No.93534
People say that Germany became an industrial powerhouse because National Socialism was flawless, yet they dont say what did they actually do to make Germany so productive (natsoc doctrine says productivity = wealth), was it really a success or it only grew so quickly because of a artificial demand made by the goverment on heavy industry?
No.93540
>>93534
>it only grew so quickly because of a artificial demand made by the goverment on heavy industry?
If only the lie was as innocent as all that. Most of the graphs people use to show the Reich's rapid growth are denoted in nominal terms, and don't account for the not-inconsiderable inflation of the reichsmark. Further, much of the growth in the industry can be associated not with a real increase in productivity, but in short-term gains from newly annexed territory. These fuckers weren't just printing money, they were plundering booty from new territory to paydebts back home. The whole affair was a bigger Ponzi scheme than even the US Federal Reserve, and the only reason it didn't collapse in on itself was because Allied bombs did it first.
No.93569
>>93540
This. The Alt Right won't listen why in current year, the McNuke, modern combined arms, and a carrier group will annihilate any real gains as the human capital of the nation is annihilated in a total war.
This alone is why the Alt-right can be ignored as gov subsidizing losers for soldiers of the race isn't going to end well. Even the left were never this suicidal. So of course our leaders suppress it, because they like not living in a nuclear wasteland.
They are losers expecting others to lose with them.
No.93570
It's so bad, you're better off swinging full communist. These guys are such relics high on their own propaganda.
No.93571
>>93569
The alt right isn't NatSoc. When will you retards stop parroting the same bullshit over and over.
No.93573
No.93580
>>93570
>It's so bad, you're better off swinging full communist
Threadly reminder that accelerationism doesn't work and never has.
No.93632
>>93540
i am going to screencap this since it's the best explanation that i have encountered and the best responset to peolpe who say "our natsoc economics were so good that the jews had to destroy us!".
No.93638
>>93580
Become a horrorist
No.93641
>>93632
Vicky 2 is a great game though.
No.93650
At the time France and the UK were richer and more advanced economies than Nazi Germany. Germany didn't surpass the UK till 1969.
No.93692
The Alt Right is Richard Spencer's Hookers and blow account. The mainstays are the dishonorably discharged, violent felons, LARPers, and rednecks. That's all their economics you need to know.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/qkNrd-fJWOc/
Le Edgy Right wing has nothing to do with that clown world.
No.93797
>>93641
No, it's literally keynesianist propaganda (the minimum price of goods are fixed, pops wont buy grain because they dont have money yet grain isnt being sold and farmers are also starving because thwy also cant buy grain and the price of grain won't drop any lower even with an high offer, as an example)
No.93801
>>93797
Can you refer me to the part in Keynes' work that those aspects of that game relate to please?
No.93953
>>93534
The German economy was not nearly as great as people make it out to be. Germany was in such a sorry state that it had about half the tanks France had when they went to war. Now, it should be obvious that a strong economy can produce strong armament, and yet the Nazis had no impressive weaponry at the time. They only won through superior strategy and the element of surprise.
>>93540 mentions how the Nazis faked their wealth.
No.93956
>>93953
Superior tactics, but inferior strategy. One of the reasons blitzkrieg surprised everyone was that for a lot of reasons it's a retarded idea, because you need to consolidate and develop annexed territory for it to do something for you, not just take it. The Reich never bothered to stop and build up logistics chains in the places they captured, they just kept pushing forwards and spending all of their money on wunderwaffen that were themselves logistical nightmares.
No.93959
>>93540
It's funny how this is actually another great proof against the holohoax, seeing as they couldn't possible have the resources to keep the supposed gas chambers running
No.93995
>>93959
Sorry, but actually the contrary is true. The small brain of the Prussian in its pointy hat simply noticed that a tonne of Jewish bodies had more gold content in them than a tonne of sea water. They experimented with filtering gold out of the sea, but since that was not profitable enough they turned to the gold in teeth, quite the amount actually.
No.94029
>>93995
That makes no sense. If they were actually killing people instead of making them work at the camps they'd just fuck themselves over financially/logistically a lot faster in the war, gold teeth or not. Auschwitz even got chimneys built on the supposed gas chambers after the war ended. You don't need to believe (((lies))) to criticize nazism.
No.94108
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
I don't think can be an ancap anymore lads
No.94129
>>93956
Why in the modern age, the civic of national socialism needs to be dumped before cities get nuked. Liberal democratic empires use monetary manipulation of a petrodollar of rich free citizens to fuel imperial ambitions with carefully considered proxy wars. Nazis need to take stuff directly by annexing their neighbors in escalating global conflicts.
The Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor when America refused to sell them oil to fuel their wars against our interests. So we flattened two cities after sinking their fleets. We roasted the Gemans with firebombs and let Stalin's brutality end the regime.
Reviving a bad ideas is a threat to international security for anyone who values their life.
No.94169
>>93571
by now, they've become near indistinguishable
No.94188
>>93692
I have to agree. The Alt-right is made up of opportunistic sociopaths who give directionless teenagers a sense of "Im part of the revolution!" and they have been reduced to basically being an youtuber gossip club.
No.94190
>>94129
>The Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor when America refused to sell them oil to fuel their wars against our interests. So we flattened two cities after sinking their fleets. We roasted the Gemans with firebombs and let Stalin's brutality end the regime.
I'd say you're earning that flag, but that says "revolutionary america" not "McPatriot". Next are you going to write a line about "well if you've got nothing to hide, then what are you worried about"? Pearl Harbor was a manipulated incident orchestrated in order to create a casus belli for the aforementioned "flatten[ing]" and "roasting" you're so proud of - an incident which cost the lives of many Americans, I would be remiss not to add. We joined these Foreign wars because the powers that be benefited immensely from our joining, don't believe for a moment the Japanese were either so drunk on Shinto or so misinformed they thought they could defeat us. The USA and all citizens thereof would have benefited far more from the merchant isolationism we were practicing up until then. Also you seem to think that "Stalin's brutality" is just some sort of karmic agent of justice and it's this exact type of thinking that cements in my mind that you a Real Patriot. Communism is definitively and without a doubt the worst kind of government that has ever existed. It would be preferable for the whole of Europe to be death camps than for those Communist fucks to have the reign they did in Germany and elsewhere. Our disgusting alliance during WW2 was downright shameful, maybe the most shameful thing in the war if you don't count the slaughter of civilians in a war that, I remind you, didn't involve us in the slightest.
No.94198
>>94190
>Oh shit my failed excuse of an ideology failed
>it's a conspiracy
>let's murder people until it works
>real nazi, commie, imperial alliances have never been tried
>and let's make fun of a successful scottish American restaurant while we're at it.
No.94387
No.94406
I view nazis as similar to communists in this regard; they claim that despite conventional wisdom, their respective exemplar economies were very successful.
And sure, they were very successful, if your metric for success isn't something that correlates with the comfort of your populace. From the perspective of leather boots and bombshells, they were undoubtedly prosperous. Just don't look at food production or the number of slaves, AKA capitalist agitator's who needed to be thrown into the gulag.
No.94409
>>94190
>Pearl Harbor was a manipulated incident orchestrated in order to create a casus belli for the aforementioned "flatten[ing]" and "roasting" you're so proud of
Pearl Harbor was just one part of a much larger Japanese operation that also included the invasion of Hong Kong, the invasion of the Philippines, of Indonesia. The whole point was that the european powers of Britain and the Dutch were too busy dealing with Hitler to care about their asian colonies, and America wasnt prepared for war and wouldnt be able to stand up to Japan if the bulk of their navy, which was shored up in Pearl Harbor, was knocked out in a surprise attack.
I cant fucking stand anti American axis cucked retarded conspiracy faggots like you who bend over backwards to shit on America for standing up to Japanese aggression. Fuck you jap apologist.
No.94416
>>94409
You don't need to be a "jap apologist" to realize that FDR was on the prowl for a cassus belli, or some excuse to enter the war and crush the isolationist movement; from a historical perspective, your blind boomer patriotism isn't much better than blind worship of the magic mustache man. There was no heroic side of WWII, just as there wasn't one in the first.
No.94417
>>94416
Youre gay youtube conspiracy theory zoomer shit isnt good at all though. Moral relativism and trying to pretend "b-both sides were equally bad!" is a shitty axisboo meme.
dont link a 6 hour long youtube documentary about how aliens got bigfoot to do pearl harbor as a falseflag either.
No.94424
>>94417
>no refutations
>REEEs about things that no one in thread has done
No.94427
>>94424
Refutation to what? You didnt make any claims that I havent already addressed, nor did you post any evidence for your conspiracy theory (since you have none)
Youre a gay retarded zoomer who watches youtube conspiracy theory videos rather than actually study history which is why you have such garbage takes.
No.94440
>>94108
Watched the video, it's just masturbation about production increases and only the good news of central planning, doesn't even point stuff like how Germany secured their access to steel
No.94445
>>94427
>FDR being a warhawk is le conspiracy theory
No.94473
>>94445
>moving the goalpost since you've been BTFOed.
The conspiracy is that the attack on Pearl Harbor was a manipulated incident orchestrated in order to give FDR a reason to enter to war. This is due to the fact that the US public education system is complete dogshit and it doesnt teach you history or anything else other than "muh self esteem" bc you might shoot up the school or hang yourself for being cyberbullied or something. This is why none of you seem to realize the attack on Pearl Harbor wasnt specific to an attack on Hawaii, but part of a much larger asian invasion plan with the express purpose of taking out the US navy while it had its back turned since that was the only thing at the time that could stand up to Japanese conquest of Asia and the pacific.
No.94481
>>94473
>The conspiracy is that the attack on Pearl Harbor was a manipulated incident
Point to where I said that, illiterate nigger.
No.94483
>>94481
see
>>94409
that was the point I was arguing against and then you said "no u dumb"