/liberty/ - Liberty

Intellectual property is gay

>>100711

but when you bought the seeds you agreed not to propagate

>>100712

Contracts can't alienate the will; any breach of contract which does not result in theft is not enforceable. At best, the company that sold you the seeds can refuse to do business with you in the future, and you forfeit whatever security deposit you made with them upon breaking the contract (e.g., "in addition to the price of the seeds, you will give us 100 McBitcoins. If you do not breach the contract for the whole of the planting season your deposit will be returned at that time).

>>100713

they can also write in the contract that if you break it then you must pay 10 bitcoins

>>100712

No, you just said whatever words necessary to make the bastards hand over those seeds you just bought. It's like clicking "I Agree" on the EULA for a video game - nobody reads the damn things, nobody cares about the damn things, they're unenforceable, and people just take the quickest route to make it go away and then they forget about it. Information is not scarce, and attempts to make information scarce have always ended in failure (and will continue to end in failure, because the idea is just that ludicrous). If I buy your seeds, they become my seeds, and then I can do what I want with them. That's how buying stuff works. Industries have had almost six hundred years since the invention of the printing press to adapt their way of thinking to a world where only material objects have scarcity, but they refuse to do so because they all want to go back to the time when it was possible to jealously hoard an idea and actually hope to succeed. They keep trying, they keep failing, and they keep looking ridiculous because of it.

>>100721

He's saying that's irrelevant because it's unenforceable. At that point it's too late to get your 10 McBitcoins. You may say "No, because they have goons" but at that point nothing matters because goons.

>>100775

so if i rent someone a bike and he agreed to give it back to me the next day then it is unenforceable so irrelevant and the bike is his?

>>100776

That is a breach of contract which results in theft, and is therefore enforceable. You would have a right to your bike back, and could bring this claim to court. What you can't do is say, "I sell you this bike, but if you paint it red I will take it back" in a contract and expect enforcement, because no theft has occurred.