No.65480
Why is both the left and the 'alt-right' so fucking obsessed about skin color?
I remember racism being a non-issue in the 90's and early 00's. We were way beyond that archaic shit. What happened to judging people based on their individual character instead of their melanin count?
Now it's like we're in the twilight zone, as if we are transported back to 1932 Weimar Republic with commie and nazi LARPers clashing in the streets.
Holy shit, people are getting dumber and dumber. Millenials are a fucked generation.
No.65481
>>65480
Both the Left and the alt-right are two sides of the same coin. One side fights for color, the other fights against it. It seems this shit flared up with the whole Treyvon crap, with the Left looking for a martyr to push their cause, and the alt-right is just an expected reactionary push back.
No.65484
The fixation on skin color on either side is strange to me, because I don't fit into any of the division of humans created by the alt-right or the SJW/PC/whatever Left. I'm Turkish (born in Istanbul, came to the US at age 2), and I look, speak, and act like any other white American. The only reason my ethnicity ever comes into question is because I have an unusual, foreign name. FFS people think we're Russian or something when they hear my parents' accents, and if my name was John or David or something, nobody would have a fucking clue that I'm from the Middle East.
If an alt-right person tried to point to me as an example of a problematic immigrant (violent, unskilled, unwilling to assimilate, economically draining), they would look like an idiot. And SJWs would probably have a field day arguing over whether I'm a beneficiary of white privilege or an outcast minority.
In the time I've spent back in Turkey, I've seen people like my relatives who look completely European (sometimes with an Italian-looking tan), people who look like stereotypical Middle Easterns, and even people with traces of Asian features such as smaller eyes and a yellow-ish complexion. And we all share some sort of common racial heritage, however diluted it may be at this point in time.
tl;dr: It doesn't fucking matter.
No.65515
>>65480
>Alt-right
Believe that race and culture are inherently one-and-the-same. Thus, their immense disdain for interracial relationships. Generally believe that the notion of tribalism is inherently natural, and thus should be accepted, rather than turned down.
>Left
Believe that racism is ever-prevalent in society, even if examples of said racism ultimately results in splitting hairs. Believe in collective power structures, and subsequent abolition of them, at least on paper.
Millenials really got the shit stick when it comes to politics. No matter where you are on the spectrum, basically everyone outside of your approximate location hates your guts.
As an aside,
>First image
So why would Asian pride be considered fine, despite it being terribly similar to white pride, in this case?
No.65516
>What happened to judging people based on their individual character instead of their melanin count?
If this was just about melanin counts or facial features, then of course nobody would care. Who cares about what's only skin deep? However, that's not what this is about, and it's a bad faith argument to boil it down to this trivial level. This has to do with more important factors, namely things like IQ, disposition to positive and negative personality traits, and time preference. These are differences that help steer the direction a society goes. There is a reason we can't invade Afghanistan or Iraq and magically turn them into freedom-loving democracy lovers. There is a reason Africa continues to be an utter shitshow even after kicking whites out of nearly every nation. Academics love to invent reasons for this that blame external factors, but they are drawing conclusions before they look for evidence.
>Now it's like we're in the twilight zone, as if we are transported back to 1932 Weimar Republic with commie and nazi LARPers clashing in the streets.
As much as you or I may loathe it, tribal politics is making a return. There is no "let's all play nice." Ask a former Rhodesian about how that went for them. Winning control of the government now means near absolute control in the west. The left in the US and western Europe has been using immigration policy as a way of stacking the deck in their favor and we've all suffered for it. Do you think it is sustainable for our way of life to continue to import people from the worst places in the world, people who do not respect even the most basic societal norms or laws?
Of course one must realize that individuals are not beholden to the averages of the group at large. Each person is different, and many outliers exist. At the same time, one should not assume that the outlier is typical. "Prejudice" is literally pre-judgment, and it is a useful heuristic when you do not have the luxury of careful vetting. I would not say there is a 100% chance that a white person is smart or a black person is dumb, but I would say that a random white person is likely more intelligent than a random black person. I'd be right more often than I'd be wrong, and that is worth some practical value.
I'd love to live in a small, gated society that very carefully selects entrants on an individual basis. This group would weed out shitbags of all races and only accept the best people; this goes beyond just respecting the NAP. However, we cannot ignore that the state is making these choices for us, and we cannot sit idly by while they fuck everything up for freedom-loving individuals. Hence, tribal politics.
No.65517
>>65516
>This has to do with more important factors, namely things like IQ
Ashkenazis top the charts
>disposition to positive and negative personality traits
Jews have one of the lowest recidivism and delinquency rates amongst all the races.
>and time preference.
Jews are fucking rich.
Please be logically consistent (unlike every other race realist I've heard from) and agree that the Jews deserve to run the show. Otherwise, if your response is going to be, "Jews were kicked out of {insert list of countries}" you're going to be hypocritical considering you also said:
>There is a reason Africa continues to be an utter shitshow even after kicking whites out of nearly every nation
Please be the one race realist who's consistent about his position and doesn't suddenly flip the goddam world around and twist facts and reality to then turn around and hate on Jews like every /pol/tard I've met on this goddam board.
No.65519
>>65517
I'm not a /pol/tard. Jews have a lot of advantages over whites, especially in the things you mentioned. Regardless of your views on Israel, they've definitely created a strong society in a very short amount of time. Their faults are typically not the kind that destroy societies.
That being said, I'm still wary of them because they're so fiercely tied to their ingroup, and are very often leftists. Like I said, it's more than just intellectual capacity or disposition to violence. I guess a lot of that is nurture and not nature, so I'd definitely look for those that didn't grow up in Jewish neighborhoods.
No.65521
>>65486
I always loved how John and Mudasir give each other that look like they've both seen some shit.
It's been a long time since I've gotten this high…
No.65522
>>65480
>Why is both the left and the 'alt-right' so fucking obsessed about skin color?
It's more than that, as you know.
>I remember racism being a non-issue in the 90's and early 00's. We were way beyond that archaic shit.
Country continued to be overrun, nobody noticed because the economy was good.
>What happened to judging people based on their individual character instead of their melanin count?
Maybe people realised how urgent things were- and that the other side doesn't think like this.
>pic
White pride obviously refers to a race, not a culture. Nobody really talks about 'white culture' that I know of (though I think you easily could)
>other pic
The cleverest people talk about race affecting tendencies, not 'defining' one's destiny exactly.
>flag
Blinding yourself to the effects of demographic changes is hardly conservative.
>>65517
Some believe in Jewish nepotism.
Regardless of whether they 'deserve' to control society, I certainly don't want them to, because they have their own agendas and survival strategies (destroying the host society from within)
No.65525
>>65486
I like that guys comic does he still do comics?
>>65515
>Believe that race and culture are inherently one-and-the-same.
I could never agree with that. Just because someone has a race doesn't mean culturally they are connected to it. For example in my state we get a lot of Japanese tourists and there are locals that are of Japanese descent. There's a pretty significant difference between the local Japanese and tourist Japanese. The fashion sense is different, local Japanese tend to be a bit darker or tan while tourist Japanese are incredibly pale and occasionally have crooked teeth. Culturally the local Japanese are tied with local culture and not so much Japanese culture though it is seen as more of an ancestral thing to be proud of but local culture takes precedent. The point is despite being the same Japanese race they are not the same culturally and wouldn't fit well together. It's like taking Brazillian Japanese and dumping them in Japan they wouldn't last long.
No.65526
>>65522
>Regardless of whether they 'deserve' to control society, I certainly don't want them to, because they have their own agendas and survival strategies
And that's the exact argument that Mugabe uses to kick white farmowners out of Zimbabwe.
No.65533
>>65526
>And that's the exact argument that Mugabe uses to kick white farmowners out of Zimbabwe.
He had every right to
No.65535
No.65536
>hurrr race dindu bixnoodu real!111 read mein atlas
>statistics? dont real !!1
>what? removing nogs spocs jiggaboos and nignaggers would reduce the chance of getting raped, maimed or robbed?? RACE DONT REAL WHITEY RAPEY TOO FAKE POLIS STATISTICS ACAB
fuck off Rand
No.65537
Not a /pol/tard, but there a bit of truth in their disdain of jews. It's true that the Rothschilds, Israel, and a sizable amount of jewish congressmen, senators, lobbyists and corporatists are doing evil things, but it's not because they're jewish, it's because they're using state violence to further their own interests, whether that be the enslavement of everyone through the federal reserve, destabilization of the Middle East to further israeli interests, or just straight up corporatism like what Disney's doing.
/pol/ and its ilk blaming every jew for the actions of the Rothschilds and Israe, is just as idiotic as Antifa blaming all Germans for the actions of the Nazis. If anything, they're just proving the zionists right that there's still so much antisemitism left in the world, and they use that proof to denounce critics of Israel as antisemites. And worst of all, they're banking or at least some of them used to bank on Donald Trump being the God-Emperor who could make America great again, and defeat ZOG, even though he's proven himself to be a puppet of ZOG and the Rothschilds. Do you really think they'd let him win the presidency if he really was an outsider like he pretends to be?
As much as /pol/ wants to pretend they're so redpilled and can see through the ZOG, they're being played by them just as much Antifa is being played by Soros. They may not receive financial support, but they have been misdirected into supporting racial tribalism and blame everyone who isn't one of them for all the bad shit in the world instead of the pseudoeconomic policies and systems that drive people to crime, conflict and violence. And if you turn the tables on them and point out all the stupid things white people did, and how their supposed master race got duped, domesticated and divided by an outside force, they go into conniptions and accuse you of being a kike.
No.65554
>>65519
>I'm not a /pol/tard. Jews have a lot of advantages over whites, especially in the things you mentioned. Regardless of your views on Israel, they've definitely created a strong society in a very short amount of time. Their faults are typically not the kind that destroy societies.
Alright, fair.
>they're so fiercely tied to their ingroup, and are very often leftists
If you live in the U.S., then going by polls and the existence of Chinatowns you should have more of an issue with Asians than Jews, yeah?
>>65522
>Some believe in Jewish nepotism.
>Regardless of whether they 'deserve' to control society, I certainly don't want them to, because they have their own agendas and survival strategies (destroying the host society from within)
Again, this is exactly the kind of arguments that are being used to justify attacking white people in Africa.
>>65533
You're defending the domestic policies of Zimbabwe. But hey, at least you're logically consistent. I have to give you credit for at least standing your ground.
No.65555
>>65516
>Academics love to invent reasons for this that blame external factors, but they are drawing conclusions before they look for evidence.
as opposed to your epistemic clarity, lmao.
>Do you think it is sustainable for our way of life to continue to import people from the worst places in the world, people who do not respect even the most basic societal norms or laws?
They'd stop entering en masse if their countries stopped getting bombed to shit.
>>65519
If they were predominantly leftist, Israel wouldn't be in the position it is right now.
No.65556
>>65537
Holy shit, another human being that can entertain the Jewish conspiracy theories of /pol/ without plunging headfirst into rabid antisemitism. The way you put it all into words was just about flawless too - are you sure you're not the second coming of Jesus m8?
As a regular on /fringe/, I'd say that them being Jewish has a little bit to do with it, but if you care enough to look into that yourself, you'd still understand that it's no reason to demonize the entire Jewish race or every person carrying their lineage.
To go off of what you said though, I almost feel like all this alt-right craziness and Nazi/Fascist LARPing - or really any major expression of antisemitism that makes it in the press - is being manufactured by (((them))) so that it's basically impossible to have a smart, healthy discussion about these theories because everyone will just think you're a conspiracy nut or a racist asshole.
It's also my personal belief that this Jewish elite values ethnic purity as a means of maintaining their power, and really only care about those in their ingroup who go to great lengths to preserve their heritage and stay in power. I don't think they have the interests of the greater Jewish population (those who have married/interbred/assimilated into Western society) at heart, and would use them as cattle just like they do the rest of us. But Mr. Rosenberg down the street is not out to undermine your sacred Western values.
As for them trying to undermine organically developed European culture/values, if they're doing it to the West, they're probably doing it everywhere else and to every other group. But I don't see any Asian or African tribalists rising up to (((reclaim their birthright))), nor do I see any of these White nationalists arguing the that all world cultures are in danger of being eradicated by Jewish corporate/political interests toward the end of creating a consumer state or a one-world government. And there's probably a reason for that.
No.65557
>>65556
>As a regular on /fringe/
Post Etheric Body or GTFO
No.65558
>>65480
4chan and 8chan are to blame
No.65574
>>65480
>I remember racism being a non-issue
Literally never. People have always been "racist" and they will always be "racist". If you refuse to recognize that niggers, sandniggers, chinks, kikes, gooks and spics aren't white then you're in for a world of hurt when you try to reconcile their behavior. Of course not every single Basketball American is a murderer but these are simply deviations from the norm. In general those North-American Pavement Apes are criminals with a distaste for Whites.
Please, do pretend it's all environment though. Why don't you also pretend that gender is all environment and how you're raised too. You can raise men as if they were women, and darkies as if they were white. Surely nothing bad will happen in either case, surely.
>hurf durf alt right everyone is dumb but me!
You're disgusting.
No.65575
>>65526
>>65554
I don't see how white people were corrupting Zimbabwean society by farming. I do see how Jews are / have been corrupting American society.
No.65576
>>65537
>>65556
>it's only a tiny band of Jews at the top
>niggers just kill and rape people because of poverty
Now these are some serious blue-pills which are fairly easy to debunk. Jews are extremely left wing and extremely rich. Soros just represents the most extreme version of the archetype.
Of course, there are religious Jews as well, but they present their own problems.
No.65584
>>65574
>People who don't share the same genetics as people of my exact phenotype are not humans!
>Hey, look how many racial slurs I know!
>M-muh redpill!
No.65585
>>65576
Did you control for demographics, too? Because seeing as jews tend to belong to the urban upper middle class, it's no surprise that they tend to be more left-wing, and there's no reason to bring up genetics to explain their political behavior.
No.65586
>>65585
Actually it IS a surprise that the wealthiest group in America skews 80% left wing
No.65588
>>65584
He said
1. Non-whites aren't white
2. Races and genders have different inherent tendencies; there is no blank slate
No.65597
>>65586
And this statistic did not control for skin color. If we take out the blacks, who don't earn much and absolutely love the democrats, does the graph still look as dramatic? What if we take out the women? Afterwards, does this trend still persist when we control for factors like age, education, environment (urban vs rural), or profession?
>>65588
I know his type. Their primary aim is to put other races down, they just doublecheck how far they can go. They don't care about serious scientific inquiry; they can neither interpret statistics nor respond on anything but an emotional level. Hence, their thesis is not simply that "races have inherent tendencies", it's that other races are inferior or even worthless.
No.65602
>>65597
>you control for 99 million billion factors before I will believe this!!
Okay, there is no use arguing with you.
I just think it's really funny how you're first attempt failed so much.
>YEAH BUT JEWS ARE RICH AND RICH PEOPLE VOTE DEMOCRAT
>(exact opposite is the truth)
>YEAH BUT UH THEY LIVE IN CITIES!!!!1
No.65610
Education wouldn't seem to account for it either.
There is a 'Jew effect' that makes you hardwired to be a radical liberal
No.65615
>>65602
>you control for 99 million billion factors before I will believe this!!
That's not a big hurdle, it's what you're supposed to do whenever you work with statistics. It's why I don't like crunching numbers, because controlling for every variable is annoying and in the end, you still don't necessarily have results that are certain, but it's absolutely what you have to do when you want to be scientific.
Also, reminder:
>>65585
>urban upper middle clas
>urban
>urban
>urban
Notice that word, urban? I already mentioned that the fact they live in cities was essential. That's where you get into contact with the Love Parade, protests for a free Kurdistan, and the nice man working at the bakery who's black and gay and still just a human being like you and I. And when you or your kids go to school, you do it in a class where only half the kids even speak the official language and you must learn how to bake muffins that the hindu, muslim and jewish classmates can eat.
>>65610
See, that's how you do it. Controlling for intervening variables isn't magic. These restults are also pretty interesting. Didn't expect Trump to fare so well in suburbs and colleges.
No.65618
>>65610
>There is a 'Jew effect' that makes you hardwired to be a radical liberal
Honestly, I'm open for that. I don't think it's genetically determined or the result of every Jew being part of a conspiracy, but I do think their culture and history tends to make them cosmopolitan, drawn towards a rhetoric of tolerance, afraid of any kind of martial rhetoric, and at least indifferent to tradition, if not hostile to it.
No.65622
>>65480
>niggers
>men
>muh skin colour
This old, tired argument again? Kill yourself, and do us a fucking favor.
>>http://archive.is/wKXHO
No.65635
>Notice that word, urban? I already mentioned that the fact they live in cities was essential. That's where you get into contact with the Love Parade, protests for a free Kurdistan, and the nice man working at the bakery who's black and gay and still just a human being like you and I. And when you or your kids go to school, you do it in a class where only half the kids even speak the official language and you must learn how to bake muffins that the hindu, muslim and jewish classmates can eat.
I can't find how urban white voters voted compared to rural voters. Anyway if this effect exists, is it strong enough to explain why 80% of them voted Democrat despite immense wealth?
>Honestly, I'm open for that. I don't think it's genetically determined or the result of every Jew being part of a conspiracy, but I do think their culture and history tends to make them cosmopolitan, drawn towards a rhetoric of tolerance, afraid of any kind of martial rhetoric, and at least indifferent to tradition, if not hostile to it.
Yes, but don't think this all started with the Holocaust. It has to do with the fundamental existence of the Jew in a non-Jewish society.
No.65638
>>65635
>>65615
Meant to respond and post this.
No.65649
I'm out, but I hope someone else can write good replies for you. This discussion got pretty interesting in the end, I gotta say. Goodnight!
No.65653
At this rate, we might as well have a "Jewish Question" thread on /liberty/.
No.65654
since there are too many opinions to respond to individually to tell you why I dont like them I am just going to state my own opinions on race as it relates to liberty
people should be free to discriminate or not however they wish, I think in some cases it would be foolish, and in some it would be foolish not to, but generally as long as you dont burn any bridges you are probably behaving smartly
racial statistics, while true in a statistical sense, CANNOT tell you all you need to know about a person, he could be atypical
certain groups of people that are currently considered human are different enough that they are almost alien, I still think they should have all the same rights, and would even extend these same rights to certain animals like crows, octopi, cuttlefish out of respect for their very high intelligence compared to the rest of the animal kingdom
No.65655
>>65654
Crow makes for some good eating though.
No.65667
>>65666
>saves the thumbnail
No.65668
>We were way beyond that archaic shit.
It's not going to seem archaic when it's the cause of the mob that lynches you in the race war, the only thing that changed is you dumbfuck white westerners in your gated communities somehow were stupid enough to think you changed how people have thought for hundreds of thousands of years overnight
racial tension will never go away as long as race exists. Now do me a commie and cry about how human nature isn't real even though it keeps slapping you in the face with it's massive cock.
No.65671
>>65576
"81% of violent criminals are black" ≠ "81% of blacks are violent criminals"
Wrap your head around that one for a couple of days
>>65615
>the nice man working at the bakery who's black and gay and still just a human being like you and I
Yes, these people exist in the city and elsewhere, and yes, they are in fact human beings. If they're productive members of society that aren't hurting anybody, then what exactly is the problem here?
>>65668
>niggers are dumb violent savages
>jews are filthy lying snakes
>whites are inherently shining beacons of intellect and virtue
Whatever you say bud
No.65678
>>65671
>"81% of violent criminals are black" ≠ "81% of blacks are violent criminals"
>Wrap your head around that one for a couple of days
So I correct your fallacious claim that poverty explains black rape and murder, and now you accuse me of saying 81% of blacks are violent criminals?
Where did you get the idea I had said this?
>Yes, these people exist in the city and elsewhere, and yes, they are in fact human beings. If they're productive members of society that aren't hurting anybody, then what exactly is the problem here?
>well what about someone that isn't hurting anyone how is he hurting anyone xD checkmate racists
Nobody has said that literally every black person is hurting someone literally every moment of the day. That doesn't need to be true to judge blacks at a group level.
>Whatever you say bud
There is plenty of evidence for the general drift of the thing.
No.65679
>>65480
90% of shitskins are shit. That's reality. Read the bell curve. Look at crime and poverty statistics.
No.65693
Sorry to be the idiot in this conversation, but what is the end goal in this conversation? Are we arguing whether blacks and Jews should be segegrated or that there should be no miscegenation or outright genocide or what? What the hell is even the question that is being argued again?
No.65698
>>65693
Whether Nazis are correct about the nature of the African and the Jew. I don't think people are discussing 'what should be done', since libertarians will always say 'nothing'.
No.65703
>>65678
>pseudoeconomic policies and systems that drive people to crime, conflict and violence
Not even my post (this is "small band of Jews" guy here), but this isn't even saying poverty explains black violent crime, because it's not. It's big government keeping these people dependent on benefits and welfare programs after systemically excluding them from society for so long, and continuing to do so to some extent. Nobody is saying that this is an excuse or a "free pass" for turning to crime to break that dependency, or that there's no way out for those who work hard enough, but it explains why people make those choices better than "niggers are dumb deal with it"
>blacks are predisposed to being violent criminals just because they're black and that's all there is to it, even if the majority of blacks don't act in such a manner
Whatever you say bud. Hope you have fun at your (((day job))) today.
>>65693
>>65698
The original point of this thread was to discuss how the left and right approach racial questions, esp. in today's heated climate. Then /pol/ came in and made it about the Jewish Question and their pre-determined conclusions about race and started shitting it up like they do with everything they touch. /pol/ and their views are welcome here given that this is a libertarian boards, but at this point they're basically the kid who invites himself to the party and ruins it for everyone else.
No.65704
Because the (((government))) benefits from people squabbling amongst themselves over irrelevant shit. Tactics include stirring up ethnic tensions or -if the society is homogenous- creating ethnic tensions with multiculturalism. They also do shit like convince people that "left wing" and "right wing" are a thing so people have more nonsense to squabble over and make nationalists and 2A supporters ally with warmongers and fight against environmentalists and 1A supporters who allied with communists while libertarians circlejerk to fart porn because they are enlightened enough to be right in the middle of this definition-less scale.
/snideness
The cultural marxists wish to destroy society with identity politics, as always.
The "leftists" are those that have fallen victim to both media/CIA D&C and/or marxist poison. They are either well-meaning normies barking up the wrong tree ("Cops are bad because they are racist and hate black people.") or actual marxists ("We need less whites and more PoCs") In the former case they serve to distract themselves and others from the fact that the government hates everybody equally and in the latter case they serve to distract racists and otherwise uninvolved people, on top of destroying society, crippling the middle class etcetera.
The "rightists" are largely the intended reaction of the above fuckery. They get fucked over, insulted, taxed and lied to, and they see the supposed benefactors acting like uncivilized morons so they get pissed and direct their energies against niggers and "leftists" instead of those that actually behind the drama. Even when this isn't keikaku it is a natural and logical response to danger for people to find common ground for which to build alliances so to strengthen ties there is going to be more attention to differences between "us" "them" ("Our people's society has been strong, moral and responsible for great technological advancement. Their people destroyed their chances for a stable, advanced society when it was handed to them on a silver platter.") Nationalists often come to the conclusion of ethnonationalism, or are ethnonationalists by defacto so threats against their national identity and stability are often met with a response that relates to ethnicity.
No.65708
>>65671
He didn't say any of that you silly goose. He said that people will always prefer those of their own tribe and regard other tribes as rivals, meaning that ethnic tensions and thus racism will always exist. Niggers could act like germans and jews could act like Jesus Christ, but they would still be regarded as rivals by their respective out-groups.
No.65709
>>65480
Let my explain why I'm "obsessed" about the race.
Wherever there are differences, there will be people who will exploit these differences to destabilize the society. It's not just about the race but also about the religion and the nationality to the lesser degree.
Wherever there is an underperforming minority, there will be a demagogue convincing said minority that their failures are caused by the majority.
Modern left has mastered manipulating the minorities and setting them against the majority. There's also potential for foreign nations to influence the minority to go against majority.
Now would it be possible to erase racism and build a peaceful and cohesive multi-racial society? Maybe but it hasn't worked so far. So why should we build a multi-racial society when we can choose to stay homogeneous (my country has not been infected with "diversity" virus yet)?
Of course, some differences are unavoidable and you have to live if it but pushing "diversity" as a good thing is bullshit.
No.65710
>>65703
>. It's big government keeping these people dependent on benefits and welfare programs after systemically excluding them from society for so long, and continuing to do so to some extent.
So you are now inventing reasons welfare dependence doesn't correlate with poverty, or what? Poor whites should also be just as dependent on welfare. Yet they don't commit as much crime.
>blacks are predisposed to being violent criminals just because they're black and that's all there is to it, even if the majority of blacks don't act in such a manner
I don't know if you actually believe what you're saying, or if you're just dishonest and trying to 'win' through aimless rhetoric.
They don't all need to be criminals for their to be predisposition for blacks become criminals. The predisposition may exist even though it doesn't reach the point a majority are committing violent crimes.
No.65718
I didn't want to make a argument so I just made this in a few minutes.
I can tell someone is going to go "but it was made in MS Paint" and yes that's true but also you care more about the image quality than the content in it which means you're probably not interested in having a argument in first place.
In that case, just voluntarily don't reply.
No.65721
>>65480
>Why is both the left and the 'alt-right' so fucking obsessed about skin color?
Only in USA. And that's because USA has no culture so people LARP as europeans and other LARP as african kangz
No.65757
Ethnic divisions are inevitable in most multicultural societies unless they're ruled with an iron fist like Singapore. The Western Left is also wracked with guilt over slavery, colonialism, Nazism, and collaboration with Nazism, and is determined to atone as hard as humanly possible for it, possibly to the extent of destroying their societies. The Holocaust replaced Christianity and racism replaced Original Sin.
The alt-right is just a response to this atonement-through-diversity, as the alt-right eventually discovered that even if they weren't interested in identity politics, identity politics was interested in them.
No.65816
>>65703
Why is Ron Paul's face there? He's not a white nationalist.
>>65757
Do you think there's such a thing as natural diversity and forced diversity? Like when a bunch of people immigrate to a country and get a melting pot but are honest about racial differences and joke about it compared to one where that isn't allowed?
No.65826
>>65816
The pic comes from fucking RevLeft, to them everything to the right of Mao is Literally Hitler.
No.65830
>>65816
Well it is only a Ron Paul mask. /pol/ used to absolutely love The Doctor back in the day so there was a good deal of Ron Paul ideology/memes mixing around with all the WN stuff.
No.65841
>>65757
Singapore is much more homogenous than most white countries. If it seems like it works in any way or form, it's because a single race is still an unshakable majority.
No.65848
>>65517
>>65519
>>65533
http://www.ronunz.org/2012/11/28/the-myth-of-american-meritocracy/
It's not like they have an even distribution of IQ to high-level positions. It's vastly out of proportion. That wouldn't be so bad if this was 1893, but the discrimination laws that were written by Jews are being selectively enforced for their benefit. You can't pretend we have liberty when colleges and employers are legally obligated to seek out non-whites or jews regardless of ability. The entire reason we have laws favoring minorities over the majority is because Jews are a minority and they acted to get the law changed in their favor.
>>65555
You're totally right, America needs to stop bombing Mexico ASAP!!!
>>65526
It's not Zimbabwe, it's Rhodesia. It was founded by white settlers hundreds of years ago, who were there long before the Zulu arrived. The actual natives, the San bushmen, prefer Boer over Zulu because they're not murderous psychopaths. And it certainly wasn't the Zulus that managed to kick out the Boers, it was international sanctions that crashed their economy while communists funded the Zulu, who then used that power to kick them out. The starving Zulu now are just a weapon that's lost its usefulness and has been left to rust.
No.65857
>>65841
singapore in de iure multinational
No.65903
>>65857
Any country can call themselves multinational de jure. It's just a gimmick for singapore.
No.65973
No.66012
>>65638
If you're looking at a graph dating back to the 50's, white flight explains the strong tilt far better than any other cause.
No.66015
>>66012
Okay, but the point was city dwellers weren't always liberal, even though they always rubbed shoulders with diverse types of people
No.67178
>>65480
>feeling pride because your ancestors were slaves