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There's no discharge in the war!

File: 66edfe99c317a13⋯.jpg (159.17 KB, 816x459, 16:9, technicalv1.jpg)

387ac7  No.675839

Technical Thread I Guess

Alright /k/unts, so I acquired a belt fed semi auto to supplement my RPK as a support weapon. I was wondering what you fags thought would be the best setup for a technical. First pic related shows my incredibly basic technical setup. Standard UK59 mount in AA configuration in the bed with sandbags to stop recoil from moving the gun back. Benefits are that it has a 360 degree free hand traverse range and 110 degree free hand elevation range. Downsides are that it takes up the whole bed, leaving little room for other guys in the back and its not a quick detach mount, so I would have to expose myself to fire to dismount the gun.

My plan involves attaching a ladder rack or tube frame (both front and back) to the truck and then having the UK facing forwards and the RPK facing rearwards. The traverse and elevation range would be harmed but there would be more room for men, since the center of the bed is now freed. There would also be no need for sand bags to stop the recoil as the rack wouldn't move like the mount does. Two or even three men could sit in the central area between the two gunners. Overall, what do you think I should do to improve the concept?

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a1dba2  No.675852

>and its not a quick detach mount, so I would have to expose myself to fire to dismount the gun.

Just make the whole pod arrangement flip up.

Move gun pod all the way forward. Three primitive tubes should be able to hold the main tube in place.

Front tubes are fixed, but still moveable, back tube can be removed, whole thing flips down.

Gunner is able to remove machine gun from setup and do stuff with it now in cover of the front engine.

Other idea would be to make the pod layout flatter.

Remove top.

Saw through wall, thereby connecting driver's cabin and bed, remove plastic cover under steering wheel. Let the driver lie down, coordinating the driving with the help of mirrors.

Gunpod can be moved down further, because no top or driver in the way.

And remove sidewalls for troop transport. Instead of max 6 guys you can drive up 12 mad lads.

Of course if you don't wanna remove sidewalls you can atleast add some cages on the outside for equipment transport.

Maybe just move the gunpod to the shotgun seat. Shooting simply through the front with the top still on or doing close quarters traversing with the sweaty driver next to you if the top is removed and driver moved down.

But you can do it with any car and it will limit the degree range significantly, so kinda takes the fun away.

How about letting the driver lay sideways, not only over the driver seat but also passegner seat. More space nicely used.

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387ac7  No.675907

File: 219329abf05fb4f⋯.jpg (118.18 KB, 816x459, 16:9, AAmountcloseup.jpg)

>>675852

Well I can actually have four men in the front cab. Two rear sets facing sidways and driver and passenger. Doors off, infantry should be able to mount and dismount easily enough. I think the bed is fine as it is. I only plan on transporting 8 max, 6 normally. Mount wise my plan was to simply cut off the top of another AA mount and attach it to the gun itself, allowing it to function as a quick detach. Pic related for a close up of the mount. At the same time, the RPK has a picatinny rail mount system so a standard pic rail QD mount would work. I know Marcolmar makes picatinny rail adapters for the UK.

>Maybe just move the gunpod to the shotgun seat.

DPV vibes. I would assume the rifleman in the passenger seat will be using a rifle. I want max traverse range on the MG, and it would lose traverse range as you said if it was moved up front.

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dd351b  No.675908

>>675907

Very nice!

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387ac7  No.675909

File: c41b7d845a4ccff⋯.png (427.25 KB, 438x546, 73:91, k_banner_final.png)

File: e9e9d2afc584e9a⋯.jpg (477.5 KB, 1164x655, 1164:655, hot_combloc_cousins.jpg)

File: 112815f9070911a⋯.jpg (465.67 KB, 655x1164, 655:1164, thicc.jpg)

Also here is a banner pic I made if the mods want to use it. Also a few general pics of the RPK/UK59 side by side.

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242f89  No.675910

File: 021e945075403dc⋯.jpeg (26.09 KB, 498x284, 249:142, serveimage (37).jpeg)

The mexicans know whats up

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387ac7  No.675913

>>675910

Yes, I'm basing my truck off the mexican military's and federale's trucks partially. I wish I knew who made or where to buy their bed rack.

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71d883  No.675915

>>675913

Make it yourself. Looks like standard run of the mill tube.

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107598  No.675976

>>675909

let them do some scissoring with their bipods

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35a631  No.675977

>>675976

3lewd5me

Also, do think think carrying them by their carry handles counts as hand-holding?

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b58ab8  No.675978

>>675913

Mexicans

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0ff81c  No.675991

File: 498edac81011049⋯.jpg (81.87 KB, 800x445, 160:89, technicals-in-Syria-800x44….jpg)

All depends on what you want out of it. If it's for some fantasy bullshit where you LARP, then keep on doing it they way you are. Now, if you're serious, then fuck any ideas you have about emulating a Mexican technical.

Technicals are quickly becoming the means of conveyance in 4th Generation Warfare, shit there was an entire conflict named after the technical. (see; "Toyota War") Mexican technicals are optimized to operate in a Law Enforcement environment, meaning they access to regular maintenance cycles, readily available access to spare parts, ease of access to POL, and are easily replaceable. If you plan on making your technical for use in any level of sustained combat, than you need to consider some factors;

What is the weight limitation for the frame/suspension? Carrying eight equipped men, in addition to ammo for your mounted systems…then that's a shit load of weight. HMMWV rolling into Iraq and Afghanistan saw serious damage to their frames and suspensions due to extensive weight place on them, which is what prompted various reinforcing and upgrades.

Do you need the tailgate up? Consider investing in some of the "upgrades" seen on technicals employed by SOF units in Syria back in 2016. If you want to build something, fabricate a bed extender (see pic)

Get your hands on another UK AA tripod, or at the least the upper part of the assembly and fabricate a mount base attached to a piece of plate you can bolt to the frame through the bed.

Also give thought to maintenance and repair of your technical. How are you going to sources spare parts, tools, POL, ect…

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fecd19  No.676007

>>675913

>he can’t weld

Sad.

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387ac7  No.676026

>>675991

>Mexican technicals are optimized to operate in a Law Enforcement environment, meaning they access to regular maintenance cycles, readily available access to spare parts, ease of access to POL, and are easily replaceable.

Fair point, but those parameters can be applicable to any US domestic truck stateside and they'll pass. Mine is a chevy colorado, so not as widespread as a silverado, but still a top fleet vehicle. Parts aren't going to be a problem. Neither will service, as the gas engine in my truck is based of the LGX/Z six cylinder architecture found in most GM six cylinder vehicles. The transmission is the only concern I have, but it has held up fine, as it is my daily.

>What is the weight limitation for the frame/suspension?

5000 pounds. Suspension is the limiting factor. Total weight including men and weapons works out to about ~2000 pounds.

>HMMWV rolling into Iraq and Afghanistan saw serious damage to their frames and suspensions due to extensive weight place on them, which is what prompted various reinforcing and upgrades.

HMMWVs were trash by modern standards to begin with though. Slow, underpowered, and not very reliable. The armor kits and heavy weapon systems they mounted on them exacerbated the problem. The fact that many were driven by high schoolers and serviced by retarded 20 year olds didn't help. Remember the HMMWV was an 80s offroad vehicle that eventually turned into an APC. As a basic replacement for the jeep, it was good enough. The problem was brass wanted it to be more, and that is what killed it.

>Do you need the tailgate up? Consider investing in some of the "upgrades" seen on technicals employed by SOF units in Syria back in 2016. If you want to build something, fabricate a bed extender (see pic)

The tailgate isn't necessary when operating as a technical. Neither are doors for that matter. I'm not going to bother armoring it except for light kevlar armor around the bed and cab area. The bed extension is an excellent idea though and will be incorporated into the design.

>Get your hands on another UK AA tripod, or at the least the upper part of the assembly and fabricate a mount base attached to a piece of plate you can bolt to the frame through the bed.

Its not a heavy enough weapon to need that. The UK doesn't generate enough recoil to necessitate a dedicated bed mount. A better idea would be to weld a mount onto a headache rack with the gun on top in my opinion. Frees up bed space.

The pros of the mexican style technical is that it allows for multiple weapon mounts in the bed, can fit more men standing up than sitting down (thinking standing room only on a bus or subway) for rapid transport of troops into an area at the expense of protection for those men, and finally it will be easier to mount kevlar curtains to protect from shell fragments or to hang gear. The technicals in your pic kinda capture the idea with the chainlink side walls on the bed.

>>676007

>he can't weld

True, but I'd rather not bother the welder in my group with a request if I don't have to.

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e870af  No.676093

>>675977

Yes, then you field-strip them and put your round in their chamber.

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3d8991  No.676102

>>675991

So, you're saying that OP should make some friends that he can count on for maintenance

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0ff81c  No.676189

>>676102

Exactly. All Strelok should, unless of course OP is himself a mechanic or competent enough with engine repair/vehicle maintenance.

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0ff81c  No.676191

>>676026

>Chevy Colorado

Nice, I know a guy with one, it's a nice truck.

>HMMWVs were trash

I was speaking mostly about the initial invasion forces loading down their HMMWVs with personal kit, long before add-on armor kits like FRAG-4. Saw lots of images of HMMWV with bowed-out suspensions loaded down with rucks, ammo, ect.. but you're right.

>pros of mexi-techs

That's a fair point, I'm just not a fan of their design, seems too cobbled together, but a point could be made as the Mexican's have been fighting a protracted low intensity conflict for the past two decades and run lean when it comes to vehicles.

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a06785  No.676448

File: 415237ee7dafd29⋯.webm (2.52 MB, 298x360, 149:180, mexican_monstruo_noreste_….webm)

Check out the Noreste cartel monstruos. They've been highly effective against rival cartel incursions.

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a06785  No.676450

File: 96fd43418fbb3aa⋯.webm (1.02 MB, 206x360, 103:180, noreste_convoy.webm)

My apologies for the shitty quality, this is a Noreste convoy, most trucks share the same armor design.

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387ac7  No.676451

>>676448

Seems like an armored box in the back of a halfton. Reminds me of the armored technicals contractors had in Iraq. Not bad, but my truck isn't designed to hold armor. I was thinking aluminum rollbar cage with kevlar sheeting to protect against shrapnel. I wanted to avoid armor since I figured it would become a magnet for .50 cal fire here in the states.

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a06785  No.676452

File: 278d489f5bd6ca6⋯.webm (2.48 MB, 360x360, 1:1, inside_gulf_cartel_monstr….webm)

>>676451

Federals use their own personal ballistic shields as improvised armor, they stick them between the box and the cabin or at the sides. Later pickups have a thin layer of ballistic steel to protect the passengers, and it seems that this was what inspired the CDN to adopt such design.

And now a glimpse inside the spic tin cans of doom, this one is from the Gulf Cartel, they seem to favor suvs over pick ups

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016193  No.676453

>>676452

>>676450

>>676448

How effective are these cartels? Are they dumb niggers with guns or are they actually good at combat? I'd love to go 1v100 against them

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fe9d32  No.676454

>>676453

Most of them are just nigger tier, but they can be deadly with the right leadership. Norestes have a better grasp of basic tactics so this gives them the edge against their rivals (Gulf cartel)

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016193  No.676455

>>676454

How many are there? I never looked into the whole cartel situation in mexico, I just watch the weekly execution that happens whenever someone gets caught. What would it take to wipe them out?

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387ac7  No.676463

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>676455

>What would it take to wipe them out?

Kill every mezito in latin america.

>How many are there?

One in every medium sized or larger city, give or take.

>>676452

I take it something like this vid?

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fe9d32  No.676507

>>676463

Any suv or double cabin pick up will do it. Yet I still think that the CDN approach is suñerior.

>>676455

(checked)

There are too many of them. And they all operate in different ways.

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de0d1c  No.676520

A few random thoughts I'll throw into this decent thread, nigger rigged technicals are another positive aspect of the battle rifle, certainly some might be welded/armored up to stop 7.62 NATO et al, but many won't, and the larger bullet will do more damage to armor so follow up shots can pierce through, the heavier bullets/greater power have more chance for spalling against the right materials, more likely to break things in engine compartments and whatnot when they do get through weak points or do pierce through poor armor.

The other positive of a 50 caliber semi auto rifle is related. Not only are they a good long distance gun, they are still the civilian armory's best bet against nigger rig technicals, even decent built ones in some cases. If other weapons, even the battle rifles are having big trouble with well built armor, the big boi rifles have an answer. With many set ups you see in Africa to Mexico to what you might see in a civil war or uprising in the US, an Antifa technie would not have a great chance against a skilled semi automatic big boi rifle. Keeping one or some in your arsenal for anti technical work during a civil disturbance isn't that bad of an idea.

As for OP's build, one thing about avoiding armor and over complicated builds is "grey man" take off the LMG and it looks like a normal truck. You may build a hell of a nice armored, well build and engineered technical for Mad Max, just keep in mind that even during a conflict it would be very useful for and a good thing, that it will lose the camoflauge of the obscurity of commonality.

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702431  No.676567

File: d5924847f72378f⋯.mp4 (9.35 MB, 854x480, 427:240, d5924847f72378f42a3b46d14d….mp4)

>>676453

Here's an example of a cartel raid on a mechanic shop they wanted to get rid of.

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2f065a  No.676981

File: 2583ab8e4267b32⋯.jpg (178.71 KB, 872x586, 436:293, D8Up1wPUcAAcdIj.jpg)

This is what the ideal technical looks like. You may not like it, but it's true.

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74ae05  No.676983

>>676451

If you have the cash, by all means, but it's hard to beat a solid inch of steel. If you're trying to keep on the down-low, I'd still suggest putting actual steel plates in the doors and truck bed.

>inb4 i don't wanna hire/ask a welder to help me out

He won't care and whatever money you spend on a professional welder will be spent five times over on aluminum and kevlar.

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74ae05  No.676984

>and truck bed

And around* the truck bed. As in, in the vertical sides around the bed.

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b6a358  No.676986

>>676520

>>676520

7.62 neato AP will go through military armored vehicles at 100ft. If you check out STANAG I-III (ie 99% of armored vehicles) armor values most levels're only rated to stop it at over 100ft, in many cases a lot over. And a lot of STANAG IV and even V have areas on the vehicle which can be penetrated by it at close range. Its why city fighting is shit, you dont need RPGs just climb to 2nd floor and shoot the tank commander through his hatch with a battle rifle.

API is 30-50% weaker than simple AP because part of the penetrating projectile is a phosphorus pill.

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d836b4  No.677049

>>676981

>bulky, slow, heavy and unmanueverable

>these sheet metal plates surely will protect you from anything bigger than 9mm

>now comes with a meme rocket launcher

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387ac7  No.677053

>>676986

I have API to cause damage to people wearing lvl IV body armor. It won't penetrate but will still kill/maim from explosive damage.

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c09b98  No.677093

Would it make more sense for a hypothetical technical to have a diesel engine? More torque for carrying shit, better mileage, and more reliable. I believe GM is offering diesels on the Colorado/Canyon now and if you have a strong desire to throw yourself money away you can get dieseltoy to install a diesel in your Tacoma so that you can LARP as a Hilux.

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387ac7  No.677096

>>677093

Modern diesels in the American market are expensive to maintain comparatively to a gasser. DEF, emissions bullshit, and the GM mini diesel used in these particular trucks aren't known for reliability. Fuel is also more expensive local, and gasoline won't be as difficult to find as diesel during a domestic conflict here in the states.

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b6a358  No.677152

>>675913

Just get a used mig welder for $50-$150 its literlly easier to use than a silicone gun or a hot glue gun. Im not joking or exaggerating, I have made more mistakes with a fucking hot glue gun than with a mig welder. You can learn it in 15 minutes.

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95950b  No.677350

Nice ZR2

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