af1aae No.674659[Last 50 Posts]
Has any /k/unts ever met an ATF agent or have any friends that work for them? At this point the ATF is one of the universally despised and useless federal agencies and even normies are starting to become aware of this. The only normies that still hold on to the ATF are the CNN watching pedo libtards and bi-sexual dumb cunts that see the darling stars of the liberal media bust into an illegal mexicans drug house where he likely has firearms that would warrant the ATF to also be involved.
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4c39c6 No.674668
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991b41 No.674676
>>674659
I've had to deal with them on the occasion, though my brother gets the real shit end of the stick. I mean who the fuck thinks its a good idea to send an undercover agent who sounds like hes come straight of the ghetto to a place in literal bumfuck that does precision and restoration stuff to ask for a chopper.
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5443fb No.674756
Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.
I never understood the statement that the ATF helps with crime. They haven't done jack shit to cut on crime and on the contrary fucking commit cold-cut crimes. Embed is The Gang - How A Government Agency Uses The Law To Destroy Your Rights & Freedoms. This is Waco, a New Revelation, https://invidio.us/watch?v=Xr9pQ1pIbiU. Both of these are essential to watch, I haven't found any good ones on Ruby Ridge the best being a 10-minute video by some Irish YouTube fag.
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6a307b No.674954
>>674756
>I never understood the statement that the ATF helps with crime.
Because THEY HELP with crime.
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026351 No.675092
>>674673
>Blaming the """"""Soviets""""""
>Not blaming the Jews
Jews hide behind the Soviet mask, you blame Commies, it's actually Jews, you blame Democrats, it's actually Jews. They have many masks
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991b41 No.675093
>>675092
It all boils down one way or another, hating commies is pretty much the same as wanting to roast said yid.
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26946a No.675112
>>674659
>or have any friends that work for them?
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26946a No.675113
>>674676
agencies that engage in entrapment should be culled violently
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0d666f No.675134
>>675092
>poltards with muh nationalist socialism
Anti-authoritarian master race reporting in
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e4922b No.675136
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0d666f No.675137
>>675136
>being gay for hitler
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a59669 No.675154
>>675134
>no timestamp
>mantits
>lolberturdian
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3edffa No.675335
>>675134
Nice tits. Too bad your ideology will fail to any and every unified ideology including modern liberals.
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6d4d9b No.675350
What would you suggest to improve the ATF? Asking for a friend.
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51cd18 No.675358
>>675350
Step 1. Take everyone in it and feed them feet first into a woodchipper.
Step 2. Then when that is done open a store chain that sells Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives.
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e4922b No.675362
>>675358
This tbh.
Get rid of the NFA and the other bullshit laws too if we're at it.
>tfw you will never go to a store to get a bottle of bourbon, an AN-94, and a few frags all at the same time
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9656f1 No.675365
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3edffa No.675368
>>675352
Yeah, exactly. You won't ever have freedoms because the first group of guys with guns and an idea will take them from you.
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0c7f13 No.675372
>>675350
I don't know how you can improve the ATF, I don't think it the agency people are mad at or the policies it handles that people are upset about. I've heard endless complaining about what the ATF does in terms of its mission and directives, but never about how the agency carries itself per se. Is the ATF harassing people, breaking the law, doing a bad job of going about its missions? Is it the dog we should beat or should we be mad at its master for giving it bad commands, so to speak?
If we're going to be open and honest, what about the backlog of NFA tax stamp applications? Why not get some manpower or some heat on the issue and get that backlog finished, the amount of time people spend waiting for their applications is getting ridiculous. Yes, there are things like unexpected demand, and the fact you don't want to overbuild a department or part of department for potential temporary surge in demand and then have do nothings or have to fire people or cut hours and department parts later when the demand goes down, but after years of demand increases things need to be addressed.
ATF rulings on guns should be more concrete and solid, also no more fence jumping. It either is fucking stock or a wrist brace or it isn't. Its either this definition or it isn't. No more jumping sides and changing definitions when this could put law abiding folks into danger of breaking the law, often without knowing if the government does a poor job of informing the public about law and policy changes. There should also be better informing of the public whenever possible, this is universal in all law and government. Post the laws and rules so everyone sees it, don't try to trip people up when possible. This catching people off guard might be innocent (sorry we didn't get the message out there, we are a beauracracy after all) or sometimes on purpose.
To come with an understanding and policy based ideal, to treat threats to public safety and well being first, the 1984 idea of "law enforcement" something to be discarded. Better to focus on those doing harm rather than technical breaking of law here and there. Due diligence, do justice.
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a4ae0b No.675376
>>675368
>thinking owning firearms is a one way street
>mfw
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3edffa No.675378
>>675376
>He thinks he can one man army versus a unified and motivated army.
>Or several groups of people.
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b09d72 No.675381
>>675376
no its a two way street, you`re just to fat to run across it.
most important part of combat is endurance I don't care how high speed you think you are, you cant fight a group that can swamp you with volume of fire and men.
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edf77f No.675387
>>675372
They constantly harass mom and pop stores and rural gun shows at the local VFW by trying to get honest people to commit some obscure bullshit crime by technicality instead of going into "the hood" to arrest the actual straw purchasers and track down real stolen guns and illegal dealers because they are fucking cowards that don't want to arrest people that will shoot back. They gotta make their quota and its easier to create criminals instead of going after existing ones.
Tax stamps and their wishy washy rulings on what is and what isn't illegal is all fucking bullshit. You don't need a fucking tax stamp to fucking vote or say whatever you want. Why in the fuck do you need a tax stamp to exercise your 2A rights? Why are they making rulings on things that are outright illegal to own when it says "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED" right there? The ATF simply existing is a crime against the constitution and needs to be disbanded along with the FBI for being worthless, redundant and a direct threat to peoples liberty. The only federal crime task force that should be allowed to operate across state lines should be the marshals. There's nothing they can't do that the FBI and ATF are tasked with doing so why do we have these redundant and corrupt agencies?
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e4922b No.675391
>>675372
>>675387
1. The government doesn't care about you or your freedom. It pretends to do until you're all good little slaves.
2. There's money involved.
3. Jews
You're retarded if you think that only one part of the government needs to be removed when the entire shitshow needs to burn down.
I want this retarded jew country to collapse, cause shit to go down everywhere with its collapse, and for a decent restart.
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b41c4b No.675395
>>675378
>if you believe you have rights I-I-I-I'll KILL YOU
Absolutely dicklet
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9cc853 No.675400
>>675134
You’re not anti authoritarian though. Libertarianism is simply cucking yourself for giant mega corporations, foreign economies, and racial enemies. How is being ruled by faceless mega corporations, with the power to make or break society, with their wealth and complete control of the economy anti authoritarian? How is letting these capitalist kikes ship all our industry to China, and give all our labor jobs to spics anti authoritarian? How is letting hordes of third world savages invade our lands, divide our cities along tribal lines, and then rape and pillage anti authoritarian?
Libertarianism is literally just what we have now, only with less welfare, environmental restrictions, and drug laws. Ensuring that the poor starve, the environment goes to shit, and drug addiction becomes even more common. You’re deluded if you think the only way mega corporations can form is through state power. And you’re retarded if you think small business will ever make a significant comeback without the power of a Fascist\NS state backing them up.
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3edffa No.675401
>>675395
No I'm saying you don't have rights if you don't have a method of defending them. You know, like a unified nation as opposed to a bunch of goofy lolbergs playing wolverines against a foreign power. Libertarians are to the right what anarchists are to the left. Nobody takes them seriously except themselves. They're dinner for everyone else. Come and take what's left of it. I'm sure Amazon will be happy to support your gun loving life style, Apple is likewise a bastion of western values.
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b41c4b No.675403
>>675401
>if you're not a statist you must be a corporatist!
Imagine being so retarded that your only attempts at an argument are strawmen. I'm not even a libertarian, it's just entertaining every time you underage /pol/niggers derail threads with these cookie cutter tier posts.
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3edffa No.675404
>>675403
>so retarded that your only attempts at an argument are strawmen
I hope the irony is not lost on you.
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b09d72 No.675405
>>675403
if anything you`ve successfully proven yourself incapable at understanding the fact that without a group of people with similar ideals to support you, you`re going to be steamrolled by any and every group that exists
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b41c4b No.675409
>>675405
Not even once have I said anything that was in contrary to that idea. Can you read, Strelok? Did you pass first grade?
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b09d72 No.675411
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9cc853 No.675414
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dde647 No.675416
>>675403
I can't tell if you're actually this retarded or just baiting. Irony is deep like >>675404 stated.
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d99d76 No.675420
>>675400
> How is letting hordes of third world savages invade our lands, divide our cities along tribal lines, and then rape and pillage anti authoritarian?
All those baste minorities can be made to wear maga hats and win bigly while learning civic nationalism and forgetting they have an ethnicity, history or some form of culture.
After all, hwites managed to do it?
>>675413
Dude, it's the government keeping me back from just opening my own company to break coke/pepsi, /McDonald/BurgerKang Intel/AMD duopolies.
If government didn't exist my creativity and ingeniousness would cause me to create a breakthrough invention to break up those groups, they certainly wouldn't send a hitman to kill me, destroy all my research while having PR experts painting them as good guys.
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24f33a No.675434
>>674954
>>674756
It's interesting, the closest thing to stopping crime I've ever heard the ATF doing was a complete failure. One of the few interesting gun shops in my area (they sell a lot of used guns) had a store clerk who told me about the time that the ATF and local cops tried busting a gang that planned on robbing the store. Apparently they would just pretend to be customers for a solid month waiting for a break in, only for the gang never to show up in the first place.
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5443fb No.675449
>>675403
>only attempts at an argument are strawmen
>you underage /pol/niggers derail threads
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9cc853 No.675473
>>675460
>You both have terms, goals, and enemies. That must mean they’re exactly the same!
>>675461
>>675463
>Cringe
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e4c987 No.675475
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3bb99d No.675503
>>675434
nonono
I don't think you understand.
They HELP with crime.
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6454ae No.675520
>multiple deleted posts
>pro-freedom Streloks assumed to be /leftypol/
>freedom of speach is now dead on /k/ because of some /pol/ snowflake mod
It's like bizarro halfchan /k/ here
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d99d76 No.675521
>>675403
How do you stop conspiracies from occurring, how do you ensure groups with more capital don't murder competition that doesn't accept their buyout, conspiracy partnership or bribery?
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b41c4b No.675523
>>675521
How do you stop those things if the state is the one doing them? Does the existence of the state somehow magically prevent those things, and is the state in any way guaranteed or insured to work against those in the people's favour? Changing 'muh corporations' out for 'muh state' is idiotic and doesn't actually change anything about the problem, not to mention the fact that libertarianism is by definition anti-corporatist. You're getting it confused with ancapistanism. If people of a certain ideology say they want nobody ruling over them, that means nobody, it doesn't mean "not the goberment". Said ideology is based entirely on the fundamental value of shooting anyone who tries, because freedom requires force to protect it. I have never understood what people find hard to understand about that.
The answer to the question of 'how to prevent corruption' is always the same, and it always lands on the shoulders of the common man, nobody else. It was the same in 1650 in Ireland, in 1776 in America, and in 1964 in Rhodesia. Spooks get the bullet. Anyone who isn't willing to give them the bullet does not deserve freedom, because freedom is about the responsibility of taking your life into your own hands.
Now stop derailing this thread and talk about the ATF, you glowniggers.
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d99d76 No.675524
>>675523
>Does the existence of the state somehow magically prevent those thing
In a non jewed country whithout moral relativism and law derived from morality, yes.
>government dissapears
>Big corp still has all their assets, revenue, and capital
>somehow they won't send a nigger to shiv you between ribs becuase that'd violate the NAP
WHAT IS THE INCENTIVE FOR FOLLOWING THE NAP WHEN BREAKING IT IS MORE BENEFICIAL?
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b41c4b No.675532
>>675524
>In a non jewed country whithout moral relativism and law derived from morality, yes.
Evil and corruption just stop existing? It's impossible for a bad person to ascend to power? Nobody schemes? People don't lie to get an advantage because they think they might not get caught? What is your example of such a utopia?
>>government dissapears
>>Big corp still has all their assets, revenue, and capital
>>somehow they won't send a nigger to shiv you between ribs becuase that'd violate the NAP
Nobody ever made a post resembling anything like that. Who are you quoting?
>WHAT IS THE INCENTIVE FOR FOLLOWING THE NAP WHEN BREAKING IT IS MORE BENEFICIAL?
Not getting shot. Why don't you attack people who make minor slights against you, or who get in your way? Firstly, because you are presumably a responsible and ethical person, and secondly, because they might kick your ass if you try. There is no bigger or more effective deterrent against kikery and niggardry than threat of force. I'm not responding to this again, discussing with such shortsightedness is pointless and this thread is long past ruined. Good job, faggots.
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d99d76 No.675533
>>675532
>Not getting shot
I break into your house at night and murder you in your sleep.
I poison your water supply, rig your gas installation (that doesn't have any safety standards to begin with) to explode.
What now, your death is investigated by no-one as corpses arenot agents on the market,
>because you are presumably a responsible and ethical person
<My ideology is based on an unsubstantiated presumptionthat everyone I interact with is ethical, responsible, honest and good.
>because they might kick your ass if you try.
<but might makes right, let's hope the strongest don't realize there's nobody stronger than them and use that to collectivize or just individually terrorize the weak.
>Evil and corruption just stop existing?
Yes, exactly the same way you presume everyone is responsible and ethical, under my system, there exists an insurance that the rat-people or space aliens who do commit crimes like murder are found and brought to justice as a result of an investigation.
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3edffa No.675549
>>675533
Like I said my Indonesian friend, they are the right's anarchists. Completely senseless and their ideals fall apart under any form of thought. The only people who take it serious are them.
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c41db6 No.675554
>>675520
>snowflake
At least try to learn the lexicon before you post here, nigger.
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b4cfbc No.675556
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c41db6 No.675559
>>675556
>well ordered society is literally Hitler
Fuck off, yankee. I can smell your stench through my fiber optic connection.
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b4cfbc No.675561
>>675559
>triggered
Go back to your containment board
>>>/pol/
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c41db6 No.675562
>>675561
>sage as a downboat
My great-great grandaddy didn't kill enough of you cocksuckers. He may have killed his share, but that wasn't enough, seeing as how you draw breath on this mortal coil.
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c41db6 No.675563
>>675561
By the way, happy memorial day faggot.
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b4cfbc No.675564
>>675562
>LARPing this hard
You're a joke
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e4922b No.675570
>>675561
>>675564
>>675556
>Being this much of a niggermutt
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17f407 No.675582
>>675570
>>675564
Amerimutts infighting is always entertaining
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e4922b No.675587
>>675582
That's because this dumb country is full of retards like him. I used to respect this country once upon a time. Boy was I fucking wrong. Can't wait for it to collapse or get nuked. A hard reset is needed.
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e4922b No.675595
>>675592
Only an american by citizenship. I'm a slav by blood.
Still, I want the US to die. Hell, I want the whole damn world to burn down. Fuck everyone. Fuck this retarded board too.
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873292 No.675601
>>675595
>slav
>admitting to be a white nigger
>Fuck this retarded board too.
Good, leave; we won't miss you
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e4922b No.675603
>>675601
Eat shit, scandinigger. I hope you get cancer.
I remember when /k/ was good. Now I swear if I ever meet most of the posters here, i'd happily kill them.
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873292 No.675606
>>675603
>I remember when /k/ was good.
And then subhuman slavs like you came and shat up the place. I miss the days of just slav posers
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e4922b No.675607
>>675606
Oh I came up to shit up the place, huh?
Fuck you, nigger. You're the one shitting things up.
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f5fc65 No.675609
How many retarded lolbergs do you need to derail a thread? 1
I bet it's the same guy that thought Romania is landlocked
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4ce0f8 No.675611
>>675606
Calm the fuck down, Norway. How about you do something productive like guarding your border with Sweden to prevent Arab rapists from coming into your country?
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5e4359 No.675635
>>675634
>>675606
>>675601
I hope nobody actually believes this nigger is icelandic.
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62cad5 No.675642
>>675609
>>675635
So wie du kein Deutscher bist. Betrüger.
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f5fc65 No.675645
>>675642
Was hab ich falsch gemacht außer mich über den einen Deppen aufzuregen?
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2a0339 No.675646
>>675642
>>675642
Nice google translate, "Moor".
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e658ac No.675653
>>675607
Something tells me you have polish blood with turkish admixture, only way to explain your retarded posts.
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235bbb No.675654
>>675642
Oh look it's fucking spergkike again.
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77aff6 No.675661
>>675653
I thought making retarded posts was the approved way of posting in nu/k/.
Who cares about dumb stuff like guns when you can shitpost instead?
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add445 No.675673
>>675671
R E P O R T E D
: ^ )
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591587 No.675695
>>675134
>unironic reddit tier shirt
>shitty glocknade, not even the decent glock 40 10mm
>man titties
You are the pinnacle of faggotry
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811cd2 No.675719
>>675609
Russia to the north and Turkey controlling passage to the med. They might as well be landlocked ha
nah but tbh this thread is retarded
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3ff2bd No.675786
Talked to a gun lawyer the other day. He basically told me the atf doesn't like much of the nfa either. Short barreled rifles shot guns etc. So cut the batman some slack and help them out by repealing the NFA. It's better for everyone.
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02c2fc No.675788
>>674756
Thanks for that video. I love how it starts with a Turner Diaries style raid of 3 BATF niggers (actual niggers). In the other video segments showing BATF, there's a fat hippo-looking niggabitch standing there while her jew boss does all the talking. Very informative.
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8a1139 No.675834
>>675786
If they don't like it, why don't they just stop enforcing it?
The ATF used NFA as a justification for Ruby Ridge.
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51cd18 No.676366
>>675786
>Talked to a gun lawyer the other day. He basically told me the atf doesn't like much of the nfa either.
If the gun lawyer took what the (((ATF))) said at face value he's an idiot, if he just told you that the "ATF isn't that bad" he is complicit and also needs to be feed feet first into the same woodchipper.
>>675834
This, they basically killed people for shits and giggles.
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a7bece No.676414
>>675786
So, you took the word of a lawyer, about the opinions of a government agency? What the fuck is wrong with you?
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e4922b No.676415
>>675786
You're a fucking idiot as is the (((lawyer))) you talked to.
Every single person in the ATF deserves to die.
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