/liberty/ - Liberty

I wouldn't call myself a white supremacist. That implies I want whites to rule over the rest of the world, which I certainly do not. Babysitting is a thankless and time-consuming job with no tangible benefit. I do prefer to be around other white people, not because of "white nationalism" or any other meme ideology, but because of biology. I have an in-group preference and I see nothing wrong with exercising it.

>who don't like to pay taxes, not even to help the poor white people.

No one likes to pay taxes. Not even the goodest of good goy statists pays more than a single cent over the minimum they have to pay to not be jailed for tax evasion. We're simply cognizant of the fact that taxes aren't good for anything. The services for which taxation pays are categorically inferior to anything which the market may produce. And no, I don't particularly care for giving parasites more nutrients to suck away. If you really want to help the poor, the best way to do so is eliminate as many barriers in the market as possible. This both allows the capable among the poor to start small businesses and rise beyond their means, while also improving the lot of those who remain poor, by lowering prices and increasing their standard of living. The poorest bracket in the United States today has access to more luxuries and a higher quality of life than Rockefeller did in his heyday, thanks entirely to market forces. Anyone whose life has been drastically improved, but still complains that someone else's life happens to have improved more, is just using righteousness to mask their sense of envy. Such people deserve only scorn. I really don't give a shit about Austin Petersen's virtue-signaling, the Libertarian Party are a bunch of impotent faggots and can be safely ignored.

>The Hoppe memes betray your authoritarianism.

What a low-IQ thing to say.

>ban abortion, drugs, workers rights and homosexuality

First, you realize if you start from the position that the fetus is alive, there's nothing remotely "fascist" about being against abortion, right? And no one is advocating for the rest of your list of degeneracy to be banned; we don't need to. Market forces will discourage these behaviors all on their own. You want to be a crack addict? More power to you–but your insurance rates will be sky-high (assuming you can find coverage at all), no one will want to hire you, no one will rent to you, and chances are no restaurant or shopowner will let you into their establishment, either. You want to be a bug-chasing faggot? Again, good luck with that without free clinics for your HIV tests, Medicare buying your AIDS medicine, your insurance rates being exorbitantly high on account of your risky lifestyle, and no neighborhood with children allowing you to purchase property there. And of course, it should go without saying that there's nothing "fascist" about banning this behavior on your private property, or about private property owners jointly participating in a blacklist system which forbids undesirables from trespassing on their property. These degenerate behaviors wouldn't even be eliminated completely, chances are all the criminals, addicts, and sodomites will just be concentrated in slum neighborhoods, nice and far away from civilized men, where they can be as degenerate as they want. As for "worker's rights," there's nothing stopping anyone from forming a union. Just as there's nothing stopping businessowners from firing uppity workers and hiring alternatives. The price system is a far more effective way of determining efficient wages, there's a reason unions are unable to persist without government protection of them.

This forum is run by broken leftist liars who lack faith in their ideology so absolutely they can only think to advance it by smearing someone else’s. They’re not libertarian fascists, they’re just… undignified and confused. Pity this forum, but don’t expect actual libertarian thought. It’s as fake as /pol/ and /leftypol/.

People only use these forums to perform for those who laugh at them. Many of the users tell themselves they’re the ones laughing, but if they really had any power they’d have power enough to exert honesty and withstand it.

Fundamentally, happy people aren’t obsessed with laughing, but traumatized people who aren’t coping well get that way. Sociopaths claim to be the happiest people in the world and prove it by laughing, but it’s usually trauma that makes a sociopath. It’s just the more superficially self-empowered form of depression.

There’s trauma all up the much-vaunted ladder of civilization. People don’t see it in themselves. It’s often for the better that they don’t (more productive), but when empathy starts to drain off it becomes a matter of primary concern. Abusive people tend, I believe, to be the most profoundly unhappy people on the planet, dwelling in a deep pit labeled “too miserable to die of suicide”, which is a real phenomenon: suicide rates rise in spring because springtime makes people happier. It brings a few of the maximally miserable people up to the level where they can off themselves.

As grotesque a speculation as this is, I think this may contribute to the long-term gains in psychological health experienced by beautiful areas, and maybe even to the preference for ugly environments sometimes expressed by people who are absolutely certain they’re happy as they are. The beautiful environment makes people happier, which makes some of the most perfect miseries happy enough to recognize that their own actual baseline of happiness is kinda low. That I would speculate creates either suicide potentials in people otherwise immune to them, or else it creates cognitive dissonance and drives a will-to-live preference for ugly spaces.

One of the materialistic services that churches provide is a stubbornly beautified environment to which people subject themselves every week. I believe this raises mood status for mentally healthy and kind individuals while having an apparent discouragement effect on mentally unhealthy and unkind people. This discouragement is a kind of primitive filter which may also induce a kind of passive purge and/or redemption effect by making people question their life choices - all before any word of sermon or hymn. I would posit that the janitor’s devotion may matter more than the priest’s, being outclassed only by the devotion of the building’s architects and engineers.

>>101892

> want to ban abortion, drugs, workers rights and homosexuality

*in our private covenant communities

>>101892

> white supremacists who don't like to pay taxes, not even to help the poor white people

I would have zero problems in paying taxes and forcing other people to pay, if it was possible to help the poor and the ill this way. After having spent my whole life in the default "just help the poor with the rich money"-mode, I ended up by pure chance studying economics and learning why this way of solving the problem is the inefficient and often destroys the very people it's trying to help.

>ban abortion, drugs, workers rights and homosexuality

Yeah, you don't understand what you're talking about

Not an argument

>>101892

>worker's """""""rights""""""""

>>101892

Wait a minute… It took you A COUPLE OF MONTHS to figure this out? … Low IQ indeed.