be motivated to write some emails if a character dear to me like Youmu or Yuyuko was treated like this in the news.

He was probably a depressive person who happened to be a "religious waifuist".

His concept of afterlife only pushed him over the edge.

This kind of problem isn't anything new either:

Why do you think most religions promise you an utopian afterlife, but make suicide a deadly sin? It's so that the people unconditionally live through their hardships.

As someone who has dealt with suicide ideation for the majority of his life and even attempted it when I was much younger it was only one time and I haven't had any thoughts like that for a long time now thanks in part of Nozomi a little bit, though getting out of certain mindsets and communities helped a lot more it saddens me whenever someone does take their life.

I get why the parents are feeling the way they do, but it wasn't his waifu that drove him to suicide, but something far more complicated. He was feeling so much pain and thought he had no way to free himself from it except through death. As the saying goes, suicide is a permanent solution to a (really persistent) temporary problem. What they don't understand is that anime was probably one of the few things that kept him going from so long and even that ultimately failed. To ban something that gives people some sort of escape from reality so they can bear it the next day won't help solve anything about suicide.

I'm of the opinion that none of our waifus and husbandos would want us to kill ourselves or harm us in anyway possible. This is just a sad day.

Kind of related, but there was some on reddit who went into debt with LLSIF because they loved Nozomi so much and spent a lot of money trying to get her cards, which I found really sad because I know that Nozomi would be genuinely upset someone would hurt themselves for her own sake. She'd delete the app off of their device once she'd find out and tell them to get help. She'd even feel partially responsible for it, even though it was ultimately that person's choice.

>Using a waifu in a bikini

Pretty inappropriate for a suicide.

All in all, I wouldn't kill myself because of this. Even Yang wouldn't want to see me dead, and during her current state with one arm she would be more depressed.

>>58928

>>58940

Yes, same here. I don't think he killed himself because she dies. The letter makes no mention of her death; it’s really the classic waifuist’s torment of ‘’I just wish she was here besides me’’, but to an extreme level.

>>58804

I wouldn't say you're entirely wrong. It's not really surprising that a good portion of waifuists are introverted, who normally have some talent for imagination and introspection. It's often phrased as "having a rich internal life." Essentially, the average waifuist lives two lives: IRL and the Internal World. Obviously, our waifus/husbandos can't exist IRL, so we turn to our Internal World to interact with them.

Of course, it's also a very important survival trait to be able to distinguish between one and the other. Problems start to occur when the difference between reality and imagination start to fade. Needless to say, like in this particular case, pre-existing mental conditions can exacerbate any problems that start to arise.

>Everyone around him failed him. They should have noticed he was struggling. They should have reached out or tried to get him help.

In all fairness, depression is a tricky bastard. People who are depressed can mask their pain until it's way too late to help them. One of the most heartless and devious things about depression is that it puts you in a state where you know you need help, but feel that you're too worthless to deserve it.

In our unfortunate victim's case, he had a couple of other conditions working against him. Machismo is still a big thing in Latin culture, so any attempt by a man to get help is seen as weak. This goes double for problems like depression, since a man is supposed to be stoic regardless of what they feel on the inside. Religious fanaticism might've also acted as a barrier that kept this poor lad from getting the help he desperately needed. Whether his depression was clinical or behavioral, he was already fighting an uphill battle due to his environment to begin with.

>>59016

Good hypothesis regarding the boy’s case!

I think religious factor not only acted as a barrier (‘’if I talk to mommy and daddy they will say Ikaros is a demon so I better keep my pain to myself’’) but also as a catalyst. Indeed, religion certainly strengthened his belief that he would meet her in an afterlife.

>Whether his depression was clinical or behavioral

What do you mean by that?

Clinical depression is usually used to refer to a depressive condition that is so heavy that it requires a clinical intervention; but behavioral depression, I’ve never heard of that. It seems to only refer to the behavioral symptoms of depression.

>>59018

I mostly meant to distinguish between depression that's caused by physical issues (like having diminished amounts of serotonin or a problem with their receptors) and that which is caused by psychological/social sources (like coming from an abusive family, getting relentlessly bullied, etc.) Sorry for the confusion.

>>58762 (OP)

I felt for the kid and was honestly pissed that they used an such a slutty image. Fuck them

I wish that kid had someone who could have intervened. Or that he had done anything else, really. When I was his age, I was the exact same. Lonely, depressed, Mexican. It's a hard trio. I took to drinking early and I'm now a raging alcoholic at 20.

If anything, this makes me look at myself harder and see a path I could have taken.It's scary.

F dude. I hope the waifu is waiting for you meme is real. This kid doesn't deserve to enter the void to find nothing.