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HUD Weapons Strelok 09/25/17 (Mon) 05:43:47 b85752 No.518562

I remember being made fun of a few years ago on halfchan for saying that HUD-mounted guns were a bad idea. But the more I read about them in concepts/proposals and hear about well fleshed out iterations in fiction, the more I think I was actually right.

This video I'm embedding is sci-fi, but it's a pretty fleshed out description of tactics and inner workings of an IR tracking LMG, the M56A2, from the Alien franchise. This description could play make for a good thought experiment to discuss this.

I'm sure that one could argue "well since most of the devices on him are hardpoints and small and only get destroyed if they are shot dead anyway so doesn't matter", but the point is that the possibility for failure is there. It could go wrong at any critical moment.

http://soldiersystems.net/2017/05/24/us-army-introducing-heads-up-display-with-tactical-augmented-reality/

Bu maybe I'm wrong, what do you guys think about their practicality?

Strelok 09/25/17 (Mon) 18:36:18 56a425 No.518644

>>518562

They aren't practical. There's no point in loading up an infantry solider in kilos of gear, thousands of dollars of equipment, when it doesn't increase kill probability much, and what happens when that solider is eventually shot and the gear is lost? Morale and money gone.

Strelok 09/25/17 (Mon) 23:47:23 474c59 No.518712

>army

>which is unwillin to pay a few hundred per soldier for a better rifle

>will dish out tens of thousands per soldiers for gadgets

Retarded as fuck.

Strelok 09/26/17 (Tue) 00:06:01 49f29a No.518716

I think the easiest way would be for a HUD to track rounds fired instead of rounds remaining. That's just a simple matter of attaching a burst ratchet like gear to a small 7 point display, then rigging up a way to reset it to zero when a mag is released or when one is inserted (either would work). It beats trying to keep track of the magazine's current capacity somehow.

Strelok 09/26/17 (Tue) 00:17:29 149ab3 No.518720

>>518712

>better

Cost-effectiveness is key, anon. They have something that's been in service and has been improved for decades, It takes more than a different chassis and minimal advantages to get anything changed.

There's a reason why we went from the 1861 Springfield to the 1873 Trapdoor Springfield and waited all the way to ~1904 before formally adopting a repeating rifle. We're cheap fucks that overpay for anything military-related and stockpile shit we now can never get rid of.

We won't ditch the M4 for some slightly different take on the M4, but we'll slap more shit on the M4 rifles we already have.

>unwilling to pay a few hundred per soldier

>Army

The US Army is the most coddled branch second to the chair force, anon.

Strelok 09/26/17 (Tue) 00:57:52 474c59 No.518727

>>518720

In what way is M4 an improvement on M16?

Strelok 09/26/17 (Tue) 01:04:28 12a723 No.518730

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>>518644

>thousands of dollars

It should cost >$60, fuck, >$40 to glue a chinky screen, battery, microprocessor and sensors to make a simple thing like >>518716 said. Even less if they mass produce the things.

Strelok 09/26/17 (Tue) 01:05:37 149ab3 No.518732

>>518727

It's more portable.

Are you going to be a pedant and fetch charts or statistics?

Strelok 09/26/17 (Tue) 01:11:40 474c59 No.518736

>>518730

>pixel density found nowhere else

>$40

>>518732

And pays for that by being about as useful as a .22wmr rifle. With less reliability.

Good trade, considering better SBRs are avaioable.

Strelok 09/26/17 (Tue) 01:59:04 60e0a7 No.518745

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>>518720

>we went from the 1861 Springfield to the 1873 Trapdoor Springfield and waited all the way to ~1904 before formally adopting a repeating rifle

I'm reasonably sure you may be forgetting something.

Strelok 09/26/17 (Tue) 02:07:15 149ab3 No.518748

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>>518736

>And pays for that by being about as useful as a .22wmr rifle.

What?

>With less reliability.

Are you referencing fuckup marines who magdumped their entire supply into the sand with unlubed rifles and went to the paper about how they stopped?

>Good trade, considering better SBRs are avaioable.

There are. Definitely. But we have enough M4 rifles than we know what to do with and replacing it would only push us deeper into debt.

>>518745

My point was that the Springfield Trapdoor was the mainstay of the ground forces, the Krag supplementing despite being labeled as standard issue, up until we finally retired it for good in exchange for a standardized repeater.

Strelok 09/26/17 (Tue) 02:08:35 321536 No.518750

>>518730

>It should cost >$60,

lmao

Strelok 09/26/17 (Tue) 02:27:33 49f29a No.518755

>>518716

>>518730

You'd also need a button or switch to turn the display off (for night op ect.). If you're feeling fancy, you can put a bit of memory (it's just a number and some text, 1MB would be overkill. 1GB would be more than enough even if the government wanted to attach some encryption and write protection to it so only armorers could touch it.) and a micro-USB slot on it so it keeps track of total rounds fired. If you're really fancy you can add a clock (only configurable by USB connection) and keep track of when/how many were fired. That would be a huge boon for maintence to know how often and how long something has been fired.

Real question is where to put it. In line with the sights is distracting as hell, anything you need to flip the gun to use is useless, left/right side of the gun is a storage/slinging nightmare, flip out would be prone to damage (though could be fixed with some engineers).

Strelok 09/26/17 (Tue) 16:25:41 474c59 No.518862

>>518748

Actually its less useful than a .22wmr which could pack more rounds for cheaper.

>Are you referencing fuckup marines who magdumped their entire supply into the sand with unlubed rifles and went to the paper about how they stopped?

No I'm referencing the fact that the shortened gas system and shortened barrel makes the rifle useless. There's a reason the first fucking modifications were thickening the barrel, and second was making it longer…. in another few modifications it will look like M16 again! There's a reason C8 phase in was abandoned at 1/4 its production run and the remaining rifles distributed to cops.

tl;dr Robert Scales.