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cc255a  No.31808

I'm sure we're all aware of what's been going on with the murder of a journalist and the cover up by the KSA. I came across this question and thought I would pose it here.

Obviously we cannot boycott Hajj, since that is commanded by God; but do we have other solutions to the problem?

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f4803b  No.31809

It's obvious you're a professional irani shill.

>Fatah advocates gay rights, a separation of religion and state, opposition to sharia law, and advocacy for a "liberal, progressive form" of Islam.

So you want to join kuffar in boycotting Muslims? All these morons talking of boycotting Saudi Arabia are munafiqun.

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cc255a  No.31810

>>31809

>professional irani shill

Man, I wish someone would pay me to post on 8ch; but, no, I merely asked a question. If you have no answer, so be it.

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2d4d8b  No.31811

Yes, we should be decoupling Muslims from their governments to unite them so that peaceful or at least minimally violent transitions of power can occur. The less we depend on our governments the stronger we are.

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f4803b  No.31814

>>31813

Yeah obviously Saudi Arabia are just puppets of the kuffar, which is why all kuffar are waging a non stop propaganda war against Saudi Arabia every time they fight back against critics. When the rafidhi zindiq nimr al nimr who was openly preached for terrorism got rightly executed the entire world championed him as a peaceful human right activist. The kuffar support iran against their own kafir puppet the saudi king, because that makes a lot of sense.

Khawarij are just as braindead as their rafidhi brothers.

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be42db  No.31816

>>31814

you makhali murji', your ale salul masters fund al sysy of egypt and other tyrants in the region, you support the killing of muslims, go lick taghut boots somewhere else, is it the same kuffar who praise mbs as a reformer of islam?? what a joke you are, go back to your crappy dead board kid

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f4803b  No.31818

>>31816

Your master is the british queen or trump. Pathetic LARPer.

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39ca90  No.31820

>>31808

My seerah is a bit weak, I admit, but didn't the prophet still perform the hajj when madina and mecca was under the rule of kuffar? Pretty sure they signed an agreement as well to allow muslims perform the hajj without any distraction? If this is true, (can another brother/sister check on this), wouldn't this mean that politics shouldn't disrupt or interfere with ibadah.

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cc255a  No.31821

>>31818

Dude, we get it. You worship the Saud family. Let it go.

>>31820

It is true that Hajj is obligatory regardless of who rules over Mecca. We can't boycott it. However, there should be some backlash for the blatant murder of a journalist. We should not turn a blind eye to such atrocity.

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be42db  No.31822

>>31818

Your ale salul masters are dogs of the queen and trump, which makes u a dog of a dog! They dance with trump like homosexuals while happily accepting him comparing them to dairy cows lol. SAD!

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2d4d8b  No.31823

>>31822

Sit down fool.

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7d0abb  No.31824

Enough with the petty bickering. If you have nothing to contribute to the topic, then hide the thread and move on. Remember: Attack the argument, not the poster.

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be42db  No.31825

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>>31823

Why are you insulting me?

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be42db  No.31826

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be42db  No.31827

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f4803b  No.31828

>>31825

>>31826

>>31827

>the evil saudis are murdering innocent houthi peace-fighters and preachers of democracy like nimr al nimr, we should boycott Mecca and make pilgrimage to karbala instead!

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be42db  No.31829

>>31828

How can you make so much excuses for these people when they see you as a disposable peasant? Do you think it's fine to butcher a 65 year old muslim man in secret?

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3cc1af  No.31830

>>31821

Hmm, then how about we boycott or stop doing Umrah for a while then? Umrah is not obligatory. I don't agree with this Tarek guy about boycotting the hajj, hajj is obligatory to be done for those who are able. Umrah however is not. I always find the royal saudi family to be a bit shady, but I don't think politics should interfere with ibadah.

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f4803b  No.31831

>>31830

Umrah is not obligatory but your technology made in israel and america is ;)

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2d4d8b  No.31832

>>31825

I was tired and misread your post tbh.

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be42db  No.31833

>>31831

The same tech ale salul buys? :^)

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be42db  No.31834

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be42db  No.31857

Ka’b ibn Ujrah reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, came to us while we were a group of nine. The Prophet said, “Verily, tyrannical rulers will come after me and whoever affirms their lies and supports their oppression has nothing to do with me and I have nothing to do with him, and he will not drink with me at the fountain in Paradise. Whoever does not affirm their lies and does not support their oppression is part of me and I am part of him, and he will drink with me at the fountain in Paradise.”

Source: Sunan An-Nasa’i 4207

Grade: Sahih (authentic) according to Ibn Hajar

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f4803b  No.31858

>I heard the Prophet (ﷺ) saying, "In the last days (of the world) there will appear young people with foolish thoughts and ideas. They will give good talks, but they will go out of Islam as an arrow goes out of its game, their faith will not exceed their throats. So, wherever you find them, kill them, for there will be a reward for their killers on the Day of Resurrection."

https://sunnah.com/bukhari/66/82

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be42db  No.31859

>>31858

Sounds like the saudis.

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f4803b  No.31860

>>31859

yes the Saudis will have much ajr(reward) on the day of resurrection in sha Allah as per the hadith.

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be42db  No.31862

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>>31860

How can they if they are allied with the christians against muslims? You are nothing but a peasant to the ale salul (if you even live there), how degrading must it be to defend them for free in this life, and then be resurrected with them among the guilty? Loss in this life and the next. But alhamdulillah, every time these tyrants of saudi, egypt or iran do something stupid they get exposed and the wider ummah sees their true face.

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f4803b  No.31863

>>31862

I'm not impressed by fake emotional fiery speeches addressed to retarded teens. You're pretty much the definition of young with dumb visions. Your khariji foreign idols preaching in the west haven't succeeded in anything, everything is up to the Muslims like the Saudis, may Allah give them tawfiq and protect them from khawarij and rafidha.

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be42db  No.31864

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>>31863

>I'm not impressed by fake emotional fiery speeches

name 1 thing wrong with his speech lol

>everything is up to the Muslims like the Saudis,

How can they be muslims if they are traitors and apostates?

>may Allah give them tawfiq and protect them from khawarij and rafidha.

We are the descendants of as-siddiq and ibn al waleed, the destroyers of the majoos, with Allah (swt) we shall retake everything from the nil to the furat and more.

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f4803b  No.31865

>>31864

You're apostate mariquun. And lol at random american roleplayers claiming to be descendants of as-Siddiq and ibnul-Waleed, you guys are dreaming.

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be42db  No.31866

>>31865

Any proof of my ridda? You are the one worshiping taghut not me kiddo.

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be42db  No.31869

﴾ Allah has promised those who have believed among you and done righteous deeds that He will surely grant them succession [to authority] upon the earth just as He granted it to those before them and that He will surely establish for them [therein] their religion which He has preferred for them and that He will surely substitute for them, after their fear, security, [for] they worship Me, not associating anything with Me. But whoever disbelieves after that - then those are the defiantly disobedient. ﴿ -24:55

Khilafah is an obligation!

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cc255a  No.31875

>you're apostate

<NO U

>NO U

<NO U

>NUH UH

<YUH HUH

Bunch of children …

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2d4d8b  No.31877

>>31875

This.

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be42db  No.31879

>>31875

>>31877

More like

>saudis can do no wrong

<yeah they can

>NO THEY ARE INFALLIBLE

<saudis kill muslims

>you are khariji

<caliphate is obligatory

>you are kaffir

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be42db  No.31898

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/altmuslim/2018/10/its-time-to-boycott-saudi-arabia-the-custodians-of-makkah-and-madinah/

>Saudi Arabia officially estimates that it earns nearly $8.5 billion annually from hajj alone, according to figures from 2014. About 70 percent of that expenditure comes from overseas visitors. Nearly nine times as many people perform umrah (19 million) than hajj (2.4 million). By 2022 experts estimate Saudi Arabia’s revenues from hajj and umrah will exceed $150 billion. The gruesome killing of journalist Jamal Khashoggi ought to be the impetus that puts an economic dent on the Kingdom’s facade.

Interesting…

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7b8bc5  No.31905

>>31898

Hajj is obligatory as long as the person is capable of performing regardless of politics. Umrah is not obligatory. I have to ask, do these people who wants to boycott the saudis, do they do the same towards Israel? Just wondering.

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f43ca6  No.31906

>>31809

cringe, another saudi and israeli bootlicking munafiqun

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f43ca6  No.31907

Why are there so many saudi bootlickers here? This isn't about rafidis, any sane Muslim would oppose a regime that openly deals with Zionists and Americans, has unironic munafiqeen leaders who do degenerate things with prostitutions, commits violent crimes against Yemen (regardless on opinions on houthis, saudis have been barbaric in this war against even other sunnis), try to starve fellow brothers in Qatar, openly support dictators like Sisi when it works for them, etc, etc, etc.

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cc255a  No.31909

>>31907

>so many

How many is "so many"?

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be42db  No.31911

>>31907

>Why are there so many saudi bootlickers here?

There's literally just 1 lol, he used to be mod and was banning anyone anti saudi, even banned other mods lol. Until he got demoted and made his own irrelevant pro saudi board, which died a few days later so he crept back in here. He's either a saudi payed shill or a madkhali bootlicker. Either way, a degenerate fasiq at best.

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be42db  No.31931

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