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eae7da  No.31751

In jannah, can I have sex with or chill with more than one woman at the same time? Idk why but I have been under impression that I can not, it has to be only one. Does any verse or hadith say something about this number thing? And what's your personal view?

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5ba39a  No.31752

>>31751

I don't think about that sort of thing. I don't have a pornographic obsession with sex.

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2847f6  No.31753

I don't see why you couldn't do many things at the same time, we won't have space-time limitations. And the number iirc is at least 2 for the average muslim, a mujahid gets 72.

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3f0550  No.31756

>>31752

Who's tired and disgusted of people like this one insinuating they are virtuous because they have no much to do with sex?

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2847f6  No.31758

>>31751

Also source on the book?

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5ba39a  No.31759

>>31756

Probably not as tired as I am of people who try to pornographize Paradise.

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3f0550  No.31760

>>31758

Idk taken from internet but could be the arabs by eugene rogan.

>>31759

sex is not always necessarily pornographic, virtuous superior lord.

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5ba39a  No.31761

>>31760

Making a thread asking how many women you can have sex with at a time. Is that really your #1 concern about Paradise? Also, it's a huge red flag that you changed your IP as soon as you made the thread.

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228fb6  No.31762

>>31761

no, what makes you think it's my very first concern? just because I made a thread about it? that's so silly of you if you think so. In Turkey many websites are blocked so I often change VPN, why does it even bother you?

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5ba39a  No.31763

>>31762

You're the one who made the thread. Did you only want people who agree with you to respond? Did you not expect any dissent or contrary opinion?

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4f0328  No.31764

>>31763

i'm looking forward to posts with points, not your ego boosting disgusting post. also i didn't assert any opinion, i asked a question. quit your strawman bs.

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2847f6  No.31765

“So (it will be). And We shall marry them to Hoor (fair females) with wide lovely eyes”

[al-Dhukhaan 44:54]

“They will recline (with ease) on thrones arranged in ranks. And We shall marry them to Hoor (fair females) with wide lovely eyes

[al-Toor 52:20]

A man will have intercourse in Paradise with his wives from among al-hoor al-‘iyn and his wives from among the people of this world, if they enter Paradise with him. A man will be given the strength of a hundred men to eat, drink, feel desire and have sexual intercourse. It was narrated from Anas (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The believer in Paradise will be given such and such strength for sexual intercourse.” He was asked, “O Messenger of Allaah, will he really be able to do that?” He said, “He will be given the strength of one hundred (men).” (Narrated by al-Tirmidhi, no. 2459. He said, (it is) saheeh ghareeb).

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2847f6  No.31766

>>31752

He is looking forward to what his Lord (swt) promised him. That's a good thing, better to be excited for the hereafter than to commit zina in this dunya.

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16af37  No.31797

>>31752

>>31759

>copious and polyamorous sex in heaven is wrong

christian detected.

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d61ca7  No.31799

>>31797

According to the bible there is sex, drinking and eating in heaven.

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5ba39a  No.31800

>>31797

I didn't say it was wrong. I said it shouldn't be the focus of one's life. The idea of "ooh I get sweet orgies in Paradise!" is a terrible way to intent your good deeds. You should follow Islam, submit yourself to God, and do good things because it's the right thing to do - not because you desire a harem of lolis.

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4c0981  No.31801

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>>31800

You're asking for something that is impossible for humans, we are fundamentally engineered to orient everything around our self interest. God did not create heaven and hell for nothing.

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5ba39a  No.31804

>>31801

>impossible for humans

I'm' not sure you understand what the word "impossible" means.

>we are fundamentally engineered to orient everything around our self interest

If that were true, then it would be "impossible" to submit to God.

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ade029  No.31805

>>31799

I'm curious, which verse.

>>31804

Well it's against our self interest to not submit to God, because then we burn. If hell didn't exist, a lot wouldn't even bother with religion, and there's nothing wrong with that.

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4c0981  No.31812

>>31804

>I'm' not sure you understand what the word "impossible" means.

I mean what I said.

>If that were true, then it would be "impossible" to submit to God.

It is in the absolute sense, we can only submit in so far as our nature allows us to.

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da9c16  No.31839

>heaven is about sex, comfort, relaxation and self-pleasure

No

>heaven is about painful, intense and amazing struggle towards God

yes.

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da9c16  No.31842

>>31812

>>31801

>You're asking for something that is impossible for humans, we are fundamentally engineered to orient everything around our self interest. God did not create heaven and hell for nothing.

Thankfully God has a higher view of man than you do.

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4c0981  No.31846

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>>31842

>Your opinion makes me feel icky, have a snide remark

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30d473  No.31855

>>31842

What's wrong with what he said?

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b71868  No.31888

>>31855

man has free-will so he's not obliged to automatically be "fundamentally engineered to orient everything around our self interest" as if it was "impossible for humans" to chose otherwise. The anon mentioned that God created "heaven and hell" for something, well yes, but they only make sense if man has free-will to go against his "programming". Simple.

>>31846

0

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4c0981  No.31889

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>>31888

>man has free-will so he's not obliged to automatically be "fundamentally engineered to orient everything around our self interest"

That's like saying we have free-will therefore we can grow wings if we want to.

>The anon mentioned that God created "heaven and hell" for something, well yes, but they only make sense if man has free-will to go against his "programming". Simple.

No, it still makes sense because this fundamental programming is not what distinguishes between people of the hell fire and people of heaven. What distinguishes between these groups is knowledge of their interests and ability to act to fulfill those interests in the greatest sense. Some will prioritise immediate self-interest and as a result will harm their greater self-interest.

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30d473  No.31890

>>31888

I mean it's not 100% impossible, but it's way harder to do something without a good or bad incentive. Some ppl can be devoted to worship all their lives and not expect anything in return from Allah, but most can't. So it's a general rule that humans will compete for their desires and self interest. But Allah directs that competition for something that is good i.e jannah. Islam is a realistic religion, it does not expect everyone to be monks. So it promises everyone, something similar but far superior to the good things we love in this dunya. As to give us a goal that we can try to imagine and work towards.

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a39a8e  No.31895

>>31889

>if you say free-will lets people make choices that's like saying people can grow wings!

what??

you should understand the words you're using.

having free-will doesn't mean we can chose to do impossible things, like growing wings. If you thinking picking between right and wrong is like growing wings you're totally confused. Read a book.

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4c0981  No.31897

>>31895

It is you who must understand the words they are using and must read a book. Acting morally and acting in your self interest are not antithetical, in fact I believe them to be the same thing.

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27e8ef  No.31899

>>31897

>I do what is right only insofar as it benefits me

this is not morality, this is egoism and poison.

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4c0981  No.31902

>>31899 (checked)

>this is not morality, this is egoism and poison.

Egoism is a morality and it is the reality of humanity, we do nothing except that we feel there will be some benefit in it.

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