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26b259  No.71077

I have barely been able to go into deep trance in four years of trying. even drugs don't get me deep enough, my mind just starts imagining other random shit

I'd appreciate some help if someone recommends:

-any files which are easier to focus on

-nootropics/drugs which help (ik alcohol should help, might try that tomorrow)

-or just basic ass tips that might make it slightly easier

pic related

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bfdf12  No.71084

I get the random thoughts too but I just think of it as being a level to pass through.

I've heard that random thoughts are paradoxically a sign of your mind becoming more focused as you stop focusing on external distractions.

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1b091e  No.71085

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The trick is to observe how your head feels. When you identify with thoughts, your head will feel more tense. If not, they will fade and others will pop up.

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88a475  No.71111

Another trick I use to quell any extraneous thoughts is counting while deep breathing, like counting to five breathing in and then counting back down to one breathing out. Another one I've heard in an induction lately is four in, eight out, which I presume is to encourage you to exhale at a slower rate than you inhale.

Some inductions will include counting while deep breathing but, even if the induction doesn't specifically mention it, I do it anyway now because it works really well at focusing my mind away from the randomness inside my head.

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e8a646  No.71112

>>71111

Doesn't focusing on that process hurt your trance state?

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88a475  No.71114

>>71112

I find it greatly assists in the trance state since the focus is on the breathing. Most halfway-decent hypnosis MP3s (that aren't just hypnosis-themed fetish files) have a portion of the induction that focuses on your breathing.

After a while, I get so relaxed that I forget about the counting anyway.

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26b259  No.71134

>>71111

i did that to help meditate lmao and it helped

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88a475  No.71149

There is also something to be said for longer hypnosis files (like at least half an hour long) with at least 15 minutes of induction, or listening to multiple shorter files (or the same short file on loop) in one session.

I think a perfect analogy for distracting thoughts is a thick layer of overcast clouds and the hypnosis process is like getting aboard an airplane. You want to experience that magical place with crystal blue skies and a broad carpet of fluffy white below you (a deeply hypnotized state), but first the airplane has to taxi to the runway (getting prepared to be hypnotized), take off, and climb to the cloud layer (the early part of the induction, where you don't likely feel any difference compared to your usual unfocused awake state).

An airplane is not a rocket, so it takes several minutes to taxi, take off, and reach the clouds. Reaching and passing through the cloud layer of distracting thoughts means you're already on the way to deep hypnosis, but it will still take a couple of minutes as your mind moves from a less-focused to a more-focused state. And, even when you've reached the deep crystal blue skies of a deeply hypnotized state, it doesn't mean you will necessarily completely forget anything in the real world that might be troubling you, but, while you're in the deep blue, those kind of thoughts are below you and less relevant to your current focused state.

I'm sure this clouds on an airplane ride analogy doesn't apply to everyone, but it's close to my experience, that the distracting thoughts will increase while going under before decreasing again, and they're just a layer to pass through, which requires more time for me than the induction on a shorter file offers.

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