/k/ - Weapons

>>640568

Chinks can't own guns since they'd use them on their masters, so why would there be bootlegs when the bugmen aren't involved?

>>640568

Norinco is infamous for making copies of shit like the Uzi, Mp5 and AR's. Everything else they hilariously got the tooling and prints for properly.

>>640569 Please read >>640572

Norinco really wasn't so bad in terms of build quality. Some of their AK type weapons were really top notch. The M14 clones are also pretty good. The shotguns imported now can be a little iffy, but once you break them in they're at least on par with the Turkish imports.

Do you only define bootleg as unlicensed? Because there are lots of companies like Armscor and Taurus making cheaper, licensed copies of firearms. Unlicensed stuff I'm not so familiar with since lawyers keep that stuff out of the US generally.

>>640583

Fun fact only their M14 receivers are to USGI spec. On the topic of licensed products I know H&K flipped shit when they started to make Mp5's, dunno what IWI's response to their Uzi was found it funny that before the AWB norinco used to bring those in with a bayonet lug.

M1903 Springfield?

Japanese Type 89 might count. Howa was originally a manufacturer for AR18s (and a damn fine one accord to all I've read) so they had the full technical package and tooling for them. When Japan was looking for new rifle they (seem to) have basically shrugged, acknowledged they have no gun designers in the country, didn't want to pull a Britain, and accepted an AR18 with a few changes (biggest being that it takes STANAG mags). Of course by this time the patents had expired so if it even counts as a bootleg is questionable.

>>640598

I know Type 56s differ simply because they're AKs, but even the ARs?

>>640583

"Unlicensed" has a lot of implications when nearly every gun is based on some now-expired JMB or Armalite patents if it wasn't dervied from some Soviet shit. That's not even counting stuff like the 1911/M1 Garand/M1 Carbine/AR where you can get the specs from the US government over the original makers.

>>640568

In Spain there were counterfeit smith and wesson (model 3 I think?) revolvers owing to the fact that most companies never patented their designs in Spain. Also Miroku's small revolvers from the 70s were high quality but not an indigenous design.

>>640684

Oh, and I forgot of this Vice documentary. I miss when they actually did interesting stuff worth watching.

>>640684

That's very clearly a stamped receiver. It doesn't have the lightening cut and its full of rivets.

>>640694

That's from the forum I got the pics from, just fyi.

>>640684

The arms industry there isn't nearly as robust as it used to be. The government has been giving financial incentives to adopt other industries and increased monitoring of the firearms producing areas in an attempt to slow the flow of weapons to the Taliban in Pakistan. Dharra was one of the larger suppliers. Of course plenty of guns are still made there, but the times they are a changing.

Source: Talking to locals over the internet.

>>640694

If you look at the mag well dimple you can see where it has been milled.

>>640751

>The government has been giving financial incentives to adopt other industries

Like what? There's not a whole lot you can build out of metal by hand that is as profitable as firearms.

>>640767

A lot is just non-machining businesses entirely. In Dharra you will now find grocery stores and electronics shops taking the place where gun stores used to be. It's kind of turning into a general market town rather than a just guns town.