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 No.66329

 No.66330

>>66329

"Not real Socialism!": The lolcow that never stops giving


 No.66334

What price controls? It doesn't matter how much private sector you have, when you are pushing socialist policies upon it from a socialist party, then your country is effectively socialist run. Another duck and run tactic by socialists to ignore their own policies.


 No.66336

File: cc1cbf02faeca18⋯.png (118.96 KB, 392x366, 196:183, hysterical women.png)

>>66329

In hindsight, no economy is ever socialist. How long until Sweden stops being socialist, too? This is some 1984-esque shit right there.


 No.66340

>>66334

OP here.

Yea but dhei ar brivatized :D

t. redardedmousebroduction


 No.66345

>>66329

It's not. It's a shitty social democracy that got too dependent on oil, abused a trade loophole against the interests of its citizens , got hit with a string of economic sanctions and has little sympathy from most of the rest of the international community. Countries fail from dumb economic policies that aren't socialism, too, you know.


 No.66357

File: e7742fb7f07fe4d⋯.png (557.62 KB, 1067x1778, 1067:1778, 2017-09-03 19.09.25.png)

>>66345

>implying social democracy is not socialism

>social democracy

For exactly: "socialism with a smile"


 No.66364

>>66345

It was the commies who came here and proudly proclaimed that Venezuela was a Marxist paradise. For all you know, the OP could be making fun of their backtracking now that the country has gone down the shitter without thinking that it ever was actually socialist. Did you even consider that before saging, asshole?


 No.66381

File: ad814c652086d8e⋯.png (310.07 KB, 640x640, 1:1, 1504462070008.png)

You gotta give it to them, this really makes you think.


 No.66383

>>66329

>Democratic People's Republic of Korea wasn't """real democracy"""


 No.66402

File: 1838ecc7559bd6e⋯.png (74.36 KB, 311x395, 311:395, I_Have_toiletpaper.png)

>>66345

They've ripped apart private ownership of the means of production.

It's fucking socialism, faggot.


 No.66403

File: 95fbb5614fb830a⋯.mp4 (2.26 MB, 400x224, 25:14, places_socialism_doesnt_wo….mp4)

>>66329

It was socialism according to socialists all the way up until the economy started to fail, then all the armchair socialists jumped ship and claimed it wasn't socialism. If liberty is a majestic snek simply avoiding being stepped on, then socialism is a writhing maggot looking to infect its host while making it seem like everything else is the problem. The only things maggots are preferable to are flesh-eating/necrotic diseases that maggots happen to eat.


 No.66416

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

Student of hayek pretty much explain why this is bullshit


 No.66417

File: 587c881b225fec0⋯.png (114.99 KB, 500x472, 125:118, lunch time in venezuela.png)

>>66329

> Venezuela: it's not real socialism but all the protestors are paid drug dealers edition

Top fucking lel. I called it before and it's happened again.

>The economy is still 2/3 private!

>muh 80% private workforce

The first estimate was made around 2010 by it's central bank, so that's nearing 8 years ago, I think it's safe to say that there may have been a change considering all the businesses actively leaving and taking out any investments that they had in Venezuela.

The second one is a nice little tidbit because it leaves out a few details. The unemployment rate in Venezuela is around 20-25% as according to estimates by the IMF. So that's 7 million people unemployed, the average person is probably wondering, well how can that be? Well, a good portion of foreign investment basically withered away with Chavez after his promises that "whatever was private will become national", afterall that's what he did with a good portion of the country's businesses including oil, steel and food distribution businesses (all of which used to be very productive and profitable sectors of the Venezuelan economy) and the real nail in the coffin is all the price controls, the massive inflation, the nationalization of businesses (Which sort of DE-incentivizes people from investing into Venezuela as one would imagine). The employment that does exist in Venezuela is usually something as miniscule as someone selling something on the streets, but even a career such as that has a chance of being nationalized. It's like a Venezuelan friend of mine said "why even work when you get paid shit. you spend less stayin at home than going out". I don't know how the fuck this guy could sit down and say that it was the free market that caused Venezuela's woes, but it's definitely amusing to watch.

I mean, beforehand the free market did a fine job of feeding people of Venezuela but of course then came the nationalization of food. Chavez nationalized pretty much all sugar refineries, farm land and everything in between. Two things occurred: a.) food production decreased under nationalization in a similar fashion to oil output and B.) The government has virtually turned a country with a year-round growing season that would feed millions into a country where people have to either leave the country or resort to the black market just to feed themselves (with some farmers even turning to the black market to feed their own livestock).

But of course let's blame the free market. Fuggin Gabidalists.


 No.66419

>>66357

I wonder what /leftypol/ thinks of badmouse.


 No.66420

>>66416

Wow I just watched this guy he seems pretty good. Might check him out some more.


 No.66431

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 No.66434

I just leave this here


 No.66441

File: 1ace333a3fb7b1c⋯.jpg (36.73 KB, 472x347, 472:347, 1ace333a3fb7b1c1a191c66ed8….jpg)

>>66416

>my definition of socialism is different from your definition of socialism so your definition of socialism does not work due to the failed examples that fit under my examples of socialism.

>badmouse clings to the Marxian definition of socialism.


 No.66442

>>66441

>fit under my *definition of socialism


 No.66443

>>66336

"My specific brand of Socialism hasn't been done yet." That's what every single argument boils down to and there is no point to bother further with it.


 No.66444

>>66443

Sweden was never socialist, it's just deliberate misuse of the word.

>See, Sweden is socialist! Socialism is just capitalism with welfare! Please don't revolt, you can be happy under capitalism, promise!


 No.66445

You know how intelligent people view capitalism as a complex historical phenomena that has its own internal development and evolution, meanwhile simpletons just say that "capitalism is like, just exchanging stuff."


 No.66450

>>66444

He didn't mention Sweden though.


 No.66453

>>66450

It was meant to be a reply to >>66336


 No.66482

>>66445

simpletons also say "capitalism is like, just exploitation stuff."


 No.66483

>>66482

Nobody ever said that, though.


 No.66484

>>66483

Talk to any leftist.


 No.66486

File: f45c07d99b8dd22⋯.png (843.72 KB, 1260x637, 180:91, bad mouse.png)


 No.66488

>>66484

I do.


 No.66489

>>66486

Socialism is not real socialism


 No.66490

>>66488

ah, so you're a simpleton yourself.


 No.66512

>>66490

I'm not an ancap


 No.66514

File: 1160ee59a6a73bb⋯.webm (11.32 MB, 512x384, 4:3, venezuela_socialism.webm)


 No.66520

>>66512

yeah, you're even worse.


 No.66550

>>66453

ok then.




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