671211 No.29057
Christian boards have yielded mixed results, but now I'm wondering what other major belief systems think of these enigmatic beings. Do you hold similar views to your Christian contemporaries, or do you have something new to bring to the table?
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0a3a16 No.29058
>>29057
Can you give us some sauce as to what this "fossil man" is and why we should care?
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671211 No.29060
>>29058
>some sauce as to what this "fossil man" is
Well basically, just various fossil forms found on several continents that resemble human beings, yet appear anatomically distinct in some ways such as in the brain and body.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_human_evolution_fossils
Just something to help you get started.
>why we should care?
Well it's certainly an origins issue, so I'd think y'all would wanna be on top of things.
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0b2436 No.29065
Deception and laws brought by the Dajjal (Scientists) who were longtime members of the Masonic Order. Call me crazy or a nutty for all I care, but I agree on the Trinis with this one. I strongly deny the existence and theiry of dinosaurs, evolution, hominids, space-travel, multiverse or any field of study that is out to challenge the existence of the Almighty.
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83cf11 No.29066
>>29060
We do believe that there were many different types of human beings in the past. For example we know that at earlier times the people(of Noah(AS)) used to live way longer. We know that there were people who were very tall, etc. However, even though we believe that human beings can change over time and that there were many variations among human tribes, we do not believe in the darwinian model of evolution that states drastic speciation can occur out of these variations.
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671211 No.29067
>>29066
>time of Noah
>giants and extreme longevity
>variation among human groups
That's about on par with the Christian creation model, though only one of many. So do you have a universal line that one can draw between man and ape, or is it a case-by-case thing?
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83cf11 No.29068
>>29067
Like I said before, we don't believe man came from fish to rat to ape to human. We believe in variation but we don't believe in dramatic speciation as discussed in the darwinian model.
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671211 No.29069
>>29068
How to put this in a way you'd understand…usually creationists consider these fossils to be representatives of one form or another, either an ape or a man with nothing in between. I'm just asking what the extent of "man" is in your definition, like what forms in that list would you consider kin to yourself as a separate tribe?
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83cf11 No.29070
>>29069
That depends on more than just the fossil itself. We can never be 100% certain about things like that. It'd require a complete fossil itself as well as other factors like in which condition it was found, along with what, what are the things about it that we can be absolutely sure of. Even then there'd be confusion. For example there was a time when scientists interchanged the head and tail of elasmosaurus at first. There's also the case of scientists saying dinosaurs had feathers after a long time of thinking otherwise. I forgot the details but there was a turkish/arab man who found a jaw and initially people thought it belonged to a neanderthal but it later turned out to be his/someone else's grandfather's. We can never be 100% sure. Unless scientists stop changing the definitions of 'species' just to match the darwinian model or forming all of theories based off of the darwinian model instead of relying on the evidence itself to form a better base model, we won't get a better way of differenciating between fossils. And that is unlikely.
This question is more suited for experts who have personal, first hand experience with research.
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671211 No.29071
>>29070
So it is on a case-by-case basis, ok that's good.
>experts who have personal, first hand experience with research
The few creationists that could be considered experts aren't very reliable either, with some propsing vastly different ideas. To put into perspective you have Jack Cuozzo, a dentist who proposed that neanderthals were extremely ancient people, while also claiming that beings such as erectus were "complex apes" that could walk and make tools like humans. On the other hand you have Todd Wood who, through studying the various pieces of the skulls, came to the conclusion that everything down to sediba was in fact human. I did a little thing to give some visualization, red represents creatures the person considers "ape" while the blue is "human"
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bd749e No.29072
>>29057
Well, since we're not "young earth creationists", it comes as no surprise that Allah would create a wide variety of wondrous creatures throughout the millennia. We should always continue to study his amazing creation.
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3a1efe No.29091
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c20bf4 No.29277
>>29067
>Still believing in universal common descent
Scientists can't even figure out which species evolved from which because the difference between cases of convergent and divergent evolution are not clear at all yet people still parrot Richard Dawkins and spout nonsense about us having a common ancestor with chimps despite the ridiculous birth and mutation rate such an event would require.
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