/islam/ - 8kun Masjid

Do you nofap?

>>43071

I'm married.

>>43071

Yes, there are times when I give in but I go months without fapping. The longest I’ve made it is 2 years. The first 2 weeks are the hardest when starting out, then it is still hard the first month. After that it gets easier, you just have to keep at it and stay committed.

>>43113

>Why God didn't create most men attractive

You want to be attracted to men?

>>43119

No. I'm asking about the discrepancy between men and women attractiveness.

>>43120

Oh, you mean like your chart? Well, that's generally meaningless. Men seek physical stimulus while women seek emotional stimulus. Women don't see men the way men see women.

>>43121

Women seek physical stimulus as well.

>>43113

>Say, ˹O Prophet,˺ “If your parents and children and siblings and spouses and extended family and the wealth you have acquired and the trade you fear will decline and the homes you cherish—˹if all these˺ are more beloved to you than Allah and His Messenger and struggling in His Way, then wait until Allah brings about His Will. Allah does not guide the rebellious people.” - At-Tawbah:24

your problem is similar to materialism, it's your problem for being obsessed with money, either you rich or poor you shouldn't get depressed over it

the only thing we should be depressed about is for not being able to serve Allah, that's the entire purpose of our creation, other than that is irrelevant

>>43113

You can find some women that are not entirely interested in what you look like. They are more interested in how firm you are in the deen and how good of a provider you will be for them. You just have to be patient and look for these types of women.

>>43121

So you are saying women don't consider men attractive or unattractive and choose their mates based upon such things? That is nonsense.

>>43136

His post had nothing to do with money.

>>43142

>bringing a person from overseas for mating purposes

We call that "sex trafficking", son.

>>43147

>Finding a wife overseas that will then travel back with you to your home country.

We call that "marriage", son.

He was obviously talking about that since he later said >as the women there are modest and shy, and often look more for a man who can provide rather than looks.

Grow up.

Is islam pro-globalist?

>>43204

Globalism: the operation or planning of economic and foreign policy on a global basis.

So … yes. Islam is globalist since the whole globe belongs to Allah.

>>43206

To christians they see us as the religion that will help evil globalist establish the one world religion&goverment. I do not accept an one world goverment myself as it under its own weight becomes always corrupt and hostile to muslims

>>43208

I would accept Islam as the one world religion.

Is stock investing halal? under halal conditions

>>43245

https://www.saturna.com/amana/halal-investing

>>43246

how about cryptocurrency?

Whats your best response to an athiest

argument:

"There('s) more than 2000+ Gods/religion's worshipped by humanity but yours is true??

Any argument againts that

Why do a good number of Muslims pretend as if there is a clash of Western 'Christians' vs Muslims when, in reality, said 'Christians' (though nominally via baptism), are cynical or atheist liberal elites who want to invade the Islamic world? Either for economic reasons or because of their liberal ideology, e.g feminism.

Example of this is where people draw parallels to Middle Eastern wars to the Crusades. They have no comparison whatsoever. George Bush might pander to Baptists for their weird zionist eschatology, but could you really say he was a Godfrey of Bouillon? Lol.

>>43253

What in the world are you babbling on about?

>>43249

You just have to be careful with any investment. You should invest in a way that protects your future and not use it as a get-rich-quick gambling proxy. I don't think there's anything haram about crypto itself, but you might want to research the coin you're investing in to make sure it's not from a haram source.

>>43252

>arguing with atheists

To that question I just say, "Yes" and move on.

>>43255

Yeah I am aware of the day trading thing. Long term investing is what I am going to prefer.

>>43055

whats the ruling on binance&investing in crypto and holding/buying crypto?

>>43208

>I do not accept an one world goverment myself as it under its own weight becomes always corrupt and hostile to muslims

Don't you know what a caliphate is?

>>43136

thank you

In the christian faith one of the things explained as being the origin of the races is that Black people/Africans are descended from Ham, Semites by shem, and others by Japeth. (there may be a fourth I cannot remember), and I was wondering, is there a similar concept in Islam wherein the races have different origins from different individuals (who of course take heed from Adam and eve), and what does the Quran and Hadith say about this?

And no, I am not a racist. Just curious..

In the christian faith one of the things explained as being the origin of the races is that Black people/Africans are descended from Ham, Semites by shem, and others by Japeth. (there may be a fourth I cannot remember), and I was wondering, is there a similar concept in Islam wherein the races have different origins from different individuals (who of course take heed from Adam and eve), and what does the Quran and Hadith say about this?

And no, I am not a racist. Just curious..

>>43321

sorry for double post guys just realized

This probably does deserve its own thread, but what sources do we have about Aisha's age? I keep hearing from non-believers that she was nine when she married the Prophet (pbuh), but I've also heard that there's no scholarly agreement about he age and that Shia Hadith say she was 18. It's all really confusing, so could you guys unpack this for me?

>>43321

I was raised Christian, and I never heard of any of this. I think that might be a Mormon belief, which wouldn't be accepted by any mainstream Christian.

>>43321

Allah created all races and colors, so no, we have nothing like that.

what is your saying on profiting off fictional smut/erotica that is drawn cartoons/3d CGI or written fanfiction and does not include rl people? i know it can be indecent and sinful to indulge in but i cannot see it as haram as rl adultery/prostitution and sex trafficking. since you're just taking commisions to do fanarts of fictional characters assuming that the characters depicted are consenting adults and married.

>>43379

Depictions of sex/pornography is haram. There are no loopholes to that.

>>43142

lol this sounds like some /r/TheRedPill nonsense

>>43321

I disagree with some of these people.. I have heard people talk about hadiths discerning between descendants of Abraham/Ibrahim and others… descendants of Muhammad sallalahu alayhi wassalam… etc..

the whole "juj-majooj" prophecy etc.. it really depends on who you talk to..

There are muslims that have only read the Quran, but are completely faithful in various parts of various hadith even though they haven't really studied it.. and then there are muslims that haven't even read the Quran and live their life by hadith.. and then there are muslims who've read it all and dismiss the hadith as blaspheme… (the last group is generally shunned, yet the Quran itself states that you should need no other book as the Quran is itself perfect, complete and interpretable by all, ie no add'l interpretative guides necessary)

>>43401

>and then there are muslims who've read it all and dismiss the hadith as blaspheme… (the last group is generally shunned, yet the Quran itself states that you should need no other book as the Quran is itself perfect, complete and interpretable by all, ie no add'l interpretative guides necessary)

>the last group is generally shunned

You are right. STFU Quranist, you're not welcome here.

>>43434

>STFU Quranist, you're not welcome here.

That was uncalled for. Nothing he said was wrong.

>>43435

>and then there are muslims who've read it all and dismiss the hadith as blaspheme… (the last group is generally shunned, yet the Quran itself states that you should need no other book as the Quran is itself perfect, complete and interpretable by all, ie no add'l interpretative guides necessary)

He said that the hadith are dismissed as blaspheme by a group, then went on to say that group is in the right.

>>43436

He didn't say the group was in the right.

>>43401

>there are muslims who've read it all and dismiss the hadith

This is a true fact.

>(the last group is generally shunned

This is a true fact.

>the Quran itself states that you should need no other book

This is a true fact.

Nothing says "I agree with this". It is merely stating true facts.

>>43438

The Quran itself says that it isn't the only authority.

[4:59] O ye who believe! Obey Allah, and obey the Messenger, and those charged with authority among you. If ye differ in anything among yourselves, refer it to Allah and His Messenger

This means that we have to take the hadith into account. You cannot use ONLY the Quran, that is what Quranists do. They are not only refuted by countless hadith (statements that are not blasphemes) they are refuted by the Quran itself.

He says that there are >no add'l interpretative guides necessary.

That is not a fact. That is a load of Quranist bull🤬. You cannot have Islam without the Sunnah.

>>43440

Qur'an does, in fact, state on many occasions that it alone is the authority. This is fact.

https://www.quran-islam.org/articles/a_dozen_reasons_(P1153).html

Now, it ALSO says to obey the Messenger and to seek guidance in matters of law, but Qur'an is clear that it is perfect and complete. Do you disagree with this?

>>43443

I love how you call everyone "Quranist". Is that this board's "JIDF"?

>>43445

The link you posted says in its first point to reject all hadith and to follow the Quran alone. That is the f*cking definition of a Quranist. GTFO you kaffir.

>>43446

>GTFO you kaffir.

Rule 6.

>>43447

This board is not for Quranists, Ahmadiyyah, or the Nation of Islam.

Rule 1.

Because you are kufar.

Quranists and Ahmadiyyah can go to their board

https://8kun.top/modernislam/index.html

(it's dead, just like your ideology is inside)

>>43449

I never said I was a Quranist. You decided that all on your own.

>This board is not for Quranists, Ahmadiyyah, or the Nation of Islam.

Except, you know, rule 4.

>>43479

Eh, they seem inclusive and generally kind to people and the environment. Their religion is wrong, but at least it guides them to do good in the world and that's important.

>>43498

>hates Iran

>bashing shi'a

>uses term "anti christ"

Christian pretending to be wahabbi gtfo.

Would anyone be interested in hearing the Qur'an recited by me? Here's me reciting Al-Ikhlas

https://vocaroo.com/1bKDuQ4h2bsg

>>43530

I'm interested

>>43530

Make a thread!

How do people on here view the movement of Quranism/Quraniyoon? That is, the view that the Quran alone is sufficient as is, and which rejects all Hadith regardless of reliability.

>>43543

The quran is the word of Allah, and that is the ultimate authority of Islam. Mohammed is a messenger and as such he can misinterpret the poetry or forget things as he is still susceptible to human error. The hadith, “And were it not for Eve, no woman would ever betray her husband” is a contridiction of Quran 7:19 to 7:23 which places blame on both Adam and Eve. Hadiths are also retellings, and while they can be in truth, all are certain to be in truth and are susceptible to the same human errors of forgetfulness and misinterpretation. Hope this helps.

>>43544

I meant all are not certain to be in truth lol

>>43544

Fellow Believer,

There is never any contradiction between the Qur'an and a true and faithfully-narrated Hadith. The Prophet's words can never contradict the Qur'an. If there is any apparent contradiction between a Hadith and the Qur'an, then the error is either in the one narrating the Hadith, or in the reader's own understanding.

>>43480

>>43479

Its an VERY VERY DANGEROUS cult. the founder of that cult claimed he was divine(allah) wich is kufr, he then went to israel to avoid prosection and then commanded his followers to establish an 1 world government. THIS CULT IS 1000X DANGEROUS THAN FATULLAH GULLEN!!. a jew whisper'd in that he should found an cult, and claim hes divine.

>>43479

further more the cult of (baha'ullah) was created during the british colonial period wich the cult was intended more as an powertool of control and serving the interest of Zionism and the colonists. by making an control building in israel they could overtime control arabs in the region

>>43543

They're not properly following Islam. To reject hadith is to reject Qur'an.

Hello my brothers, I keep hearing that pedophilia is accepted and you need to kill all kuffars, is this true? Would like sources

>>43570

Hello FBI agent, please leave us alone

>>43571

I think you have mistaken me for an FBI agent

>>43570

>is this true?

No.

>>43543

They're kuffar.

I play the guitar since I am 9 years old, would I need to stop if I were to revert?

Got my first Moderna shot today. You can hardly feel the microchip.

>>43544

Denying the Sunnah of Muhammad(pbuh) is denying Allah, not even shia treat it that way.

>He who obeys the Messenger has obeyed Allah [4:80]

>And obey Allah and the Messenger that you may obtain mercy. [3:132]

>It is not for a believing man or a believing woman, when Allah and His Messenger have decided a matter, that they should [thereafter] have any choice about their affair. And whoever disobeys Allah and His Messenger has certainly strayed into clear error. [33:36]

Allah ensures his prophets understand the revelation and protects them from the kind of mistakes you mentioned so they may guide who they are meant to guide, this case isn't just with Muhammad(pbuh), it's for every prophet. Of course Allah will make the final prophet to humanity do a perfect work.

>This day I have perfected for you your religion and completed My favor upon you and have approved for you Islam as religion [5:3]

The meaning of the Hadith is Eve eat first which made Adam incline to eat or that Adam eat first and she didn't advise him not to deciding to sin with him. Either way Adam and Eve together have wronged themselves. Muhammad(pbuh) never contradicts the Qur'an, kaffir.

The Qur'an and Sunnah are revelation from Allah, that's agreed upon.

>By the star when it descends,

>Your companion [i.e., Muḥammad] has not strayed, nor has he erred,

>Nor does he speak from [his own] inclination.

>It is not but a revelation revealed, [53:1-4]

You can't pray or understand the Qur'an without the Sunnah.

>>43586

There are some musicians on /islam/. I think the BO is a ukulele player?

>>43598

>Muhammad(pbuh) never contradicts the Qur'an, kaffir.

Friendly reminder that Takfir is, A) against the rules of this board, and B) a grave sin that can threaten your entry into Jannah.

The anon you're replying to has not committed any act of kufr (yet), he is just grossly misinformed. Let's treat this as a teachable moment.

¿how do we stop people killing other people in the name of islam?

>>43654

By constantly reminding Muslims that murder is a sin.

>>43655

Take your /pol/ garbage somewhere else.

>>43656

I just want to know. Christianity is legitimately pro-jewish. Is Islam too? Simple question, no strings attached

>>43657

We don't see them as "the jews" because each is an individual. In general, however, we treat anyone who believes in the oneness of God with respect. Religious Jews believe in God's oneness, as said in Torah, "Hear, o Israel, thy God is one." (Deuteronomy 6:4) Otherwise, we treat them like we do anyone else. If they attack us, we defend ourselves. If they leave us alone, we leave them alone.

However, if one Jew attacks us, we don't see it as "all jews attack us!"

>>43658

So you don't actively support Jews. But if I told you orthodox Jews are spreading degeneracy, you'd recognize them as enemies? I'm being purely hypothetical here, of course

>>43660

>you don't actively support Jews

None that I know of. Wait, sometimes I give my jewish friend a ride if he needs it. He doesn't have a car.

>if I told you orthodox Jews are spreading degeneracy

My immediate reaction would be "which ones?" Because, see, just because some orthodox do something doesn't mean all orthodox do that thing. We get it all the time, too. Since some tribes of Muslims in Africa cut little girl's clits out, it somehow means Islam condones it. Or that time some Saudis flew a couple planes into some buildings and suddenly ALL Muslims are terrorists/jihadists/durka durkas.

If you're here to try to "drop some redpills", you should know that we have been an enemy of /pol/ since /pol was created and that sort of behavior isn't allowed on this board.

>>43661

Well there's always exceptions to the stereotypes. But as I see it, Islam does not promote degeneracy. So you're pretty alright I guess

>>43662

Kinda depends on what you consider "degeneracy". I'm sure there are things we tolerate that others may think of as "degeneracy" - for example, Islam recognizes transgender people and some Muslim nations actually pay for hormone therapy and surgery since it is considered a treatable affliction.

But if you mean pornography, drunkenness, etc, then yeah, that sort of thing is against Islamic teachings. It's also against Orthodox Jewish teachings, which is why we wouldn't say something like "the jews promote degeneracy" because Judaism does not condone degeneracy.

How to get rid of homosexual tendencies?

>>43680

Same way you get rid of any sexual tendencies. You just train yourself not to think about it. It takes, and I'm sorry for this, EFFORT. You actually have to commit to it, though I'm not sure why you would. There's no such thing as a "thought crime". You can fantasize all you want as long as you don't act on it.

>>43683

I don't know. We tend to not participate in oppression olympics. I suppose a lot of folks hate us, but it's not a race to the bottom.

>>43681

I want to get rid of it completely, not just forget. I feel guilty. Fantasizing about it leads to masturbation and p*rn.

>>43685

Well, it takes effort and commitment to end thoughts. Although, uh, masturbation isn't haram. It's discouraged, but it isn't a major sin or anything. Porn, however, should be avoided as it is haram to look at another man's genitals or the genitals of a woman who is not your wife. So, avoid porn. It isn't difficult to do that.

>>43686

I can't although I'm fasting. Guess something is wrong with me.

>>43687

Nothing wrong with you. Everybody sins and everybody struggles. Just gotta do your best.

>>43683

Yes it's True

I want to convert to Islam but I really don't want to have a beard. What do I do? Also what's the point of a beard, if you aren't gonna, have one in Jannah anyway?

>>43706

So, you don't want to convert to Islam. You want a religion that will cater to you instead of you having to follow it.

>>43686

Masturbation IS haram

>>43708

No, it isn't. Declaring haram that which is not haram is haram, however. Stop buying the Christian hoax. You're allowed to touch your own body, no part of which is forbidden to you.

>>43709

>Is drawing haram

No. There are even stories of prophets doodling in the dirt with a stick.

>consensus among salafis

Yeah, well, consensus among <1% of Muslims doesn't speak for all of Islam.

>>43710

I really want to believe that, but I dont want to cheap down the religion to my desires. Ive seen convincing arguments from both sides, such as the hadeeth where the image maker was advised to "draw non-living things instead" of living things. As well as how others say how image making was made strict only because of idols at that time.

>>43707

Doesn't the shafi school say it's just disliked to shave the beard? It's not that I'm looking for a faith to cater to me, it's just that a beard is a deal breaker for me. Also I've read beards are just sunnah anyway.

>>43711

There have been many great Muslim artists throughout history, though you are correct to stay away from depictions of the prophets or of sinful actions - such as drawing pornography. - but, otherwise, it's not really a terrible thing. Some do say to avoid drawing humans in general, but the arguments against it are pretty weak. I've also seen arguments that non-lewd anime is acceptable because such creatures were never living in the first place. Perhaps you should pray earnestly on it and the answer will come.

>>43712

The beard is part of a man's hijab. You can trim it, yes, but there is no "just sunnah" in Islam. We follow the sunnah because Qur'an tells us to do so. You can't blow off the sunnah.

https://islamqa.info/en/answers/170012/ruling-on-the-purity-of-maniy-semen

Legit question, im not trolling:

Scholars say maniy (semen) is tahir (pure), does that mean a wife can swallow?

I always see muftis dance around the subject of oral sex, and its a bit of a grey area, despite there being no hadith or Quran verses on the topic, and seems to always boil down to an emotional answer of

>how could you put your mouth that you do dhikr with on something thats filthy

is there sharia evidence that a body part like the genitals are inherently filthy?

>>43719

If anything, I would think that swallowing is preferable to spitting. Wouldn't spitting nullify wudhu?

What is considered incest in Islam? There are different levels of family ties (sister, cousin, cousin of your cousin) and I was wondering if we can draw a line as to what is permissible and what isn't. My mother and father met each other through my aunt so I'm not sure if they had any ties before marriage.

>>43727

>I was wondering if we can draw a line as to what is permissible

No, we cannot. It is up to God, not us. God draws the line at siblings, parents, siblings of parents, etc. First cousins and beyond are acceptable, though your local laws may prohibit cousin marriage.

>>43713

Sooo, I have a question.

We know that Islam has very specific dress requirements for both men and women, but what of the mukhanathun? There is a whole third gender mentioned in the Hadith, but AFAIK there is nothing said about the modesty requirements of a mukhanath. Can I technically, just, wear anything I want? Is there any scholarly consensus on this?

>>43732

I don't recall reading anything about dress standards for mukhanathun, but if I were to guess - and it's a guess, I'm no scholar - then I would say to dress as modestly as possible, but don't transgress modesty.

Then again, all Arabic style clothing is pretty damn androgynous anyway. Men wear full length dresses, etc. So maybe adopt an Arabic style? Otherwise, I'd say just be comfortable and protect your modesty.

>>43713

>here have been many great Muslim artists throughout history…

Just because many Muslims have done it does not mean it isn't haram

>Some do say to avoid drawing humans in general, but the arguments against it are pretty weak.

Is Prophet Muhammed SAW proclaiming image makers are to be punished in hell a weak argument?

>>43736

>Is Prophet Muhammed SAW proclaiming image makers are to be punished in hell a weak argument?

Considering he let his wife keep horse carvings, yes I'd say that's a weak argument.

>>43738

Toys and debased images (pillows, rugs, mattresses) are exempt.

Paintings, statues, and drawings of animals are haram.

>>43739

op of >>43709 here,

I understand your position, regarding drawing humans, especially that hadith about one of the companions telling the image maker "to draw backgrounds or the like", indicating that the image maker used to draw humans and living things as we conventially understand. However, what im shaky about is, what harm is there to drawing if your intention is not to challenge god if at all? is it because you are creating objects that god originally created? if so, then god created trees, the sky, rocks and everything in between.

>but those are non-living!

no, trees, flowers, insects, flies, etc etc are all living beings as with the statement "all creation submits to him", key word "creation"

Is electricty challenging god because you are challenging god's source of light? or are we just approximating god's original creation? I just feel like all these ahadiths and legal

exegesis just make no sense at all

>>43741

Well, as far as I am concerned, drawing animals is prohibited because it was associated with rituals of the mushrikeen. But all in all, prohibition does not REQUIRE reason, as it is the command of allah.

I am willing to hear counter-arguments based on primary and scholarly sources.

>>43739

Goalpost Status: Moved

>>43743

I did not move any goalposts. I never claimed that all images were haram, I only referred to a hadith.

Actually, I have to ask, why do the BOs post cartoon images on the pinned threads? Even if they believe drawing people is not haram, the pictures would not be allowed to be posted in a masjid anyway.

>>43750

>tries to start up the image/cartoon debate again

lol

>>43754

Blame the person who asked if drawing was haram.

Do you think it's halal?

>>43755

See: >>11001

>For the purposes of this board, and until otherwise proven absolutely haram, tasteful non-lewd images of people, nature, and animals will be allowed.

Welcome to /islam/. This board's been here for 8 years with the same BO. You're not going to "rebel and take over".

Could somebody explain the meaning of this hadith?

>When I was a boy of five, I remember, the Prophet (ﷺ) took water from a bucket (used for getting water out of a well) with his mouth and threw it on my face.

Sahih al-Bukhari Nr 77

>>43768

He was playing with the kids by blowing water on their faces.

While I am aware that vinegar is permissible, are there certain types or methods of vinegar making that are actually haram?

>>43792

Vinegar contains alcohol, doesn't it? I thought it had to be made in a specific way to avoid it being Haram.

>>43793

>I thought it had to be made in a specific way to avoid it being Haram.

That's…what I am asking…

Also, AFAIK, all vinegars do contain 0.3% alcohol, but one cannot get drunk by consuming a lot of it.

>>43792

Balsamic vinegar is haram because it is made from grapes that became wine before processing into vinegar. However, vinegar made from apples, dates and other such fruit is halal provided no alcohol is added to the final product.

All fruits have naturally occurring alcohol, but it is inconsequential.

>>43795

For clarification, it the vinegar was make from a proper alcoholic beverage, it's haram, but if the alcohol is not made into a beverage, it is halal.

If vinegar from apples are halal, would *apple cider* vinegar still be haram?

>>43800

To my understanding, "apple cider vinegar" is made directly from apples and not from pre-fermented cider, however, brands may vary.

Decent article on the subject:

https://www.omninatural.co.uk/is-apple-cider-vinegar-halal

I know using siwak while fasting is allowed, but I heard mint flavored siwak aren't, so by this logic does flavored toothpaste break the fast?

>>43055

>>43443

quranists are JIDF employee's

>>43709

to my knowledge you CAN draw But you CANNOT draw living beings like humans or animals

>>43974

I don't bother trying to refute that which is basically retarded. Just shrug and move on.

>>43974

>sunni

>ahamdiya

Refutes itself.

>>44021

>Is there any islamic justification of wealth differences/social inequality?

Not really, no. All things belong to Allah - including wealth. If you accumulate wealth, so be it, but you must use it responsibly.

He is not a believer who eats his fill while his neighbour remains hungry by his side.

>>44022

so arab prince's wealth is frowned upon by Islam?

for some reason I thought islam had theological support for serf-lord society type. maybe it's my proyecting.

>>44039

You can be rich in Islam, as long as your wealth is from halal means and you pay the zakat, the problem is being a miser.

whats the islam posistion on trans-humanism? i heard pepole calling it satanic.

>>44061

I am fairly certain that trans-humanism/cyborgs fall into the "unnecessary changes to the body" category (like plastic surgery), therefore it is haram.

It's a terrible concept, to be frank; I would not be surprised if anyone says it is satanic.

>>44062

well in sweden they already have hand microchips that can be used for payments. plus the notorious World Economic Forum is planning the Fourth-Industrial revolution where man&machine will merge and push the transhumanism agenda

>>44063

WEF conspiracy theories are exaggerations worthy only for seniors on Facebook. Do not buy into that crap.

>>44063

A subcutaneous chip isn't really "transhumanism". It's basically on the level of carrying a bank card, but under your skin. It's a convenience, nothing more. It's also completely voluntary.

i just figured out recently that the quran describes heaven in a very medieval fashion. the wine, the meat, the fruit, the fancy palaces and the rivers that run beneath them. all of these blessings are heavily rooted in what the medieval people felt desirable and worthy of pursuit. (well except for the maidens which are a universal pleasure across all different cultures and times for the heterosexual man). with most of these activities having no real biological necessity to them and meant for pure pleasure and luxury. like drinking heavens wine and chilling in its sceneries. why would god depict his blessings as what the medieval man imagined as "heaven"?

the only satisfying workaround that i find is when god has stated "you may have whatever your hearts desire" in heaven. but that opens the pandora box to what is allowed and whats not. and whats constitutes a worthy pleasure and whats not. a sadist who derives pleasure from torturing people might decide to not act upon those temptations in this life and save them till he is in heaven. would that be even allowed? would god creates people designed for him to torture and please himself? and if thats not the case then why is the pleasure limited to those medieval activities? dont get me wrong i wouldn't trade heaven for hell obv but none of that actually interest me. not the food nor the drink and i would not even bother with the jewelry and gold. except for the maidens (again. the universal pleasure). i derive pleasure doing the hobbies i love. hanging out with my friends. playing video games. and cuddle with a cute gf. im a man born in the 21 century afterall. is that even possible in heaven?

>>44064

watch this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpW9JcWxKq0

they have made it clear "our body's will be so high-tech that we wont be able to distingush between artificial and non-artificial"

>>44062

well you come at an point where you have to choose between the convience that the majority has or be put at an disadvantage for those who refuse to get such things. you can already see this in pepole owning an phone and pepole not owning an phone

>>44071

Have you seen the whole video? They do not talk about transhumanism, they most they touch upon are medical procedures.

Most of these out-of-context quotes like "You will own nothing" and "our bodies will be so high tech" are loose conjectural statements that do not represent any "elite's plot".

Get over your paranoia.

>>44072

Nobody opposed smartphones because they do not have ethical dilemmas like transhumanism does. They are not comparable in that regard.

Besides, there are LOTS of people who oppose transhumanism anyways. These hypothetical "elites" are gonna have to work damn hard to convince us.

Is being ugly a test?

I hate captcha

>>44069

If Allah put all the possible activities in heaven and all answers regarding questions about heaven in Qur'an, it would be TOO long. I have questions as well about things that aren't openly declared halal or haram in possibilities of heaven and sadly we can't find out some answers until we get there. Things like socialization, PC games and intimacy are pretty common though, I don't see any reason it wouldn't be possible.

>>44073

>Nobody opposed smartphones because they do not have ethical dilemmas like transhumanism does. They are not comparable in that regard.

Besides, there are LOTS of people who oppose transhumanism anyways. These hypothetical "elites" are gonna have to work damn hard to convince us.

just like transgenderism has been normallized in the west what keeps them from normallizing that?

just watch they are talking about how religion is 'outdated'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3d8NthEFWow

>>44076

>just like transgenderism has been normallized in the west what keeps them from normallizing that?

Eugenics was a scientific topic that was entertained for a bit, but was soon shunned by the academic and scientist community for its unethical implications.

Lobotomies were a medical practice that involved hammering a spike up one's eye socket, and it was ceased after doctors pointed out how rubbish it was.

The same thing can happen with transhumanism.

>just watch they are talking about how religion is 'outdated'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3d8NthEFWow

While the WEF is not a concrete institution and the views in that video may not be shared by all of its associates, I concede that it is problematic that many of them entertain these ideas.

>>44078

it think the road to transhumanism and transhumanist-'enhancements' in general will be an graduall one where it likely starts with small simple primitive changes.

>>44073

>Have you seen the whole video? They do not talk about transhumanism, they most they touch upon are medical procedures.

>Most of these out-of-context quotes like "You will own nothing" and "our bodies will be so high tech" are loose conjectural statements that do not represent any "elite's plot".

>Get over your paranoia.

here's Klaus schwab executive&founder of WEF explaining what the 4th industrial-revolution is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xUk1F7dyvI

besides daniel haqiqtjou seems to be redpilled about WEF&build-back-better. it seems you are in the doubt/denail phase

>>44081

Not a damn thing Schwab says has anything to do with transhumanism. All Schwab talks about is how the fourth industrial revolution will come. At this point I don't think you even know what you are talking about.

Also, I do not care about about your authority's opinions if they are as rubbish as yours.

>>44066

but is it haram?

>>44082

from schwab 's interview video :

>Industrial Revolution will impact

>our lives completely it will not only

>change how we communicate how it would

>use how because you it will change

>actually Us our Own identity and of

>course gives life to such predecease and

>developments like smart traffic smart

>government smart cities what we will see

>s that everything will be integrated

>into a ecosystem driven by big data and

>driven particularly by close cooperation

>also of governments with business civil

>society and sisk evolution will come at

>a place taking speed it will be like a

>tsunami and actually it's not just a

>digital revolution it's digital of

>course physical is Nano-Technology but

>it's also Biological.

did you even play the whole video?

>>44089

I have played the whole video. You are bending his words.

"Biological" does not refer to cyborgs, it refers to medical practice (just like what that other video you posted said).

>>44095

>>44090

also i think they were REALLY SIRIOUS ABOUT : "You WILL OWN Nothing and you WIll be happy

>>44095

>>44096

I think you need to learn the difference between "From" and "To". This is an email TO Fauci FROM a meth-addicted loon Qtard. Fauci was wise to ignore it.

>>43055

this is not from Q or about Q.

>>44102

>copypasting an article about a 2005 laboratory study into the effectiveness of the drug chloroquine against the Sars coronavirus

>emailing it to Dr Fauci

>Using it as "proof" that zOMG FAUCI LIED!!

<not Q

Learn to do basic research. It's a junk email. Are you responsible for every email you receive?

>>44061

satan says

>I will command them so they will change the creation of Allah 4:119

so yes

>>44116

>change the creation of Allah

>life saving pacemakers are satanic

lol no

>>44117

People with pacemakers are not cyborgs

>>44118

So, we're moving the goalposts from "small chip in the hand" to "full blown cyborg"?

>>44119

That…is the end goal for transhumanism. It involves enhancing certain parts of the body beyond what is medically necessary.

>>44120

Ah, ok, I see where we're at now. I must have misread your intent. My bad!

>>44130

There's two types, those that are perverted men with a fetish (called Autogynephilia), or those who have a genetic or hormonal condition that makes them feminine or asexual. For example ppl born with dysfunctional genitals such as hermaphrodites, those usually pick the side they are closer to or what they feel they are. But that's so statistically rare, that most who believe they have dysphoria simply have Autogynephilia.

>>44130

Trans women aren't men imitating women. Trans women are women.

>>44131

Gender is a spectrum. It's not binary. Allah said he made us male and female, but Allah also said he made the day and night. Day doesn't become night like an off switch. Male/Female is a spectrum with many gradients.

>>44133

For 99% of ppl gender is binary, you are either XX or XY, but very rarely some can have different chromosomes, but even then one gender will be dominant. And it's very unlikely that transgender have a genetic disorder, it's more likely Autogynephilia. Maybe they feel like a woman, but if his or her chromosomes are normal, then it becomes a psychological disorder not a biological one.

>>44133

Based.

There were trans people in the time of Muhammad, and there are hadith that talk about them, and never any mention of "chromosomes" is made, so I have to assume it doesn't actually matter. The idea that "your gender = your chromosomes" is a modern innovation.

>>44133

>Trans women aren't men imitating women. Trans women are women

'Transgender' is a idealogy. It is not islamically grounded in reality. Plus if you search John money on google you can see where this idealogy came from

>>44167

There have been trans people for as long as there have been people. Just because a specific name was attached to something doesn't mean that's when it was invented.

>>44167

John Money's experiments were done in the late 60's and trans people already existed and were talked about in medical literature then. Either do better research, or go back to /pol/, there's no place for dishonest liars at the 8kun Masjid.

>>44158

No, it's not a bid'a, it's biology, and we can now differentiate between real mukhanath or crossdressers, in the end they are still treated as men in islamic law, they can't marry other men or have sodomy with them, and they certainly can't castrate themselves or take hormones. This is an even bigger innovation and changing the creation of Allah swt.

>>44184

The "changing the creation of Allah" argument is garbage. We are literally here to specifically change creation! We do it all the time, every day. If you so much as brush your teeth, you are changing creation. Stop using that argument.

>>44187

>>44184

i agree that "changing the creation" argument is flawed by itself. anon forgot something important to mention to make that argument sound and reasonable. which is the purpose of changing the creation. if you go to the gym everyday you are by theory changing your current stock of muscle cells and what not. now you have the option to put that gains into labor that would benefit the society and please god or store it all for yourself for show aka indulgence. one option will yield better rewards from god and the other will be embarrassing when questioned about it before god.

apply that to current gender theory epidemic and you will have the same analogy. as it does not seek to enable people to do what god intended of them to do in this life because it deviates with its view on sex from creation purpose to purely pleasure. it seeks indulgence this way. and in the process you end up with broken people unable to use their reproductive organs for their intended purposes due to cross sex hormones. their suicide rates dont diminish and will have to be put on lifelong medical treatment. HRT doesnt give the desired result alone and auxiliary surgeries are costly. SRS will result in a faulty organ that will not function as the real thing at best and at worst will have nightmarish results. and most horrifying of all, you have kids dragged into this whole mess too. 5-6 years ago people warned that the statics on this gender craze are still new and infant and should not be held as a gospel when preaching such ideology. especially for kids. those people were labeled transphobes/homophobes/bigots etc.. today the detransitioners who are coming out in big numbers are a testimony of what happens when society let go of common sense. im willing to bet that sadly most of those people were lured into this cult of sexuality by either pressure or lack of better thing to do in their lives as it is obvious they did not have a serious medical condition that needed all that attention and treatment in the first place. yet those detrans today will have to live with the everlasting damage they have done to their bodies (some of them are kids with no prior sex experience whatsoever mind you) and no amount of regret will undo that. while the fiend activists who lured them there in the first place and adamantly pushed them down that path without any shred of common sense to question the false Woke God are sleeping guilt free knowing that they have made the world a better place.

there is something astoshingly bizzare and crazy about this lust for changing and redefining everything. which can only come from the lack of content and complacency with what nature and god have given us.

just my 2 cents.

>>44187

Brushing your teeth is not changing creation, castrating yourself with the intention of resembling a woman is.

>>44204

Gym is not changing creation, that's using the purpose of your muscles.

>>44238

Removing something you were born with that causes medical issues (physical OR mental) isn't changing creation. Unless you believe removing impacted wisdom teeth is haram …

>>44251

Rabia believed that worship based on reward or punishment, rather than love of God, was hollow. Thus, destroying both the reward and the punishment would leave only loving God as the reason for worship.

>>44252

That's beautiful!

>>44255

?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!??

>>44256

?

>>44169

>>44168

any community that accepted lgbt+Whatever is suffering now in moral decline and moral degeneracy, to the point where things like grooming childeren are becoming the norm in the name of 'inclusion'. And nope islam only recognizes only 2 sexes, lgbt/liberal idealogy is not compatible with islam because liberalism is moral subjectivity

>>44262

>islam only recognizes only 2 sexes

Since you're obviously not Muslim, you can just piss right off. Islam recognizes gray areas. Don't try to infect us with your Christian idiocy.

>>44257

CP bot spam deleted by the globals.

>>44267

i am a muslim,

>you can just piss right off

??

>Islam recognizes gray areas

are going to say that islam also recognizes post-modern idealogies?

>>44272

If all you see is day and night and disregard dawn and dusk, then you hate Allah and Creation.

>>44267

different guy here.

im curious what examples can you find in slamic legacy and literature where a non binary understanding of sex/gender was implied or tolerated. if the aspect of "being between a man and a woman" has always existed in history then muslims societies must have experienced that and found a way to assimilate those individuals.

im merely curious about this phenomenan. all i know about it in regard to islamic way of living is: 1) it considers non hetero relations as sinful and against the guidance of the quran. 2) no matter how many trans individuals there has been in the past this transgender phenomenon only exploded recently and we've never seen their numbers before as a society. let alone this ideology being employed by corporates and politicians and turning it into a cult. which is the main point of contention.

Today I went out in public wearing hijab for the first time ^~^ it felt really good!!

>>44278

If you hate what Allah has created, then Islam is not for you.

>>44279

mabrouk!

>>44289

This board, in nearly 8 years, has never been successfully raided.

>>44245

Or maybe you should treat the mental problem instead of doing something permanent like cutting off a functioning organ.

>>44296

A woman who was born in a man's body won't be using that penis for its designed function and, thus, her having surgery to remove it is not cutting off a functioning organ.

>>44300

>woman who was born in a man's body

Never happens, even an effeminate male is still male in reality.

>>44309

Every single aspect of biological science proves you wrong. Muslims believe in science and learning the intricacies of God's universe. Why are you here?

>>44315

>a couple of brain scan research is "biological science"

>>44327

>every single aspect of biological science

>a couple of brain scans

Your leap of logic is childish and wrong. Then again, I expect anyone whose education stopped with "boys have peen, girls have vajeen" to be the dumbest person on the board.

See, you're supposed to deliberately oversimplify things for children and they learn more as they get older. It's why children will look at the sun and see a small yellow circle, but when they get older we show them that it's actually a super-massive ball of nuclear fire. The XX/XY thing is simplified for children. When you get older we'll teach you that it isn't that simple.

>>44328

>>44300

how can you measure this "woman in a man's body" and know it is the same as "woman in a woman's body"? how do you quantify that? there is no way around that other that what a person "feels" they should be. and when you get into the "feels" territory you get all sorts of reasons to attribute to. not necessarily biological and definitely not scientific. so please don't give us this "muh sayians" crap. if you read a little bit about the history of this gender theory and how "rabid onset gender dysphoria" bs came to be and all the skepticism around it that ought to raise a little bit suspicion to anyone with common sense.

yes we do oversimplify things for the sake of kids but we also tell them what they should be and what they should or should not do even when we provide them with the full picture. thats the whole point of being a parent. we guide kids through their early lives because they are susceptible and vulnerable to all kinds of pressure. bringing up your kids to believe that they "might have been born into the wrong vessel" bs and if they dont become pharma junkies at such young age they will end up killing themselves is a good recipe for all sorts of mental problems in the future. your kids are not immune to corporate predation nor to peer pressure. why on earth then do we see the numbers of trans explode within one age group more than other demographics? it is because kids who are more likely to buy into that as they have no prior sexual experience and dont yet understand their gender role in society.

you know back in the days my parents used to occasionally watch over what i would do on the computer and what games i used to play or movies i watched. fearing that i might get fed some satanist or heretical believes or some 🤬 or i might be sneaking some no-no stuff from my friends at school. which i found pretty funny and stupid. but now i understand their concern. they feared that i might get lost. but fortunately it was all games and movies that i had to do behind my parents back. there was no harm involved. no life altering decisions being made. no groups of people enabling me to harm my body beyond repair.

with how introvert and not so much manly boy i was god knows what devils would have played with my head had i been told that i could be a lady or daddy's femboy bs and seeing alot of my peers buying into that too. times were simpler and safer back then. but now it is no longer the case.

>>44338

Times were not simpler and safer back then, you were merely in a bubble.

Can a revert Muslim of any race identify as a mukhanath, or is that specifically an Arab closed-tradition thing?

>>44344

>Can a revert Muslim of any race identify as a mukhanath

Yes.

"if a lot of it intoxicates, then even a little is haram"

How do Shari'ah jurists define "intoxicate" in this statement? Is caffeine haram?

>>44353

Before around 1570, "intoxicated" meant "poisoned". That would pretty much render even the act of breathing to be haram because the tiny traces of poison gas in the atmosphere become toxic in higher concentrations. I think it's a matter of context, really, but the Arabic word used is general "sakran", which specifically means "drunk". Caffeine can't make you drunk, so …. no.

>>44354

So, for instance, cocaine is halal because it's only a stimulant (albeit a highly potent one) as well as a local anaesthetic. It doesn't impair the user's judgment in the same way that alcohol and cannabis might.

>>44357

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGAVTwhsyOs

Any substance that inherently causes a physical addiction is an intoxicant.

>>44357

If it is a necessary medication, cocaine would not be considered haram for that purpose. However, recreational use is forbidden. Same with any medicine like morphine or xanax. Remember: intention means a lot.

>>44358

Oh, I don't know about that. Sugar, after all, is halal.

>>44359

Yeah, my explanation was admittedly too broad. It is also the fact that cocaine has long term negative effects of a person's mental state that makes its recreational use haraam.

Besides, sugar is essential for the human body to function. Overeating is another issue.

>>44358

>posting Bush-era propaganda

The "war on drugs" is a racist cudgel that has been used to put countless American Muslims behind bars lol

>>44368

I agree with you, but I do love the classic commercials. Nice little throwback he posted.

>>44368

I agree that the War on Drugs is terrible, but the message of the video is true. Cocaine is addictive and addiction must be treated (just with more peaceful means).

>>44371

2 adult witnesses is enough. It doesn't matter who they are. Islam doesn't authorize any official clergy, so don't worry about an imam. You're signing a contract (nikah). A ceremony is optional, but any knowledgeable Muslim can officiate a ceremony and also count as one of your witnesses. So if her father is there, that's 1 witness and if you're having a ceremony, the officiant would be the 2nd witness.

>>44372

Thanks. Now all that's left to do is find family willing to accept my terms.

>>44373

What are your terms?

>>44374

The question itself.

Well, where i come from literally everyone chooses to have a ceremony and invite alot of people. It would be very rare for something like this to happen.

Does hoor al ayn have to be fair, large eyed and of equal age as they described in Qur'an? I would prefer them to be dark, slant eyed and older than me if I get to Jannah, InshaAllah. I know Jannah is priceless under any circumstance but still…

>>44384

I'm sure you'll be perfectly happy.

>>44385

I get your point but I would like to also have that type of hoor.

>>44315

>>44328

>biological science

Nobody denies hermaphrodites exist but that is a genetic condition and not the same as a regular XY guy claiming to "feel" like a woman inside so he can cut off his junk and crossdress. A male has a male soul, Allah SWT does not switch souls or make mistakes.

>>44344

Mukhanath still can't marry men. And they have the same rules apply to them as other males. And they certainly can't claim to be women or surgically change themselves.

>>44389

>there is only XX/XY

Tell me you've never studied biology without telling me you've never studied biology

>souls have gender

Tell me you've never read Qur'an without telling me you've never read Qur'an.

>>44406

If he meant the color, he would have said so.

Brothers, I have a question that's been nagging at me. Why do they hate us? I mean to the point the kind of lies they go for..calling the Prophet a Warlord and pedophile and the whole "oh, immigry rape children" and stuff I know, the Internet doesn't reflect real life but you know there's people out there who hate Islam, can't say it in public so they go online and talk some crap on us.

Hell, in my country we got folks leaving Islam for…well, just wanting to be degenerates. I just don't get all the hate piling up, y'know?

>>44418

Late-stage capitalism. Out of all the idols worshiped by the polytheists I would say that Capital is worse than all of them put together. If you don't like it, then fight capitalism with every fiber of your being.

>>44419

Mohammed PBUH was a merchant

>>44424

Yes, but he wasn't a capitalist.

>>44425

It is not a good idea in general to try and synthesize Islam with contemporary ideologies.

>>44424

Yes he was, and a merchant is not inherently a bad thing to be.

But the predatory loansharking that is the backbone of capitalism (student loans, credit cards, etc.) cannot be permitted in any Islamic society. Usury is a fundamental part of capitalism, to the point where if you say you oppose usury, the capitalists will say that you oppose capitalism. So we must oppose capitalism in its entirety, if it cannot exist without usury.

>>44429

Capitalism and private enterprise can exist without interest, but I do see your point.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9vWiJ3tNTTg

“Prophet Muhammad's Hair - Dubai Museum [HD] (and Allah knows Best)”

Is this legitimate? Is this permissible?

>>44432

Legit? Maybe. Hair keeps for a long, long time. Permissible? Sure, why not? As long as it's not used as a "sacred relic", it's fine.

This isn't a question, but I just need to vent. My boyfriend gave me pepperoni pizza even though he KNOWS I don't eat pork -__-

Full story, for context.

Him: Hey babe, you want the last two slices of pizza? It's just chicken and mushroom

Me: Awesome I love chicken and mushroom. Mmm… hey this kind of tastes like bacon

Him: Oh yeah there are some substitute bacon bits, it's non-pork bacon

Me: Oh awesome. Wow, this really tastes JUST like real bacon, lol

Him: Oh also there was some pepperoni on there but I picked it off

Me: ….

Him: ???

AAAARGH. He really frustrates me sometimes.

>>44495

That sort of thing is sadly common. When I first converted a "friend" of mine tricked me into eating pork and laughed about it. I sat him down and explained to him that pork is not a magic off-switch for Islam. Even if I intentionally eat it, I am still Muslim. I have merely sinned and must ask forgiveness. If I am tricked into eating it, then the sin is on the trickster and Allah is always watching.

I ran into him again 5 or 6 months later at the mosque. He converted. Allahu akbar.

>>44496

>If I am tricked into eating it, then the sin is on the trickster and Allah is always watching

This is something I wish more non-Muslims realized.

It's like when I hear US military servicepeople bragging about how they dip their bullets in bacon grease before a firefight. I shake my head because I shudder to think of what horror awaits these soldiers in the life to come.

>I ran into him again 5 or 6 months later at the mosque. He converted. Allahu akbar.

That's wonderful!

>>44497

Weird, I don't recall ever mentioning a girlfriend.

Can we have degenerate sex in jannah? Geniune question. Sorry if it sounds gross.

>>44500

Probably. But, that's for Allah to know and us to find out.

>>44501

InshaAllah. I feel like I have to make a little correction. By degenerate sex I don't mean what's halal but what's haram for example homosexuality. Some people think sex itself is innately evil but it isn't. So I ask about haram(therefore degenerate) sex acts if they will be halal in Jannah. I hope I was clear.

>>44502

Well, Qur'an speaks of rivers of wine (which is haram) in Paradise, so I think it's safe to assume that the rules are different there.

But, again, that's for Allah to know and for us to find out. tbh I think whatever awaits us in the afterlife (whether Heaven or Hell) is so far beyond human comprehension that it's not even worth thinking about. Just do your best to live honorably in this life.

>>44505

Yes brother agree with you 100% but we are humans, we want what we want. If I knew that I will have in Jannah what I want to have right now, it would make me feel better. I don't have the best imaan, I might be motivated better with what I know and see than with what I don't know and see. That doesn't mean I disagree with you. I hope you understand me bc I don't live in a English-speaking country.

>>44504

https://islamqa.info/en/answers/2843/colours-which-are-encouraged-mustahabb-disliked-makrooh-and-forbidden-haraam-in-mens-and-womens-clothing

>>44507

I already read the IslamQA article, but it does not mention purple.

Are you saying it’s halal, haraam, makrooh or what?

>>44508

If it's not mentioned, it's allowed.

As far as respecting the parents goes in Islam, up to what extent is it permissible to raise your voice/confront a parent?

I've recently visited my parents after not seeing them for a long time and I feel like I need to step up and do something about my father's transgressions against my mother.

>>44511

You should be kind and respect them, but it's ok to disagree - and even argue with them - when they're in the wrong. You may confront your father, but you may not air the grievances in public or strike him.

>>44505

>(which is haram)

Only intoxicants are haram.

[Quran 37:45-47]

There will be circulated among them a cup [of wine] from a flowing spring, White and delicious to the drinkers; No bad effect is there in it, nor from it will they be intoxicated.

>>44506

>Yes brother

Sister. :)

>>44495

… Wed them with the permission of their own folk and give them their mahr (dowry) according to what is reasonable; they should be chaste, not adulterous, nor taking boyfriends… [al-Nisaa’ 4:25]

>>44518

“And (remember) Loot (Lot), when he said to his people: ‘Do you commit the worst sin such as none preceding you has committed in the ‘Aalameen (mankind and jinn)?

Verily, you practise your lusts on men instead of women. Nay, but you are a people transgressing beyond bounds (by committing great sins)’” [al-A’raaf 7:80-81]

>>44517

"The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) cursed the women who imitate men and the men who imitate women." [Jami` at-Tirmidhi 3013]

>>44520

Transgender people are not imitating. Trans women are women. Allah knows this to be true and who are you to question the Creator of Worlds?

>>44517

That was unexpected tbh.

What's the meaning of this hadith?

>Abu Musa' reported that Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said:

>When it will be the Day of Resurrection Allah would deliver to every Muslim a Jew or a Christian and say: That is your rescue from Hell-Fire.

>قَالَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم ‏ "‏ إِذَا كَانَ يَوْمُ الْقِيَامَةِ دَفَعَ اللَّهُ عَزَّ وَجَلَّ إِلَى كُلِّ مُسْلِمٍ يَهُودِيًّا أَوْ نَصْرَانِيًّا فَيَقُولُ هَذَا فَكَاكُكَ مِنَ النَّارِ ‏"

Muslim Book 50 Nr. 56

>>44524

>Muslim Book 50 Nr. 56

Uh … source? Muslim 50, 56 says this:

"Allah commanded the earth (from where) he wanted to come out to move itself away and to the other earth (where he wanted to go) to draw nearer."

>>44524

Oh, I see. It's 57, not 56. That's ok. Simple error.

Anyway, it's explained if you continue reading. We don't take a single sentence and try to figure it out. Read the whole thing.

>>44526

Ah, I see. Thanks brother.

>>44522

Then who are the imitating people that the hadith is referring to? Do you expect to be raised on the day of resurrection as a woman?

They will be presented before your Lord in rows, ˹and the deniers will be told,˺ “You have surely returned to Us ˹all alone˺ as We created you the first time, although you ˹always˺ claimed that We would never appoint a time for your return.” [Quran 18:48]

>>44529

Different translation-

And they will be set before your Lord in ( lines as ) rows, ( and Allâh will say ) : « Now indeed, you have come to Us as We created you the first time. Nay, but you thought that We had appointed no meeting for you ( with Us ).

>>44529

>Then who are the imitating people that the hadith is referring to?

Most likely cross-dressers, transvestites, drag queens. Transgender people are not pretending. Allah knows that just like day and night are not an on/off switch, but a gradient; so too is all of Creation. Gender is fluid and a spectrum. Human science is finally catching up to what Allah has always known.

>>44538

>There is another hadith that states that if a Muslim has homosexual urges and refrains from acting upon them, they will be guaranteed paradise.

I'd like to have a link/source to that hadith. I struggle with urges. May Allah reward you.

>>44542

"Allah forgives my ummah for the evil deeds their souls may whisper or suggest to them as long as they do not act on it or speak." Sahih al-Bukhari 6664

https://sunnah.com/bukhari:6664

>>44542

I remember reading it somewhere, but I looked all over google and couldn't find a source. Sorry.

What happened to the thread about the brother considering marrying a former prostitute? Do you just delete conversations that you do not like?

>>44569

Who cares? Dude wants to marry a hooker, let him. Didn't really need its own thread.

>>44570

And in that thread was a fasiq spreading falsehoods.

Men have a position of authority over their wives. Women are to obey their husbands. These are facts. I have a feeling me arguing this point was the reason the thread was deleted.

>>44571

Yes, I'm sure you personally are the reason anything ever actually happens. Also, husbands and wives are to be equal in obedience. I seem to recall the argument that women are to submit to their husbands, which is false. Obedience != Submission. When the Prophet(pbuh) said "obedient women", he meant "true and faithful".

After all, what if a husband commands his wife to eat pork and have sex with his friends? Does she have to obey him?

>>44572

>After all, what if a husband commands his wife to eat pork and have sex with his friends? Does she have to obey him?

Obviously not because you are not allowed to disobey Allah, no matter who commands you to.

submission

noun

the action or fact of accepting or yielding to a superior force or to the will or authority of another person.

This is how it is in Islam regarding women's behavior to their husbands. The men are in a higher position of authority, therefor the women must submit to that authority. It isn't on the same level as submitting to God. Children are supposed to submit to their parents in the same manner.

>>44573

>accepting or yielding to a superior force

Husbands and wives are equal in Islam. The only superior force, the only authority, is Allah.

You are mistaking obedience for submission. If a wife submits to her husband, then she can't say no if he commands her to sin. But she is not to submit to him, nor him to her. They are to be obedient to each other and submit to Allah.

Everything else is incel harem fantasy.

>>44574

So you are saying that women do not need to seek permission from their husbands before they take certain actions? Like going to the store or buying something online? Because they do need to do that. It is Islamic tradition. My wife does this.

>>44577

No, what I'm saying is that men ALSO need to ask their wife's permission before taking certain actions as well. It is an equal partnership. She is not yours to command, not your property, not your slave. In Islam, husbands and wives are equals.

The wife submits only to Allah, not to her husband. If you expect your wife to submit to you, then you are proclaiming yourself Allah and have nullified your Islam.

>>44578

No. Men can ask their wife's opinion on certain matters and she can give him advice about things, but he is the head of the household. Decisions are his to make. It is not an equal partnership like in some feminist "down with the patriarchy" type situation.

Let me guess-you are a western Muslim who has probably never even been to a Muslim country and even seen a righteous Muslim woman. You probably adhere heavily to secularism.

The Prophet (saws) said: He who copies any people is one of them.

>The wife submits only to Allah, not to her husband. If you expect your wife to submit to you, then you are proclaiming yourself Allah and have nullified your Islam.

Proclaiming myself Allah? That is probably one of the dumbest f*cking things ever said.

In Islam children's paradise is under the feet of their mother and wives paradise is under the feet of her husband.

>>44578

It is a matter of semantics you are arguing over. The word "submit". Lets stop using this word and talk about specific behaviors and interaction between a husband and a wife instead.

>Once more for the slow learners: We're not going to turn this board into Transgender discussion. If you have a problem with transgender people, gtfo my board. Bans will be handed out from now on. You can hate Allah's creation on Telegram/Gab freely. Go there.

Huh. I guess islam is whatever our dear board owner dictates it is. I never knew.

>>44601

Islam? No.

/islam/? Yes.

Ownership has its privileges.

>>44609

He could've just as easily banned the topic with respect, but he phrases it as that disagreeing with transgenderism is wrong. He does not have the power to do so. Also, as a BO he should set an example with politeness, civility, and no biases. He did the exact opposite, and instead using "gtfo" which isn't really a polite nor muslim-like way. Swearing and insults are haram.

>>44612

I seem to recall that the initial banning of the topic was done politely. People kept pushing it and pushing it and he kept reminding people to stop, but they persisted. When the carrot stops working, then it's time for the stick.

>>44617

this ^^

Like, the BO has been trying to keep a polite, civil, unbiased tone for as long as I've been browsing /islam/, which is since early 2016. Patience has limits.

>>44612

>Hue haheh, you get mad and lose your cool when I've been blatantly disrespecting you for the last five years? Not very Muslim of you :^)

Lord have mercy on this child…

>>44618

Why are you accusing me? You do not know me. I have only started browsing this board in the past 3 weeks. You are a terrible person.

>>44624

This is why we say "LURK MOAR". Have you read every thread to see what the board has been talking about in the 6 years prior to your arrival? No? Then … LURK MOAR!!

>>44624

>I have only started browsing this board in the past 3 weeks.

Right, and we've been dealing with the same drama since 2016. So… A little late to be joining the losing side. :p

>>44626

>heheh my religion is whatever meme is popular :PPP xD

How desperate and terminally online do you have to be to actively spew misinformation on a dying board for 5 years?

May Allah guide you to the true path and forgive us all.

>>44628

People have been saying this board was dying since the day it was created. It was here before you and will be here long after you get bored of trying to troll and move on. Every now and then someone like you pops up who was hoping for an ISIS LARP board, but then find out it's an actual Muslim board for Muslims and get butthurt.

We can spot you a mile away because all you EVER want to talk about is the T in LGBT. You literally NEVER post about anything else. If you're so fixated on transgender people, may I suggest the following:

https://www.glaad.org/transgender/resources

>>44631

Actually, we already accept the LGBs as long as they don't sin. We don't have thought crimes in Islam. BEING gay is not a sin. ACTING on gay thoughts is a sin. Unless you like the idea of thoughts being sins, punishable by hellfire, in which case I would suggest you become Christian.

>>44631

Non-raping gays?

Are you trying to argue that homosexual intercourse is NOT haraam?

>>44634

Hold on, ignore this comment, I was too dumb to read the whole comment

>>44637

>Since you're an obvious disingenuous troll, you will be treated like one. Since you're obviously not Muslim,

Woah, pump the brakes.

I know transphobia isn't cool, it's a prejudiced and bigoted behavior, so of course you're angry at this person. That is understandable. BUT, transphobia is not kufr. It doesn't give you license to accuse someone of being "obviously not Muslim."

You can say that he is toxic and hateful, and you can say that he breaking the rules of this board. BUT, you cannot say he is not Muslim. Takfir is also against the rules. Against the rules of this board, and against the rules of this Deen.

>>44651

Maybe I went a little too far, but dealing with these irksome little trolls takes its toll.

>>44628

>How desperate and terminally online do you have to be to

… constantly ban evade on what you call a "dying board" for 5 years?

>>44075

I know this post is 4 months old, but

why do you care whether you're ugly or not? is it because you want people to give a sh** about you

it doesn't f***ing matter in Allah's eyes, we're all equal

if you care so much about what people think about you, you might end up leaving Islam because some people (kuffar) think badly about Islam

and actually being attractive is more of a test since it can easily lead you to zina, i.e. women are more attracted to you when you're attractive

>>44069

you're talking nonsense

>the wine

khamr or alcolohic beverages exist on every culture on earth including arabian peninsula, that's why when Islam came Allah made it haram since the arab people used to drink it

>the meat, the fruit, the fancy palaces, rivers

these also exist in every culture, dumbass

you must be a kafir to correlate Qur'anic verses to some kafir civilization, since you're so familiar with that kafir society

this bullsh** only makes sense if the Qur'an mentioned something specific like the castles which only exist in the medieval period

also the khamr in jannah is different to what we have in this world, such as drinking it doesn't cause diarrhea or make you drunk, hell everything in jannah is different to that of this world, jannah doesn't contain imperfection, therefore there's no such thing as getting bored as getting bored would imply jannah is imperfect as in lacking the ability to entertain you

everything is different in jannah, stop comparing it to this world

https://quran.com/32/17

>No soul can imagine what delights are kept in store for them as a reward for what they used to do.

>>43113

You 🤬ed your own sister or mother in past life and now you have to carry retarded incest genes.

>>44717

>past life

We only get one.

>>44718

No.

>>44718

How do you deny Allah and you were dead and He gave you life? Again He will cause you to die and again bring you to life, then you shall be brought back to Him.

Al Baqarah (The Cow): Ayat 28

>>44719

Allah grants us one life in this world and one more in the hereafter. The guy he was replying to was implying that reincarnation exists. Learn about context clues!

>>44720

Using that ayat to justify past life regression mysticism is a gross misuse of Qur'an and is, by every definition, heresy.

>>44725

>>44726

You've got it right before your eyes, stupid brown subhuman sands.

"you were dead and He gave you life"

Reincarnation is in the Quran. So it is in the Old Testament and New Testament.

>>44727

Go back to /pol/ you half-wit

>>44728

Go back to the dessert, goater.

>>44729

Mmm yes I love to eat sweet desserts like rice pudding and baklava

>>44727

Your interpretation is wrong and your insults are banal.

>>44753

Never seen any conversation like that, but there are male houris.

>>44754

I've witnessed it many times tbh.

>>44755

Well, the conversation SHOULD be:

muslim man: i want hoors in jannah InshaAllah

muslim woman: me too

And that's it.

>>44756

I wish.

>>44757

Well, maybe next time you overhear this conversation, you should correct your brothers and sisters with the simple statement, "There are male houris". That way you increase their knowledge and their deen instead of being petty and whining about it.

>>44758

keep calm tho. I just pointed out something and asked if anyone else noticed it as well.

>>44789

Eh, it's harmless. Form your own opinion.

The irony of drawing mushrikeen performing Salah goes without saying…

I didn't watch p*rn and masturbate in 2022 and I don't ever want to do it again. Any naseeha?

>>44832

It's ok to use the word porn here. This isn't a tiktok comment section.

>>44848

>I have doubts about ahadith

It's ok to doubt hadith and study/question them and consult scholars with questions. Never be afraid to ask questions and never fear doubt.

>Why Qur'an doesn't openly answer questions

It does. Keep looking.

>>44849

By openly I mean specific answer to a specific question.

>>44850

Every specific answer to every specific question is in there. Keep looking. Qur'an is very explicit. It's simple for a reason.

>>44851

which ayah specifically answers the specific question of "why do kids suffer?". please don't dance around the question. you don't have to answer it if you don't know.

>>44859

https://www.masjidtucson.org/submission/faq/suffering_and_misery.html

https://islamqa.info/en/answers/20785/why-do-children-suffer-in-this-world

https://quran.com/50/35

Will I have literally "whatever" I desire in Jannah, for example gay sex, or will I desire and have whatever there's already in Jannah? I would be more than happy just to be able to make it to Jannah, but I'm still curious.

>>44889

This sort of question comes up from time to time. The answer is pretty much always the same.

See: >>44500

>>44892

So what's the answer?

>>44894

… read the replies to the post I linked. This is why we say "lurk more".

>>44896

Anything with scholarly sources?

>>44897

Is Qur'an not scholarly enough for you?

>>44899

I might not be well-versed in Qur'an. Maybe you could help instead of being snarky.

>>44901

>I might not be well-versed in Qur'an.

That's fine, but …

>Maybe you could help instead of being snarky.

I did help. I don't know how much more help I can be to someone who refuses to read the original question:

>>44889

>https://quran.com/50/35

"They will have whatever they wish therein, and with Us is more."

"They will have whatever they wish therein, and with Us is more."

"They will havewhatever they wishtherein, and with Us is more."

>WHATEVER THEY WISH

How much more clear do you need it to be? Why do you need a scholarly opinion when Qur'an is so simple a retarded child could understand it?

>>44902

>Why do you need a scholarly opinion when Qur'an is so simple a retarded child could understand it?

Bold of you to say something like that since even scholars have ikhtilaf between themselves.

>>44903

>"They will have whatever they wish therein, and with Us is more."

>WHATEVER THEY WISH

Which of those three words is giving you the problems that you require a scholar to interpret it for you? Your reliance on scholars with even the simplest of statements borders on requiring a Priest. Are you Catholic?

>>44907

Wow dude you're making this hyperbole because I don't have a certain opinion about a controversial topic. There are muslims that say there is no gayness in Jannah as well. Have you read their arguments and concluded they aren't good muslim enough?

>>44909

>a certain opinion

>opinion

Qur'an literally says "whatever they wish". Your opinion is meaningless.

>There are muslims that say

So what? Muslims don't determine Islam. Allah is the ONLY source. If you disagree, then you are not Muslim. Period.

>>44910

Mufti says there is no homosexuality in Jannah. Please don't make takfir on him.

https://fatwa.ca/homosexual-desires-control-will-given-permission-fulfill-desires-jannah/

>>44911

>contradicts Qur'an

Opinion discarded.

>>44912

Ok.

>>44791

Mushrikeen?

Buddhists are Ahl al-Kitab, and Gautama is recognized as a prophet by at least one sect of Islam that I'm aware of.

>>44915

>Buddhists are Ahl al-Kitab

I hadn't heard that before and would love if you could share some insight.

>>44933

Ayah 21:85 and 38:48 both mention a "Dhu al-Kifl", there's a lot of differing opinions among scholars but some people believe it refers to Kapilavistu, which according to Buddhists is where Siddhartha Gautama reached enlightenment.

Basically the idea then, from an Islamic perspective, is Gautama was a prophet whose people were persecuted by their majority-polytheist society, and Gautama and his followers preached Tawhid and had their own revealed holy scriptures, but after his death those scriptures became corrupted (following the same pattern as other prophets and their books, like the Injeel etc.)

To be honest, I don't know how solid the "al-Kifl = Buddha" connection really is. I think a lot of it is politics; a lot of majority-Buddhist countries have a large Muslim minority (and vice versa), a Muslim-Buddhist alliance is too powerful for TPTB to be comfortable with it, which is why we're now having conflicts in countries like Burma (which is 100% astroturfed by Chinese intelligence)

Guys, I stopped watching p*rn, masturbating and listening to music for a while alhamdulillah. Life seems boring now. Not that I want to turn back to them again just because I'm bored. I spend my time by reading, learning, exercising and watching Islamic videos. I still need some relatively cheap(tbh, it must be almost free because I don't have a job rn) halal hobby. What would you recommend?

>>45089

It's ok to use the word porn here. This isn't a tiktok comment section.

Guys, I stopped watching porn, masturbating and listening to music for a while alhamdulillah. Life seems boring now. Not that I want to turn back to them again just because I'm bored. I spend my time by reading, learning, exercising and watching Islamic videos. I still need some relatively cheap(tbh, it must be almost free because I don't have a job rn) halal hobby. What would you recommend?

>>45091

Gardening is the best cheap hobby.

Hi,

Why is the same argument against islam used over and over? notably the "hadiths were written 200 years later" or the "no quran found in the time". Is that really the case or is it a form of cope?

>>45100

Because racists, white nationalists, neonazis, christians, and other retards have no imagination.

>>45109

Okay

Could my tawbah be accepted not because I felt regret or shame(astaghfirullah) for it but I made tawbah anyway because I know it's right to do stay away from sins and not repeating them?

>>45148

https://jundunlittawheed.wordpress.com/2015/05/29/the-signs-for-the-acceptance-and-non-acceptance-of-tawbah-repentance/

What benefits are there to stop listening to music? I stopped listening to music a short time ago and I don't miss it. Alhamdulillah.

>>45158

>What benefits are there to stop listening to music?

None … and why would you do that? Allah gave us many glorious songs and instilled in us the power to sing and learn how to create such beautiful music. Seems like a silly thing to …. oh wait … are you Taliban?

>>45158

If you don’t miss it, why were you compelled to ask?

>>45159

>>45162

Only negative answers here. May Allah guide you and me. Salam.

>>45163

Sorry, but wasn’t being negative at all. I was just a bit confused.

>>45163

It's kind of a silly question. I mean, how would you respond if someone said, "What benefits are there to stop drinking water?"

I have some unusual non-hetero fetishes. Maybe they're from shaitan, maybe I experienced a trauma that I don't remember right now that caused it. Sadly we don't exactly know the source of these kind of things.

Sometimes I wonder if I'll experience my haram desires if I enter Jannah. On one hand it's said that you'll be purified from impure desires, on the other hand it's said you'll have whatever your inner-selves desire. Now it looks like it's mutually exclusive but it isn't. We could be purified from our impure desires and still want in Jannah whatever our inner-selves will want in Jannah, if it makes sense.

Yet I still want to think that Allah would grant me to experience haram desires of my nafs in Jannah as a reward if I have patience here in dunya. Not that Allah owes me it, astaghfirullah, but that's what I desire. Maybe I shouldn't even think about it and I'm committing major sin by doing so. I don't know, I'm so confused. Do you feel me?

Only thing I know is that life is too short and we should be patient with our nafs no matter what. Because life is a test and that's the whole point. But every once in a while these thoughts will come to my mind.

>>45176

Btw I know that I will be perfectly happy in Jannah if I reach there inshaAllah, regardless of what I'll be given there. My post was more of a rant than a geniune question.

>>45176

People will be purified and their sinful desires will no longer be with them. I can't find the verse that says he will purify the people entering Jannah, but there is this one.

Those who sell their covenant with God and their promises for a small price will have no share in the life hereafter. God will not speak to them nor will He look at them on the Day of Judgment nor will He purify them. They will face a painful torment. {3-77}

>>45183

Honestly it's too scary man. From now on I don't even want to entertain the thought that I could have gay sex in Jannah. I'm glad you posted it. JazakAllah khair.

I formulated in my mind prayers to someboddy else than God, but i didnt mean it. Does it counts as shirk? Am i screwed?

>>45195

Just ask forgiveness and don't do it again.

I taught myself to pray. I never elongated the thowleen at the end of the prayer for many years. Now that I know you are supposed to I still have a hard time remembering to do it out of habit. Should I make 2 rakats of forgetfulness at the end of the prayer? Do those prayers still count?

Do Muslims study the Torah?

>>45235

Not really, no. Modern versions of it are too perverted by men from the original message. We study Qur'an. Anything in Torah that contradicts Qur'an can be disregarded.