No.64413
As I am sure you are all aware, antifa and the alt right have been enjoying widespread increases in power popularity thanks to the liberal media and their penchant for sensationalization. It is of my opinion that we lucky few rest at the cusp of a new era, and possibly the dankest global conflict since world war 2. It is also of my opinion with the rise of both communism and fascism, it is now time for libertarianism to take center stage, lest we be thrown by the wayside for yet another historical cycle. It is time for the rise of alt liberty. Ayn Rand once said libertarians were just objectivists without fangs. Let's prove that bitch wrong and march in the streets.
No.64420
>>64413
What makes you think their activism is productive?
No.64421
You can thank atheism for the rise of extremist leftism and alt-retards.
Libertarians/Conservatives laid their foundation on Christianity and the Bible. Once the west stops believing in those things, extremist nihilism/socialism becomes more common.
If we want to take our country back, we need more people like Ben Shapiro, instilling morals, values and ethics. People taking responsibility for themselves, etc.
If we don't, our children will get lost in a sea of identity politics garbage.
No.64427
>>64421
Look at this retard and laugh
No.64442
>>64427
He has a reasonable point though.
No.64471
>>64442
Nihilism occurred precisely because of christianity.
No.64472
>>64421
we cannot go back, not only will it get more rejected the more time passes, even if you manage to put christianity back on the center of people's lives it couldn't possibly last with how increasingly fast things change
No.64474
>>64427
But that's literally what Nietzsche predicted, god dies but we have no culture to back it up so we become retarded nihilists.
The only retard I have to laugh at is you
No.64476
>>64474
The messianic approach of Christianity made nihilism an inevitably. It was not the abandonment of Christianity that doomed Europe to nihilism, but rather its adoption in the first place.
No.64482
>>64472
Truth cannot be outdated.
If tomorrow everyone decided that grass is not green, that's not going to change the fact grass is green.
No.64483
>>64476
How? That doesn't make any sense.
No.64484
>>64472
the Bible told us that people would reject the truth during the end times.
it's called "the great falling away" and its a neccesary step before the coming of the Antichrist.
No.64492
>>64483
Christian morality and messianic salvation served as a response to the apparent brutality and meaninglessness of everyday life. As this ediface crumbled with the increasing apparance that such salvation through faith would not arrive, it was replaced with nihilism.
No.64503
>>64492
Christian morality and messianic salvation is not a "response" to anything. It's the answer to how you get saved in a fallen and sinful world.
You don't even seem to grasp the very basic fundamentals of Christianity. It's not a "tool" to be used to by men, it is the truth by which to live.
The brutality and evil in the world is because of Adam's fall. Ever since then, God promised a savior. That savior came, died for your sins and is the only way to eternal life.
No.64504
>>64503
The irony of what you just said is palpable.
No.64505
>>64504
You're the one not understanding what Christianity is.
>dude let me tell you about a religion i know nothing about
No.64506
>>64505
Just ignore him.
He's one of those retards that bought into the German higher criticism meme. He looks scoffingly at scripture. He's one of those edgy mythicists.
No.64511
>>64506
yes, we seem to have a lot of those atheist pseudo-intellectuals these days.
they look at history through evolution-goggles so they automatically assume ancients were stupid. good thing monkey-to-man evolution is a debunked myth, so atheists will always be wrong and christians will always be correct
No.64512
>>64511
It's a product of our postmodern cultural marxist society.
One of their key subversions was always to destroy Christianity and remove God from people's minds.
No.64513
>>64506
>>64511
>>64505
So, samefagging aside, I was raised Catholic. I am well aware of the practicional novelties of the church, and how certain people might find a therapeutic benefit in that. The irony that I was trying to illustrate was that you ascribe all negative traits of man to some seminal ahistorical occurrence, thus removing the agency from all human acts. Even if you try to obscure this with the idea of divinely inspired free will, you still run into a contradiction regarding negative human actions. Can you really not see the nihilism buried within that? Btw I'm addressing this on your terms regarding Christianity ONLY and not other religions. If I really wanted to go on an atheist screed, I would start by attacking the notion of supernaturality.
No.64515
>>64506
Btw scripture is shit. If you can't deduce the normative application of your ideology from first principle, then it is doomed to contradiction and decay when put into practice.
No.64521
>>64513
>I was raised [false denomination] therefore that makes lying OK!
lol
No.64523
>>64515
The Bible is historical and factual.
>>64515
Ever heard of the United States?
Ever heard of ancient Israel?
Ever heard of the Reformation?
Whenever the Bible is held in high regard - the country flourishes and becomes great. See England in the dawn of the 16th century, when it broke away from Rome and puritans created the KJV.
No.64524
>>64521
>>64523
Stop replying to him you retards. He believes in the German higher criticism and postmodern methods of deconstruction, it's like talking to a wall.
No.64526
>>64524
You're right. No better than a SJW who insists that gender is a "social construct" and won't listen to anything else.
No.64527
>>64511
>so they automatically assume ancients were stupid.
Most people are stupid. Probably more so back then given the Flynn effect.
No.64530
>>64527
>Ancients built gigantic structures that we can't replicate today with modern technology
>Ancients had more knowledge of God than people do today
Genetically, spirituality and morally we are getting worse and worse. Before the Flood people lived up to be hundreds of years old. Now we barely reach 90.
No.64534
>>64521
>>64523
>>64524
>>64524
>>64526
>>64527
>>64530
Stop fellating yourself anytime. It wasn't cute in the other thread, either.
No.64538
>>64534
Not an argument.
Thanks for admitting defeat, noble of you.
No.64547
>>64530
>Before the Flood
What if libertarian flag and christians here are just both false flag projects to make everyone on /liberty/ look dumb?
I mean, it would put me at ease.
No.64549
>>64547
Still not an argument.
No.64550
>>64547
Why do you deny historical events?
Back to /leftypol/. In here we use facts, not feelings.
No.64554
>>64550
he's a fedora lord. ignores all the overwhelming evidence that points towards a global flood
he denies science, logic and reason when it doesn't fit his darwinian monkey religion
No.64556
No.64558
>>64547
I'm not bullshitting. The other guy is using the same sort of obsequious self-congratulatory goonposting that you see on /tv/, though. If he was an actual died-in-the-wool creationist, he would probably try Gish-galloping instead of having this self-aggrandizing goon attitude despite being on a board that is largely unconcerned with arguments for or against religion in the first place.
No.64559
>>64558
>>64547
Samefag
Friendly reminder to report & ignore darwintards.
No.64560
>>64559
Just because he's stupid doesn't mean we should report him.. This is /liberty/.
You can say whatever you want without censorship, including fedora posting. And we're free to laugh at him.
No.64561
>>64560
Good point. I should probably stop giving her attention, she feeds off of it. Wish this board had IDs, that would make filtering evolutionists much easier.
No.64564
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>thread quickly devolves into christcuck shitposting
Way to go you fucking faggots.
>>64413
While the rise of authoritarianism is a concern, both fascism and communism both have a serious weakness in that they rely on centralised power structures fuelled by a very weak link. There is a major consequence of revolt and destruction of society (which for first world countries is very easy to achieve if you have the balls) which matters to authoritarians but doesn't to liberty minded individuals, see vid related, you will know it when you see it.
No.64576
>>64549
>>64550
>>64554
>>64558
>>64559
>See that someone doesn't like you derailing the thread because of religion
>Make multiple posts with your friends accusing him of being the opposing side while flaunting about how you use facts and logic
No.64577
>>64549
>>64550
>>64554
>>64559
>>64560
>>64561
But where are your proofs?
>inb4 everywhere, go read a book
No.64591
>>64577
Proof of what? Name a subject.
No.64597
>>64591
The worldwide flood that I believe all of those posts directly or indirectly asserted happened.