/liberty/ - Liberty

Apparently, the glorious superpower of tomorrow has realized that it can't keep production levels up. Perhaps building literal ghost towns isn't so good for the economy, after all.

If you ask me, I think that US imperialism will stop sometime in the next decades, and that the country will hopefully splinter up into a few smaller ones. The next cultural center of the world might just be Eastern Europe, and if Western Europe wants to retain its current position, it must align itself. China will remain in its eternal faggotry, and expand it to parts of Africa. And the Middle East might just become a power to be reconned with in the long-term.

>>98943

Reconning the Middle East will be a difficult task.

I largely agree with your assessment, although I think that the bugmen will continue to expand in a bubble until those African nations try to obtain gibs from Chinese businessmen, at which point pressures from India, Korea, and Japan will create the ability for a civil war to take place in China. The Middle East is a grandfather beast that consumed faster than it could grow. You're seeing the remnants of the Ottoman Empire and similar institutions lashing out as their last grasps on power are reduced to rubble. If Western Europe isn't consumed by all the migrants, than you'll see said migrants return to the Middle East in droves when the Western European bureaucratic complex collapses in on it's own weight much in the way the Mexicans went back to Mexico during the US Recession. Once Venezuela stabilizes and we figure out more efficient fuel extraction methods, the Saudi's grip on power will die (either because they went power mad like Erdogan in Turkey, or because the oil dried up since their reserves are largely overstated). When that happens, combined with the US imperialist systems finally collapsing in on themselves, you're likely to see Israel destroy itself from the inside (Leftists are already making large gains in the country and would likely open the borders thanks to their "all Jews are Israeli citizens" policy that's haphazardly enforced). I don't think the Middle East will be a super power at all in the next 50 years, in fact I think they'll continue to degenerate further and further until their society is comparable to Western Africa.

>>99033

>all problems will eventually fix themselves

Again with this nonsense that lazy libertarians delude themselves with to feel like everything is fine in this fucked up world.

>>99038

I'd come up with a proper response to this, but >>99039

No one is saying the alternative will be better, but an alternatively worse society will collapse just that much faster. You can't remove the soul from the human, anon. Unless you believe in mass and repeating collapse and fall over exponentially shorter and shorter periods of time, the only solution that will stand the test of time is a smaller government or a technological singularity, but the second would require very, very specific circumstances. If ancient times had the tech we have now, they would be infinitely larger governments than we have now, it was the lack of tech that was the only thing to make them preferable.

>>99039

>surely everyone is a perfectly rational and logical human being like I am

>surely people learn from the mistakes of history

>surely no one wants their country to turn into a shithole like Venezuela

>surely after the Soviet Union collapsed, everyone realized what a failure socialism was and us righteously right libertarians were proven to be rightfuly correct once again!

>we CAN'T NOT have ancap after all that! right?

>>>/reddit/

>>99052

We can't keep surviving collapse after collapse. This isn't like the past anymore.

>an AI developed by the government will be a god-like entity, designed to enslave us

>every year the environment is becoming less capable of sustaining us, and that's not counting the global warming scam

>low IQ mutts and niggers will not ask for less gibs and less government after Europeans have been out-bred and genocided, assuming anything even matters after that

>>99053

>What if a government A.I.

China tried exactly that and shut it down because it found 80% of their politicians all the way down tho the gubernatorial finance officer level were corrupt. The other 20% were probably just good at hiding it.

>>99059

>>99053

As for your other problems, Global Warming (if it even exists) doesn't become net detrimental to human society until 2070 and I don't care what niggers and mutts want. 90% of the human races could die off and it wouldn't bother me that much. I care about if I can legally and unreservedly defend myself from whatever mongrel hordes you envision. The Crusade-era durkas were a much bigger threat than this migrant crisis, and civil war will likely break out in most areas long before the sandniggers ever become the absolute majority in Germany or France. Most of the women raped by sand niggers were broken before they decided to fuck one/accept date rape drugs from one and half of Europe was raped by the Slavs during/after WWII and bounced back just fine (more or less). If a nation can't survive/start a civil war over a Muslim horde due to their own government sacrificing them, they don't deserve to exist. Let Eastern Europe take over the civilized world at this point. They can't do a worse job than the EU has already.

Obviously the explosion of growth that was caused by Deng Xiaopings Narket reforms in the 80s-90s can not be sustained forever and will / has slowed down at a certain point

Which is why the Chinese goverment must / Has been enacting further reforms experimental measures and programs to better control regulate and grow the Chinese economy while guaranteeing the standard of living of the Chinese population

Plenty of nations economies are stagnating / collapsing at any given time

China's economy growing at a slightly slower rate then predicted is not much of a concern

>>99104

>>99109

Reminder that the USSR's highest reported GDP was in the year that it fell.

They are already outsourcing the industry on china to countries like Etiopia, they might be forced to stop encoraging exports with shrewd monetary politics.

>>99109

Though the USSR's did slow and stagnate through the 80's thinking that was the sole cause of its collapse and not the massive sabotage that took place under Gorbachev (Dissolving of CMEA / WP / dismantaling DotP / Pulling out of Afghanistan / National-Question) is ridiculous

Yuri Andropov's reforms during his brief tenure as Soviet leader saw a decent decrease to the economic stagnation

>>99110

See my above reply

<TLDR

A crisis occurring within a socialist state's economy does not mean it has "Failed" as a reform or other methods of fixing a problem is always possible

This would pretty much be like me saying capitalism can never bounce back from a crisis because the Market and the goverment can't recalibrate themselves to solve it

>>99141

>Pulling out of Afghanistan was a massive sabotage which aided the collapse of the USSR

>Ending a costly foreign entanglement destabilized the state via economic damage

How could that possibly be true?