52f48b No.22740[Last 50 Posts]
I have become so disgusted with the state of the West, particularly the state of the Catholic church I was born into. This is not just a political exercise. I had a genuine religious experience and felt the presence of Allah. I read the Qur'an and said the Shahada.
I am not getting circumcised because it is not mandatory in Islam. My future sons can decide for themselves when they turn 18. I only speak English, no Arabic, so becoming Muslim is a bit daunting. I have a Muslim friend who is helping me through things.
In the West, we are given a choice between being a communist cuck and a fascist pig. I reject both and choose Islam.
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e3f712 No.22742
Allahu Akbar!
Idris Tawfiq was a Catholic Priest trained in Vatican City , he is now a muslim and lectures at al-Azhar University. I recommend his lectures to you my beloved. Remember there are good things in the West too and we want to redeem it, not destroy it. Welcome, brother.
& please pray for all of us here since you're the best muslim here because you have no sin. Thank you.
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52f48b No.22743
>>22742
>& please pray for all of us here since you're the best muslim here because you have no sin.
Thank you. I pray that the Ummah knows peace soon, and that these trying times pass.
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277c8e No.22746
>>22740
>I am not getting circumcised because it is not mandatory in Islam.
Yes, it is. While I am glad you're coming home to Islam, make sure your friend isn't misguiding you.
Unless there is a reason, medically, that you cannot be circumcised, then you must be circumcised. If it will not cause you great harm, then it is required. However, do not delay in your conversion to Islam. Work out the details later.
The Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give peace) said: “The practices related to Fitrah (natural human ways) are five: Circumcision, shaving the pubic hair, trimming the moustache, cutting the nails and removing the hair of the underarm” (Sahih al-Bukhari, n0. 5550)
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6f522a No.22751
ALLAHU AKBAR
ALLAHU AKBAR
ALLAHU AKBAR
Congratulations dear brother, welcome.
It won't nullify your Islam but it'd be better if you were circumcised. I was raised in the Anglican Church and circumcised, this was beneficial when I became Muslim, Alhamdulillah. Ibrahim (pbuh) performed it on himself.
My advice is to keep this matter to yourself and revisit it in your thoughts once you are more settled in Islam. Pace yourself, it can feel like trying to drink from a firehose after you revert.
Fatwa of Sheikh bin Baz on circumcision of reverts: https://youtu.be/VjZfyUR8aD4 (highly highly desirable)
Fatwa of Sheikh asSheikh on circumcision of reverts: https://youtu.be/5NiBWF8pP5E (required)
Now when it comes to any future sons, inshaAllah, then you owe it to them to have them circumcised when young so they don't have confusion later in life regarding their muslim identity. After the circumcision there is usually a feast called aqiqah, this is a joyous occasion and the formal introduction of the child to the community.
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6f034a No.22821
>In the West, we are given a choice between being a communist cuck and a fascist pig.
True.
>I reject both and choose Islam.
MashaAllah. You chose Islam, because Allah (swt) chose you.
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18b303 No.22834
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55f469 No.22852
I'm also a Catholic that's thought about converting to Islam since I was 16 y/o (20 now), but I will probably remain as a Catholic for my family. It would devastate them if I left.
I thought about converting in secret, but that would be too difficult to do in the long term, probably. How would I secretly get married and secretly raise a family?
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7a6872 No.22866
They get over it eventually bro. The quicker you peel off that bandaid, the better. Your plight reminds me of Anselm Turmeda. He was a catholic priest who found out the most learned instructor in the seminary was a secret muslim. And checkout Idris Tawfiq on YouTube, he was a Vatican trained priest who is now a muslim scholar in Egypt.
Everybody, pray for this brother please.
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55f469 No.22868
>>22866
Thanks for the insight, you're probably right.
The only masjid near my house is Salafi; would I be allowed to go there?
I know that the Salafi movement is traditional and I'm not sure if they'd appreciate the whitest European guy possible showing up. I've tried to look at pics and it seems to be mostly Arabs there.
They're also going to have a Dawah stand in my city this weekend, should I go there and explain my situation? Maybe this would be the best opportunity to say the Shahada with witnesses.
I might convert in secret, maybe Allah will know my intentions, but I will still have to be a Catholic in front of my family.
Thanks and may God bless you.
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7a6872 No.22869
>>22868
Bro, I'm a white salafi. You will bring joy to the brothers, traditional != racist. All of our mosques are open to eachother. When I lived in an area with a lot of muslims I went to all the mosques but mostly salafi. Now I live far from salafi mosques so I go to a non-salafi mosque usually.
You can take shahada at any sunni mosque and become salafi. Or at a salafi mosque and then not be a salafi. I took shahada in a big proper mosque just because I'd never been in one before. I just walked in and told them to make me a muslim.
Definitely explain your situation to them, bro.
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277c8e No.22872
>>22868
>would I be allowed to go there?
Of course! All are welcome in the house of God. Do not hesitate.
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55f469 No.22875
>>22869
>>22872
Thank you!
I will try going to the Dawah stand this weekend first, meet some of them and then maybe get invited to their mosque.
I'm really excited. :D
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7a6872 No.22876
>>22875
>>22875
I'm excited too!!!! A new muslim brother and a curious friend in the same thread!
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b19d46 No.22877
>>22740
<In the West, we are given a choice between being a communist cuck and a fascist pig.
Are you even a Westerner? I'm sure Doha is nice and warm this time of year…..why don't you step outside.
<I reject both and choose Islam.
So you decided to take the worst elements of both and combine it into one.
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7a6872 No.22878
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a35eac No.22879
>>22877
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They banned kaffirs in South Africa as well. Anti-racism is anti-Islam. .
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7a6872 No.22881
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3e7081 No.22882
>>22877
>rambling nonsense to new brother
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f3c1dd No.22883
disgusting filth from a disbeliever about genitalia and mocking the self-circumcision of Ibrahim (pbuh) removed
MOD EDIT: Well, you brothers have triggered some kufs big time, Alhamdulillah.
They desire to extinguish Allah´s Light with their mouths but Allah will perfect His Light, though the kafirun hate it. 61:8
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277c8e No.22884
>>22883
They fear new converts because it is a reminder that Allah's perfect religion is stronger than their trinkets and bread.
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148503 No.22886
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148503 No.22891
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>>22885
Perhaps in my zeal I was overly harsh towards Christians here due to their grotesque remarks and harassment of our new brother. There are some good men in their religion.
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bed79c No.22892
>>22869
>>22885
Bro, I hope you can help me with one more thing: how do you deal with your family? Since you're a former Christian.
I really love them and don't want to break their heart. They're very good people. I've been dropped subtle hints about Islam since I was 16, but that's not enough.
If I ended up becoming a Muslim, should I wait until I have a wife/kid to tell them? Otherwise they might try converting me back and that would just lead to more hurt feelings. I feel like if they saw that I'm happy, they might be happy for me.
Also, does Islam teach they'll go to hell? I've heard varied answers to this.
Thanks for all the help!
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939682 No.22894
>>22892
>Bro, I hope you can help me with one more thing: how do you deal with your family? Since you're a former Christian.
Good day, bro. It seems like your family is composed of people with shared beliefs. My parents are a mixed marriage: my father was raised catholic but became an atheist when he was 12 and stayed that way. My mother was raised Anglican and was actually a Sunday school teacher. So from my Dad's side I'm familiar with the rambunctious catholic family with lotsa cousins. From my Mom's side I'm familiar with the stoicism, jockeying, and stiff upper lip of blueblood Christianity.
How do I deal with them? As in the present tense? The answer is wonderfully. But that wasn't always the case. More than a decade ago my family mentioned my conversion to the extended catholic family and one of them immediately called various govt agencies on me hi fbi. So yes, the FBI came to my parents house and parked their cars in a way that blocked in all of our cars and "checked on me" to make sure I was "ok…" But after that my father cut off his lousy mooch brother and none of us have talked to them since.
I tried to have my family involved in the search for my wife as much as possible. My father was helpful and so was my sister, but my mom dragged her feet the whole time and didn't even come to my wedding, bro. In the longterm though things are great for the family because they like my wife, they have the first grandchild, they have amazing in-laws. So everything worked out in the end. The best thing you can do is get a wife that your mom, other family too but mostly your mom likes. Trust me. Makes your life about 10x easier when your mom likes your wife.
>I really love them and don't want to break their heart. They're very good people. I've been dropped subtle hints about Islam since I was 16, but that's not enough.
If the response to these hints leads you to believe it'd cause some anguish in your family then I suggest moving out if you still live at home. When I became muslim I still lived at home and my father suddenly started to act all dominant and aggressive towards everyone, mostly me. I remember one night my father told my mom "Dammit, if you were a muslim woman you would listen to me!" Then my mom screamed "If you were a muslim man you wouldn't be drunk right now!" That was too weird so I moved out.
>If I ended up becoming a Muslim, should I wait until I have a wife/kid to tell them?
That's definitely a bad idea because then they'll blame you for not being at your wedding. You have to give them the option so they have no one to blame but themselves.
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939682 No.22895
>>22894
>Also, does Islam teach they'll go to hell? I've heard varied answers to this.
The strongest opinion on this issue is backed up by the tafsir of the "nor shall they grieve" verse, other verses, the ahadith collection, is that yes, people of the book are heading towards a fiery punishment unless they repent from denying the Messiah (pbuh) (Jews) or ascribing a son to Allah (swt) (Christians). Allah swt knows best.
There will be "Jews" and "Christians" in heaven though, these will be the followers of Musa (pbuh) and Isa (pbuh) who were the muslims of their time.
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939682 No.22898
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http://www.express.co.uk/news/science/726549/Jesus-Christ-divine-christianity-book-of-james-crucifixion
By Sean Martin
PUBLISHED: 12:42, Sat, Oct 29, 2016 | UPDATED: 15:04, Sat, Oct 29, 2016
JESUS Christ was NOT the Son of God, was not divine and was probably not even crucified, according to letters allegedly written by his own family.
Letters which have emerged seemingly written by his own family and those closest too him in the few years after Christ’s death - which many scholars agree was in the early 30s AD - paint Jesus as a mortal.
It is widely accepted that Jesus had several younger siblings.
The Gospel of Mark and The Gospel of Matthew both state that Jesus had four brothers – James, Joses (or Joseph), Jude (or Judas – but not THAT Judas) and Simon, while both books also claim that he had several unnamed sisters.
However, the letters written by James and Jude both fail to state that Jesus was divine or the Son of God.
The Bible's teachings of Jesus may be wrong
In the original Book of James, which is believed to have been written in the first century making it one of the oldest Christian texts, it describes Jesus as his followers’ “master”, but there is no mention of divinity.
There is not even a mention that Jesus was crucified – one of the cornerstones of the Christian faith.
In a Dr Robert Beckford documentary called ‘The Secret of Jesus’, James Tabor, a Professor in the Department of Religious Studies at the University of North Carolina, says that the letters from James, the younger brother of Jesus, blow Christianity wide open.
He said: “The thing about the Book of James, it’s the teachings of Jesus, not the teachings about Jesus. James passes on what he got from his brother – you could say it has no theology.
“Doesn’t mention the cross of Christ, doesn’t mention the blood of Jesus, doesn’t mention forgiving sins through believing in the Lord – nothing like that.”
One of the earliest Christian books – The Didache or The Teachings of the Twelve Apostles – which was written when Christ’s surviving family were still alive in the first century AD, also seems to paint Jesus as a human, and recommends people follow his teachings, rather than the man himself.
The crucifixion of Christ is not mentioned in several early Christian texts
In the Didache, there is again no reference to the virgin birth, the resurrection, and most significantly of Jesus as God, but rather as his servant.
The ancient book also details early Communion where there is no detail of bread and wine being the blood and body of Christ.
The Didache does not mention the resurrection of Christ
The early Christian church hid these books for centuries in order to push a different story of Christ. However, one seems to have slipped through.
In The Bible, a letter from Jude, another of Christ’s brothers, seems to show that the people who personally knew Jesus were growing tired of the followers who had jumped onto Christianity and were pushing the divine agenda. The passage from Jude reads: “These are grumblers, malcontents, following their own sinful desires. They are loud mouth boasters flattering people to gain advantage."
Mr Tabor added: “[Jude is] getting very worried and he’s telling the little group that will still listen to him – I think in effect he’s saying ‘don’t listen to all these new things that are coming along. You fight hard for that original faith that was delivered to us’.”
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55f469 No.22899
>>22894
I'm so happy that it worked out for you and congrats on getting married!
> It seems like your family is composed of people with shared beliefs.
Yeah, that's the case. They're all Catholics.
I'm not worried about them doing anything crazy, but I'm just worried about the possible disappointment from them. I'm the most Catholic person in my family and they always liked that. :/
>I tried to have my family involved in the search for my wife as much as possible. My father was helpful and so was my sister, but my mom dragged her feet the whole time and didn't even come to my wedding, bro.
Sorry to hear about your mom, but it's good that some of your family had a helping hand in it.
I often hear read that a halal marriage requires walis on both sides and that there's no dating in the sense that we have in Christianity. Is this true for the current generation of Muslims or is it something that their parents did? Although I expect that the Salafis are more likely to do this.
>In the longterm though things are great for the family because they like my wife, they have the first grandchild, they have amazing in-laws. So everything worked out in the end.
Nice. :D Sorry if I might be rude: I assume you married someone that was a born Muslim, was there any problem with her parents in that aspect? I've been frequenting r/Islam for years now and a common issue I see is that Muslim parents don't want their daughters to marry outside their culture.
>If the response to these hints leads you to believe it'd cause some anguish in your family then I suggest moving out if you still live at home.
Yeah, I plan to move out as soon as I finish my university studies in 2 years. If theoretically I had a Muslim family, are there any rules that prevent my wife and children from seeing my non-Muslim family?
> I remember one night my father told my mom "Dammit, if you were a muslim woman you would listen to me!" Then my mom screamed "If you were a muslim man you wouldn't be drunk right now!" That was too weird so I moved out.
Dang. :/
>That's definitely a bad idea because then they'll blame you for not being at your wedding. You have to give them the option so they have no one to blame but themselves.
That's true! Thanks so much.
>>22895
That's sad to hear, but it's understandable.
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579282 No.22902
moo-ham-head is a fat paki, wanks himself off with bacon in hell
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939682 No.22903
>>22899
Thank you for your brotherly happiness, I appreciate it very much.
>I often hear read that a halal marriage requires walis on both sides and that there's no dating in the sense that we have in Christianity. Is this true for the current generation of Muslims or is it something that their parents did? Although I expect that the Salafis are more likely to do this.
Practicing muslims don't allow dating, no matter the school of thought, we do a supervised courtship. The two people can talk to eachother in a one on one conversation but there are elders from both families in the room at all times. The principle in Islam is if something is prohibited then that which leads to it is also prohibited. And when a man and an unrelated woman are alone, there is never just the two, always three, because Shaytan is the third partner.
My wife was in the US studying but her family was overseas. I met her family on Skype and her father gave me permission to get to know his daughter in a mosque with an Imam acting as the wali. My father always told me to avoid American women if at all possible and suggested I marry a woman from a different country. I'm happy with how things worked out, we are raising our baby to speak three languages inshaAllah. I also have a massive extended family in a Mediterranean muslim country. That's where we go on our vacations and where I will retire, inshaAllah. Going from a country that is 1% muslim to a country that is 99.9% muslim is both exhilarating and relaxing.
>Nice. :D Sorry if I might be rude: I assume you married someone that was a born Muslim, was there any problem with her parents in that aspect? I've been frequenting r/Islam for years now and a common issue I see is that Muslim parents don't want their daughters to marry outside their culture.
Not rude whatsoever, yes you're correct. Posts at a place like r/islam will be self-selected to be mini-meltdowns, it is reddit afterall. When muslims make the halal hard they make the haram easy. But even if the objection from a family is stupid and unIslamic it still stands and needs to be obeyed though not respected. A revert marrying a born muslim needs spiritual support from the in-laws. People can only give what they have; these cultural families are in need of spiritual support themselves, they can't give what they don't have. For every family like them you will find many that just want to make sure they have a practicing muslimbro that can provide for their daughter.
In order to reduce "decision fatigue" I suggest reverts that want to marry born muslims choose which language/culture they're most interested in and then meet people from there. That helps narrow down things, I mean we are talking about almost 1 billion muslim sisters in the world. But if a revert sees "the one" in a masjid parking lot or their friend wants to make an introduction then go for it. Taking a fine toothed comb to a billion sisters always just seemed overwhelming to me.
>Yeah, I plan to move out as soon as I finish my university studies in 2 years. If theoretically I had a Muslim family, are there any rules that prevent my wife and children from seeing my non-Muslim family?
We can go into synagogues and Unitarian Christian churches with no idols and graven images if there's a funeral. We can't go inside Pagan churches. And I visit my family for New Years, Thanksgiving, Fourth of July… not for Christmas, not for Easter. We have two holidays, our next holiday is one week away. We have a special lecture and prayer, we eat sweets, then we go to the farm and slaughter lambs. I slaughter, disembowel, skin, butcher, make carpets from the wool. We give a lamb to the muslims in the inner city that are struggling and we keep a lamb for us. If we do a cow we'll give at least half the cow to the struggling muslims.
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55f469 No.22925
>Practicing muslims don't allow dating, no matter the school of thought, we do a supervised courtship. The two people can talk to eachother in a one on one conversation but there are elders from both families in the room at all times. The principle in Islam is if something is prohibited then that which leads to it is also prohibited. And when a man and an unrelated woman are alone, there is never just the two, always three, because Shaytan is the third partner.
This certainly sounds like a better approach than what we have in the west. I've been trying to date (to find a wife) and most women expect you to fornicate. I have always had trouble even finding Christian women serious about their faith. Heck, I go to a Christian university and I'm friends with more Muslim women than Christian women.
>My wife was in the US studying but her family was overseas. I met her family on Skype and her father gave me permission to get to know his daughter in a mosque with an Imam acting as the wali. My father always told me to avoid American women if at all possible and suggested I marry a woman from a different country. I'm happy with how things worked out, we are raising our baby to speak three languages inshaAllah. I also have a massive extended family in a Mediterranean muslim country. That's where we go on our vacations and where I will retire, inshaAllah. Going from a country that is 1% muslim to a country that is 99.9% muslim is both exhilarating and relaxing.
They sound like really good people! This lifts a lot of weight off my shoulders, actually. In all of my research about Islam I always assumed that you needed to have practicing family to act as walis and that converts were screwed in the long run. If I get invited to the mosque near me, I'll have to make sure to get on the imam's good side. :D
In regards to this since you are Salafi (I would also probably be if I converted), did you make any changes to your everyday life? As in, did you change your name (would I have to change my name since I have one that's mentioned in the Qur'an)? Do you have to dress differently?
Sorry for all the questions, I'm just always interested to learn more about Islam.
>When muslims make the halal hard they make the haram easy.
Very true.
>A revert marrying a born muslim needs spiritual support from the in-laws. People can only give what they have; these cultural families are in need of spiritual support themselves, they can't give what they don't have. For every family like them you will find many that just want to make sure they have a practicing muslimbro that can provide for their daughter.
That makes a lot of sense. I feel like a revert can gain a lot by marrying a born Muslim, in terms of being able to learn the faith from their wife/husband.
I actually read one testimony from a Muslimah online where she described wanting to marry a revert because they don't carry a lot of the cultural baggage that she might encounter with born Muslims. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>In order to reduce "decision fatigue" I suggest reverts that want to marry born muslims choose which language/culture they're most interested in and then meet people from there. That helps narrow down things, I mean we are talking about almost 1 billion muslim sisters in the world. But if a revert sees "the one" in a masjid parking lot or their friend wants to make an introduction then go for it. Taking a fine toothed comb to a billion sisters always just seemed overwhelming to me.
True. I'm originally from Europe, but currently live in the US. I've come across and known many Muslims from North Africa and the Middle East and I really appreciate those cultures.
>We have two holidays, our next holiday is one week away. We have a special lecture and prayer, we eat sweets, then we go to the farm and slaughter lambs. I slaughter, disembowel, skin, butcher, make carpets from the wool. We give a lamb to the muslims in the inner city that are struggling and we keep a lamb for us. If we do a cow we'll give at least half the cow to the struggling muslims.
Sounds comfy and nice of you guys!
I will probably go and see the Salafi guys at their event tomorrow and listen to what they have to say. I might just end up converting and keep it down-low from my family for now, as I've been having an internal struggle of Christianity/Islam for most of my teenager years.
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8a17bd No.22926
>>22925
I understand your situation more now and these are good questions, thank you. It is almost time for Jummah here in EST timezone. So I'd like to just leave with you this real quick and come back later, inshaAllah.
I've attended Masjid ashabul Yameen many times and the brothers usually livestream their Jummah if you want to catch that in less than1 hour:
https://www.youtube.com/user/Hadithstudies
and you can also checkout our thread here >>22369. The living scholar that the brothers in your area consider their leading scholar is almost certainly going to be Sheikh Fawzan (may Allah protect him). There's lectures by him in that thread.
Have a nice day.
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8a17bd No.22927
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Live khutbah underway by Zaid Shakir
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8a17bd No.22928
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This was Jummah at Green Lane Masjid in Birmingham UK today.
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55f469 No.22929
>>22926
Thanks for the link, I was able to watch it and I enjoyed hearing his speech.
I will definitely check out that thread.
It was a pleasure talking to you, see you later.
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8a17bd No.22936
>>22925
>In regards to this since you are Salafi (I would also probably be if I converted), did you make any changes to your everyday life? As in, did you change your name (would I have to change my name since I have one that's mentioned in the Qur'an)? Do you have to dress differently?
Back when I took shahada everyone changed their name. Nowadays I'd say it's closer to an even split. My name was one of the handful that was undeniably problematic from an Islamic perspective. Even still, I never legally changed it, but in the Islamic community I'm known by my adopted name. If your name isn't problematic you don't have to change it.
We can wear anything as long as it covers from our naval past our knees. The easier something is to pray in, the better.
>Sounds comfy and nice of you guys!
It's obligatory.
hold up, the Imam who gave the khutbah is giving a livestream. You can ask him some questions if you want:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAwmP5X_Tec&feature=em-lbcastemail
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8a17bd No.22942
>>22925
>I will probably go and see the Salafi guys at their event tomorrow and listen to what they have to say. I might just end up converting and keep it down-low from my family for now, as I've been having an internal struggle of Christianity/Islam for most of my teenager years.
Definitely let it all out to the brothers, my man.
And while I associate myself with the salafi movement I don't want you to think this is a binary choice between the salafi movement and Christianity. I continue to benefit greatly from muslim scholars whether or not they're associated with the salafi movement, especially in the realm of fundamentals, legal issues, etc, which are universal. The difference between the salafi movement and those that don't associate themselves with it is in aqeedah. We ascribe to the athari aqeedah, the other major school is ashari aqeedah. Besides the aqeedah differences salafis are to put it simply, just a bit stricter on the rules than the average tends to be and like to play it safe. If you allow a crude popculture analogy: salafis are the vegans and the other muslims are vegetarians; whereas the non-muslims are meat-eaters. As long as you're ensconced in Sunni Islam you're doing good. If you end up wanting to practice as a salafi, then that's great.
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e16cd7 No.22969
Dw akh, we'll have your back when this mess reaches boiling point, glad to have you with us!
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277c8e No.22974
>>22936
>Back when I took shahada everyone changed their name.
I declared shahada in 2004 and most of the converts I met had changed their name. I did not legally change mine, but chose a name to be called by the brothers and I introduce myself using my Muslim name when meeting new people. Anyway, just confirming that a name change is not necessary, but many brothers do feel it brings them closer to their new faith and family.
>>22942
>I don't want you to think this is a binary choice
Also true. I am neither Salafi nor Sunni, choosing instead to align myself with the Ibadi due in part to Omani friends who instructed me during the first months of my conversion. When I asked about the difference between Sunni and Shi'a, my brother said to me, "There is only one way to be Muslim - perfect submission to the Creator. Everything else is politics." That philosophy is what has allowed me to study many scholars from many schools and learn all that I can without dealing with the messy "this or that school is heresy" politics so prevalent in modern Islam.
The salafi movement has been a blessing to Islam, especially in growing the deen, and I am pleased to see new converts being drawn to its rigorous study and pure love of Allah.
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55f469 No.23011
>>22942
>>22974
I ended up taking the Shahada in front of witnesses, thank you for all the help. :)
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1c888c No.23012
>>23011
ALLAHU AKBAR
ALLAHU AKBAR
ALLAHU AKBAR
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277c8e No.23013
>>23011
Allahu Akbar! Welcome to the family, brother.
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2c441b No.23015
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@both reverts itt
Different schools of fiqh have some subtle variations in the fard salah. The best thing to do is follow the legal school of the closest masjid to you. This video shows how to pray, it's beneficial but it'd be better if you watch the local brothers and let them teach you.
If you ever want quickly answered anonymous basic Islamic advice you can ask here or call 1-877 WHYISLAM. If anyone at all is threatening you or harassing you in anyway due to following Islam then call CAIR immediately and notify your community leaders.
And beef bacon > regular bacon.
I'm so happy for both you beautiful brothers. Salaamu alaykum wa rahmatullah and congratulations, dear brothers. You were both chosen by Allah awj no matter what, but alhamdulillah and thank you if we were allowed to play a small role in the process and if we can ever help.
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55f469 No.23034
>>23012
>>23013
It was a wonderful experience, all the brothers were very helpful, guided me through the Shahada in Arabic and were genuinely happy for me. I wish I lived closer to their mosque so I could go there for daily prayers, lol!
>>23015
Thank you so much!
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18b303 No.23044
>>22925
bro tip: dont join a sect
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8a33ce No.23146
>>22746
it's not mandatory, the Quran even says we were created in the best of states
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8ebc79 No.23385
Any updates from the new brothers? How's your experiences going? Have you found a mosque you like?
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e6be66 No.23426
>>22746
There is difference of opinion. The Hanafis and Malikis say it is an emphatic sunnah so by that view he wouldn't be sinning by not being circumcised.
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8ebc79 No.23429
>>23426
Well, I follow neither. The Prophet(pbuh) said to circumcise, and so, it must be done.
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1df7db No.23449
>>23385
>How's your experiences going?
It's going great! I have learned to pray (to my best ability, I easily saw a dozen videos or so) and I have enrolled in an online academy for new Muslims.
>Have you found a mosque you like?
There's one mosque anywhere near me and I really enjoyed going there for the Shahada, but sadly it's still about 50 km away. I live with my parents (still in uni) and I can't make that kind of trip every week without them getting suspicious.
I can't wait until I get my own place/car one day so I can become more active in the community.
At least I have this community. :D
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8ebc79 No.23453
>>23449
>It's going great!
Allahu Akbar! I'm glad to know you are continuing your studies. And, of course, you have us as a community. If you have any questions, we will try our best to answer.
Prayer at home is a good thing. If your parents would go nuts if they saw you praying like a Muslim, then set aside some closet space. Not the bathroom, though. Praying next to the toilet is a big no-no.
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6188da No.23454
>>23449
Does your college have a MSA? Def join the MSA if they have one.
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1df7db No.23457
>>23453
>And, of course, you have us as a community. If you have any questions, we will try our best to answer.
Thank you.
I actually have one question and I hope I don't come off as rude: when I learn more about Islam, there is obviously a lot of Arabic involved. When I try to learn words like insh'Allah, Mashallah, or any other terminology, I feel like I'm LARPing as an Arab, especially if I ever said them IRL. I don't want to look like this guy, lol: https://youtu.be/VNGRpKwIAwE?t=1235
Sorry if this is a trivial question. Did you guys ever experience this?
>Prayer at home is a good thing. If your parents would go nuts if they saw you praying like a Muslim, then set aside some closet space. Not the bathroom, though. Praying next to the toilet is a big no-no.
Definitely. I'm fortunate enough to have my own room, so I just do the prayers there.
>>23454
>Does your college have a MSA? Def join the MSA if they have one.
Sadly, no. In total, there are probably only 7 or 8 Muslims on campus. The only ones I know are Shia. Even telling them that I reverted is out of the question, since word would get around and a lot of the people know my family. :P
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8ebc79 No.23458
>>23457
>Did you guys ever experience this?
Yes, absolutely. It did feel a little strange at first, but you do get used to it. I'm mean, I'm a big white blue-eyed Irish-American. It still shocks people when I greet with sala'ams. Even other Muslims don't expect me to be Muslim. But that's a sort of cultural thing. People in the US expect white folks to be protestant Christian.
But, yeah, you do get used to it and it starts to become as normal as saying "bless you" when someone sneezes.
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8f635a No.23459
>>23457
>>23457
I love that scrappy working class hero British revert brother. Over the years Brother Anjem and his crew have introduced a lot of people such as myself to Islam. They actually give effective dawa, every toolbox needs a hammer or two, we can't all be soft around the edges. And dear brother no one is going to make you wear something you don't want to.
When an Arab speaks English or wears a tie they're not LARPing as an Englishman. Neither is it LARPing for an Englishman to speak Arabic and wear a kufi or shemagh. You can wear whatever you want as long as it covers your awrah, don't let the desperate stigmas of a rotting society impede you.
Some brothers want to be visually identifiable as muslims. Others prefer to blend in to some degree. That's really all it is. I choose to blend in now because I'm usually with my wife and our baby and when I used to wear islamic clothing people would start fights with me, throw things at me, etc. That's fine for me but if they endanger my baby I'll go to jail for killing them so it's best I don't do it.
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8ebc79 No.23460
>>23459
>if they endanger my baby I'll go to jail for killing them
Man, you should live here. Deadly force is legal here when defending your children and the State (Louisiana) is open carry without permit needed.
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7f2413 No.23477
>>22852
Become fully independent and then leave your family but try to show you still love the.
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c3d3a1 No.23478
>>23459
anjem choudary is a khariji clown
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f35985 No.23479
>>23478
You're entitled to your opinion, just like Brother Anjem is. Please attack his beliefs, not his personality or the scarecrow of him made by the UK media. Let's start here, these are two signs made for Brother Anjem's demos. Is there a problem with these?
I was taught to worship a since birth. I knew something was deeply wrong and having a voice cry out that Islam is the Solution was necessary. No matter if Br. Anjem upsets some sensibilities he is a powerful and necessary voice. That phrase was once very common but now it's extreme to say it. Instead of saying Islam is the Solution perhaps we should just say, "Islam is just another lifestyle choice like gay marriage and there is no problem so no solution is needed."
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f35985 No.23480
>>23479
*I was taught to worship a man as a god since birth.
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c3d3a1 No.23494
>>23479
>the scarecrow of him made by the UK media
That's what he wanted. The media has him on speed dial because he'll always say yes to a chance to make a mockery out of Islam. Win-win situation for everyone(well except the muslims of uk).
>Is there a problem with these?
Yes because he's advocating khawairj ideology like I mentioned. If the muslim world ever gets a revival it's not going to be because of clowns like him and HT sitting in the uk, nor is it going to be by cancerous groups like al qaeda and isis who fight the muslims.
Consider what this choudary is saying. The Muslim world are darul kufr and lead by kuffar because they have allegiance to the west. Meanwhile this khariji dog of hell is in uk and living on state benefits and being protected by UK authorities. So by his own ideology, he is more worthy of being a kafir for having allegiance to kuffar than the muslim rulers.
Then of course there's also the aspect of everything coming out of his mouth being absolute bullshit. The ottoman empire was not more islamic than any muslim country today, but of course his audience are not the type to read.
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4e646b No.23498
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>>23494
OK. Please keep other political outbursts like this in >>>/islampol/
This is not the board to discuss political movements within the Islamic world. In the last few days we have had a self-improvement thread and now a revert thread attempted to be derailed by some newfag raging against khawarij.
If you want to attack HT, Islam4UK, and Muslims in invaded countries that dare to fight back this is not the board to do so. We can criticize thoughtfully, not emotionally. And this idea of khawarij requires nuance since Ali ra said the khawarij are our brothers. The majority opinion of the scholars is that khawarij are deviated muslims, not kuffar.
Here is a new and highly nuanced lecture on the subject from Green Lane Masjid in Birmingham. It's important to watch the whole thing for the important ending to make sense.
And i do remind you, this board is adminned by an Ibadi so loose khawarij accusations are frowned on in general.
So, again, this is literally a shahada thread and in general we don't appreciate political animals here of any stripe. So please take the political stuff to Islampol. Thank you.
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c3d3a1 No.23501
>>23498
>If you want to attack HT, Islam4UK,
You're the one who asked my opinion of them genius.
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8ebc79 No.23502
>>23498
Or, at the very least, make a politics general on this board. That way the people who don't want to participate can just hide it and move on to threads they like.
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4e646b No.23504
>>23501
No, i asked if there was problem with the signs.
>>23502
No, because as a vol I have to read all the posts, I don't want to read political attack drivel that seeks to tear down and defame muslims with good intentions. And if this board becomes a platform of attacking other muslims then the admin and I are partaking in that fasad & gheebah.
Potential solution:
If you have a POSITIVE political perspective then perhaps you can share it in a beneficial way. That means talking about good things and encouraging beneficial action. No negativity and histrionics here, please.
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8ebc79 No.23505
>>23504
You make a valid point.
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a3143d No.29284
>>22742
>Idris Tawfiq was a Catholic Priest trained in Vatican City , he is now a muslim
Peace be upon him.
https://www.facebook.com/IdrisTawfiqLovingMemory/
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33c0aa No.29346
>In the West, we are given a choice between being a communist cuck and a fascist pig
Succinct summary of the modern western Zeitgeist.
Welcome, brother.
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63726e No.29364
>>22740
Mashallah!!! I'm so happy for you brother! I followed a similar trajectory…was both a communist cuck and fascist pig before realizing the truth of Islam. After becoming Muslim, my life changed for the better. I became humble, good, nice to parents, nice to people, happy…it may be a bit hard at the beginning but remember that God tests those who He loves. Welcome to the deen!
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2d297e No.29785
>>22740
Based and redpilled
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2df916 No.29788
18 to decide what? Rising from young age affect children future thinking. They have to pray when they hit puberty and letting them be atheists is what the athesits want since it will be hard for them to change later in life. Also marrying at young ages is permitted in Islam there is no such a thing as 18 bull☻. I know this is one year old but still.
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ae2706 No.29789
>>29788
>no such a thing as 18 bull☻
True, but we have to follow the laws of the land in which we live so long as the laws don't cause us to sin. Since there is no sin in waiting until 18 to marry, we must follow the legal age of consent.
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