/k/ - Weapons

If your son hasn't killed a boar or deer by age 13 you're a pretty shit parent. As for me, I'll teach my boys how to shoot once they reach 10. I'll take them hunting at the age of 12.

From a political standpoint, we have mandatory health and driving classes in many US states, but why no mandatory firearms classes?

Why make kids learn to drive, when it is a privilege you have to earn, yet you can own a gun at 18 with no experience, and high probability of self injury or mishap?

We should replace school drivers ed with shooters ED, and then grow children to be responsible pro2a gun owners who wont have to be unfucked when they get drafted. We teach US civics from 1st-3rd grade, but we do not teach gun responsibility EVER… why is that, when both are important parts of being an american?

>In the video, the kid is clearly faking interest and excitement

This is the only part I might have an issue with. If you grow up in the country you'll probably get started on a single shot .22 at 5 or 6, then they'll probably break the .410 out at 8.

I got my first bb gun when I was six. It was one of the lever action Daisy sort. I got my first .22 at 10, and my first .410 shotgun at 12. Started hunting whitetail at 13. From what I've seen out here in rural Texas, that's pretty much the norm.

My uncle put a ruger .22 in my hands when I was 8 ant told me to shoot at a target he stapled to a tree. Few months later he took me hunting. Shot a deer because he didnt trust me to hit it but taught me how to skin it. Had a blast and have loved guns since.

>>671154

My first introduction to weapons was when my grandpa gave me some illegal imported air rifle and told me to shoot a chicken with it.

>>671157

I think I was six or seven when I got handed an old marlin and was told to remove the pests around the yard. Oh boy was it fun retrieving the tube after it flew wherever.

>>671160

My introduction to shotguns was you gotta pull both triggers.

>>671117

You sound more ass fractured about the fact he wasn't given some shit-tier toy, rather than this being an age issue. So what, he decided to induct his son into shooting at age five…this some kind of misplaced rage because your parents didn't let you have a BB gun when your were 17? Fucking whiny blogfaggots.

lmaoing at this polish nigger

my little cousins (7 yrs max) are already proficient at working the airgun and crossbow. if i had the opportunity and arms i would immediately start with rifles and everything associated. burger children and yours might be pants on head retarded but not mine. as soon as they stand they get to pull the trigger

>>671117

you can teach really basic gun safety after age five. you can teach shooting with a BB at age 8, you can let them shoot a .22 at age 10, at 13 they should be able to handle a .223 to 20 ga. after age 13 the only limiting factor is strength.

desert punk sums it up in "Fine Sand and Full Auto (Kosuna - Fully Automatic)"

Paul Harrell did a video on a similar topic.

Not really sure what I could add that he hasn't already covered.

Really just depends on how your kid is. They mature at different rates. I got into guns when I got interested in guns and started asking dad if we could go shooting. I was probably 9, and it worked out for me.

>>671126

Eddie Eagle is a program the NRA runs for this purpose.

>>671184

Pretty much what I say but with BBs. Force-gifting your 5yo a thing he has little to no interest in is stupid, especially if said thing requires discipline and following strict rules.

>>671174

Nice adhoms and whatifs, Aquafresh van der Jamaal

>>671138

But that's the whole point. Why giving your child a gun if he, living in a house chock full of guns, didn't manage to get enough interest in it, and is probably more interested in 3-4 different things, including puppies? I mean I know the answer, it's YT watchtime shekels, but this exactly is what makes this situation wrong. My child has interest in guns at the age 2 (as in "what the fuck is daddy doing, and why can't I participate"), I go buy a water pistol. We shoot toilet paper stuck to the wall with a water pistol, and everyone has fun. I've only watched the very beginning of P. Harrell's video, and I agree with his points, but my opinion is that gating gun purchases at the age is still a good idea - and automatically gives a perfect birthday present, and also lots of anticipation and excitement about getting it in the future (assuming it's not a surprise present, which I think it should only be in relation to model, accessories, color, etc, and not a fact that it's a gun).

>>671131

Similar situation here. 11 year old nephew is into nerf toys, and I said he should get an airsoft rifle. My hippie sister wasn’t too keen, and frankly with how he’s been raised he probably wouldn’t be able to hold it upright for a more than a few seconds at a time.

>>671269

My mom has grown in such an environment that about 50% of her acquaintances have at least one family member fucked up by either drugs or weapons (knife is a weapon, right? So is a stool, if swung strong enough), so I never had a heart to tell her how much I'm into guns and that her back pain ointment is actually cannabis-infused. She is deathly afraid of anything even remotely dangerous and (as perceived by her) illegal. My stepfather though appreciated when I shown him my shots with .308 (he was a part of some sort of African PMC, so he's pretty alright. Sometimes I regret that he wasn't my biological father - although I'd probably look a lot uglier in that case.)

>>671123

When I was in scouts the first time I shot a gun was at a troop shoot, first a shitty bolt-action rifle that barely had any kick to it, then a fucking pump shotgun which I absolutely loved, hurt like a motherfucker though but it was worth it

I don't know what age I first shot a BB gun. Probably 12 or so.

I do remember I was 14 or so when I shot my first real gun. Don't remember whether it was an AK or an AR, except for the fact that I fired it in full auto. Fun times. It was some range in Las Vegas.

>>671117

I was taught to shoot a red ryder by 5 and a .22lr marlin by 6. Just pay attention to what your kid is doing and keep your eyes on him/her. Give thorough instructions and be right next to them the whole time. It's not like you're gifting them a fucking .22 to run into the woods and do anything without you being around.

Also, avoid handguns until later. It's easier to be safe with a rifle.

All children should be an expert with a handgun, a rifle, and a shotgun by the time they're 8 years old. That's how we do it in the south. Also, swimming by 5, and reading books by 7.

Reading this thread makes me hate my parents.

>>671316

You should be reading books at 5.

>>671125

Had me worried at the beginning, smiling at the end

good shit Polack.

>>671296

>>671313

>Underage and b&

No where in the site or board rules state you have you have to be 18 to post. This isn't 4chan you fags.

>>671117

Whatever age the child both shows an interest in firearms and mental capacity to understand the basics of how a firearm works.

>>671316

>Also, swimming by 5

>not at the age of 3 or 4

lmao, what a pleb

>reading books at 7

do you want a retarded kid?

t. read "farm animals: pig" with soft "fur" on the cover when I was 3.

>>671117

>he doesn't put an unloaded revolver in his baby's crib so he develops an affection for a firearm at an early age

>>671324

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Kek

>>671332

Go be underage back on 4cuck, faggot.

>>671117

To answer your question OP there's a fine line in parenting between fostering your child's enjoyment of somethings (firearms, sports, etc.) and trying to force your child into something simply because you want them to be interested in it, which is what the father in your video seemed to be doing. There's a natural way to get children into things. All the father had to do was slowly get his 5 year old into target shooting, starting slow first (perhaps even Nerf guns first if anything) and then move up to actual guns.

>>671269

>mom bans toy guns from house

>says it promotes "guns are toys attitude"

>dad gives me bb gun

>love that shit

>take to it quick, go shooting anywhere I can because it's fun

>tell mom she fucked up hardcore by banning guns from the house

>tell mom she didn't raise a proper American

>she concedes

>>671117

>Pooland making shitposts

What a fucking surprise.

My eldest boy at 7 can recite the four rules of gun safety better than most adults, and treat daddy's guns as no-go zones when I am cleaning- if a barrel is pointed across where they want to cross, they ask me to lift the gun up so they can. Same goes with their four year old brother. This also means that the forbidden fruit factor is taken out of them, as it's just another one of "daddy's things I shouldn't touch". 7 year old also enjoys plinking with his air-gun, though I have to cock it for him since it's an under lever. The defining part of any hobby is interest, and you cannot force anyone to take an interest in it without it ending badly most of the time.

Here's the video btw.

Also what's with all those nigger responses lacking any arguments besides anecdotes? Not even disagreeing with me, just being niggers:

>hey, gating firearm gifts by age is a good idea, and forcing a potentially dangerous hobby onto someone disinterested is stupid

<haHAA pooland my kids shoot airshit at age 2 everyday willingly

Not even from burgers (except by >>671169 that didn't seem to read my post at all), which my post was mostly aimed at, but from some shithole countries like Sweden or Netherlands.

>>671473

Do muslim women and children also bow down in your presence in public?

>>671497

Guns are tools.

No matter if you're interested in construction or engineer work, you should be able to drill a hole, hammer in a nail or operate an electric grinder. So, even if you're not a big fan of guns you should know how to operate them on a very basic level, remember the gun safety rules and know how to behave in a range. Basic stuff like remembering about safety, pointing the barrel in safe direction, treating all guns as loaded aren't hard and don't require passion. So even if your kid doesn't show interest, explain it is an absolute basic like multiplication table.

>>671508

Ideally it would be like this in every country. I still think that just as there's certain schooling age, there should be a gun practice age when all kids are tested for their gun aptitudes, from a sense of caution and responsibility to correct operation, focus and accuracy. This way you can tell which kids are retarded and will need more work from the beginning and which kids are naturally talented and should be fostered as dedicated marksmen from youngest ages. All the dumb kids need to be taught is basic maintenance and home defense stuff. Natural talent should be treasured, these kids should be venerated like sportsball jocks in the muttland and if they're interested in joining the army, they should be directed towards better units. The reality is that jews and shabbos goyim don't want to bring innate talents out of white kids because it could end up in effectively training a generation of school shooters and kebab removers who would be at least as effective as Tarrant and Breivik.

>>671513

>whether that's the second

amendment

5 is fine, it's one thing if the kid isn't into it or not, it's another about being age appropriate.

you sound like a pussy.

>>671515

I like when there are clear boundaries in life. You may be able to trust a 2yo with a gun, but there is little reason to, and just as other age-gated activities, I feel there's almost always a better alternative (nerfshit / water guns / audiovisual guns - the ones that sound "RATATAT" when trigger is pulled ) as those alternatives are more appropriate. You can use them to play with your buddies (airshit is borderline, but I had an airshit spring cocked pistol when I was small, and most of my friends did, and no one was hurt more than a bb in the butt). Guns are not good for that. Kids need to go be kids as well. Paul Harrell brings up a good point - kids like fun, and supervision is rarely fun by itself, so it should be fun enough for kid to tolerate supervision as well. This implies natural interest plus all skills to understand safe operation of a firearm in a safe way. I honestly get a feel that some people reacting negatively to my suggestion of restriction just as a fucking kneejerk (i will freeze my ears to spite my grandma that nags me to put on a hat in the winter), and don't have actual kids, as having kids you would probably relate more to try to aim their life in a general direction of mlre safety and less retardation, which all but the absolute best kids are prone to until they experience the nasty effects of not following rules on their own.

Yes, you can tell me more like "your kids" have followed all the gun rules on their first range trip at 5, I will tell you "Bullshit" immediately. Following rules is boring. Kids don't like being bored, and will sometimes ignore rules for the sake of convenience, and the earlier they start, the higher the chance of that. With something more appropriate, e.g. low powered bb peashooter, they might experience the punishment of not following the rules on their own (a bb to the leg, a bb to the cheek, stray bb discharge into a dog, etc) with less pain involved.

>>671117

9-years-old is a good age.

>>671507

Dunno why they'd do that, I'm a straya cunt postin' thru vpn.

The problem with your proposition in OP is that you're trying to find a fits-all-answer to something that doesn't fit all kids. It wasn't uncommon in the early 20th century for kids to have already gone hunting for the pot by the time they were 8; elmer keith writes in Shotguns of busting up his lip at 7 because he got too ballsy and packed his dad's single shot 12 gauge instead of a 22 to pick off some game. His mum had to hold his lip whilst he ate. You'd have kids back then building whole goddamn tree-houses from pine boards with saws and all, because the dumb shits got filtered quickly. At least in your later posts you accept the basic premise that not everyone is going to be the same, or even responsible with a gun, ergo your attitude of "clear boundaries" is going to fall more upon your judgement of how capable your kid is.

>Following rules is boring

Not when the alternative is that the fun gets taken away and daddy puts the gun away in it's safe. Kids that are lucid and cognitive, and can have a functioning conversation with you, and follow instructions to the letter this means actually having discipline in yourself and your monsters, the amount of fucking times I've seen nigger kids just left the fuck alone at the community pool to run amok near mine whilst the mum's nearly 50 meters away is astounding will understand that something could be very very dangerous if you're very silly. A nice idea I saw was to have the gun mounted in a swivel-vice with soft jaws. It holds the gun for the kiddie and they get to plink away. Another way of enforcing the four rules is to have one of those laser pistol target sets that replicates a real pistol. If the kid breaks any of the four rules and has no awareness of what's behind the target, his fun ends.

>>671516

i have 3 kids, i'm just not a faggot city dweller and kids learning to shoot around the age of 5 is normal around here.

you're not letting the kid "own" the gun and i don't know but do you work fulltime? i know my boys are just happy to spend time with me regardless of what i am doing, we go shooting and they have fun, i certainly wouldn't force them to do things they don't enjoy or want to do but from birth they have been the prototypical boys, i guess i've just been lucky because i don't have to try to get them to like "manly" things like guns,trucks and the rest, they all naturally kinda drifted there without anything to do with me as i'm not trying to socially engineer my kids, they like what they like, i'm ok with that, they just so happen to like cool things.

beyond that, what the fuck do you think taking a 5 year old shooting entails? do you imagine just handing them the rifle and ammo and saying go to it assuming that memorization of the rules is enough? my kids did nothing more than flip the safety, pull the trigger and put the safety back on…rifle in a bench rest and since i'm shooting on my own property we shoot a bunch of old shit from the kitchen and the barn, probably wwaaayyyy more fun than punching holes in paper for kids….

really man, you just sound like idiot and a pussy with some kids that just aren't into what you're trying to show them, mine aren't like that. i don't know what to say, it is what it is.

and yeah, people are reacting to you call for restrictions because not everyone has the same problem as you do and don't think things like this should be handled by the government, if your kids need to be older then they need to be older, you make that decision based on the actual kid themselves….and honestly, i missed the part about you calling for restrictions, you should go fucking neck yourself you pearl clutching piece of shit…

>>671513

Also, as an unrelated post beaverpost proposes that the continued existence of a nation is always correct, and favours vague self immolating collectivist ideas such as nationalism and civic responsibility.

A nation is nothing but the individuals of it hiring a goon to protect their lands. Once the goon starts demanding payment without any option of opting out with their property, it is no longer moral.

>>671525

like i was saying to the other guy, maybe it's just a different way of life, my kids were playing with real hammers and saws at the age of 3….i don't know, i've never had kids before and i'm not the sort to look at what other people are doing much less care, so i just kinda judged when i thought the boys were old enough to play with hammers and saws and around 3 seemed right, by that time they had already learned how bad smashing your fingers hurt and knew that things are sharp and will cut you, it really wasn't too much of a stretch give them a hammer, start a nail for them on a old board and let them go to town while i was doing some work on my own…..

lol, i swear you pussies are going to give me a complex or some shit about my kids being too young for x,y,z, like i said, i never really thought in those terms and just based things off of what each kid seemed like they could handle, never got caught up in the thought process of the number of their age and what they should be doing at that particular number.

Are you asking what age to start teaching how to use a firearm, or what age to give one to your child? I would start going over the rules of the range, trigger discipline, firearm maintenance and all that around 7 years old, with incremental steps towards letting them hold an unloaded firearm, take one apart, eventually load and fire it.

As far as buying a gun for them to call their own, I see that as a sort of graduation gift for when they display the proper understanding of the weapon. Probably between 10 and 12, it would depend on the interest and uptake of the child in question.

I would have a trainer 22lr or something similar for them to use, but I don't know if that's the rifle I would give out in the end or not.

>>671530

>A nation is nothing but the individuals of it hiring a goon to protect their lands.

Wrong. A nation is:

>the people

People sharing something in common, a race, ethnicity, common ancestry.

>the land

The clay they live on, most probably the one they have had to fight for in the past.

>the culture

Their language, customs, something that's specific to them and what has developed through the years. Going down to such minuscule things as food, accent, way of speaking, style of clothing.

If a nation grows big and expands, it's obvious it'll need some sort of leadership; at first family patriarchs deciding what's best for them, then tribal leaders, then a king or a different unifier of many tribes that all share the above points and together form a coherent nation. If at some point the government becomes corrupt, the nation doesn't stop existing, it either bows down and takes it, or revolts. The Boers, for example, managed well enough to protect their lands, but when the bongs started to push them too hard, they gave it up and went to their trek. The independent nation didn't stop existing just because "the goon" started demanding too much, even bongs winning the war and controlling the territory didn't put an end to their existence. Do you think they wouldn't be assimilated without, as you call it:

>vague self immolating collectivist ideas such as nationalism and civic responsibility

>>671117

My dad has always been a been anti-gun boomer democrat. I was about 10, and one day returning from football practice he spontaneously began to give me a lecture about how guns were bad etc. etc. Of course a 10 year old tones him out, and he got angry that I wasn't listening & offered to take me to a gun range to 'show me how dangerous guns are'. I jumped at that, and so he found some gun range in the middle of bumfuck nowhere and rented what was probably a Glock and got an based redneck obese bearded guy, dunno if he was an instructor or what, to teach me gun basics. Despite being unable to rack it and only load half the mag I had so much fun that paps decided the lesson wasn't getting through and made us leave before the box of ammo was through. Then mom divorces him and starts dating a retired Master Chief seabee, who takes me shooting every every few weekends. Guess what the first thing I bought when I turned 18 was, and guess why paps kicked me out.

I'd say that 12-15sh would be the optimal age to get a kid his first gun, though it depends on how mature they are. If I was given a plinker at 12 I would've done something supremely stupid with it unless restricted heavily.

>>671525

To think 'finitychan is blocked for yous kids is a shame. We're up in Korea town in time for raw banter

I can't even remember the first time I shot a gun, probably pretty young. Got my first BB gun at like 12 or something.

>>671272

It was a 10ga with hot handloads. I shot that thing a few more times and if I can recall correctly I said something about duck hunting being a sport for fat people or something around those means.

>>671596

>People sharing something in common, a race, ethnicity, common ancestry.

This can be done without a government.

>The clay they live on, most probably the one they have had to fight for in the past.

Deceptive, as you do not fight for others unless you seek to gain from them unless an altruistic dolt.

>If a nation grows big and expands, it's obvious it'll need some sort of leadership; at first family patriarchs deciding what's best for them, then tribal leaders, then a king or a different unifier of many tribes that all share the above points and together form a coherent nation

[Citation Needed]

You don't actually need anything other than a protection of consent and contract, which can be done many ways, whether that be private courts or by voluntary government. Once again, you presume by the need of an autocrat that people cannot be rational, thus the need for one man with a gun pointed at people suddenly makes them rational, which is contradictory as it requires an irrational act in order to make them so, and violates the very principle of courts. No man may start force, yet the government which is not voluntary starts it daily. No man may commit theft, but a non voluntary government taxes you.

>Do you think they wouldn't be assimilated without

Nationalism implies a state. Civic responsibility is a term that varies from person to person, from anything from paying taxes and voting right up to conscription.

A culture is a collective of ideas and values given by individual minds, and a person who thinks cannot be assimilated by force if he values himself. Put simply, even if you were to capture a smart man and try to force him to invent something, if he values himself he will give you nothing since he will simply see his inventions turned into an octopus that will destroy him and his reputation everywhere he goes.

>>671673

Dunno about you, but my boy is reading Dr. seuss books to his siblings every other night.

>>671675

Props to you and your boy. All I was saying if you're still learning to read at 7 years old something went wrong and you would be behind.

I'd say teen years. My gf shot her dad in the arm when he took her shooting when she was 10, accidentally. My cousin also shot my uncle's truck when he took her shooting when she was 7.

These are deadly weapons guys, even a

.22 can fuck your shit up. Putting that in the hands of a child is stupid. Some of you are still going to choose to be stupid, so at least try to mitigate potential damage.

>>671811

>her

>her

I think we found the issue here, and it has nothing to do with age

dad's friend's adopted son and recent 'Nam vet gave my older bro a 1911 BB he'd stolen from the Army when my bro was about 9yrs old. My dad was pissed that happened without being asked, and explained that ain't the sort of shit you do without asking a parent, but dad took us out to shoot it, and learn gun safety, etc. About year later my bro and me were allowed to shoot in back yard, since it barely had any power.

My bro got a real BB rifle for Christmas in 8th grade, and we shot the shit out of it. As kids it was our duty to do the pumping and hand it to an adult if and when we had grown up visitors to our home in the mountains to shoot off the big back deck.

>>671316

>7

U focking wot m8? I could read by 3 and I'm not even particularly intelligent or successful.

Be me, work armed contract security, have 3yo daughter. My boss and friend also has 3yo daughter, we make plans to take families out to shoot. Take kids and wife/girlfriend out to plains and set up range. The toddlers get to shoot single shot .22 rifles for their first time under close supervision. Both girls do well and manage to hit the target several times. After shooting the little .22s I offer my little girl to try my personal AR15. It is to big for her so I kneel and hold the rifle, letting her work the trigger. First shot she looks at me with bewilderment and surprise; 15 rounds later she has a grin ear to ear ringing steel at 25yds. Her friend wants to try my boss's AK pistol, he helps her, same experience. The girls play in the truck for the rest of the day satisfied while we train for a bit.

Fast forward 6 months, the girls are now 4. My wife wants to go shooting class 3 for her birthday, a little out of my piece range at that point. Get my boss to help me set up epic steel target range training day for family and friends. Got wife a proper holster and gun belt for birthday.(yes, I know I have an awesome wifu) Our kids are there and they want to shoot, but not .22s, they want to shoot "daddy's guns". Get a break in the action while others were not on the line, stick our cooler down w/blanket on top. Stick my AR over it, sit cross legged behind, have my daughter in my lap, I charge the rifle and put on safty. This time I make her shoulder the rifle and site the target; although, I have a red dot so not an onerous task for her. She plays around trying to get the hang of it, which was encouraged so she can learn. All the sudden a shot rings out and we here back from down range a satisfying "ding". She hit a target about 100' out first shot. She had flicked off the safety on her own, I was a little upset but she was doing so well and still following the rules I did not want to chastise her for it. She scored 15/15 dumping the mag on the same target, flicking the safety on after the last round. I was shocked and proud. My buddy had his daughter try his glock "not-SBR" conversion toy this time with similar results. The girls were satisfied for a bit, but had another round of dead eye, following the rules and smiling the whole time before they were done for the day.

My wife and I are so impressed by her we are talking about building her an AR for her frame: ie light, small and low recoil. It probably helps my daughter sees me put my pistol and gear away when I come home. We talk about my work gear and other toys regularly, we play fight all the time(despite my age I am a competitive fighter). My wife is also into the whole deal, not just supportive, which goes a long way to normalize it in the family. We do live in a big city, I really wish we didn't, but my daughter and wife still know how to defend themselves. In the end, it is white /k/omando families like mine that scare (((them))) so fucking much. My toddler daughter and wifu are more capable than most zogbots I have worked with. Fucking hell, by the time my daughter hits puberty she will probably be training with the guys from work. Welcome to burgerland in flyover country.

>>671117

I would introduce a child at the earliest possible age to weapons. The first ones will be replica types and extremely safe, and they will be trained in their handling and use, have the correct lessons demonstrated. Girls will be trained to a militia level and all boys must be able to kill a man by the time they are 8. This is the normal standard, and in many ancient societies, boys would have weapons by the time they could walk (at least wooden swords and the like).

>>671126

Because we're ruled by foreign tyrants who hate us and want us enslaved or dead, preferably dead. Schools should have gun ranges again just like they did before integration.

>>671132

what's she up to now? this vid is pretty old

my parents never knew that I kept a pistol and shotgun in the house, and I still haven't told them that i did. Had to hide them in the attic cause I was the only person who went up there to fix stuff.

>>671123

The whole "There's already muh Girl Scouts" argument is fucking retarded. Do you want your daughter being taught to be an SJW faggot in the Girl Scouts or being taught useful skills in the female division of the Scouts?

>>672934

"Girl scouts" concept is retarded in itself.

>Girls learn scout thingys, the scoutmaster is female

<don't learn shit, because females are incompetent in anything boyscout, girls are unsafe from outside dangers

>Girls learn scout thingys, the scoutmaster is male

<no way in hell I would let my girl on a trip with a man

>Girls and boys have mixed classes

<boys don't learn so good, girls don't learn so good, maybe some degenerate stuff happens

I'd rather send my daughter(s) to housewife classes, and teach her boyscoutish stuff myself, on our family trips.

>>672983

>Girls learn scout thingys, the scoutmaster is male

<no way in hell I would let my girl on a trip with a man

so you object to male teachers in schools too?

>>673070

Because the west isn't killing them

>>673072

And never will because they allowed literacy and consequently social influence to their women.

>>673059

>schools

>not tutors you hand pick and verify yourself

>>673076

Αδερφέ ανώνυμε, οι ξένοι είναι άχριστοι και (κατά μεγάλο ποσοστό) ευνούχοι, πρέπει λοιπόν εμείς να πάρουμε την κατάσταση στα χέρια μας

>>673059

False equivalence, school is a public place, trip is not.

>>673143

Some schools organize trips like this, or organized at least.

>>673085

Obviously it's the best option, but it can be costly and tricky to figure out if you don't live in a major city. Also I don't think schools in our country are as cucked as in the west. Yet.

>>673101

Légyszíves írj angolul, mert így rajtatok görögökön és legfeljebb néhány tanult értelmiségin kívül senki sem fogja érteni amit írsz.

>>673178

>we now need tenfolds the struggle and bloodshed of our ancestors to redeem this socialism-ravaged wasteland.

I'd kill 9 and a half million of us if it meant we would finally get rid of communism and kikery. I'm not afraid of the bloodshed, I'm afraid that it may never happen.

>>673204

>I'd kill 9 and a half million of us if it meant we would finally get rid of communism and kikery.

I see you are a man of quality as well, but perhaps you won't need to do that. The fall of the American world dominance will probably create a power vacuum that leaves us with a few decades until a new top dog comparable to the US could emerge. Until then, you will have time to eradicate your enemies and reconquer your ancestral lands…

Let's revive the thread, because why the fuck not.

>>677611

>>677534

Make your hangouts have an atmosphere of a forbidden fruit, let the little guy know his mom wouldn't approve and it's going against her. Kids love going against their parents' whims especially if parents are unironically retarded.

>>677527

Fuck, I can't stop watching, the little faggot's nailing it.

>>677621

Also this. Make him feel like learning how to survive in the wild, make a fire, exercise, shoot guns, etc. is taboo