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Ya'll need Mises.

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 No.96697[Last 50 Posts]

how do you prevent idiocracy from happening due to free market capitalism?

social media and desensitizing media will make the population dumber

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 No.96699

>>96697

You just don't subsidize the breeding of idiots. They rely on transfers to persist. Remove that and they will dwindle.

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 No.96700

>>96699

Transfers?

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 No.96701

The fact that Idiocracy didn't produce more virulent anti-democratic intellectuals clearly indicates that nobody actually paid attention while watching it.

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 No.96702

>>96701

It had to do with capitalism not democracy

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 No.96705

>Implying free market competition enables idiots

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 No.96708

>>96700

>>96702

The underclass of first world societies subsists almost entirely on welfare in one form or another.

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 No.96729

>>96700

Economists call welfare payments "transfers".

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 No.96741

>>96697

it is their iq not yours

their iq is not your property so keep out

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 No.96750

Idiocracy happens because of the degenerative effects of democracy and equality rhetoric. Liberty and meritocracy are the antithesis of both these things, and will be heavily promoted in the free market. Free enterprise, then, is the solution to idiocracy, not the source of the problem.

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 No.98564

File: dff9c6454fe60d7⋯.jpg (27.98 KB, 700x759, 700:759, ww318.jpg)

People who often worry about Idiocracy forget that climate change in the next few decades or WW3 starting (the US will have to use war to hold up the economy when we lose world reserve currency status) will most likely kill the idiots off and bring back natural selection before "Idiocracy" an take hold in hundreds of years.

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 No.98569

>>96697

Idiocracy is the result r-selected vermin having their poor habits be subsidized and encouraged, because the consequences for their retarded actions are diffused throughout the country. A system of free enterprise would promote the opposite of idiocracy, as the market will encourage competition and devour the indolent.

>>98564

>that climate change in the next few decades

>climate change

>killing anyone

I've got a biodegradable, carbon-neutral bridge I'd like to sell to you.

>the US will have to use war to hold up the economy

>throwing productive resources away into a meat grinder will prop up the economy

>if I multiply broken window fallacy times 6 million maybe it will work this time

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>will most likely kill the idiots off

What idiots? War is an inherently dysgenic process; the strongest men of a generation are sent off in their prime to die in droves for the protection of the weak and the freeloaders. You're just accelerating the trend already in place.

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 No.98570

File: e9e0e49d1b2ab55⋯.jpg (1.43 MB, 3000x2271, 1000:757, petrodollar.jpg)

>>98569

>climate change

>killing anyone

Expect many more refugees from the middle east if this continues. And that is not even to mention wars fought over water

https://www.economist.com/middle-east-and-africa/2018/05/31/climate-change-is-making-the-arab-world-more-miserable

>the US will have to use war to hold up the economy

>throwing productive resources away into a meat grinder will prop up the economy

>if I multiply broken window fallacy times 6 million maybe it will work this time

OK.jpg

No but it allows the state to keep the Keynesian economic model and spending going and mask the affects of depression such as low unemployment even though as Hayek, said, we'd have nothing to eat. Things only got better after the end of WW2 but the broken window fallacy doesn't apply to Halliburton and other defense contractors who get rich off war. It is also a useful way to rally an increasingly diverse country around a common enemy such as China or Russia. Especially when the introduce a currency that threatens your petro dollar.

>War is an inherently dysgenic process; the strongest men of a generation

Strong doesn't mean smart, and intelligence is why homo sapiens is where it is. Do you think guys like Musk or Zuckerberg are doing the fighting? And if things get really bad, (with climate change being potentially civilization ending) you end up with a Mad Max scenario where government doesn't exist anymore and the freeloaders don't have the same systems to protect themselves anymore. Just the strong, smart, savage, and lucky left to fend for themselves

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 No.98571

>>98570

* High unemployment, my mistake

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 No.98572

>>98569

>>98571

Did I also mention nukes which could end up being deployed in a WW3 scenario in which case we all live in Fallout minus the retrofuturism.

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 No.98573

>>96697

>Dumb population makes mistake

>Dumb population dies or gets their shit together

Seems pretty straightforward to me.

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 No.98593

>>96697

>that picrel

>due to social media, central banks

[citation needed]

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 No.98595

>>98572

>getting your predictions for nuclear war from a fucking video game

Where's Oppenheimer when you need him?

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 No.98598

>>96697

>happening due to free market capitalism

Do you have something to prove your assumption?

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 No.98608

IQ scores are falling because we're literally importing and feeding pet shaved monkeys and calling them people.

European-American IQ is steadily rising since 1931 when it was first recorded in military vocational tests.

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 No.98609

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>>98570

>muh gwabu wabu

Fuck off.

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 No.98610

>>98608

yes because capitalism helps with immigration. people who do jobs for literally nothing aren't imported right?

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 No.98611

>>98570

>Expect many more refugees from the middle east if this continues.

Muh climate change is the excuse for importing them here, not the actual reason. It can't be the actual reason, because anthropomorphic don't real, it's just a scare-mongering meme used to con people into giving more taxes and more power to the state.

>No but it allows the state to keep the Keynesian economic model

Yeah, and the Keynesian economic model is wrong and not representative of reality. And the reality is you can't use war to prop up an economy, that's not how shit works.

>the broken window fallacy doesn't apply to Halliburton and other defense contractors who get rich off war

Of course it does. The whole point of the broken window fallacy is opportunity cost, and there is a massive opportunity cost to the taxpayers when Lockheeb et al get billions of dollars in pork barrels. That cost is even higher when you realize nearly all of that materiel is thrown into a meatgrinder, making it an even bigger waste of money compared to, say, Amtrak.

>Strong doesn't mean smart

And smart doesn't mean evolutionarily fit; I've met plenty of people that are book-smart but are utterly useless wastes of space. Further, you're making a number of bad assumptions about the draft, military service, and what it implies in order to fit it into this "lel war is eugenics" narrative you've created.

For starters, strong does not imply dumb, nor does mil recruitment favor the dumb over the smart. Therefore, you have no reason to assume that the enlisted men who get sent to die are any less intelligent than the ones who stayed behind. Further, there are attributes to consider beyond brute strength and intelligence. First, there's the simple fact that the newly enlisted are composed of able-bodied men from their late teens to mid twenties–in other words, people who are in the prime of their lives, who are the backbone of creativity, ingenuity, and productivity in any economy. I shouldn't have to explain why sending such a resource to die in droves is a net loss. Second, regardless of intelligence or brute strength, a man who volunteers for enlistment tends to be above-average in other attributes–more willing to self-sacrifice, more proactive and less reactive, and so on.

> Do you think guys like Musk or Zuckerberg are doing the fighting

assuming for the moment both of those people are as intelligent as the memes make them out to be: Do you think outliers like that are a good measure of the quality of the average man in society? If you want to make an honest comparison, you would compare Joe Schmoe who joined the Army to Joe Schmoe who did not.

>>98610

They are if they vote Democrat.

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 No.98619

>>98610

It is NEVER economical to import immigrants or export a job to a foreign country. The ONLY reason it happens is because local laws passed by government incentivize that behavior.

For example importing illegal immigrants makes sense if the government forces you to pay native labor at a certain "minimum wage" which the illegal immigrants can do for cheaper than the cost of importing them, or foreigners can do for less than the cost of exporting the production line to their country.

tl;dr no its not capitalism and please get the fuck out to venezuela and eat your pet gerbil for sustenance you pathetic commie scum.

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 No.98624

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>>98619

>It is NEVER economical to import immigrants or export a job to a foreign country.

>export a job to a foreign country

>never economical

>what is comparative advantage

The concept of division of labor is the entire premise of economics existing in the first place.

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 No.98644

>>96697

>heartless libertarians want all the mentally disabled to starve to death

>free markets allow idiots to flourish

Pick one, shill.

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 No.98646

CRISPR genes that will allow you to genetically engineer your children to be smart.

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 No.98648

File: 929e80383ff7c10⋯.jpg (334.62 KB, 1200x1200, 1:1, 1529650135504.jpg)

>>98646

>genetically engineer your children

>to be smart

You gotta think bigger than that.

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 No.98661

>>98648

bUT WHAT if yOU genETIcallY engiNEEr theM tO COnsenT?

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 No.98662

File: f7cfffc907468de⋯.jpg (17.63 KB, 480x360, 4:3, hqdefault (1).jpg)

>>98661

Now that's what I call eugenics.

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 No.98682

>social media and desensitizing media will make the population dumber

That works for like 1 or 2 generations, Gen Z is already checking out of social media, they don't have facebook, twitter, instagram or imgur accounts. Far more of their personal interaction is face to face than, say, millennials.

Once humans adapt and their psychology/biology changes, mass media is no longer a threat.

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 No.98693

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>>98662

Jokes asides, lets talk about free spreech for a bit

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 No.98704

>>98682

Really? Gen Z are checking out of the internet? Just judging by my younger cousins they still use it. Maybe, it differs from region to region I guess?

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 No.98706

>>98693

Pedos deserve nothing but death

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 No.98707

>>98706

you are not tolerant, are you?

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 No.98722

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>>98704

Checking out of social media =/= checking out of the Internet.

>>98706

Seconded.

>>98707

Is there some reason we should be?

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 No.98743

>98707

>98693

>libertarianism requires tolerance of my disgusting, vile impulses

Fuck off and die

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 No.98747

>>98722

>Is there some reason we should be?

yes

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 No.98757

>>98743

>libertarianism requires tolerance

Yes.

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 No.98763

>>98757

>>98747

Libertarianism does not require tolerance. If you think it does then you're a brainlet

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 No.98764

>>98763

Tolerance or rule. One of these is not libertarian.

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 No.98766

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>>98764

In libertarianism you create your own rules. Fuck off with your shit bait.

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 No.98767

File: 013de7db3597c26⋯.jpg (99.19 KB, 776x960, 97:120, helicopter time.jpg)

>>98764

>be anon nigger

>find someone's house

>set up camp in the attic

>soon discovered

<"Hey! You can't evict me, you're supposed to be tolerant!!11!!1"

>refuses to be escorted from premises

>shot dead

>body taken away by McTrashServices™ in the morning

Don't be surprised if you're first in line for physical removal.

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 No.98784

>>98766

>In libertarianism you create your own rules and make others follow them..

>Fuck off with your shit bait.

Well, you're self-answering.

>>98767

I just don't tolerate your property claims, man.

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 No.98787

>>98763

pedos dont break the NAP

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 No.98788

>>98787

Neither does it break the law. No one can know you're a pedo unless you tell them. What violates the NAP is having sex with children

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 No.98790

>>98784

>and make others follow them..

Don't put words in my mouth, nigger. Whether they choose to follow my rules or someone else's is up to them.

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 No.98791

>>98788

Children have the mental capacity to understand sex. They have the mental capacity to understand consent. There's no reason why sexual actions with a child breaks the NAP, unless you're actually doing it against their will or deceiving them.

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 No.98803

>>98790

What's this? You're willing to tolerate someone not following your rules somewhere?

~shrug~ This is (and will remain) easy…

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 No.98806

>>98803

~shrug~ Yeah, whatever, now fuck off.

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 No.98807

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>>98791

>Children have the mental capacity to understand sex. They have the mental capacity to understand consent.

>implying implications

You're casting the net pretty wide there. Clearly people are not born with their agency completely self-actualized, and if you're retarded you might never self-actualize it. An infant almost certainly cannot provide consent, while a 20 year old almost certainly can. When it comes to children, if they are not at the point where they have actualized their self-ownership, they cannot consent or form binding contracts.

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 No.98814

>>98807

>An infant almost certainly cannot provide consent

<but the reason I cannot sleep through the night is because it does not consent to being really fucking hungry.

'Reality' isn't a strong value with you guys, is it?

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 No.98819

>>98814

What are you trying to say? It seems like you're attempting to equate consent with the ability to experience emotions such as hunger.

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 No.98820

>>98791

fuck off degenerate piece of shit

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 No.98821

>>98807

Well, yeah. There's an implicit difference between infants and children.

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 No.98822

>>98791

If it's young enough that it has to rely on me for food/shelter/education/job experience/etc. it's too young for you to sleep with, pedo.

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 No.98825

>>98819

>What are you trying to say? It seems like you're attempting to equate consent with the ability to assent or dissent.

With just a little modification, it's a tautology. Hunger is a physical sensation, not an emotion, btw (and one which is often not consented to, along with other forms of pain and discomfort).

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 No.98850

>>96699

Correct. Idiots will still persist, but they're at least more likely to be productive idiots.

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 No.100650

REMOVE WARNING LABELS

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