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Ya'll need Mises.

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 No.102716

I remember playing this game when it came out nearly two decades ago now. When I first played it, I did not really understand the plot or what was going on. It laid on a shelf for decades, and recently, things calmed down in my life, and I've had some time. So, I went back to play it again.

Jesus H Christ, why didn't I listen to any of this decades ago? WHY DIDN'T I LISTEN?! WHY DO I NOT REMEMBER ANY OF THIS?! Was I really so stupid that when someone was directly telling me the truth about what was going on that I just laughed it off as "simulation, lol?" This is so spot-on it's insane. I'm sure this has been talked about to death, but dear lord, this is so fucking prescient it makes me think that Kojima really was outright telling the truth here, or that it's at least low-level predictive programming.

Anyways, I'm going to play through this game and let Solidus win this time. If that ends the game with a bad end. Fine. I'll shut the console off and have my closure.

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 No.102727

>>102716

I never owned it as a kid but finally played it a few years ago. It's profound af. Too bad Kojima won't make proper pc ports

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 No.102731

>>102716

genes can be used to infer about history of humans, even on individual level (methylation patterns- epigenetics)

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 No.102777

Well, I did it. Very end and I let Solidus win. Fuck the Patriots. I can only hope Solidus managed to do it.

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 No.102778

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Finished it for the first time a year ago, still my favorite so far (currently working through MGS4). I remember hearing Solidus before the harrier fight and then thinking "wait, why are we trying to stop this guy". Kind of a mix of /doomer/ and /liberty/ imo. Fuck Solid and Naked Snake, we need a spinoff where you play as Solidus.

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 No.102783

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>>102716

I've finished this game at least 20 times when I first got it, including all the difficulty levels. This game was so well made that I didn't see any other game I played the same way again, I would always be skeptical and judge them based on MGS2's artistic standard..

I really think that Kojima might be a crypto-libertarian since so much of what he makes fits with the libertarian worldview, especially in MGS2.

>>102777

How do you let Solidus win? Is there a secret ending I don't know of?

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 No.102784

>>102783

>How do you let Solidus win? Is there a secret ending I don't know of?

Not really, it's more of a personal thing. At the very end during the last fight with Solidus, I just let him win, and then when the "game over screen" came up, I quit as a giant "Fuck you" to having to have a "predetermined outcome."

>>102778

I haven't even gotten to MGS3,4, etc..

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 No.102803

>>102716

One thing that really annoys me about this game is that everyone on all sides of the political landscape praise it for being so prophetic, yet they are all guilty of doing the exact thing the game was warning against (especially left wingers)

No one hardly ever challanges their ideas, they just take up some contrived political take as a replacement for a personality and huddle around like minded people in their own bubbles and just keep blowing smoke up each others asses which only makes them worse and worse. To be a truly healthy person, you need to play devils advocate and realize you dont really know shit and realize you can learn different things from different people. Or in other words, just be open minded, which is something every jackass says but very few practice, again, mostly leftist.

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 No.102811

>>102803

Challenge your perception of capitalism then

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 No.102824

>>102811

/liberty/ is already /leftypol/'s shitposting toilet.

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 No.102825

>>102811

I do. I dont worship capitalism as some god. people who view economic systems as such are stupid.

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>>102824

/liberty/ is my shitposting toilet.

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