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▶ No.12607 >>12612
>>12599 (OP)
i'm not that familiar with arthurian lore.
wanna explain?
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▶ No.12612 >>12613 >>12617 >>13547
>>12607
Percival was a Welsh boy who lived in a secluded area with his mother and her servants. One day, while hunting in a forest, he runs into some knights who are searching for a party of missing people that supposedly passed through his mother's land. After seeing the knights he becomes obsessed with the idea of becoming a knight himself. When he tells his mother this she freaks out because she's afraid that he's going to get himself killed in battle, like his father. After much arguing, she reluctantly agrees to let him go into the outside world to try and become a knight.
The hook is that he has no idea how to interact with people and he puts acting like a knight, or rather what he thinks a knight is supposed to act like, before everything else. This leads to a series of episodes that start out somewhat comedic, but gradually become more tragic until he comes to his senses. I think the story is supposed to be about how blind focus on chivalry can damage your relationship with both your family and God.
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▶ No.12613 >>12614
>>12612
I always found it strange that at the beginning of the story when his mom falls down and dies he doesn't go back and check on her even though he doesn't know that she's dead.
The real proof of his autism is when he wants the shiny armor that that knight had so much that he threw a javelin through his visor and killed him. Or when he obeyed the knight's advise to the letter on how to act without really questioning it at all. But then again he's Welsh so he's obviously going to be a complete retard.
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▶ No.12614
>>12613
>I always found it strange that at the beginning of the story when his mom falls down and dies he doesn't go back and check on her
Women faint and collapse all the time in medieval stories, when they get upset(I think even King Arthur himself does it once), so I guess it was the norm back then, in fiction at least. My guess is he thought she was just being dramatic.
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▶ No.12617 >>12618 >>12619
>>12612
sounds interesting, what book.
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▶ No.12618 >>12619 >>12622
>>12617
The original is Chretien de Troyes' Percival, or The Story of the Grail. He died before he could complete it, but four other writers tried to finish it later on with varying results. The only book I know of that has all of the continuations is "The Complete Story of the Grail", translated by Nigel Bryant.
Aside from those, there's The High Book of the Grail, The Trilogy of Arthurian Romances Attributed to Robert de Boron, Parzival(which I've heard is widely regarded as one of the pinnacles of medieval literature, second only to the Divine Comedy), and the Vulgate and Post-Vulgate cycle. I haven't read any of these yet, so I can't say if they're faithful to the themes of the original work or not.
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▶ No.12619 >>12622
>>12617
Basically what this guy said >>12618. Chretien wrote five Arthurian romances you can probably find a compilation of all of them to read. None of them are particularly long, about 6000 lines each. They're a good way of getting into medieval knight literature. If you like the romantic aspect, read the Lais of Marie de France. If you like the knightly combat read the Song of Roland.
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▶ No.12622 >>13553 >>13584
>>12618
>>12619
that's great news to me.
i actually own a collection of chretien's works, but of course i haven't read it.
you know how used books markets are, if you lose the chance, you'll hardly get another…
thanks guys.
and i'm quite familiar with the song of roland.
it's sort of mandatory reading in my school system, especially because these two
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orlando_Innamorato
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orlando_Furioso
were written by two people from my home town.
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▶ No.13547 >>13584
>>12612
Doesn't sound autistic to me.
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▶ No.13553
>>12622
So you're Portuguese?
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▶ No.13584
>>12622
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orlando_Innamorato
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orlando_Furioso
These are really good. Probably the best examples of how to do parody while also having a genuinely intriguing story and characters. You've probably read this already, but if not you should definitely check this one out https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerusalem_Delivered
It's my personal favorite epic poem, though I admit it's not perfect.
>>13547
It's more the way talks and interprets things. Like when a guy tells him not ask questions all the time, he interprets it as "I'm never allowed to ask any kind of question ever again." Or when his mom tells him never to take more than a kiss and a ring from a lady, he interprets it as "I have to kiss all the women I meet and take their rings whether they want me to or not."
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