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No.3352
Sorry about making a new thread about such a topic, but where exactly do I start? What should I begin with to get good at art?
How do I get the motivation not to give up by how bad my drawings will be?
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No.3353
You start with LOOMIS, of course.
But have you read the sticky yet? How about >>>/art/ 's? Concerning motivation, there are ways to circumvent the need for it, like making practice an habit. Search for self-improvement books.
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No.3354
>>3353
I'll take a look at the stickies. Little doubtful about self-improvement books, though. Aren't those books nothing more than scams?
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No.3355
>>3354
Maybe I used the wrong term, I'm not a native speaker. I meant the kind of books that teach you how to break up tasks in smaller manageable subtasks, how to focus, how to learn good habits with cognitive behavioral techniques, that kind of things. I suggest checking out Matt Kohr's videos, specifically the ones from chapters 18 (Theory & Mindset) and 19 (Study Habits).
http://www.ctrlpaint.com/videos/being-a-beginner
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No.3356
>>3352
>How do I get the motivation not to give up by how bad my drawings will be?
You don't
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No.3357
>>3352
you just keep going fam. you just keep drawing shitty art and succeed or fail everyday until you get good one day, hopefully.
take me for example I am atempting to copy 1 drawing from "Charles Bargue - Drawing Course" a day hoping that I might get better with no guarantee that it will.
I know my drawing sucks, I push my pen too hard and my shadows are horrible and theres probably a millon other things thats wrong with it that I just don't realise it.
I think I am gettign better at 1min gestures tho.
but you gotta try, hope and belive. because you and me we're all gonna make it bruh.
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No.3358
>>3352
I suggest Keys to Drawing first by Bert Dodson while spending a few WEEKS+ including the practice of Peter Han's Dynamic Sketching videos, and then after that Loomis, Loomis, Loomis, Hampton, Vilppu your heart out
Keys to Drawing (Bert Dodson) - https://www.amazon.com/Keys-Drawing-Bert-Dodson/dp/0891343377 ( You can find the .pdf in /loomis/' mega repository here: https://mega.nz/#F!es1BSKQR!spODyd0iaQmMelGA2GscFw!Xl9FCbTY )
Dynamic Sketching (Peter Han) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgDNDOKnArk and then https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFVggG7ajXM
>How do I get the motivation not to give up by how bad my drawings will be?
Understand that you WILL get through a lot of shit drawings before you git gud, shit drawings are a part of the process, you won't be slapping down great drawings all the time and when you're learning shit's gonna look shit cause you're still learning.
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No.3360
Probably echoing a few other anons here, but you shouldn't think about "seeking" motivation, because regardless of how "motivated" you can be on one day: you'll inevitably end up "unmotivated" another day. This cannot be stopped, and therefore, isn't reliable. Instead of wasting any time looking for that one image, quote, or thought that's going to zap you with inspiration to get moving; literally just show up with a pencil in hand, a paper in front of you, and no expectations of quality. Just trust the process, trust that your only as good as you are at the moment, and the only way to change that is by trying your hardest now, regardless of how shitty the result.
believe it or not, no matter how good you get, the feeling of disappointment with your results will persist and the feelings of proudness and being impressed with yourself will always be fleeting moments.
I'm not sure it's very helpful to say "just do it" with nothing inspirational to say but that's literally it, motivation and inspiration are overrated concepts. just rely on sheer willpower alone, and do something because you said you would do it, rather than thinking about how to get started or how to make it the next best thing.
Kinda rambled alot, so I don't know if any of this was helpful, but hopefully there's at least one thing you can extract from this.
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No.3361
Everyone says "draw from life", okay, but what if I don't have access to real models? Do you guys use photos for reference?
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No.3362
>>3361
Yeah, it's possible to get far without ever using a real life model, by using ref websites like http://artists.pixelovely.com/practice-tools/ and studying books, naturally it'll help to drop into a life drawing class to study from a real model but for a beginner it's not a killer.
Also, drawing from life you can study inanimate objects like fruits and foods, cups, bottles, tables, chairs, any old random object you find around the house and build up your observational drawing skill.
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No.3364
>>3362
To add to this, still life's of basic objects are extremely undervalued. Doing these consistently not only improves things like observation and knowledge of lighting; but is also the best way to nurture an innate sense of form and perspective, which is a skill that's pretty much essential to being able to draw anything without reference. If it takes too long for you to construct, the perspective is weak, and you MUST rely on reference to do anything; things like animation, comics, illustration, storyboarding, etc., would take too long to be practical.
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No.3370
>>3352
Motivation is temporary, discipline is forever. Set apart a certain amount of time each day for practice. Do it even when you don't feel like it.
"Boring" exercises are vital for success. Mix in the boring stuff with drawings for pleasure; this will help keep you from getting to discouraged.
Save your old sketchbooks or digital files. You may not get really good quickly, but if you look back on your old stuff and compare it to your recent stuff, the improvement you'll see will be a great confidence booster.
Good luck OP
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No.3371
>tfw decide to draw for practice
>tfw it's doesn't feel like I'm practicing or progressing
Anyone know this feel and how to combat it?
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No.3372
>>3358
>Peter Han
I'm actually gonna hijack this thread for a request. I really like this guy's videos and I heard he made a book over more dynamic drawing. Anyone have a pdf of it?
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No.3373
>>3372
As far as I know he hasn't written any book yet. This book however is said to contain all the same principles he teaches and more.
https://a.cocaine.ninja/czvpon.pdf
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No.3374
>>3371
Have you tried looking at your old drawings? Surely you'll notice at least a little progress.
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No.3376
>>3373
Not him, but damn that book looks fun.
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No.3385
>>3371
Draw then look at the world, try to notice what's off with your drawing, what's not quite right, then once you've come to a few epiphanies, go back and practice them.
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