/hypno/ - Hypnochan

>>73749

Here

https://www.ukpunting.com/index.php?topic=167557.0

some anon describes how he met Cl4r1$$a.

Yes. Vanilla and kink.

The vanilla one was a cute female hypnotherapist was part of a hypnosis club, but I was in front of other people in a non kink setting so I didn't feel able to truly enjoy it.

The kink one was a hypnotist in NYC. Unfortunately this one was a gay guy and, not being gay, I declined the opportunity to do kink stuff. I just wanted to be able to discuss how to become more susceptible to the recordings I wanted to become more susceptible to. Which wouldn't really be doable with a vanilla hypnotherapist.

Worked though - as a bonus, one of the suggestions he gave me was I'd be able to fall asleep while sitting upright on the flight on the way back, which I've never been able to do before.

I was out like a light.

Sorry if you were looking for an anecdote about going under the control of a hot female domme. I'm still hoping one day…

>>73752

actually this kind of anecdote seems more believable than most

I have lots of experience with this. It's far better in person, but negotiating play with somebody you're not very familiar with is awkward. The more you know and trust the person, the better.

>>73835

where and how does on meet and actual hypnotist? trough the web?

>>73858

What are you looking for?

Vanilla hypnosis? Use a social media platform for special interest groups, see if there's one in your area.

Kink-friendly paid hypnosis sessions? Look at online ads.

A pro hypnodomme? Again, look at online ads.Expect to pay a hefty fee.

A hypnodomme girlfriend? Yeesh. This is where I expect you have to really put in the legwork going to kink conventions (I know there has been at least one hypnokink convention in the States) and get to really know people and maybe catch the eye of someone who's in it.

You could also put in a similar amount of legwork building up a relationship with someone online who's into hypno, catch them before people really start noticing their recordings and they explode in attention (Sh1bby etc) and try to get a good relationship going with them.

And in both cases, all your effort could go nowhere, so you best also be doing it because you enjoy these conversations in and of themselves.

The hot hypnodomme girlfriend of your fantasies?

Option one: Be excessively, disgustingly rich (if you don't own at least three detached homes outright, stop reading now) and attract the attention of a hypnodomme thot like V10l3t by tying a sack full of money to a stick, and walk around resting it on your shoulder and seeing how long it takes her to pick up the scent and start following you around.

Not that rich?

Option two: There is no option two. Sorry.

>>73868

Being with one of the better known content producers i can say having a tist as domme is very possible. Been with another one too. And i'm not filthy rich.

It's just most mails the get are "be my domme, i wanna be a live in slave, decide everything". My advice - if you contact a tist, don't be a douche. Or super entitled telling them exactly how you want them to dom you.

Basically - treat them as a person, not as someone who's only there to just fulfil your fantasies.

The whole "oh goddess control everything" is just ridicolous when you receive it. And pretty yucky. Think about it while not jerking off, about how you would feel.

I think most people don't want a hypno-gf. They want a hypno fantasy dispenser. A tist who trances them, but no willingness to have a relationship. They want their tist when they are horny and that's it. And why on earth would a tist want that?

>>73873

>Being with one of the better known content producers i can say having a tist as domme is very possible. Been with another one too. And i'm not filthy rich.

Yes, but possible not always mean likely right? if you are in 5% of lucky person, the >>73868 may not be in the same grouping. Maybe he have small dick and you are good looking. Who knows maybe he lives in some non-hypnotist area.

>>73868

Yes, i must agree with you. To achieve most chance of success you must be rich and willings to spend. It is not difficult to find them nowadays. If you want the pro tier look on twiter , they are always advertising there. If you wan't the next tier, look on the niteflirt. If you have the money they will be going to spend hours with you as long as you are not douchebag.

If you want some more lower down talent, up and coming, then you can also try the hypnosis reddits. But even there you will have to spend the time to build relationships with them as >>73868 has explained. If you flash the money dollars on the reddit even that will go faster.

Money talks, thats the bootom line, because that is the way our world work.

>>73873

I'm not doubting your claims that you're with a content producer, but I'm *extremely* sceptical of your presentation of "just treat them like a person rather than a fetish lol" - by itself - as the recipe for success.

Don't get me wrong - I completely agree 90% of their inbox will be "make me ur slave mistres" emails.

But those 10% that do send a more considered email that also shows they see a hypnodomme as a person will still be a lot of people.

I'm a guy, not a hypnodomme, and even I think it'd take more to get me lusting than just a nice email among a sea of trash if I was in their shoes.

And that's supposing we're talking about a pleasant, well-balanced individual as I'm sure your partner is.

We're not even touching on the fact a large number of the online hypnodomme community are unabashed misandrists exploiting (moronic) men for cash.

To be clear, I'm not referring to them selling erotic hypnosis (it's a talent and good for them), I'm not talking about them producing findom content (as long as it's clearly labelled as such and listeners won't be urged to spend beyond what they can afford) - I'm not even talking about the idea of paying tribute for them to do fuck all (if you've got a lot of joy out of their work and you want to send them $10 to show your appreciation, why not eh?).

I'm talking about the "fuck you, pay for my new house piggy" style of "domination" (naked greed fueled by idiots with more money than sense).

While she's not technically a hypno domme, I remember my eyes popping when ᐯ丨ㄖㄥ乇ㄒ Doll said "lots of subs give me thousand dollar tributes, but five figure tributes get me wetter".

Obviously V1ol3t D0ll is a persona, but at some point it becomes clear that kind of domination isn't entirely divorced from her real mindset and motivation.

Madame V10l37, Lyc1a and the like are the hypno domme equivalent.

So you can see where the perception of money - excessive amounts of it - being the prime motivation comes from.

>>73877

Lolz very average dick and if I had to rate my own looks I'd probably say… average again. Wouldn't say I'm handsome, but also wouldn't say I'm unhappy with how I look either.

But both are irrelevant - if I was looking for a hypnodomme partner myself*, all I would need to do is treat a hypnodomme like a human being over email - no face or penis required to secure that first step, right? ;-)

* I'm not - I'm currently dating possibly the sweetest person I've ever met and I want lockdown to be over so we can actually meet in person again. Hypno fun, giving or receiving, would just be a nice bonus if it turns out she or a future partner is into it.

>>73882

Well, from what i have seen it's not 90%, more like 99,99% of these mails. She always answers the rare mails who are not super objectifying or entitled. But those happen twice a month max while the others are dozens a day.

And i'm not talking a one mail thing. It works - surprise - like every relationship. You have to get to know them and they you. You might know them, but if you expect them to instantly dom you - again a massive red flagg. Meet them as people, get to know them, be willing to be friends, and more might happen. Just as in real life.

I mean - you don't come up on a woman on the street and just tell her you want her to be your gf or domme or something. But most people do that with the dommes. And it's super yucky. You only know her from her files. She doesn't know you at all. So act like that, not like she is who she is in your jerkoff fantasies.

But i'm talking about the "real" (aka lifestyle) hypnodommes. Of course this does not apply to the "commercial dommes". Let's be real, for most of them a guy writes the scipts and they read it. They are not kinky, they do not know hypnosis, they are just voice actors. You hear that instantly in their files too, no idea where to accentuate the hypnosis, just reading it down.

Obviously you will never have them as a hypnodomme, cause they are neither a dom nor know hypnosis.

>>73885

> And i'm not talking a one mail thing. It works - surprise - like every relationship.

I'm not suggesting I thought you meant one email will win their heart - I was skeptical it will even get their attention.

> I mean - you don't come up on a woman on the street and just tell her you want her to be your gf or domme or something. But most people do that with the dommes. And it's super yucky. You only know her from her files. She doesn't know you at all. So act like that, not like she is who she is in your jerkoff fantasies.

You seem to think I haven't understood this rather basic point that if you want to pursue a relationship with a person you need to treat them firstly as a person. I have.

That someone would ignore the kind of email sent by someone holding their dick as they type isn't the source of my skepticism.

>But i'm talking about the "real" (aka lifestyle) hypnodommes. Of course this does not apply to the "commercial dommes". Let's be real, for most of them a guy writes the scipts and they read it. They are not kinky, they do not know hypnosis, they are just voice actors. You hear that instantly in their files too, no idea where to accentuate the hypnosis, just reading it down.

While I agree there's obviously people who are more legitimately into it (your L33 Allur3s vs some 20 something who posts 10 minute "trance" JOIs whose only connection to hypnosis is a swirly screen backdrop), there is a bit of a "no true Scotsman" whiff to this idea of "real" hypnodommes.

Mad@me V10l3t, for example, claims to be a certified hypnotherapist and even if she's lying, much as I detest her, her original audio recordings do actually show she has a grasp of hypnotic technique. (God knows if that sur ᐯ丨ᐯ乇d to the stroke vids she now churns out in between demanding cash for FA)

The one concession I'll make here is that saying you need buckets of cash to attract the kind of hypnodomme with model tier looks is *somewhat* hyperbole on my part - obviously people are different.

But when I think of the kinds of hypnodommes I *don't* associate with money grubbing, your L33 Allur3s, your Charl0tte Gr3ys, maybe your Emb3r L@r1mars…

Well, those are people who actually seem like real people (ie probably where your lifestyle domme definition rests) and thus the kinds of people you will also meet through cons and groups anyway ( we know Allur3 goes to them, for example).

The rest tend to fit pretty neatly into the "buy me shoes, pigs" camp.

>>73887

The "real" refers to being lifestyle hypmnotists compared to voice artists.

Yeah, yeah, everybody wants to be a hypnotherapist. There are really cheap classes that get you some certificate. It's a non standardized qualification every company can make up however they desire. I can make one up for you if you want one. If you think you really need to mention some pseudo-qualification like that - it says something about your skills. Sorry.

I do agree with your rule of thumb. Most commercial tists do not reply. However it's worth a shot. Nothing wagered – nothing gained. I did this over the last ten years with all kind of tists, and I got 2 dommes, 2 play relationships, and one very good friendship with some hypnotic benefits out of it.

Then again I contacted about 50 tists to get there. And I got quite a few of the “send me money if you even wanna talk” bullshit. Which to me is just an indication it's useless to talk to them. They don't want kink.

Then again I also got the “send money first” from tists who go to cons, and who are (or at least have been) lifestyle doms. It's hit and miss.

But worth a shot. You won't get less than if you don't write.

>>73888

>Contacted about 50 artists to get there

Okay now we're back into the realm of believability.

Just as a corrective, V10l3t's claim was she wasn't just certified but actually a practicing hypnotherapist.

Whether she was being honest or not, I also wouldn't write off the value *saying* you're certified/worked previously as a hypnotherapist lends you - if people view you as more authoritative and experienced as a result, that in itself can help their trance along.

Similar to that advice of don't practice (vanilla!) hypnosis on your family: they don't see you as a "hypnotist" - they see you as their son/brother. They don't view you in the context of a hypnotist.

>>73889

Yeah. Just most people know it's meaningless.

I never said it was all smooth sailing. Some never answered, with some you exchanged some mails and it fizzled out. Some you got into a longer conversation. With some you will hit it off. And in 2 of those it ended up with them being my domme. But only after talking for 5-6 weeks with the first and more than 3-4 month with the current.

More food for thougt: They will be careful. They don't just want to be a conquest for a random perv. If you're doing files, you want to make sure they like / desire you, not just the fantasy persona in the recordings. They will be careful and guarded and make sure you are interesterd in them, not just the bragging rights.

>>73891

I like to thank you for sharing your personal feedback. Not everyone does them, so I appreciate it.

One more question, please, as I am still hanging to idea of money (but maybe i need to change my thought logic). For the two people you did become subject to, did the relationship have money exchange (time on call or file purchases or 'tribute') or just pure relationship and 'power exchange'? You must have 'silver tongue' if you can get professional domme to enter a pure relationship. Even 2 on 50 is a good success ratio.

Friends with a couple, in a sub/dom relationship with one.

Just regular people with a neat skill. We had a group of 3 Hypnotists (One casual, one ran a small patreon, another was going for certification but does recreational stuff on the side) and several fetish artists that regularly got together and played TF2 back in the day. Occasionally, depending on who was present, there was some mild trigger play or pulling people aside for private fun.

I don't do live sessions often, I feel weird asking them TBH. But when I have them, they're pretty effective. My general experience with hypnosis (listen to a ton of files too) is that it varies from session to session. Live hypnosis tends to hit harder in general, but I've had sessions just as deep from recordings under the right circumstances. Both improved with experience as I tranced more.

In-person can be a step above voicechat, if they take advantage of the things you can't do over the internet. Touch/Kinesthetics, kinkplay if you're into anything else. But it can also be a detriment if you aren't comfortable being open around them.

The biggest difference between live/in-person vs recorded is they can tailor the session to your needs and react to how you're responding in real time. If you need a longer or shorter induction they can do that. If they know you're into something specific, they can work it in. The direction of a session can quickly change to suit your needs where otherwise you would have to stop and find a new recording. (if what you're looking for even exists)

Its extra special when you're going under for someone who intimately knows what pushes your buttons. That personal connection, seeing them get enjoyment from what they're doing to you, while also enjoying whats happening yourself, nothing really beats that. But it has to be built over time mutually. I've known my friend/mistress for over 6 years now, and we only opened this chapter of our relationship in the last 2.

Outside of play we're just really good friends, we talk to each other about stuff going on in our lives, common interests, share memes, cool things we find the other person might like. Comfort each other on bad days, celebrating together on good days.

>>73905

Also to clarify, at no point was I asked for money or tribute.

I didn't actively seek a sub/dom relationship or live sessions at any point. Just met people hanging around different hypnosis chats/groups, got to know them, and things progressed naturally.

I did ask my current mistress earlier in the relationship about pets/subs, but she felt like she didn't have enough time to take on someone else back then. We stayed friends, grew closer, had a couple of sessions when she offered them. Eventually we both felt it was the right time, and the rest is history.

You could totally start with a business relationship (paying for sessions/time/tribute) and eventually have that evolve into something more personal. But there's no guarantee if or when that will happen. I think if someone is looking the best bet is to engage with the community, get to know people, and you'll eventually find someone.

>>73895

I don't think i have a silver tongue. Or that i'm in any way special. And i never tributed a single cent.

That said, i agree with >>73905. In both cases it started with developing a friendship first. And a play relationship later. It started with getting to know them, caring about them. Like any relationship. I think that's the thing I do different from most. I go into it with the idea to get to know them. Chat with them, find out how they tick. Become friends. Invest time and emotions.

I see some of the other side and you would be surprised how few people want to invest any time or emotions. They might pay lip service to it, but in the second call they don't even ask the tist how their day was anymore and just want to trance / to be played with. And instantly run away afterward, no willingness to slowly come down, give feedback, talk. And yes, make the tist feel appreciated too. And not just like a kink dispenser. Sadly that's the rule, not the exception. And really, you ask strangers on the street how their day was, but it's too much effort to do it for the person you say you want a relationship with? And expect said relationship to work?

And I know for two creators (the old relationship and a friend with benefits) that they both got to the point where they work on a rule of “if you want me to play with you, either you treat me like an actual human being or you pay me” (and this is a direct quote from one of them). So yeah, some might invest money instead of time. I go down another route.

Beyond that be open and honest. Don't immediately ask them to play. Comment, give feedback, give your honest opinion. Most of them want real feedback, not the “great file”, but something that helps them to improve. Tell them what you like about their style. What differentiates them for you. Why you like them. It's usually a really good conversation starter.

P.S. And don't expect a pro domina. As in there for you only when you want, and you don't need to care otherwise. I have a relationship. Friendship comes first. We talk. We share time. We share our life. I'm there for her if she has a bad day, and vice versa. And if we feel good and kinky we play. But first and foremost we're there for each other.

But be really honest: most people want a side relationship, that is there on there time schedule, plays with them when they feel it, and is supposed to come without any emotional baggage. Sure, the dom is supposed to give them aftercare after the scene, but they don't want to reciprocate it.

And that kind of relationship does not exists – or you pay for it.