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There's no discharge in the war!

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591e8f No.523316

/k/ how come the development of aerospace or more specifically fighter jets have come to a sluggish slowdown. Considering that there were many developments and manufacturers. What slows us now?

111e63 No.523326

>>523316

No wars.


b4c409 No.523337

>>523316

>What slows us now?

When in doubt blame the niggers.


c8807c No.523338

>>523316

because in the future you will only need 1 jet that will serve in all roles possible -_-


92a783 No.523349

>>523316

You don't need a billion dollar jet when all you are doing is bombing brown people in the middle east with ex-Soviet equipment from the 70s.


0ab293 No.523363

No reason to.

Next generation of fighters will be Skylon-like spaceplanes.


b7fb1b No.523367

>>523316

Lockheeb Martin.


57002a No.523381

I have no idea, but blaming kikes is probably the way to go.


626df7 No.523407

>>523316

Lack of an adversary, I'd wager. Since you don't have to outdo the Soviets anymore there isn't a real incentive to spend in aircraft development. Add to that bureaucracy and corruption.

I honestly don't know what will become of the US if they end up fighting a war against an enemy that has a decent AA infrastructure.


424d45 No.523409

>>523316

>What slows us now?

Tons of things, from the financial system itself to the government spending on niggers.


fb0699 No.523539

>>523316

Same reason why small arms, tanks and pretty much everything else has slowed down since 1980: most of the relevant technologies have long matured to the point that there's nothing left to improve. Until some major breakthrough in engines, materials, etc. comes along, the only areas where we have any real room to improve are avionics and stealth.


68d800 No.523581

>>523539

> Until some major breakthrough in engines, materials, etc. comes along

Can materials really be improved at this point?

We have discovered all reasonably elements for nearly a century now so how better can alloys get?

The only hope for advancement now is mass producing monomolecular carbon structures like graphene or some new methods of economically viable conversion of titanium oxide into metallic titanium


68d800 No.523582

>>523581

reasonably stable elements*


c8807c No.523595

>>523581

>Can materials really be improved at this point?

everything can be ALWAYS improved


fb0699 No.523668

>>523581

Lightweight aluminum steel alloys look like they'll be the next big thing. If those ever become viable, then airframe costs will plummet and high-speed designs will become a lot more feasible.


cbccac No.523723

>>523668

>Lightweight

>steel

How?


7351ec No.523750


cbccac No.523770

>>523750

Interesting but:

>reports (((The Economist)))

>developed by (((South Korean))) scientists

I'll have to see it before believing it.


c33e1f No.525349

Thread was over when >>523326 dropped by.

Better late than never: /thread.


204033 No.525354

>>523581

>Can materials really be improved at this point?

structurally yes, engine wise unless they find a replacement for Rhenium there won't be much more efficient engines unless someone gets wise.

To tell you how rare that material is, 1 ton of copper gives you 1 gram of rhenium.

hell we're also running out of neodymium so electric power fags are going to cry their eyes out. Indium as well so no more capacitive touch screens in a decade or two

tl;dr we've pushed most known physical properties to the very limit and we are running out of them.

>>523770

>>523668

The paper was published a while ago

It isn't that the steel is "light" it's that it has the same strength to mass of Titanium.

So not only is it going to be cheap, you aren't going to need alot of it to do what you need to do since it's denser.


2ecdaa No.525364

>>523770

OK basically Soviets mixed steel and aluminum to come up with a titanium substitute because their submarines were eating up the titanium stocks. 30 years later a peninsula chink patented it, and now we're all going to have armored Daewoos.

Pretty sweet.


204033 No.525367

>>525364

>OK basically Soviets mixed steel and aluminum to come up with a titanium substitute because their submarines

Wasn't it brittle as shit and you couldn't form it into anything?


8f1f68 No.525368

>>525354

>there won't be much more efficient engines unless someone gets wise

A fucking leaf canuck here had an idea that sounds simple and smart: combine the pulsejet and the (sc)ramjet into one engine, use the pulsejet mode to accelerate, then switch to ramjet. It seems to be the kind of invention that is very simple to produce once all the R&D is done, but you will need to make teams of engineers go insane during the project.

>>525364

>>525367

The steel-aluminium alloy forms crystals that are similar to titanium, but the soviets couldn't find a way to form them consistently, so their "alloy" was just a mess of steel and aluminium with some pretty neat crystals in it. Now the gooks found a way to make the whole alloy into uniform crystals, so it actually works.


204033 No.525370

>>525368

I'm aware of how HSSS works, I was pretty sure the Soviet version of it was just brittle as shit.

I also thought of the pulsejet ramjet idea and the problem with it is fuel consumption. You won't get anywhere with the little thrust you get from the pulsejet might not be enough to move a large aircraft off the ground and the ramjet is a glutton for fuel on it's own but needs atleast a 300mph speed for it to start "looking efficient"

The best way to deal with it right about now is gearing, intercooling (for that delta T) and recuperators (to just reuse the heat so you can comsume less fuel).

the last two are already used for turbine powerplants and ships but mass has made it an issue for aircraft, with gearing you need less stages for compression and bypass and you can make up the rest with just a better temperature difference and cheaper materials.


2ecdaa No.525374

>>525367

The oldest alloy is, we don't have knowledge of research since then.

>>525368

>soviets couldn't find a way to form them consistently

This is assuming they made the invention in 1970 and did zero research on it from then to 2015.

Remember Russian scientific journals aren't always published in the west.


204033 No.525380

>>525374

If they did pull it off they wouldn't be as broke as they are now or using as much titanium as they're still using.

I don't think they've been sitting still on their brittle steel aluminum alloy, I think they just weren't as successful as the moonrune guy is all.


55d904 No.525455

>>525367

Apparently there have been recent developments with fixing the flaws in that kind of alloy. The last article I read on the topic mentioned adding a tiny bit of nickel was the way to go.


2ecdaa No.525457

>>525380

Russia is the worlds largest titanium exporting country. Introducing a cheap and common alternative would be like Switzerland supporting cash-only transaction, Saudi Arabia introducing a solution to peak oil, or der Jude introducing an affordable replacement for graft.

I'll bet you anything the moment this pygmy's alloy leaves his lab and enters the actual market, the first thing we'll see is that several years after it becomes available on aliexpress Russia will enter the same exact market with a sliiiiiiiiightly different alloy mix that does the same thing.




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