7665b9 No.29056
One of my faults is a deep attachment to k-pop. I never thought it could be haram until one of my friends said "What if the sahaba saw you listening to this stuff?" and made me think….
What do you guys think of
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7mPqycQ0tQ
or
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDg70hXP-Kc
I don't even see it in a sexual or lewd way, to me its just cute, catchy and impressive, I like the dancing and art of it.
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424254 No.29059
>>29056
Alright, ill take the bullet and attempt to watch these videos.
>1st link
Korean women not wearing hijabs singing some song in a language I cant understand, while they are in a store looking at clothes. Never mentioning Allah (swt) and song is most likely about: shopping and/or boys
>2nd link
Couldn't make it past the play button as korean woman in thumbnail is exposing her belly and probably singing about the same stuff as the first link.
My verdict:
HARAM
Dont waste your time viewing these videos as no good will come of it.
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7665b9 No.29061
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7665b9 No.29063
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6010d5 No.29073
>>29056
>to me
There is no "to me" in Islam. If something is halal, it is because Allah declared it so. If something is haram, it is because Allah declared it so. Your personal opinion is meaningless.
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7665b9 No.29074
>>29073
I agree. But we can't ask Allah which videos are haram and which aren't we have to use our own judgments. No? Some are obvious, some aren't.
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6010d5 No.29075
>>29074
If there are women prancing around uncovered, then the video is haram. (24:31) As for the music itself, well, I have no idea what they're singing about. It is best to err on the side of caution.
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6010d5 No.29076
>>29063
>this might convince you
Convince us of what, exactly? Are you trying to say that k-pop is acceptable when you already admitted it to be "one of your faults"?
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424254 No.29077
>>29063
Repent twords Allah (swt) and away from the shaytan, friend.
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465793 No.29078
>>29075
I try to avoid the ones where they are showing too much skin. This one is fairly innocent https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3_QjEIyxCQ
>>29077
Thanks, I try and repent often for other things , but lust is under control now that I have a fiance.
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05f364 No.29080
If you think it's bad for you, give yourself a challenge and try avoiding it for the rest of Ramadan. Once you've got a clear mind, try listening to it again to see if you still like it. Worst that can happen is that you've at least used Ramadan as a chance to improve.
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465793 No.29081
>>29080
interesting idea, thanks, might give that a try
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f7d3ed No.29172
>>29063
This is pretty cute brothers. But also dangerous.
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b6c27c No.29760
>>29059
>Expecting koreans to wear Hijabs.
how funny because Azeri's and many other asians above syria and the 2 stans don't need them.
why do every woman need hijabs if their outside of the middle east?
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fd909c No.29767
>>29760
Because men outside the middle east are also horny (despite what their plummeting testosterone might have you believe).
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6010d5 No.29768
>>29760
Because God's command doesn't have borders.
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61097e No.29885
>>29056
But music is haraam, so if it's haraam already what does it matter if the videoclip is "cute" or "explicit"
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4e91bb No.29888
>>29885
For the millionth time music is not Haram.
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9925ee No.29889
>>29888
You can say it's your opinion, or that you deny hadith about it. Because all 4 imams of fiqh say it is.
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4e91bb No.29891
>>29889
No, they disagree on what 'music' means. Some allow instruments, others say voice and drum only, some say none.
If they can't make up their minds, then I can rightly ignore them as weak hadith.
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9925ee No.29892
>>29891
In that case, will you reject anything that has a difference of opinion?
(btw modern music would still be haram even with those conditions)
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4e91bb No.29894
>>29892
There can be no difference of opinion. It is either haraam or it isn't. If the scholars can't agree, then I am free to decide for myself using Quran. Quran does not explicitly forbid music.
Further, the Psalms are songs and David played stringed instruments. If music were forbidden, we would not have Psalms.
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dd9dbc No.29896
>>29894
>Using the Bible to justify your Islamic precepts
Interesting. I guess…why not?
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44762c No.29914
>>29896
Are you unaware that the Psalms are one of Islam's holy books?
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9925ee No.29929
>>29914
Are you unaware that we don't use the bible as proof in fiqh?
Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: The view of the four Imaams is that all kinds of musical instruments are haraam. It was reported in Saheeh al-Bukhaari and elsewhere that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said that there would be among his ummah those who would allow zinaa, silk, alcohol and musical instruments, and he said that they would be transformed into monkeys and pigs… None of the followers of the imaams mentioned any dispute concerning the matter of music. (al-Majmoo’, 11/576).
Al-Albaani (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: The four madhhabs are agreed that all musical instruments are haraam. (al-Saheehah, 1/145).
https://islamqa.info/en/5000
Again, you can be a sect that has a different opinion on music, but don't claim ahlul sunnah accept it.
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251381 No.29932
>>29056
>I don't even see it in a sexual or lewd way
Whatever you say, wanker
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e705c8 No.29948
>>29929
There are sunni scholars that have not viewed it as haram.
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4fe8a8 No.29949
>>29932
A healthy person doesn't see gross plastic idols as attractive.
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e705c8 No.29951
>>29949
Help me out doc, what disease do I have if I find k-pop singers attractive?
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ac190c No.29952
>>29929
>Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah said:
Not my scholar. Sorry.
>>29951
your testosterone is high. you need more soy and plastic in your diet.
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5b726f No.30758
Why do Korean girls hate Arabs and africans? I feel so anxious
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7cce71 No.30784
>>30758
They don't, they just hate you.
t.arab
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609471 No.30848
>>30784
They told me its cultural
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7cce71 No.30852
>>30848
perhaps, im just kidding, but I never had problems with any asians, boys or girls, they were nice to me
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dd706c No.30853
>>30852
For dating its different, friends is okay
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63f810 No.30899
>>29929
There is some question about strength of that hadith, it has multiple narratios with different versions
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7cce71 No.30916
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