No.4036
When did you first realize that the Cintiq is nothing more than a meme tablet?
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No.4042
I think it was while watching pros like Aaron Blaise work; I realized that his movements weren't any faster or much more accurate than my own, though he's certainly a much better artist and has a much better visual library to work with than I do and perhaps ever will, I realized that when it comes purely to control a Cintiq doesn't offer you anything an Intuos Large can't.
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No.4045
>>4042
To add, I think people get memed into them because they use the much more popular and less expensive small tablets and just jump straight into Cintiqs.
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No.4046
When I borrowed my brother's and noticed how much more comfortable a bigger tablet without screen was.
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No.4071
When I started drawing on paper again and remembered how annoying it was for my hand to be in the way of the drawing.
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No.4074
>>4036
Thinking about it and realizing some stuff.
People have already mentioned that it's more comfortable, doesn't offer any more precision, and your hand doesn't get in the way, which is most of what I'd mention.
Though you also don't have to worry about getting into an awkward position as well. With a screen tablet you've gotta, you know, actually touch the screen. In most setups that can get to be pretty cumbersone, where as a tablet can be anywhere.
Personally, all it took for me to adjust to the disconnect of a tablet was changing the cursor I was using to a crosshair.
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No.4080
>>4036
When I did a little research concerning graphics tablets to buy my first one.
It's already common knowledge on most serious art boards.
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No.4091
When my brother and I paid about $80 (we split half and half) for a 12wx from a friend of his. The seller wanted to get rid of it after buying a 13HD. One of the things that got in the way was the converter box. It wasn't difficult to set up, but it was bulky. The screen wasn't 1080p either, but the buttons were easy to press. It was worth buying, though, and it's worth upgrading over a Bamboo Fun thanks to the hotkeys and tilt functions. It's got the same pressure sensitivity anyway.
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No.4092
>>4091
I forgot to mention that the power brick got in the way, and the condition was great without scratches. There was nothing missing, and we even have the box, too.
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No.4093
>>4091
Of course it's worth upgrading over a bamboo fun. The Cintiq 12wx might be terrible but it's certainly better than anything short of a Intuos Large as long as it functions properly. $80 is a good score for that as long as it works. I had one but it had a terrible issue where the pressure sensitivity would spike every couple of strokes.
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No.4290
How do you get over the disconnect of not looking at where you're drawing?
I recently picked up a little Wacom from NewEgg on sale, and my art has instantaneously reverted to a 4th grade level. Not even 4th grade. I'm back to wobbly tube figures.
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No.4293
>>4036
If I may ask, what size tablet is ideal? I can afford any size, but I'm thinking about whether it would be better to buy the Large (to learn how to do large strokes) or the Medium and Small (more comfortable). What's the actual difference?
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No.4294
>>4290
The "disconnect" is NOT a product of you not looking at the surface you're drawing on, but stems from the disparity between the size of the tablet you're using and the size of the monitor you're using it on.
If you get a Large tablet (either the Intuos Large or the Huion Giano) the disconnect is minimal and is something you quickly adjust to. If you're at all serious about freehand drawing I wouldn't settle for anything less and suggest you discard the small tablet you've purchased immediately. I've used tablets ranging from Small, Medium, Large and Cintiq and I'm not bullshitting when I say that the Small tablet put me off of drawing for many years.
Until I tried other devices I had no conception of how the little fucker was truly holding me back. The Intuos Large and Huion Giano are both highly competitive and much more cost-effective alternatives to a Cintiq and are certainly worth coming out of pocket for versus any of the lesser models.
>>4293
Small is not so much 'comfortable' as it is 'slippery'. It might be more comfortable for browsing the internet and navigating menus etc. because your wrist movement is minimal, but they're a nightmare for freehand drawing. When you start using your shoulder to draw like you should be doing to begin with, navigating the menus is a breeze and it's worth having to move your ass a little bit more for the amount of precision it affords you, it's a Cintiq that just happens to be flat on your desk instead of in your face.
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No.4296
>>4294
>the problem isn't the perspective, it's the ratio
Huh. Well fuck. I bought a tiny little 8x6 one because I figured cheap was the way to go for a demo. I didn't even consider this possibility.
Thank you for the advice.
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No.4297
>>4296
No problem man, as you can see from the pics I've wasted a lot of money to find that simple fact out for myself. It's best to pretend that anything short of the Huion Giano or the Intuos Large don't exist.
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No.4301
>>4036
When did you realise that digital art is nothing more than a meme medium?
JK
I eventually sold my Cintiq and got a large Intuos. Don't really miss it and having spent the last 1.5 years working traditionally, I miss it even less because it never felt like you're drawing on your paper or canvas. It's more like when you were at a museum as a kid and tried to point to a place on some map but you ended up pointing to the wrong spot because there was a piece of glass in the way stopping you from connecting with the map. I never shook that feeling when using a Cintiq
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No.4302
>>4301
Yeah I definitely understand what you're talking about, the cursor is always a couple of troubling millimeters off from your intended area. When you're not actually looking at the surface you're drawing it's much less of a problem.
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No.4576
Whenever I think of things like a cintiq, I think of crappy illustrators that believe using expensive tools will magically make them better illustrators/artists.
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No.4579
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No.4582
>>4576
What drawing program and brushes should I use to become a pro artist??? Anyone have a tutorial that will teach me how to draw well??
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No.4583
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No.4584
>>4582
>>4576
>How many hours do I need to practice before I'm good?
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No.4620
>>4294
>Huion Giano
I keep finding post of people recommending getting a Wacom instead of Huion. I currently have a Wacom Pen and Touch (off the top of my head, I think the model is CTH-046). You've just described the problem that pretty much put me off of drawing, the aspect ration of my tablet is small compared to my monitor.
I really want to get a bigger tablet but the Wacom ones are expensive. I am considering buying the Huion but everyone and their dog keeps saying that the drivers are shit or the it doesn't work with a particular program. I want to ask you anon, how fucked are the drivers, and can I use the Giano with Krita and GIMP?
While I'm at it, how long does the nib last (do you use some plastic to cover the tablet)? Can I use some garden strimmer as a replacement (currently using it on my wacom)?
Thanks
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No.4622
>>4620
You shouldn't use GIMP. The Giano works fine in Krita but Krita is itself an unstable program, too.
As far as the nib goes, I haven't had to replace mine yet and it doesn't look like I'm going to need to any time soon, the surface on the Giano is similar to the Intuos 3 which was kind of a rubbery/plasticky surface that doesn't really wear on the nibs like the Wacom Gen 4 and up tablets did.
That said, while I am a fan of the Giano, I would nonetheless recommend the Wacom if you can conceivably afford it just because the Wacom stylus is much better as far as how it feels and its sensitivity levels. Also one thing I'd recently discovered is that the Intuos' drawing "resolution" is better. What I mean by that is how despite the fact the Giano has a slightly bigger active area the minimum amount of movement the Giano recognizes vs the Intuos Large is noticeable and you have to actually move the stylus vertically or horizontally to leave a mark.
The Giano is still easily the second best conventional tablet available but the Intuos Large is worth the extra money (unfortunately).
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