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0dc77f No.30229
What is the scholarly ruling on steroids my friends?
I watched this talk by Feiz Muhammad but I don't find his arguments against them convincing.
Testosterone injections are bio-identical to our naturally produced testosterone, the advantage is we can control the level.
He says doing this is going against the creation of Allah, but such simple logic could be used to prohibit all sorts of things we do to our bodies or put in our bodies. Tylenol is more unnatural than testosterone, and is actually more deadly.
What's wrong with wanting to be stronger, muscular, faster, more motivated and energized, have a better libido and better quality of life? Testosterone is like the fountain of youth.
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313847 No.30236
Steroids do serious damage to your body, putting you at greater risk of heart attack, stopping your body's natural testosterone production, depression, making you impotent. It's pretty clear that it's detrimental to your body, steroids don't make you that much stronger and in fact reduce the amount of work you can get out of the muscle mass you have in exchange for giving you more muscle mass. Natty body builders are healthier and stronger.
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1f3acc No.30238
>>30236
Can someone who knows what they're talking about respond? Thanks.
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313847 No.30240
>>30238
Nice cognitive dissonance, stop deluding yourself.
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3f6ef3 No.30242
>>30238
>can someone who agrees with me respond?
ftfy
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dfcbc9 No.30243
If you don't have a medical NEED for testosterone injection I don't think you can use it. Because there's some bad side effects. I assume that you have 2 perfectly healthy testicles that do their job, so keep natural.
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f24c6a No.30272
>>30238
Natural body regulation of testosterone:
-Varies according to regimen and physical exercise of the use, especially for cardio workouts.
Intended use for testosterone injections:
-Erectile dysfunction, and other symptoms of lack of testosterone production.
Side effects with at the very least 1% occurence in the population using it:
-Emotional changes.
-Hair fall.
-Migraine
-Aggressivity
-Troubled sleep, with risk of sleep apnea.
-Weight gain.
Uncommon side effects but with high risk:
-Irregular heartbeat
-Breast inflammation
-Leg and shin inflammation
-4 hour, painful erection
-Blood stones in legs or arms.
-Depression
-Liver problems: White feces, dark urine, yellow skin and eyes, nausea and abdominal pain
Rare but deadly side effects:
-Heart disease.
-Major allergic reaction.
The person who spoke previously does know what they talk about, but has not formulated it in the technical terms you seem to wish for.
Since what you describe your wishes to be is mostly related to power and dominance, the easiest way to reach your goals is to read on practical psychology and leadership.
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4c88da No.30297
I don't think steroids are haram. They're not an intoxicant.
But, I definitely wouldn't recommend supplementing testosterone if you have a healthy male endocrine system. Talk to a medical professional if you have reason to suspect your testosterone is low… take it from a trans girl, this hormone stuff is risky bizz.
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afdb09 No.30300
Steroids are neutral, just depends how you use them. Dumbies shouldn't touch them, if you're strict and disciplined you will do fine.
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313847 No.30319
>>30297
Cyanide isn't an intoxicant, it's still haram.
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dfcbc9 No.30336
>>30297
It's still haram, so is hormonal castration.
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514d17 No.30337
>>30336
But what is your argument? Have you even done steroids?
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313847 No.30338
>>30337
There have been plenty of points raised in this thread already
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303047 No.30339
>>30338
Low probability side effects that can be easily managed/avoided aren't sufficient arguments. Food and exercise have side effects too.
What is haram about them, specifically?
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3f6ef3 No.30340
>>30339
Why are you shilling so hard for steroids? Are you trying to justify your taking of them or are you a steroid salesman?
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9f0b3b No.30360
>>30337
imo its probably haram, but hey im not a scholar, shrink your balls at your own risk son
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313847 No.30362
>>30339
>Low probability side effects that can be easily managed/avoided aren't sufficient arguments.
You're deluding yourself if you think any impactful dosage isn't going to mess you up, you're not some special guy who knows more than everyone else.
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380782 No.30365
>>30339
These are not low probability
Your body automatically regulates testosterone to optimal levels.
If your testosterone input is not at the level required by your body, then:
If the testosterone is too low, you get, among other things, erectile dysfunction
If the testosterone input is too high, you're thrashing your heart and personality.
Work out, and as I said before, if you want to be dominant, read psychology. No use for large muscles if you're mentally weak.
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67bfb5 No.30367
Before steroids I was an atheist and after using steroids I was a Muslim, so take that what you will. Part of it was just growin up but another part is definitely aggression.
Like the other anon said, Mohammad Hijab is definitely a steroid user (and were a lot of other Muslims if you want to do the research lol)
Stay away from them. Narcissism.
>>30238
They do raise your blood pressure. I was borderline hypertensive. I felt like I was being pricked by needles. Since stopping them my heart rate has gone down from 60s back into the 50s.
Even protein powder and creative are haram. If you doubt me then just look of the videos of more educated Muslims burning drugs (like confiscated Marlboro cigarettes). Surely they know why they are haram. Probably since it is manufactured and unnatural and filled with contaminants. >>30272
I can confirm all of this. When i started using steroids the first few weeks not a moment, not a MOMENT passed without myself considering jumping off the nearest tower. However like I said it may have just been immaturity and unbelief that led me to these thoughts. Steroids didn’t help though, I got awful bacne and my face was very oiley.
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9f0b3b No.30374
>>30367
Hijab is natty. Delts are proportioned. No acne. It's just egyptian genes man.
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1f3bdf No.30378
>>30365
things aren't haram because they make your skin oily, or give you 'side effects' that are easily countered.
I'm not talking about doing pro-bodybuilder doses that are actually very hard to manage. But mild doses that can be run long-term with no issues, totally different things.
Also just by mere principle risk doesn't equate with evil. Climbing mountains, surfing, and driving on the highway is risky, you can get handicapped or killed. etc. Doesn't make them a moral evil that must be avoided.
>>30367
> When i started using steroids the first few weeks not a moment, not a MOMENT passed without myself considering jumping off the nearest tower. However like I said it may have just been immaturity and unbelief that led me to these thoughts. Steroids didn’t help though, I got awful bacne and my face was very oiley.
Uhh steroids have been shown to relieve depression, and oily skin is really easy to counter. I was naturally prone to acne as a teenager, and have perfect skin on steroids.
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1f3bdf No.30379
>>30367
> Mohammad Hijab is definitely a steroid user
wut? lmao you think this implies steroids? >>30319
he hasn't even made his 6month newb gains ahahah
>>30374
>it's just egyptian genes
he's just tall and lanky, he isn't muscular by natty standards
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9f0b3b No.30392
>>30379
He's tall and still looks muscular, shorter you are the bigger you look, he's tall and looks big, so it shows you how much muscle he really has.
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2f876d No.30395
>>30392
he's soft and lean with no biceps, tris or shoulders, it's nothing, the white dude beside him actually has some muscle tho
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313847 No.30399
>>30379
>He hasn't even made 6 month newb gains
Do you know how old that pic is?
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9f0b3b No.30404
>>30395
sorry but you don't know what you're talking about
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0ead8c No.30408
>>30399
>>30404
I know a new, natural lifter when I see them.
What do you want me to say? You think this is impressive or something?
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3f6ef3 No.30420
>>30408
I don't know if that's impressive or not because I'm not attracted to men. Maybe you can enlighten us. :^)
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4c88da No.30430
>>30408
Does he shave his arms or something? I don't know why bodybuilders do that, it's really unattractive.
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0dc77f No.30474
>>30420
>I can't tell if a man is obese or not, fit or not, because that's like totally gay
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3f6ef3 No.30475
>>30474
>misses the joke
You need to turn that meme back on yourself.
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0b52e0 No.30477
If rape is halal then steroids are too.
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3f6ef3 No.30480
>>30477
Well, rape is not halal, so …
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0dc77f No.30482
>>30475
>muh :^) = insurance policy, I was only pretending!
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3f6ef3 No.30483
>>30482
Yes. That is literally what the :^) means. It signifies sarcasm. I'm sorry you don't understand that, but perhaps it means you need to lurk more instead of posting.
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9f0b3b No.30497
>>30430
>it's really unattractive.
Good, men should not find other men attractive.
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1dccaf No.30509
>>30483
putting :^) doesn't make a joke good or sarcasm witty, your post was still dumb
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3f6ef3 No.30512
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