f775da No.670305 [Last50 Posts]
Post and discuss modern blunderbusses, shotgun tactics, recommendations, etc.
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1356ff No.670326
why haven't they made belt-fed shotguns yet?
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f1ab03 No.670332
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1356ff No.670334
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b41195 No.670342
>>670305
Is there a sexier looking shotgun than the 870 Marine Magnum?
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1356ff No.670344
>>670342
Literally anything with wood furniture on it. Bonus points if professionally engraved
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2490d7 No.670347
Anyone have that old Hotaru Maniac thread "An often misunderstood weapon" that resulted in a complete shitstorm?
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22a92b No.670348
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caf7e1 No.670350
Can anyone recommend me a semi-auto, magazine fed shotgun available in America? Preferably with large magazine sizes, 20 rounds or more.
Thanks in advance for taking the time to help me.
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798ae7 No.670351
>>670342
Something that isn't remshit
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1356ff No.670354
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80c02b No.670355
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f775da No.670364
>>670354
Vepr-12 isn't readily available in burgerland, is it?
>>670350
I would say the Mossberg 590, that holds 20 in a magazine. But's also a pump for some stupid fucking reason, because I guess Mossberg wanted to prove that yes, you can halfass a shotgun.
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958955 No.670366
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002bd4 No.670370
The pump shotgun is cheap and reliable, a tough weapon that is extremely capable at close range. It's a legal and available gun to those who suffer in gun control areas, For home defense it is second to none in capability, its reputation is without any doubt. The buckshot pellet is far less of a risk in urban areas than rifle rounds. Its a weapon capable of hunting and sporting clays, then to be loaded with different rounds for heavier hunting and home defense. The king of short range versatility, the closest to one stop shot a man can get.
I suggest that even those who aren't shotgunners get a shotgun and shoot skeet, even some bird on the wing. The practice of quickly aiming and hitting targets will help you in combat situations when you need to quickly aim and hit moving targets. Shotgun practice will make you quicker and better, simple as that. Also its another reason why its a great weapon for home defense, a man who duck hunts or blows geese out of the sky while they are flying can take the same gun and barrel and employ it against what is often a quickly moving attacker in a home defense scenario. If you can take quail out of the sky at 30 yards, an attacking crack head at closer ranges will be even easier.
I think the whole capacity mania is in the wrong place in shotguns. Shotguns are not open field weapons that employ high rates of fire to suppress enemies, it doenst' need 20 round box magazines, it doesnt' gain much from it. If you can't defend your home or put down the subject with an extended tube magazine then the problem is you (or longer ranges than what the gun is ideal at) and not the lack of capacity. If you think you need 20 rounds in a shotgun, you either need to get a rifle or learn to actually fucking hit things.
Keep in mind when people say that there is truth in the failings of auto loaders, this applies specially to shotguns. They are far more sensitive and problematic with auto loaders than anything else. Cheap auto loaders are a bad idea, only purchase the very best or go manual. The reason why the pump shotgun persists is that it is so damned rugged and so damned cheap, and worthy auto loaders are so damned expensive. When Johnny Flincher doesn't like his full power 12 bore loads he buys low recoil variations, then he really fucks with the reliability of his auto loader. Keep these things in mind when choosing a weapon.
Just my pointless ramble on the subject.
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f775da No.670373
>>670370
>Shotguns are not open field weapons that employ high rates of fire to suppress enemies, it doenst' need 20 round box magazines, it doesnt' gain much from it. If you can't defend your home or put down the subject with an extended tube magazine then the problem is you (or longer ranges than what the gun is ideal at) and not the lack of capacity. If you think you need 20 rounds in a shotgun, you either need to get a rifle or learn to actually fucking hit things.
I feel like the anon who brought that up isn't preparing for a home defense scenario, but those are valid points for a home defense scenario.
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6c9c32 No.670376
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8909f1 No.670379
>>670370
>>670373
Except a saiga-12 or vepr-12 with a drum mag is just plain fun.
>b-but you don't need that
Fuck you and fuck your optics.
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611b48 No.670381
I wanted to get some proper wood furniture for my 590A1, but there's no point in prettying it up for home defense. Well, there is, but the local police know me with a good rep, so eh.
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f775da No.670382
>>670376
I have more but they're not of shotguns, so have Beretta 1202fp girl instead
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f775da No.670383
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d3f01b No.670389
>>670370
>you don't need that
Goddamn fudd.
If only you had included the "the pump alone will scare them away" your post might have been the perfect copypasta.
Home Defense is entirely different from hunting and you need as many shots as you can get for when Pablo and his beaner brigade come barreling down your drive.
Reloading a pump-action is pretty taxing when there's several dudes running at you.
Or do you simply believe that it's only gonna be a lone malnourished tweaker breaking into your home? Or what if you fuck up and panic and -God forbid- *miss* a shot or two?
It's always a capacity thing with defense. It doesn't apply to hunting, where, in a civilized country, your traditions wouldn't even allow you to carry more than 2 shots in the gun at a time.
I'm not saying that pump actions are bad, I'm just saying that capacity is paramount for any life or death situation.
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f775da No.670391
>>670389
https://www.foxnews.com/us/texas-homeowner-shoots-kills-3-men-and-injures-2-during-home-invasion-officials-say
>Three men were killed and two others were injured after dozens of shots were fired by a homeowner in Texas during a home invasion early Sunday, officials said.
>The incident happened around 1 a.m. in east Houston after five men wearing ski masks broke into the home, police told KPRC.
>"The homeowner appears to have defended himself," Houston Police Department homicide detective Travis Miller told KTRK-TV.
>One of the suspects was found dead in front of the house, while the others fled in an SUV and on foot. Police told KPRC that the SUV crashed into a pole nearby and a second suspect was found dead inside.
>A third suspect who was in the SUV fled, collapsed in the street, and later died, KPRC reported.
>The fourth and fifth suspects, who were also injured in the shooting, were taken to the hospital. The incident remains under investigation by police, who did not release additional information. The homeowner was not injured.
WHY DIDN'T HE JUST RACK HE SHAWTGUN!?
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002bd4 No.670392
>>670389
Well I get the usual response from the usual members of the peanut gallery. I say that a box magazine's capacity won't help in a shotgun gunfight and the usual accusations of "fudd" and hysteria over magazine limits surfaces and the point I was trying to make gets lost. So I'm not surprised by the usual knee jerk reaction of this post.
Capacity isn't paramount, especially in close quarters. Capacity and multiple hits in a string are more important the weaker the round you use, the less important it is with more powerful and destructive calibers. If you are reduced to a handgun or a submachine gun, yes you need to learn to fire fast and effective and your capacity might be important to some extent. Even here, is a 40 round magazine much better than a 30? Yes and no. Is there something to be said that if you can't end the threat in 30 rounds you should take cover and reload with your next 30 round magazine and not blame your failure on not having more capacity? If 5 poor hits didn't do it, we just need to keep firing more rounds? Many a gun fight has been won in the first shot, your 60 round drum might just lay on the ground full and useless next to you after someone fired carefully. Does a battle rifle with soft points need a 30 round magazine, or does a 20 round standard do fine?
When we talk shotguns, which are highly lethal and destructive, and have high recoil and are more difficult to fast fire, we reach the point where a 10 round tube is breddy gud. You can kill several men if you aim well quite easily, and its not a weapon that lends itself to rapid fire and control anyway. The heavier recoil the bigger the gun the more important you make those individual shots count, it reaches the point of being opposite of the combat handgun or SMG. Hit each man in the center once and then scan back to see the effects, don't worry about tagging the same asshole over and over. At some point a SMG needs 30 rounds if you want to do 10 triple taps, a shotgun can be more effectively be used one shot per target before taking cover. No, at some point the whole notion "capacity is paramount" just doesn't hold.
At some point standard capacity magazines (what the fuck is high capacity) are nice to have the extra rounds, but they are NICE and POTENTIALLY beneficial. They are not of PRIMARY concern. I have 40 round magazines in my C93, if I have to defend myself with it I woudn't feel much worse if all I had were 30's. If you can't fix a fight against a handful of men in the first 30 rounds you've got bigger problems than capacity. At some point firepower and careful aim take more importance than just raw amount of rounds fired. So I disagree on a basic level. My battle rifles are my primary, 20 round standard magazines, I suppose a casket mag on my FAL woudn't hurt but I dont' think it would change most situations anyhow. My shotgun is a pump and I'm going to aim carefully and make those few, powerful, hard hitting rounds count.
As for my suggestion of pump, I already mentioned that. People who consider shotguns often go with pumps because they are affordable. This is why they are brought up, cheap pump actions are good weapons that people will afford. By the time you go auto loader, go big or go back to pump guns. If you are serious enough to buy a good auto loader, fine, but if you are going to buy lower end just grab a cheap R870 or M500. Also, my point on clay busting to learn shooting; buy a super ultra tactical shotgun and one day you never bust clays with it and miss out on the benefits of wing shooting and clay busting to learn that quick shooting at moving targets. A more traditional profile shotgun will be used for these purposes, a tacticool shotgun might never be used for such.
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8909f1 No.670394
>>670392
Nothing saying you can't buy TWO shotguns.
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b2ae87 No.670396
>>670392
>just don't miss
>everyone goes down in one hit like the movies
>if things happen it's your problem
>just be good lol
Faggot. Want to know how I know you've never shot under the clock?
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f775da No.670397
>>670392
>wall of text about how count fagula would 360 noscope everyone with one shot one kill because nobody ever takes cover or wears armor
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6b6f34 No.670398
I have been wanting to get a Browning BPS since it eject shells downward making it extra left-hand friendly. I would like to get one for bird hunting.
It would also be cool to get a .410 "firearm" by ATF definition for home defense.
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93935a No.670400
Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>670379
>b-but you don't need that
But I do need it.
With a horseshoe mag or a proper spiral drum mag.
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93935a No.670402
>>670391
>A neighbor told KTRK he heard the shots and went outside to make sure he wasn't dreaming.
Either he's a retard, or he's /k/.
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002bd4 No.670408
>>670396
I can shoot awful fast. You know what you learn from shooting fast? Your follow up shots are worse than your original shots. You can't rely on your follow ups, especially your later follow up shots far further into a string or into your cycle, if your first aim was fucked up to begin with. What you end up with is cover fire, not accurate killing fire. At shotgun ranges, where the gun is at its best and effective, you best be hitting targets and not spraying at them. With a high recoil gun you are better off focusing on better hits than "I'll just slow down midfight and aim better later". In close quarters you don't have time, if you are in a gunfight you can't hope your 7th shotgun blast will do it, it might already be too late.
>>670397
I'm not saying one shot kill, I said secondary shots are follow up shots. The aim of a shotgun is to hit hard and secondary shots are follow up to work if the initial hit didn't work, rather than the handgun/SMG tactic of simply using multiple hits as a core of the philosophy of the weapon. I never said one shot is good enough, I said you come back with the shells you have reamaining to finish the job.
Both posters are strawman arguments which are worthless and disregard what I actually said. There is truth that if 10 shotgun shells at 10 yards can't finish the fight, 20 probably wont' either. If you want high rate of fire and to simply blast away, get an assault rifle or battle rifle or pistol caliber carbine and just forget the shotgun. What we have is a case of pistol shooters trying to apply their logic to a different weapon entirely.
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179e5a No.670409
I did this to my Shockwave. I love it. The combination of wood & steel is nice. It's also a blast to shoot because the brace flexes, making even hot slugs easy on your shoulder.
Pump shotguns rock.
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f775da No.670416
>>670408
>There is truth that if 10 shotgun shells at 10 yards can't finish the fight, 20 probably wont' either.
You know, I've been around a little while, and I have never, not once, met someone who has been in a firefight who said they wished they had less ammo.
You're either retarded or trolling, and either way I'm going to filter you now. Have a nice day.
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166a1c No.670418
Does anybody know where i can get an 18" barrel for an ATA Neo?
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e9127a No.670419
>>670408
Take it easy with the rip-fuel
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f2f9de No.670430
I think the main problem with box mag-fed shot guns is that they are box mag-fed shotguns. The rimmed cases and plastic hulls don't stack up well in mags and warp as well under the spring tension after extended periods of time. The shell sizes and aforementioned rim also make mags extremely bulky, heavy, and ready to snag on shit at higher round counts. The tube is better balanced and designed for the shell type in mind. Box mags will only be viable if used with those special H&Gay rimless shells that they abandoned because no one who kicks in doors for a living gives a shit about box mag fed shotguns.
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798ae7 No.670432
>>670430
Basically this. The geometry of shotshells doesn't mesh well with box mags.
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798ae7 No.670435
Any good videos of people being killed with shotguns in a fight? Only shotgun kill vids I've seen are executions and when Tarrant blasted those first few people in the Mosque entrance. I wanna see someone get dropped with a shotgun in a shootout or some kind of fight.
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f775da No.670439
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>670435
No, but here's a nice tactical analysis from Lord Harrell to tide you over until you find something.
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798ae7 No.670441
>>670439
I've watched that twice, but thanks
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386df6 No.670447
>>670430
So youre saying we need the pringles tube to end all pringles tubes.
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798ae7 No.670449
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>670430
>>670447
Shotgun speed loaders are a thing
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e494d0 No.670451
>>670389
>Beaner brigade
What the FUCK kind of taco stands do they have in Germany?!
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6edb06 No.670453
What would you say is the largest realistic gauge for a shotgun? I've seen 4 gauge guns before, but I think that's a little overkill.
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798ae7 No.670454
>>670453
Probably 8. We can do 4 when genetic engineering in humans goes mainstream
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aecbb1 No.670455
>>670454
…Exactly how big are the giganiggers invading your house that even a fucking ten gauge with two ounces of buckshot isn't enough?
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798ae7 No.670457
>>670455
You mean how big are the space giganiggas who's habitable moon system I'm conquering?
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248899 No.670462
>>670457
If Zentradi are invading your home you might need a little more than a shotgun.
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f775da No.670464
>>670462
What about… a shotgun elf?
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743560 No.670471
>>670454
Imagine an upsized vepr chambered in 4 gauge. Now add a drum mag and make it able to fire in full auto.
Now imagine the thing in 2 bore.
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179e5a No.670500
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248899 No.670505
>>670464
>tfw no sling mounted fairy to autoload your blunderbuss
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c19dea No.670518
But anon, does the barrel reciprocate?
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c416bc No.670526
>>670430
Box mags don't have to have springs though if you use a belt.
Have a nice video on a belt fed shotgun.
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179e5a No.670569
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1356ff No.670573
>>670569
>pistol grip on a tube-fed
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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798ae7 No.670575
>>670471
4 gauge would probably be too big and bulky for detachable mags.
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179e5a No.670576
>>670573
It's hella fun to shoot.
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798ae7 No.670586
>>670576
That thing looks like the gun version of groverhaus
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179e5a No.670587
>>670586
I don't know what that is, sorry. A quick search brought up reddit, but I'm not on it.
Is it a compliment?
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6a2297 No.670588
>>670350
Keep in mind that large shotgun box magazines are inherently problematic because of the stiff spring tension they require squishes the plastic shells, which are also rimmed.
Expect trouble.
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cccf78 No.670593
So, if I'm look for a semi-auto shotgun what do I get?
If I'm getting a pump shotgun, what do I get?
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42fc25 No.670594
>>670305
what can /k/ tell me about pic related?
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42fc25 No.670596
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42fc25 No.670598
>>670593
>semi-auto shotgun what do I get?
SAIGA-12
>pump shotgun, what do I get?
mossberg
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42fc25 No.670599
>>670381
just get pic related
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6a2297 No.670603
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798ae7 No.670614
>>670587
It was a clusterfuck of a house built in the great dismal swamp by some military contractor who was the mod of the military forum on SA
https://imgur.com/gallery/tI8ys
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f619d3 No.670627
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179e5a No.670633
>>670614
I thought it came out kinda nice! It holds 10 rounds in the tube, one in the chamber. Handles recoil really well. I think the combination of steel and wood is gorgeous, and with a 14" barrel it makes a nice, tight package.
OH yeah and fuck you very much for insulting my scattergun.
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798ae7 No.670643
>>670633
>10 shells in that tube
Get the fuck out of here.
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179e5a No.670648
>>670643
Mini shells, I mean.
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5c0636 No.670651
I was meandering around a pawn shop. Found a Remington 870 Super Magnum. Tasty. Got me a new shotfun. Ran a feed test at home. It takes 4 shells. 5, MAYBE. This is not okay because whoever pawned this thing added a mag extension, and it's not working right.
After taking it apart and checking for a mag plug (nope), I lubed up the spring and even the head of the follower (just a bit). Why? Because just before that, the follower got fucking stuck and I had to unload it using the ol gravity-assisted stock slam method.
After lubing, it runs pretty much fine, but it still won't load more than 5 (maybe) shells. I'm pretty sure the follower is getting stuck near the threads where the mag extension is attached/where the mag cap would be, and it just won't go backwards anymore. The hell can I do about this weirdness?
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f2f9de No.670655
>>670526
>box mags don't have to have springs if you use a totally different feed system entirely
pic related.
Though a hard belt running into a backpack like the AR-10 prototype would be one way of solving mag capacity issues without needing to get rid of the rim and reinforce the hull
>>670573
I don't know what the massive fuss is about. Its really quite common to see all manner of combat shotguns with a pistol grip since like, the 80s.
>>670594
Its an extremely light weight straight pull primarily for special ammo like door breaching dust buster shells in an under-barrel configuration.
>>670651
Whats the date code on it? You can also check the threads or god forbid, let a gunsmith look at it. If its a post 2007 date code everyone here has the right to laugh at you for being a dumb nigger.
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5c0636 No.670662
>>670655
Whoever cut the letters got ugly as fuck with it. I think it's OK, and by that I mean there's definitely a K and I think the first thing is an O.
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fe9fbd No.670665
>>670586
>groverhaus
Oh christ it's been years since I've read that saga time to take the trip again. Do you have a full thread archive anywhere?
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798ae7 No.670666
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248899 No.670667
Are bullpup shotguns a meme?
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5ed6d8 No.670725
>>670402
>"What…what is that sound?! IT'S THE MOST BEAUTIFUL SOUND I'VE EVER HEARD IN MY LIFE! I must experience this sirens sound in person!"
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0fa88a No.670734
>>670648
>mini shells
Tell me more. Explain it like you're talking to a child.
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9455fa No.670736
>>670655
>I don't know what the massive fuss is about.
On that particular shotgun it makes me puke due to where the safety is placed, it really only works on shotguns that have easy-to-reach safety mechanisms when using a pistol grip. (I also personally dislike it due to muzzle climb, all it really does is make follow-up shots more difficult)
>>670734
What's to explain? Half the power, twice the capacity, only issue being their reliability, would seem to me if I wanted a shotgun for home defense, I would avoid using them.
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c4f6b1 No.670740
>>670505
That would be an awesome video game mechanic.
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6edb06 No.670741
>>670596
is that a fucking bolter
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2e345b No.670742
>>670342
>>670342
M590 with matted wood furniture, Whippet, or any trench gun.
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ea07a2 No.670745
>>670409
I like everything except the grip leeks good homie
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179e5a No.670747
>>670745
I'm considering a Thompson style grip on it. We'll see.
Or a birdshead with a nice cap on the bottom. I think I'm gonna try to blind bolt it from the inside so there's no huge gaping hole in the back where the bolt goes through.
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179e5a No.670752
>>670742
I'll take one of each, please!
Also considered a Mauser pistol style grip because I thought the cut rings around it would go well with the cut rings on the corncob. I ain't feelin it though.
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24c4f5 No.670769
>>670454
>>670454
RV-85 is a chrome lined smoothbore in 26.5mm/4 Gauge with .25" chamber thicknesses. they were nitro-proofed at the BRNO factory for God knows what PSI. you can shoot the flare shells and reload them with black powder and 209s and rolls of quarters lol
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b6c4f9 No.670771
>>670736
There's no brands of minishell that are worth the reduced power?
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b6c4f9 No.670772
>>670771
>>670736
Or I should say, no type of minishell that retains it's power? I'm a fudd, please be patient.
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d130a3 No.670793
>>670769
Those things were specifically built to launch a 26.5mm grenade, its why they're nitro proofed. If I recall, there was a prototype of sorts that replaced the lower handguard on a vz58.
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179e5a No.670809
>>670769
Shouldercannon! That thing would be handy at a fireworks show on the 4th of July!
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ea07a2 No.670810
>>670747
>>670752
Thompson looks good if you want to shoulder it. I was looking at wood and i think ill just keep the birdshead style for the memes.
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7b60de No.670811
>>670769
so, what if I loaded one of these with a slugs for home defense? How many walls will it go through?
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179e5a No.670812
>>670772
We went out yesterday and shot about 100 rounds of them. Blowed shit up just fine at home defense distances.
*when going shooting at the sandpits, stop by a few grocery stores and ask for old fruit. They usually give it away. Blow the piss out of it, and leave it for the forest critters.
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179e5a No.670813
>>670810
I actually use the brace when my hand goes dead.
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ea07a2 No.670814
>>670813
Where can i buy that Thompson grip?
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b6c4f9 No.670820
>>670812
It might actually be better for home defense, what with not going through as many walls and all. Do they sell minislugs?
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b41195 No.670822
>>670742
I have to admit that I would own a trench gun any day of the week.
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179e5a No.670832
>>670814
No idea, I was gonna make it myself. Sorry.
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179e5a No.670837
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5c0636 No.670862
>>670655
Holy shit. So, whoever bought and installed the shit on this gun didn't do a lick of research because they never removed the tube dimples. Off to the gunsmith tomorrow.
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067426 No.670868
>>670862
>gunsmith
Do you own a drill, a punch and a vice? If so you can do it in less than 1/2 hour.
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5c0636 No.670879
>>670868
Just an apartment right now. No room for the good shit.
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bd71ea No.670932
>>670832
As in modify a prefab one, or do it all the way up?
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067426 No.670973
>>670879
That is pretty shit bro. Hell if you have a dresser that can be an impromptu bench if needed.
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b1328e No.670996
For the really stubborn brush.
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798ae7 No.671000
>>670769
Would it handle buckshot?
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b1328e No.671001
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b1328e No.671002
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2e345b No.671059
>>670822
The bad part is I've got a chinese Ithaca clone (YL-12), and now I'm looking at spending almost twice what I did on the gun to get a repro trench heatshield/lug assembly and some good wood furniture. Could be worse though, at least I'm not spending a grand to drag a Maverick 88 or 870 express through the Knoxx/Tapco/UTG catalog.
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179e5a No.671075
>>670932
Make it myself from one that's already cut to fit a standard AR lower. I *think Gene from blackgunswood.com *might sell one that way, but haven't asket yet.
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798ae7 No.671149
>>671002
Bit big for hand held firearms
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179e5a No.671152
Added a jeweled bolt and shell lifter.
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b1328e No.671180
>>671149
They suppose to be used in combination with a punt boat to kill all the ducks. Some of them were directly mounted and some of them were separate devices.
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56a9fa No.671193
>Smith and Wesson made a shotgun
>relatively recently at that
>one of them was done in house instead of a rebrand, though it was shit
Huh.
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42fc25 No.671214
>>670667
How much more of a meme can they be?
for that many rounds, just get something mag fed
>>670741
It's the US army's latest and greatest
>The M26 Modular Accessory Shotgun System (MASS) is a developmental under-barrel shotgun attachment for the M16/M4 family of United States military firearms. It can also be fitted with a pistol grip and collapsible stock to act as a stand-alone weapon. It is replacing the current M500 shotguns in service.[1]
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798ae7 No.671238
>>671214
> It is replacing the current M500 shotguns in service
That's fucking gay. I hope they mean as a breaching tool and not as a combat shotgun. It's a good breaching tool, but it would make a shitty combat shotty.
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d15697 No.671255
>>670355
Man, without ever owning a Beretta hands down they're one of my favorite manufacturers. I need to make it a point and get something from them as my next purchase.
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d15697 No.671263
Why are most semi auto shotguns so expensive? Not even to sound like a poorfag, I'm just not too knowledgeable on the subject. I've seen all those turkshit and chinkshit guns, so I do see where the phrase "you get what you pay for" plays into. I don't shoot shotguns much at all, so eventually should I buy a good semi shotgun I need to be sure and make a really well informed decision.
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89c6fe No.671265
>>670350
There's a cheap chink clone of the Saiga-12 called the Lynx or something.
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b1328e No.671278
>>671214
Why does it have two pokey sticks below the barrel?
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6622e2 No.671286
>>671278
Just some odd keltec proprietary bayonet, just like most of their accessories.
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b1328e No.671290
>>671286
I was hoping it was something like a tactical cattle prod or a pile bunker sort of deal.
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cfe7c9 No.671311
>>671263
I feel your pain anon, all I want is a Benelli M4, but fuck they're so expensive. I think the cost has to do with market demands. Until recently, most semi-auto shotguns were made for duck hunters. Now we're seeing chink and turkshit because of IPSC and IDPA, but those are hardly ideal. Your best bet might be a Browning A5, I often see them for ~$500 CAD.
>Not even to sound like a poorfag
No shame in being poor, anon.
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6622e2 No.671338
>>671311
I have always liked the A5, it was actually the first shotgun I ever fired. I've got a ton of time to think about it I suppose. I just don't shoot shotguns enough. My next major purchase will likely be a suppressor.
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a112ba No.671341
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e0faae No.671364
>>671255
>>671263
>>671311
I got lucky and got a Beretta 1201fp for about 300 shekels. My local funshop let me put it on layaway even though they weren't supposed to(another customer was selling it, so they normally won't let you do layaway for that at my shop).
Can you guys not put funs on layaway? That's what I do when I can't outright afford something.
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02a208 No.671551
>>670416
Every military on earth must be retarded for not making 150 round mags the norm for all assault rifles, right? Lol
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4f96be No.671729
>>671364
I know layway is an option, I could if I really really wanted something, but I have other projects going on. Right now I actually have an FAL receiver on layway, but its with a friend, and I'll be overseas until August anyway.
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42fc25 No.671747
>>670416
Yeah, but there is a difference between carrying more ammo, and the ability to actually use it well.
You can never have too much ammo, but you should also should not be such a waste of oxygen that it takes you 10 rounds at 10yrds to hit a target (unless ghosts, skinwalkers or those alien face fuckers, those can be hard to hit).
>You're either retarded or trolling, and either way I'm going to filter you now. Have a nice day.
>>670418
If you cannot buy one, either take it to a gunsmith and have him cut it down, or buy a tap set for your choke, and do it yourself. Many gunsmiths might be reluctant to do so for obvious reasons. If you have shop tools and files, you can figure it out.
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86d270 No.671787
I have one of these single shot, interchangeable Thompson Center Encore 12 gauge barrels laying around. I could get a receiver for it, and a scope, and even a suppressor, but I wanted to know if these are /k/ approved guns?
>tfw I could get 2 Mossberg Maverick 88's for the price of an encore receiver
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40cc1a No.671790
>>671787
I would. They're pretty quality, downside its all singleshot autism.
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464dda No.672866
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56d48d No.673187
>>670389
So is reliability and mag fed, semi-auto shotguns are jam factories. Ill take the 5 shot pump that will run any kind of ammo no problem.
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8d18e5 No.673213
>>670389
>Home Defense is entirely different from hunting and you need as many shots as you can get for when Pablo and his beaner brigade come barreling down your drive.
On average you shoot no more than five times in a home defense situation. I call bullshit that you know anything about home defense, you're just making unfounded claims and scaremonger about fanatically brave beaner brigades. Niggers expect easy loot, they count on intimidation as a factor and expect that weak whitebois will be scared and give them what they want. The moment the gun is shot they haul ass, if you take out two you can bet the rest will go running, so you might be good even with double-barrel filled with birdshot.
Even if what you're saying is true and you shoot more than five times the usual pumps usually hold, which is extremely unlikely, chambering a round or putting one more in the tube while you're still loaded isn't hard, even in the dark, IF YOU TRAIN IT. You don't have to even look at the gun if you're knowledgeable.
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543e3a No.673222
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b56d87 No.673226
>>673222
You have one ugly child
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6c361c No.673227
>>673222
This was never a good gun. I blame kikewood for shilling it
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543e3a No.673229
>>673227
She's actually decent, once you know how to handle her. Her only problem is she's over built and rather complicated. She is the proto-combat shotgun.
>>673226
I like the term visually unique.
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543e3a No.673230
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40cc1a No.673232
>>673227
The thing about it is you can run everything in it given its a god forsaken abomination of semi auto and pump action. Just need to know what will and won't cycle in it.
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6a2297 No.673240
>>673226
>>673227
Mamma mia, you'll end up getting a visit from Fat Tony if you keep this up
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4bf2aa No.673242
>>673240
Mobsters never cared for franchi surprisingly.
It was all beretta and benelli for them.
They also had a hard on for smith and wesson
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543e3a No.673254
>>673242
I would love to get a Benelli M4.
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2e345b No.673264
>>673213
Boy howdee the average statistics say we'll all live long happy lives as consumer animals and never have to face a dangerous moment in my existence. I'mma plan on the best case scenario and treat anything related to agency or self-ownership as a hobby instead of stepping an inch out of my comfort zone and taking responsibility for my own life. Murrica! amirite bois?
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8d18e5 No.673296
>>673264
> I'mma plan on the best case scenario and treat anything related to agency or self-ownership as a hobby instead of stepping an inch out of my comfort zone and taking responsibility for my own life. Murrica! amirite bois?
Prepare for something that's more likely first, then for something that's less likely. The fact is that a pump action is good enough for MOST self-defense home defense situations. Maybe not if you live in the middle of a 'hood, but I doubt anyone reasonable would do that.
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6a2297 No.673319
>>673296
There is literally no advantage whatsoever in using a pump action instead of a recoil action if you're shooting anything other than less-lethal rounds
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5fe35e No.673351
>>673319
>There is literally no advantage whatsoever in using a pump action
price?
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6a2297 No.673353
>>673351
Using, not buying.
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fb0439 No.673424
>>673351
Jamming, maintenance, don't have to adjust the gun if you're switching between 3 inch and 2 and 3/4 inch shells
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52a147 No.673427
My shotgun doesn't like shotshells with an aluminum rim due to them expanding from heat. What options for cheap birdshot with brass rims are out there?
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fb0439 No.673429
>>673427
What shotgun are you using?
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fb0439 No.673430
>>673429
Also RIO is cheap and it uses brass
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52a147 No.673431
>>673429
A piece of shit Mossberg 500 that I got a while back. I've heard good things about them, so I assume that it's my example that has problems.
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fb0439 No.673433
>>673431
They are usually great guns. What ammo are you using, maybe find out if other people using the same stuff are having the same problems. Could be shitty ammo.
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40cc1a No.673434
>>673427
Take a magnet to it, iirc most shotshells use a steel base in the white or brass plated. Methinks you need to lift a little or alternatively clean your gun.
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52a147 No.673435
>>673433
It's generic Walmart bought Winchester white box birdshot. One of my friends has a single shot 12 gauge that doesn't like it either, has the same problem of it sticking.
>>673434
It's not that it's dirty or I'm not pumping hard enough. I cleaned it pretty well but the extractor still has trouble pulling the shells out. It doesn't have that same problem with brass slugs.
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91ac87 No.673439
Would love to hear more about your guys' experience in recommending me my first shotgun since I'm only looking for pump-action at the moment and I got 3 brands to choose from.
>Maverick 88
Most I hear out of them are an extremely friendly price-point with new ones going 200 bucks flat yet still solid construction alongside some parts-commonality with Mossbergs
>Mossberg 500 series
A great brand to start with especially considering many of the 500s come in multiple flavors ranging from 350-550 avg.
>Remington 870
I heard their 870s after being bought by Freedom Group took a hit but are still somewhat solid, though many have told me to avoid the Express line due to severe QC issues on them with the same deal as the Mossbergs at 350-550.
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f2f9de No.673441
>>673439
If you are going to buy remmingshit, check the date code on the receiver to make sure the gun was made before 2007. Anything before that is fine.
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6a2297 No.673460
>>673424
>Jamming
Pump actions jam all the same if you're a novice or simply stupid
>maintenance
Are you saying you don't need to maintain pump actions?
>adjusting
Since we're talking about home defense, you're supposed to practice with one load and stick to it, neutralizing this point in this case.
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b690ec No.673464
How good is Remington 870 TAC-14 DM?
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8909f1 No.673466
>>673464
>Any Remington gun
>Made after 2007
It's garbage.
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b690ec No.673467
>>673466
Why did it became garage after 2007?
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f9c7b8 No.673469
>>673460
>Pump actions jam all the same
>manually operated pump action shotgun jams in the same amount as a much more complicated autoloading mechanism
>Are you saying you don't need to maintain pump actions?
Obviously it needs much less maintenance and less expertise than something autoloading, obviously.
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b690ec No.673470
>>673469
What is the best gun company to buy the high quality guns?
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6a2297 No.673472
>>673469
>applying gun lube to sliding parts is too complicated for the average burger
Okay I guess
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fb0439 No.673529
>>673467
Bought out by the freedom group
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0926d6 No.673587
>>673467
>>673529
>freedom group
Wrong.
Cerberus Capital
>Steve Feinberg
>William L. Richter
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f775da No.673589
>>673472
And field stripping/disassembling it for practice and cleaning, changing barrels, replacing parts if you use it frequently at the range or buy a particularly beat up one…
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6a2297 No.673594
>>673589
Read the reply chain and hang your head in shame
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fb0439 No.673609
>>673587
Cerberus owned the freedom group until they sold it to a bunch of other wall street jews
http://archive.is/gTvfc
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e11505 No.673613
Roll crimp vs fold crimp for handloading diabolo slugs? Got a lee load all already but will consider a drill tool if it's a significant upgrade.
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e242ad No.673874
So what if I want an over-under double barrel for fun? What would you anons recommend?
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fb0439 No.673962
>>673874
I'd say a stoeger since they're the only ones I can think of that are under a grand
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40cc1a No.673963
>>673613
Roll for anything. Fold is fucking retarded in my eyes.
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5a9207 No.674201
When you hate everyone around you including yourself
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e5909c No.674307
https://www.spas-12.com/shop
To anyone with a Franchi LAW of SPAS, buy spares of the synthetic parts (stock buffer and bumper, recoil buffer, grip plug, and o rings). The synthetics they used for those parts becomes brittle over time and will fail. It happened to my LAW 12 that was previously unfired, so it's not use related
>>673232
>using underpowered ammo in a combat shotgun and complaining that it won't cycle
Why do people do this?
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005c3c No.674321
>>674307
>buy spares
>becomes brittle over time and will fail. It happened to my LAW 12 that was previously unfired, so it's not use related
There's no point in buying spares if they have a shelf life.
You're better off finding better replacements or making your own.
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40cc1a No.674370
>>674307
Considering it was designed as a riot gun, bean bag and friends tend to not have enough whump to cycle semi-auto guns.
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7e242f No.674373
>>674321
http://www.spas12.com/ReceiverShockMaterials.html
The originals were nylon, the ones he linked are polyurethane, which doesn't degrade like that.
>>674370
That's why the SPAS had the magazine cutoff and ability to switch to pump action.
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7414b4 No.674432
>>670462
You'll probably need a GU-11 55mm gunpod for those bud.
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aa4c92 No.674439
>>670447
>helical shotgun magazines
I can get behind this.
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179e5a No.674544
>>670736
Ya know, I thought long and hard about what you said, and I agree with you. I found a new Maverick 88 trigger assembly on ebay for only $30. It has the cross-bolt safety that a PG shotgun should have.
Thanks for the advice, frendo.
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fd220c No.674595
>>674544
Please post results because I did like the aesthetics of your wood.
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2d9f10 No.674633
Ordered a Mossberg 590a1 magpul edition last night. Will be my first shotfun. Much excite
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179e5a No.675510
>>674595
If I can get it to work, I will.
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cfe7c9 No.675534
>>674201
$370 CAD? Did you pick it up?
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7fd352 No.676027
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7fd352 No.676028
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7fd352 No.676031
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179e5a No.676106
>>676027
Thanks.
>>676031
A gift for a friend on 4ch/k/. I *think he bought it from Gene at Blackgunswood.com.
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179e5a No.676125
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e2bd68 No.676150
>>671278
It's actually a safety tool. It impales your hand when you have an improper grip on the forend to prevent lobster claws.
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e4323b No.676177
>>673222
>>673227
>>673230
I love that no one has actually realized the weird brace thingy is for "cavalry" shooting from bike, horseback or vehicles when you legit can't shoulder it properly but still need to shoot. You would use both hands when doing so of course.
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59f8d1 No.676178
>>670305
Do punt guns, canister rounds for artillery or even directional mines count?
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f27a4e No.676179
>>670402
>>670725
I get excited every time I hear shots going off, hoping shit is going down.
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58016d No.676219
>>670396
>everyone goes down in one hit like the movies
When that one hit comes from 12 gauge 00 buckshot, they usually do. It is very rare that a second shot needs to be fired.
If you have a 12 gauge shotgun loaded with five shells of 00 buckshot, you have yourself a five bad guy gun.
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149275 No.676701
>>676178
Of course punt guns count. Directional mines only count if they have a barrel, though.
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b703f6 No.676712
>>676178
Has anyone ever used toyota-mounted punt guns for drone hunting?
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6560fa No.677130
>>670430
>>670432
you niggers every see this?
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6560fa No.677131
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166a1c No.677135
>>677131
honestly dont see the point of long barreled shotguns that aren't for hunting.
If you aren't gonna SBS it you might as well get a bullpup magfed.
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df71fd No.677151
>>677131
But the thing is, we dont fucking need rims anymore. Just make the cup from steel and use a magnetized surface to pull it up.
Or fuckstack them on top of the gun like a P90 and gravity feed them in…
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958955 No.677232
>>676712
If not, I want to be the first
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179e5a No.677267
>>674595
It worked. Now I have a braced, pistol-gripped Mossy Shockwave with a Maverick 88 trigger group with a cross bolt safety, and a gold Mossberg trigger.
Thanks again for the motivation.
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fd220c No.677289
>>677267
Neat, I didn't even know this was an option.
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179e5a No.677293
>>677289
It's a simple drop in for the Maverick 88 trigger group into the Mossberg. The gold trigger requires cutting off the top tab at the red line, marked above in the pic. It's also SUBSTANTIALLY more work swapping trigger in a Mossberg trigger group. Taking it apart ain't bad, but holy hell, it's a chore to get it back together if you haven't done it before. Like me!
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8909f1 No.677304
Thinking about getting a shotgun sometime. What'd be better for a first and maybe only shotgun? A vepr 12 or some pump action?
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8909f1 No.677318
>>677304
Also, what's /k/'s opinion on the mossberg 590a1 retrograde? Saw some deals for it at around $500.
It's a toss up now for me between this and a vepr.
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40cc1a No.677325
>>677318
590's are great guns. Just be wary of the parkerization on it, found it always tends to be on the thinner side of things.
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179e5a No.677361
>>677325
There flat blue is even worse. Shit comes off when you breathe on it heavy! Just beat the fuck outa it and sand the corners right away, it's very freeing!
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157ca4 No.677489
I've had my mind on the Mossberg 930 for a while, mostly because semiauto centerfire rifles are next to banned here. Looking around, opinions seem to be favorable, I'm just not sure if I'd be that much better off compared to a pump. Also, ghost rings or bead for a tacticool shotgun?
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186c3a No.677496
>>677489
It took me a bit with my 930, to get used to the ghost rings. First gun with them. But I found it easier to remember the pattern placement of buck shot. And the POI with slugs.
As for the pump vs semi argument. Its all on you and what you want the gun to do. Pumps are gonna be better for hunting. Semi autos are better for plinking and defense. Both will do any of those jobs well but it will have some downsides to keep in mind. Also remember that barrels for the 930 will be more expensive than those for the 500 or 590.
Also some quick notes on the 930. It needs a solid grip to cycle. Sort of how you can limpwrist a pistol. So no bumpfiring. You can fire from the hip or by tucking the stock under your arm though. The stock finish is terrible, get a plan on cleaning it off and refinishing it with something tougher. An enhanced follower is a good idea, makes shooting cheaper roll crimp ammo easier to load on an empty tube. It will eat anything 2 3/4 - 3 inch. Just don't use dragon's breath, you will have nightmares after cleaning it.
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fb0439 No.677564
>>677489
> semiauto centerfire rifles are next to banned here.
>Flag
VPN or Commiefornia?
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157ca4 No.677565
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c9d40d No.677575
>>670332
Imagine this but a very large pistol. I just want my storm bolter already
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c9d40d No.677591
>>677267
could you give me the deets on this build(aside from the parts you mentioned)? where can I get the trigger and the grip? what sort of lower end would I need to buy(don't own a shotty so idk what the lower end by the trigger assembly is called) in order to get a pistol grip? what benefits does having a cheese grater on the top of the barrel have and where can I get one(what's it called)? and where can I get a gold trigger?
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179e5a No.677602
>>677591
1. Buy a Mossberg Shockwave.
2. Buy a stock adapter. Once you remove the raptor grip, it bolts onto the rear of the receiver, accepts the AR style pistol grip on the bottom, and a standard AR buffer tube on the back. I used this one, but there are others.
https://www.cabelas.com/product/TACSTAR-SHOTGUN-AR-STOCK-ADAPTOR/2530147.uts (Make sure you choose Mossberg and not Remington).
3. Buy an AR buffer tube and castle nut.
4. Buy the pistol brace of your choice. I'd suggest something soft rubber so if you have to shoulder it in a defensive situation, it won't hurt as much. Soft braces from SB Tactical would be better than a KAK or Tailhook brace, which are hard and skinny.
5. It's easiest to buy a trigger group with the gold trigger already installed in it. Search for, 'Mossberg gold trigger assembly', on ebay, they come up pretty frequently. Brownells has them, too.
The thing with the holes is a heat shield that bolts on. Mine was a universal one, but it took a ton of tweaking to get it to fit. Others are easier to install. It's purpose originally was for use with a bayonet so you wouldn't burn yourself on the hot barrel in H2H. I like the look, and it has come in handy at the sandpits when the barrel gets hot and you're a dumbfuck and forget not to grab a hot barrel!
6. The wood AR grip was a gift from a guy on 4ch/k/. He got it from Gene at Blackgunswood.com.
Except for the gold trigger I installed in the Maverick 88 trigger assembly, and woodworking/finishing, it's just bolting stuff together like an AR. I wanted a a cross-bolt safety AND a gold trigger, so I had to disassemble/reassemble a trigger assembly. This was the most difficult part of the build. Be patient, take your time, and follow a YouTube tutorial, and you can do it too.
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179e5a No.677603
>>677591
Oh, and keep your length of pull BELOW 13½", anything longer could be considered a shoulder stock by ATF from what I hear. And never, ever put a shoulder stock on a Mossberg Shockwave unless you have a SBS tax stamp. Braces or the standard Raptor Grip only!
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a3b1a6 No.677606
>>677565
are you on the friendfinder map?
t. connecticuck
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6560fa No.677624
>>677565
>>677606
try being from il and not having the ability to buy a sbr or sbs im pretty sure its illegal here
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6c9c32 No.677801
>>677575
Why not just get one of those shockwaves that takes mags?
Put a regular pistol grip in it and then you could dress it up with external furniture adorned with skulls and wings
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26848c No.678052
>>670382
>>670305
MOAR
i like the tall ones
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157ca4 No.678259
>>677606
Yes, unless there's a new one I don't know about.
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fb0439 No.680122
Anyone have any experience with these?
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fb0439 No.681198
>>680122
bumping with sexy shotty
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be3bb3 No.681271
Might be getting a vepr next month.
Anything I should know about it or do with it?
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b9b6a5 No.681368
>>671180
>because "fuck you, ducks!"
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179e5a No.685061
What's this I'm hearing about the buffer tube and pistol brace no longer measured in OAL on a braced Shockwave? Anybody got a link or letter?
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6c908c No.685068
>>685061
If I remember right, it's because it's not a stock or grip and cannot contribute to the overall length of the gun.
Blame the faggots sending letters to the ATF looking to take credit for finding loopholes.
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f01549 No.685071
Let's say 10 kebabs are lined up in front of me in a tight corridor.
What is the best slug to pierce through as many kebabs as possible with a single shot? The slug has to be plated to avoid fragmentation I guess?
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2bb374 No.685072
>>685071
>10 kebabs
<with a single shot
<slugs
You'll kill 3 at most
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6c3529 No.685078
>>670409
>>677267
Unf!
name parts? I know the gun, I just don't know where I would look to get something that badass and rustic looing(I'm tired of the tacticool black and tan shit)
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23270b No.685080
Well finally got my shotgun. Any advice for what to add to it? Also, are the vepr drums any good?
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6c3529 No.685086
>>685080
nothing, just get some pie and enjoy your gun
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002bd4 No.685096
>>685071
As far as traditional foster slugs go, 12 and 20 bore expand rapidly and violently, many in ballistics gel will do about ~14 inches and hunters who use them on bigger game and shoot poor angles that require deeper penetration have had problems with them. Greek poster is right, foster slug you might get two, even three is pushing it. Three starving 3rd worlders if you shoot them through the chest at the best possible angle and they stand straight in a row. Maybe.
My 10 bore foster slugs might far far better, 1 3/4 ounces of lead instead of the usual 1 ounce in 12. You might get a multi kill then. They have so much momentum that even after they rapidly expand, they might still keep pushing and killing.
Now, let's talk about rounds that might not be as good for one and one killing, but might do better in terms of penetration in tissues. One cheap and easy stupid simple solution is skipping slug and going straight back to ball, a lead ball sized to your bore or choke won't expand as well, but will punch deep and effective. How many men is beyond an honest answer, but that thing might do pretty good in your hypothetical. Some Brenneke loads can do better when they don't expand as much as a foster. One thing beyond my research and understanding is the high end modern smooth slugs made for rifled barrels, some of them are built for longer range shooting and are more like bullets than slugs, heavier construction will help in this scenario. Taofladermaus did some thing with a tungsten slug, now that's something that might pierce your kebabs.
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179e5a No.685102
Atf letter saying OAL must be measured with folding stocks folded. Also states that buffer tube and brace cannot be included in the OAL measurement.
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179e5a No.685103
>>685078
Just buy one and beat the piss out of it. I used emery cloth and steel wool. I'm off to the woodshop tomorrow to make a new birdshead grip for Slampig now that ATF has ruled it illegal. Fuckers.
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f01549 No.685104
>>685096
I was thinking that all Brenneke slugs should be better than Foster slugs at penetrating, indeed.
Brenneke even has specialized slugs for that such as the Special Forces Maximum Barrier Penetration slugs. That's exactly why I would like to buy but I can't find them in my country, I guess they are either banned for being too dangerous or it's just that the sellers never paid attention to them (maybe because it's not really meant for hunting).
Idk how balls would compare to those, but not great I guess.
Thx for the reply.
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179e5a No.685111
I'll miss the custom pistol grip and brace, made it really nice shooting one-handed on the days my left arm wasn't working. Oh well, at least I have a spare buffer tube and brace for my AR now.
1st pic is how it looks now with the uglyturdraptorgripthingy, next is a mock-up of the birdshead I'll be making. Yes, ATF, it will be over 26". Please don't shoot my dog.
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fd220c No.685261
>>685103
>ATF has ruled it illegal. Fuckers.
Fucking kikes. That was a nice build you had anon I feel your pain.
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179e5a No.685265
>>685261
Thanks man. Put a lotta work into it. What really sucks is I'm a disabled vet with between %20 - %70 use of my left arm depending on the day. I really did use the brace on my Shockwave sometimes. If I strapped it to my right arm, I could lay it in the crook of my left elbow and rack the slide pretty well.
I could prolly get some kind of waiver, but I have AR's and handguns for self defense, so this was just a range toy.
Here's a few other ideas I'm tossing around for the birdshead. A simple curved piece with a decorative buttplate, a flared end like a revolver, or an old fashioned flintlock pistol style butt. The brass on the end would make a nice thumper! Heavy though.
We'll see….
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fb0439 No.685317
I really want a winchester 1300. Anyone else horny for these things?
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88dd25 No.685334
>>685265
>I'm a disabled vet
Thank you for your service to Israel, o warrior of zion
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49ec93 No.685336
>>670462
if an 8 gauge works on the Flood it's fine by me.
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179e5a No.685351
>>685334
You're welcome, but my war had nothing to do with Isreal.
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fb0439 No.685354
>>685351
You served before ww1?
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179e5a No.685361
>>685354
My wars were small incursions on many continents. Stuff you prolly never heard of.
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0f4399 No.685367
Any comments on Hatsen Escort?
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445f25 No.685389
Mossberg 500 is perfectly fine for a first shotgun, right? Sure it can be compared with others but if I were to get one I wouldn't be going wrong with it, would I? Thinking once I get my own place I'd probably go with the M500.
Probably also put on some tacticool mods like tritium sights so I can LARP as the master chief.
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4a5202 No.685390
>>685389
Throw a rail on it and a decent red dot on it.
>>685367
Turk shit, hit or miss overall.
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445f25 No.685407
>>685390
like a red dot sight with a small glass optic or whatever? or just a red dot iron sight? nofuns here so you'll have to forgive me.
and why would a red dot be better than regular sights for a shotgun? just curious
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4a5202 No.685408
>>685407
>red dot sight with a small glass optic
Yes, that would be a red dot. Vortex and Bushnell are alright brands to look at.
>red dot be better than regular sights for a shotgun?
Same reason why they're great on anything else, quicker target acquisition. Makes you think you're cheating at skeet. Just be sure it can handle the whump of a shotgun though.
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a1225d No.685442
>>685408
Thanks. I'll take that into consideration. Going skeet shooting with a friend soon as well.
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4e9053 No.685464
>>685361
So Grenada and south american drug wars.
You served the jews.
Everything during and since the civil war was a kike war.
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fb0439 No.685489
So I got this thing a while back and I can't find any information about it. One side of the barrel says Armsport mod 2755 Miami FLA and the other says Atis Bresica Italy. So all I know is the fucker the was made in Italy
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179e5a No.685549
>>685464
Nope, wrong again. I told you, you probably never heard of them. Now go away, kid. I ain't talking about that shit, and you can't make me.
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fd220c No.685558
>>685549
Panama? I knew a fella that was a Marine in Panama, he took a piece of bone from a comrade's femur in his ankle when his mate got hit.
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fb0439 No.685565
>>685558
He said "small incursions on many continents" so Panama doesn't fit. In fact I don't know any fucking war that fits that bill unless he's larping as some glownigger.
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464dda No.685569
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4a5202 No.685570
>>685569
Do you like learning how that piece of crap works?
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464dda No.685571
>>685570
Yes, that the problem. I'm inexplicably drawn to obscure operating mechanisms
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4a5202 No.685580
>>685571
Go for it then. They take forever to break in and never really work properly.
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aa7bc4 No.686772
Anyone have experience with the FN SLP shotgun?
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186c3a No.686801
>>686772
IIRC, 99% of the FN SLP is interchangeable with the Mossberg 930. As a 930 owner, I would suggest looking at the SLP to see if the finish is not complete dogshit. My only complaint about the 930 is the finish.
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aa7bc4 No.686858
>>686801
So the FN SLP is just a complete waste of money then?
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9591c2 No.686910
This Beretta 1301 is the shit. I have about 600 shots down the tube (70/30 Target/Buck) without performing any maintenance, and it's run 100%. The operating system is strange. The bolt mechanism looks similar to those in my inertia guns, but it is gas-operated. The recoil impulse hits you hard like an inertia gun (Benelli M2), but it cycles extremely fast like a gas gun (Mossberg 930). Perhaps Beretta made a hybrid system? I'm unsure.
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2cfbed No.686932
>>670416
>You know, I've been around a little while, and I have never, not once, met someone who has been in a firefight who said they wished they had less ammo.
That doesn't mean that they had such poor fucking accuracy that they needed more than what they were carrying - of course when you're in a high risk, life or death situation you're gonna wish you had more ammo.
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8454c1 No.686946
Which would be a better option for a shotgun that a woman could use and not totally fuck it up? A lightly loaded 12 gauge or a 20 gauge? I've honestly never shot a 20 gauge before, so I don't know how the recoil compares. Don't see why a low-brass 12 gauge with the same number of #4 buckshot pellets as in a 20 gauge wouldn't have roughly the same recoil but I might be missing something – like ammo availability.
Girlfriend was worried about the place we're moving to (it's fine but I want an excuse to buy a new gun) so I told her we'd get a shotgun for when I'm not there. Basically just want a relatively cheap and effective weapon for when I'm not there with my concealed carry. Technically I have a sketch as fuck M1916 Spanish Mauser she could use but I'd rather not. Plus, I just want a shotgun.
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186c3a No.686950
>>686946
A 20 gauge shotgun will do just fine for anyone with a smaller frame. Remember that your own mass does have an effect on how much felt recoil there is.
I'm not a huge fan of low velocity stuff, but I own a 930 so I have my reasons that may not apply to you. You do you, but I'd recommend you take her to a range and rent a 12 and a 20 gauge. Both of you shoot them and decide based off that.
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8454c1 No.686951
>>686950
I planned on getting a pump.
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8454c1 No.686952
>>686951
>>686950
Accidentally hit reply. Depends on the rent cost but I may do that. Honestly might just end up getting a 20 gauge maverick 88 because poorfag in school. Otherwise, I'll just get the 20 gauge and give it to my kid when I have one and get a 12 gauge later.
Just wasn't sure if it would be a better idea to get a 12 gauge for the versatility and then just put a light load in it. Again, I'm a poorfag so I like versatility.
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186c3a No.686957
>>686952
20 gauge will do 85% of what 12 can, you just need some practice with it.
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0d8fff No.686970
>>673439
You can get used 500s for under $200 all day every day.
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621a16 No.687021
>>686858
No because its an FN so that makes it a better gun.
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bb79d8 No.687303
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fb0439 No.687757
>>685489
Pretty good gun overall, but it's strange that it has a 7 round tube with such a long barrel. Usually a shotgun with a barrel of that length is meant for hunting and would have a lower capacity.
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99a618 No.687841
>>686932
>of course when you're in a high risk, life or death situation you're gonna wish you had more ammo.
So… you're agreeing with me.
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