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c41c4c No.65195 [Last50 Posts]

Anyone used any drugs to help or enhance their hypno sessions. I feel like a lot of various drugs could help, something as tame as alcohol to something mind melting like LSD

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1dfae2 No.65198

There has been a excel chart with drugs and its effects with drugs pretty detailed posted here. I hope someone has it.

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95109a No.65209

Besides medicinal teas against stress and anxiety or for calming you down to aid in getting you to sleep, I tried little fractions of sleeping pills with "doxylamine" as the active ingredient (there are also pills with "diphenhydramine"). I think I benefited from it. Careful, though: I read those pills should be taken for a maximum of two weeks as a sleeping agent, because it's not a natural, but a chemical substance. I use it seldomly. Taking to large of a fraction of a pill will leave you strangely groggy for a few hours.

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19b6ce No.65212

Weed is great.

Ambien creates crazy deep trances and makes amnesia suggestions really effective so long as you don't fully fall asleep.

Ketamine can be incredible. Probably the most vivid and immersive trances I've had were starting a playlist of hypno files with a 30 minute mp3 of silence to start, taking a khole dose, and putting on a hood for sensory deprivation. I slip into the hole for a while and as I'm just starting to get in touch with reality again, the hypno starts and I'm off to an all-consuming trance. Be careful with this one though, if you're take enough to khole, don't eat for 8 hours before and don't wear anything that covers your mouth (some people get nauseous from it, I personally never have, but better safe than sorry). It also isn't going to work well with any files that require you to move around since your propriception is so fucked.

For me, full-dose LSD and similar make it too hard to maintain my focus but are solid enhancements at lower doses.

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c41c4c No.65216

File: 5fd943615dc468f⋯.png (217.65 KB,1237x801,1237:801,5fd943615dc468ff8db3f920c1….png)

>>65198

you mean this one or a different one

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079cfa No.65217

>>65209

>Careful, though: I read those pills should be taken for a maximum of two weeks as a sleeping agent, because it's not a natural, but a chemical substance

Yes, you have to be very careful with hypnotics (that's literally the official name for sleeping meds) as they are all highly addictive, and withdrawal is deadly (you just flat-out die after not being able to fall asleep for days).

>>65195

Personally I have used alcohol with good results, the combination of its soporific qualities and the "dumbing-down" effect of drunkenness seems to increase my susceptibility.

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69b450 No.65226

>>65216

Thank you!

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ffb57f No.65241

>>65216

>>65226

I've heard a lot of the stuff in this image is bull and that supposedly some of these are a lot more dangerous than indicated.

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69b450 No.65242

>>65241

What did you hear in particular?

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ffb57f No.65243

>>65242

I forgot

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3a14b1 No.65248

>>65195

if you can handle the heartbeating and nervousness of amphetamines in a trance than probably this. you will focus very hard, follow the words and lose your mind. if you like humilation it's perfect. my cock will be limp whatever i do, sometimes when i'm super aroused it can get hard tho. so depends on the hypnosis

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69b450 No.65250

>>65248

Could you please elaborate on that? Do you listen particularly limp dick hypno? If not what do you listen? Do you have a limp dicknoutside the trans as well, or is it working properly?

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3a14b1 No.65252

>>65250

on amphetamines the blood circulation is reserved for the organs. so it happens your arms or legs feel cold and your cock doesn't gets errect. you feel generally too spaced out to concentrate properly so you actually can use your cock, it eventually can happen, but it usually takes a while, sometimes more than half a hour. so you eventually need a whole night of sex for cumming. anal play is a good alternative. i listen to bambi sleep and watch sissy hypno videos, so it fits well.

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3a14b1 No.65253

>>65250

>>65252

also you feel horny the whole time.

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8c3ce3 No.68509

>>65216

Has any of you tried any of these drugs/combos? I might have money for a couple of these soon but i'd like to know if the brain damage will be coming from the hypno or from the substance. Im interested in the prl and the cycloserine

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ef64d6 No.68511

I got really deep using poppers, booze, coffee, plus an inflatable vibrating buttplug pumped up in my ass to the size of an orange or small melon. I'd listen to hypnotic audio, skipping the inductions and going straight to the suggestions, while watching my most desired visual material. Could go on all night since my cock was limp and I was experiencing sexual energy in the form of trapped impotent anxiety.

Luckily on a deep level I know I'm straight and I avoided sissy shit and cock. But got hooked on sweet sph, premature ejaculation, cuckolding, impotence humiliation.

What was a problem was that most poppers are shit. Here in Europe I couldn't get hold of the good stuff (isobutyl). Or if I could they'd be backstreet concoctions that burned my lungs and killed my brain. Often I'd use isopentyl (eg Radical Rush) which dramatically worsened my generalized anxiety to the extent that visiting the local shopping street, or sitting in a cafe when there was a girl at the next table, would be a severely anxiety-inducing experience. And not in a good way!!!

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000000 No.68631

Anyone still using DXM for their hypno sessions?

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e5f568 No.68639

Indica weed (moderate dose, good body buzz/relaxation strain) and auro-modafinil (provigil, for focus) is a winning combination. You don't want to impair your ability to follow or understand the hypnotist.

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8c3ce3 No.68644

>>68631

I have. 3rd plat once and 2nd plat twice. The 3rd plat wasnt intense at all but i feel like thats more because it wasnt a hypno day for me. As for the 2nd plat ones had vivid CEVs but the hypno strength itself was the same if not a bit lower because my mind was wandering all over the place. I would suggest you give it a shot, had a fun time either way

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b9a855 No.68658

If there is one substance I'd recommend for hypnosis it's DXM, in low doses of about 300mg. Makes it extremely easy to go very deep under and experience realistic bodily sensations relevant to the file at hand.

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e17cda No.68660

>>68511

Why do you need the inflatable buttplug the size of a small melon???

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ef64d6 No.68681

>>68660

Because a large melon would be just too big!

Seriously, the effect of the poppers and the booze and the hypno meant I'd.often pump the toy as many times as possible. Get it as big as I could, and then I'd get higher and higher.

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220112 No.68707

>>68658

True. DXM 300 - 450 mg and MJ and and you are in heaven of thoughtlessness and suggestibility. 600 mg and more is to much for hypno session.

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c34285 No.68711

>>68707

What's MJ?

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e17cda No.68721

>>68711

Ha! I think it's probably old school slang for pot…Mary Jane.

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9d1317 No.68735

File: 9f7daf02e6c1f34⋯.jpeg (715.6 KB,1242x671,1242:671,19DF986B_2FDD_42D1_BE59_C….jpeg)

My wife took some Mdma over a few hours and then watched brain breaker on pornhub. I very much noticed a difference over the next two weeks.

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c662e8 No.68756

>>68735

That looks amazing. She must be a lot of fun.

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e17cda No.68778

>>68735

Did you give her asshole a good stretching?

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09905f No.68785

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857626 No.68817

>>65216

How does one go emptying a half cartridge of N2O?

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857626 No.68860

>>65216

It seems like Coluracetam and PRL-8-53 are pretty based hypno aside. Probably wouldn't use it for hypno tho, nor anything sexual for that matter.

Imagine sitting at work and constantly remembering those hypno sessions and/or porn vids clearly in your mind. It would probably be catastrophic.

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b85f36 No.68864

>>68817

You get a cracker and empty the gas in a shitload of balloons, but reaching for balloons every couple minutes defeats the purpose of listening to hypno when you are supposed to relax. To get a consistent flow of gas, you will need tanks of no2 and oxygen, and a mixing machine anesthesiologists use, but that is dangerous if you're not trained on how to use it and don't know what you're doing. Also, you'll need someone to watch over you to make sure you don't suffocate. So, unless you know a kinky dentist who's into this sort of thing, you're shit outta luck.

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114b75 No.68865

Pay attention that this doesn't become out of you:

https://redd.it/h7owb6

https://redd.it/9ew4p0

https://redd.it/gdy3eo

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075c8b No.68880

>>68865

Well yeah, don't huff spray paint… lol

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64cce6 No.69060

>>68735

Post MOAR

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e990ab No.69101

>>69060

This is the video she watched. I'll dig up some other things from that night and post them later.

https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph5ecf8df0112ddq

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db22fc No.69105

File: 68b729ef2ea6909⋯.gif (11.21 MB,640x360,16:9,48DEEF56_667F_423C_B822_F9….gif)

This was from a different session so clothes are different. She had a vibrator inside her that pulses to whatever music hits the microphone of her phone. Same video being watched.

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b85f36 No.69106

>>69101

Porrnhub is having problems loading the page :(

>>69105

Neat, can you post an entire video of her watching the next session?

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fc2219 No.69115

THC is really great for trancing out but a word of warning listen to your files ahead of time so you aren't surprised by bad triggers and suggestions. had a file throw one at me like "you will die in 20 minutes" that really fucked me up and gave me a panic attack when i was really deep into it while high as hell.

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c2b702 No.69118

>>69101

>>69106

https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph5ecf8df0112dd

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577649 No.69124

>>68735

>I very much noticed a difference over the next two weeks.

I'm gonna need you to go into detail about this

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e990ab No.69126

>>69124

Well, she started throwing herself at me. She's come up with idea of getting her nipples pierced all by herself and she's never wanted to do that before. She's started doing more yoga and stretching at home. She's started actually texting me nudes and she never used to do that.

She'll ask me to cum on her (back/face/tits) and then take a picture of it so she can appreciate it.

She's had 5 total sessions watching that video now. Session 4 i just laid down and she rode me cowgirl style the entire video.

Our dirty talk has gotten a lot more slutty. I ask her things like "is it your job to make people cum?" and she always lets out a whimpering yes.

This whole last week I've told him I'm going to go out and fuck another woman at a bar and she told me only if I bring home a video of me cumming on her face.

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ba021a No.69128

>>69126

that's pretty hot although i'd be slightly careful if you're not into her doing stuff with other people because that vid has subliminals which suggest that sort of thing.

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e990ab No.69129

>>69128

No worries. We're actually an open couple and we're always safe with our partners. We were planning a trip to Hedo 2 this year, but…

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fb6be0 No.69144

>>69126

>This whole last week I've told him

kek larp moar

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98d425 No.69161

I can never really get into a deep trance. Only light trances. I'm going to try some of this shit to a trance training/trigger trance file and hopefully I can trance deep all the time.

Has anyone else tried this?

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9cc977 No.69194

>>69161

Going into trance takes a stupid amount of training. I have been listening to various hypno artists over the last 5 years, and I've only really managed to go under properly in the last few months.

There might be predispositions making it easier for some people but for others, there is no shortcut. Drugs seem like a risky option to achieve results faster. While I believe hypnosis by itself is relatively harmless, combining the two may impact you in unintended ways. I haven't reviewed the MKUltra declassified documents. But if I remember correctly, while they couldn't combine suggestion techniques and drugs for the purpose on interrogation and counter-intelligence, the duo worked really well to fuck someone up big time. UNABomber comes to mind.

Of course, if you have masochistic tendancies this will seem very exciting to you, but this seems like a bad idea overall.

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b85f36 No.69200

>>69194

>the duo worked really well to fuck someone up big time. UNABomber comes to mind.

Yeah, taking a questionnaire really fucks up your brain.

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306989 No.69201

Lemonbalm and kratom make me more focused on spirals.

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9cc977 No.69202

>>69200

If I remember correctly, the scientific community labeled Harvard's experiments as unthetical because the font used on the questionnaire was too small.

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0cdf9b No.69210

I've only had luck with light trances before, but when I was on LSD, i went super deep, and follower PHS thinking it was always normal to act that way. Didn't realize it was hypnosis until after the fact.

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fe1670 No.69223

>>69194

Shit man I've been listening to hypno for a large chunk of my life and only had deep trances a like 3 times. In my light trances I have achieved some crazy stuff but I want to go deeper and enjoy it more. Maybe I should listen to one file over and over until it clicks? Do you have any suggestions? I don't plan on using these triggers to listen to fucked up shit.

I read about Ted's experience with MKULTRA. I read that he was given LSD and then they attacked Ted on his beliefs and work. Doesn't seem related to hypnosis.

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9cc977 No.69224

>>69223

I have a hard time listening to the same file over and over. What I usually do is rotate between 3/4 for files of the same artist, and listen to them once over a period of two week. So a session twice a week. And if it doesn't click once or twice, then I take a bigger break (no listenings for a week, something like that).

That's not much but when I get back from work, I'm having a hard time processing what happened during the day it usually comes back during trance.

What difficulties are you facing? For the longest time I would always be taken out of trance by itches. Ruined my concentration 90% of the time. Had to make a lot of efforts to filter them out.

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bf3ef9 No.69227

>>69223

If you haven't already listened to them I recommend 几工片片工 千卂ㄒ卂ㄥ乇's Because series - listening to those files helped me learn to trance significantly deeper than I ever had before, and the skills I learnt have been easily transferrable to trancing with other hypnotists

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9d4ef2 No.69235

>>65195

What will happen if I listen to a set of files under the title "brainwash" from a particular dom, every night?

Constraints: If I listen to those files, through the night, compromising enough hours to sleep.

Trigger words: slave/obey me/ pleasure.. etc

As a whole, will it work? Or, is it a sheer waste of time, and effort?

……………………………………………………………

I am really looking for a magical skill, here. Say, the dom, speaks of the trigger, and I want to fall deep. Can you suggest anything?

I have access to 420, and alcohol.

…………………………………………………………….

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ef64d6 No.69236

>>69235

After a week you'll feel like crap. Maybe sooner.

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9d4ef2 No.69256

>>69235

lol. I keep falling asleep after 4 AM, every day. Cant stick to the constraints that well.

I just want to know one thing here: Do those triggers get registered in our brain, when we are asleep?

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a132a3 No.69272

>>69256

>Do those triggers get registered in our brain, when we are asleep?

Yes? No? Maybe? It appears that sensory conditioning is possible to some degree, and it seems like more complex learning might also be possible, but there's evidence that it comes at the cost of wakeful learning and memory.

https://www.livescience.com/64920-how-learn-during-sleep.html

https://www.discovermagazine.com/mind/new-study-says-we-can-prime-our-brains-to-learn-while-we-sleep

https://www.cell.com/trends/cognitive-sciences/fulltext/S1364-6613(19)30295-5

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6ba08a No.69295

Ive used a lot of drugs for hypno thoughout the years and i know this may not be a popular choice but i love cocaine, i only use it a few times a year and exclusively for this porpuse, so its super great.

When you can control your high, you have only the good effects matched with hypno. You get the hyper focus + happiness + limp dick + increased body pleasure in all your body besides the clitty + loss of time perspective + all of this without losing the control of the self as other drugs usually cause.

The nights that i do this, i cum 4, 5 times exclusively from anal and nipple play.

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fa7870 No.69419

I've started experimenting with using a low dose of salvia when trancing.

We're talking 3 dried leaves (non-extract) smoked then watching intense vids. I've done it once so far, and it was my second time using. Feels pretty intense and I got fully absorbed into the vids.

You can try 'quids' as well which is where you chew rehydrated leaves and keep the juices in your mouth for 30 mins. Then the effects last around an hour.

Start slow and build from there. Salvia sounds scary but thats only because people take insane doses through extracts

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ef64d6 No.69429

>>69295

It's just a slippery slope. I used to go to Sex Addict meetings where I knew a guy who'd got into crystal meth + porn. It basically destroyed sex (and life) for him, because nothing could compare to that high. And he'd fried his brain so much, his pleasure receptors were all shot.

What's wrong with a nice cup of tea, and a biscuit?

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ef64d6 No.69430

>>69295

Also, no, you don't have a "clitty".

You have a penis.

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f50584 No.69488

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>>65195

Any hypnosis with SM elements with hypno receiver being the bottom, is founded on the sexualisation of the feeling of the loss.

Your mind can choose different "psychological defence mechanisms", sexualisation is one of them. Look @ wiki for more info.

Whatever substance that makes you feel loss, will increase the effect.

Other "hypnosis" just does not work. At least of what I've seen on public. MK-ultra technology forces addicts to do criminal errands. That's as far as their mind control goes.

Instead of using loss-generating substances, you can increase effects by taking actions which ends with ultimate loss (suicide) for many.

But the only real loss there is that "education" is teaching kids to never use other defence mechanisms. You can't be ignorant, you can't be angry, you can't be violent, you can't shift the blame, you can't ask God to help you, you can't curse your adversaries, you can't say "fuck this shit" and walk out, you can't place your value over others, you can't attempt to undo the shit. The only acceptable reaction (esp. from white males) is to spread your ass wider and cite your official sincere gratitudes.

And then one day for no reason whatsoever people elected….

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ef64d6 No.69489

>>69488

I like this post, thanks. I've been listening a bit to Steven Hayes recently (Acceptance and Commitment Therapy), and somewhere he says that in addiction, you basically make yourself stupid so you don't have to feel your pain. That definitely fits with me in my years of hypno + poppers + booze. I was listening at maximum volume to a very reductive and dumb message.

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1af81a No.69833

>>65195

Alright so I put my toe in the water on this stuff a couple years back but am jumping back in again the last few days.

I have a vr setup, great headphones, 3-meo-pcp, various types of weed, alcohol, nitrous, and dexedrine. I also have been around the block with just about every mainstream chem out there and really enjoy messing with the mind. I'm just getting into intro hypno stuff again but have been mixing meditation techniques/vr visuals with drugs and beginner audio shit. Pretty fuckin fun. I'm trying to upgrade my head/life and I've got a wonderful sub I'm gonna try to slowly introduce to this stuff.

The last couple days have been me running through youtube, reddit, and this board plus just getting back into meditating and trance stuff. I forgot how well this shit works if you let it. I'm strung out as fuck on 3-meo and banana kush right now and on the tail end of some coke + dextro and about to do a vr kaleidoscope type vid plus some hfo after not having cum for like a day despite edging on stims. I know kinky 丂卄丨乃乃ㄚ is like entry level stuff but that's what I'm using for now til I can figure out something better. Might dabble in creating some scripts. Drugs + VR Visuals + audio seems like the move long term to really do some intense shit.

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ef64d6 No.69834

>>69833

Semi-trolling here, but why don't you try something real world for your kicks?

All those dopamine loops aren't good for you.

How about setting a challenge like learning the Wim Hof method and swimming in an icy lake?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cvhwquPqJ0

Cold can be fun for altered states of mind/body, too. And will toughen you up.

Possibly I'm projecting here, but you sound like me, and this stuff fucked me up good until I got back into my analogue life and strength.

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1af81a No.69848

>>69834

Oh shit, I love that dude. Heard some of his interviews back when he was a big thing and I've always been a fan of cold water honestly. I'll check it out.

And meh. I don't do a ton of drugs these days but it ebbs and flows. This shit def piqued my interest awhile back and I've got someone to explore it with now. I've been also really getting into some new fitness type hobbies lately. Not super worried about drugs cuz tend to have a solid relationship with em and I'm past my days of doing the really hard shit

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1af81a No.69849

>>69834

I do really appreciate the input tho. Don't want to seem like I'm disregarding or brushing it off. I've just fallen off my meditation hard and want to get back itno learning about how the mind works/fuck with it some.

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4527d7 No.70318

Has anyone tried hypnosis after using nootropics?

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d329dd No.71232

>>65216

An updated version of this please

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bba4e5 No.71722

LSD is fantastic for hypnosis, both video and audio, but it's a 12 hour trip, and your mind tends to wander after the peak. It often ends up being really wholesome and reflective and not porny at all.

For pure hedonism, maybe dissociatives like DXM or DCK (or ketamine for the fortunate few) are better. But I also passed up the opportunity to buy those recently, because my mind is going in different directions these days. I'd rather be myself than have an autoscopic hallucination of myself as a pornstar or kpop idol. (Even though the thought still gives me a chub.)

I did buy an MDMA analogue, because it seems more sociable than dissociatives. No idea what that'll be like. I'll be sure to use it in the most perverse ways possible, at least initially. (The great thing about being a hypocrite is that you can have your cake and eat it too.)

>>70318

Piracetam tends to greatly increase the effects of alcohol. Without that, it just speeds up thought. I'm not sure that's desirable when you want to extinguish your consciousness.

Citicoline undoes some sexual jadedness, so that'd be good for going back to older files. (I don't recommend more than 250mg per day.)

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12bc9b No.71734

>>69429

if he really has regrets then it wasn't soo good.

if it was life changing good then he would not regret it…

just another faggot that want more and more in life because enough is never enough.

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12bc9b No.71736

>>69429

why is LSD good for hypno? afaik LSD makes see shit and makes your IQ like 300+ and not make you more stupid and follow shit without thinking about it.

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e2efd1 No.71745

File: 45af41dedbb958a⋯.jpg (231.39 KB,1280x1280,1:1,robo.jpg)

For anyone who may be unaware, the RoboCough folks recently released RoboTablets. It's basically the best way to dose DXM since you don't have to drink gross syrup or eat a bunch of gel tablets which might cause nausea. It's also really cheap, only $20 for a 3000 mg bottle (~10 doses), or even cheaper if you buy in bulk.

I personally haven't tried them yet, but I've heard good things about it.

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353f03 No.71758

>>71736

No idea if LSD helps hypno or not, but "being stupid" isn't exactly a good predicator success with hypnosis.

How would an imbecile be able to generate the level of detail needed for a strong auditory or visual hallucination, for example?

(I say this, having never experienced these phenomena, which I guess by my own logic could make me… an idiot. :-P )

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8dbcc6 No.71759

Here is a link on Wiki explaining the additives or other elements in the cough pills can have bad side effects when taking in high doses the desired element DMT is not causing the issues as much as the pain killers adding in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recreational_use_of_dextromethorphan

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8dbcc6 No.71760

>>71759

I wasa big LSDS fan and recentlt found that there are lots of safe versions floating around at very good prices.

Timoth Leary and John C Lilly "his book deep self" did a lot of cool tripping (guided) sessions.

I think with hypnois can be very pwerful the CIA did it lol mkultra style be careful though, still you have mushrooms, catus peyote, and lsd in very affordable and safe versions I would go that route and stay away from sources with the added ingrediants, but check your source and actual item used, or just go naturalk and nuse mushrooms

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8e5655 No.71779

>>71736

Vibes are very important on LSD. Turning on a lamp is the difference between night and day, winter in Russia and summer in Tahiti. Everything is more intense, and that includes the effects of hypnosis.

IQ increase… Nope. My attention span decreases, my short term memory vanishes, you're just sort of carried along by your thoughts or what you're experiencing. Many insights later on that hold true after the trip, but in the first phase you're just being blasted into orbit. Imagination greatly expands but it's not what you'd call intelligence of the critical or analytical kind.

>>71759

I believe you mean DXO. DMT is another story entirely. It's serotonergic like DXM, but it's practically the endgame of all drugs. Using it for hypno would be like riding a wild bull to stimulate your perineum.

>>71760

All versions of LSD are safe unless your dealer is a psychopath, but I think you're referring to the legal research chem analogues (1CP-LSD, 1B-LSD, etc.) They're just as good.

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4bbb16 No.74443

good thread

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d6435a No.74913

>>68639

Tried this combo out, and it works fantastically. Used a high (for me) dose of edibles and waited a good 1.5hr for it to kick in before putting on a long file. Enhances the experience wonderfully. Definitely worth trying out if you can acquire both items.

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479d39 No.77140

Recently I tried methcathinone and 3MMC. Both given by Per Rectum in the water solution. I was in heaven for a few hours. I dropped in blissful pleasure with the assumed penis gag and short files Bimbo Virus / n3ur@l Nets and Pretty Patern (Mind Popper, Mind Eraser), which in this state I could listen in loop to many hours

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7c0c38 No.77141

Recently tried hypnosis on 300mcg of LSD. The suggestions don't stick after the trip, but during, I was completely in it. Repeated anything I was asked to repeat, moved as instructed, all the while being inside my own head like an observer, having fun watching my body do things on its own.

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b4f724 No.77149

File: 12c1de5d86c52df⋯.jpg (255.96 KB,1407x789,469:263,pluZrE.jpg)

>>77141

degeneration level 100

i like it

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769950 No.78272

Scopolamine is some very heavy stuff. Would be interesting to experiment with it on yourself under safe circumstances that probably would never be ensured enough. You could even record videos for your scopolamine self to trick yourself into conditioning yourself into a life of productivity, like in the series Limitless where the protagonist on NZT teaches his later non-NZT self via video recordings.

https://oneanonymous.com/scopolamineandhypnosis/

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d6d707 No.78288

>>77140

That's powerful. Simply to be able to stand that horrible babling shit for more than seconds. Better living through chemistry.

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f37166 No.78448

>>78272

I have acquired a substantial amount of Scopolamine Hbr and have a few willing test subjects. I'll let you know how it goes.

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822676 No.78449

>>78448

Please tell us. But keep it ethical.

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58cc71 No.78804

>>78449

What's ethical to me might not be to you.

So the results are better than I had hoped. I've done inductions and suggestion under the influence, but I'm not sure it's necessary. The effects of the burandanga leave the subject in a highly susceptible state with little to no hibition. Remarkably the subject has absolutely no memory whatsoever of the event ever haven taken place.

It is very clear that the concepts and suggestions have had a long lasting and profound effect on the subjects personality and how she views herself.

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d00697 No.78981

>>78449

Update: A behavior the Subject believed to be "disgusting" and refused to perform was introduced while under the effects of Scopolamine. With very little resistance to suggestion the Subject would perform the behavior when instructed. The Subject was told this behavior was normal, acceptable and expected of her. Again, no memory of the event was observed. This exercise was conducted 25 times over the course of several months. When not under the effects of the compound the Subject would perform the ilicited behavior. Some non vocalized, internal conflict was observed, but did not prevent the Subject from performing the requested action.

I believe this to be a Pavlovian response to conditioning.

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a5d6be No.78987

I listened to the first set of the 乃卂爪乃丨 files while on a high dose of edibles last weekend, and it was the first time I had a HFO. I wasn't expecting it, but when the voice said cum, my back arched in a full body orgasm.

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87766f No.78989

File: 90d35bb8307a196⋯.gif (2.03 MB,960x653,960:653,3EBB74EC_E2BE_40BE_AFD5_2C….gif)

乃卂爪乃丨 listened to 乃卂爪乃丨 sleep files a few too many times on LSD….

Now 乃卂爪乃丨 is 乃卂爪乃丨 forever.

——

Srsly though. I did that a lot, and LSD is fucking intense. It will make whatever hypno you listen to real. You will feel every suggestion, obey every command, and have every whisper of the audio file embed and lock itself deep inside your brain.

It fucked me up. It was a lot of fun, too much pleasurable fun that made me like a heroin junkie. Just craving and obsessing get dressed up, watch&listen to 乃卂爪乃丨 files and trip balls on acid all day.

And in all honesy, it negatively affected my life and sent me into a negative mental spiral where eventually my depression became much worse, even brought back some sucidical tendencies from before.

But this is mainly cuz i was using the 乃卂爪乃丨 files+Acid as an escape from very shitty life situations.

Anyway, mixing acid with hypnos is amazing. But like they say, be careful of what you wish for.

You might go too deep into the rabbit hole and regret it

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1e99d8 No.78997

>>78987

>>78989

That's very interesting. I have no experience with LSD. In fact, my research into the MKULTRA project indicates that the CIA had very unreliable results and abandoned the use of LSD. Of course, this is based off of what little material is available since most research documents were ordered destroyed.

My experience with alkaloid extractions from Datura and Burgmasia are much more positive than ever expected. However, the synthesized scopolamine hbr has blown me out of the water. The potential to tear down, destroy then implant a new psyche is amazing. Fortunately, I am not bound by the Belmont report.

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c225de No.79028

>>78449

Subject 2 is 19yo white female. She is of slightly below avg intelligence and was raised by a single mother.

Scopolamine was added to a marijuana cigarette containing sativa indica. Subject became compliant approximately 15mins after administration. She followed basic instructions without hesitation.

Subject was instructed to sit in a chair facing a large monitor. Several hypnosis type videos ( be dumber & slut trainer) from YouTube were played in a continuous loop. Subject did not move over the next 4 hours. The visual stimulus was terminated.

I sat behind the Subject and began introducing conceptual ideas about her role in life as a woman. She was instructed to repeat each idea 3 times. Subject had no recollection the following day of the previous evening.

Two days later I was easily able to observe she was having difficulty in formulating simple coherent sentences.

I will continue to report my findings after further studies.

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32d17a No.79033

>>79028

what about subject 1?

you got some very interesting stories!

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32d17a No.79034

>>79028

oh i see, it was up there

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c215ca No.79046

>>78981

Can you share what "disgusting" act was it? Can you share how you prompted her to do it later?

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f37166 No.79063

>>79046

It is not my intent to make this discussion about sexual fetishes, but for the sake of context the behavior is urophagia aka piss drinking.

Subject was instructed that urine is precious and should be treated as a gift. As a demonstration of her devotion and loyalty she is expected to consume my urine at every possible opportunity. If she does not drink piss she will begin to feel unwanted and unloved and that feeling will continue to grow stronger until she does.

We spend several evenings together every week. After many sessions I began to announce my need to urinate. At first I could see her become uncomfortable. I don't know if her discomfort was struggling with the idea of drinking piss or she was experiencing negative feelings about not doing it.

One evening before having sex, we were showering together. I opened the shower door and said I'd be right back. She asked why. I explained that I had to take a leak. She shook her head no, kneeled, grasped my penis, opened her mouth and said piss in my mouth. Words can't explain the shock and excitement I felt hearing her say those words. Needless to say I put probably the better part of 12ozs of piss down her throat.

I'm truly astonished at the results. Ive turned her into a urinal. I've been reinforcing this idea and a few others weekly. Truth be told I'm slightly anxious; not knowing what direction to take this in. So many possibilities.

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a5d6be No.79078

>>79028

>>79063

Oh fuck, I fapped to some guy's pics on a fetish website where he was listening to hypno to turn himself into a cocksucking faggot as he fucked himself with a dildo while inhaling a mixture of scopolamine and poppers. I wished that were me instead. Then, I come across your posts and realize scopolamine is some serious shit and not a mere Caribbean urban legend. I am tempted to ask if I can be a test subject, but scopolamine combined with any identity erasing hypnosis like 乃卂爪乃丨 would be a Game Over scenario for anyone

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9c306e No.79079

>>79063

Very cool. It's interesting because I'm really not into piss. This and other "nastier" fetishes really gross me out. However your description gives me arousal regardless because of the change you managed to do.

I don't have balls to do anything this serious to myself or anybody else. I plan to test myself and then my GF with some safer hypnosis files + LSD, probably even this weekend.

However I would like to follow your progress. If I were to try things, I would probably go for cum eating fetish. One thing if girls just swallows it another if she has cravings. However it's too similar to urophagia you already have to be a challenge or fun.

Perhaps something with exhibitionisms IRL or Online?

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000000 No.79082

>>79079

Another thing to remember is that receiving oral sex is an inherently passive and submissive act, so you'll need to also give yourself a craving to eat her out to keep yourselves balanced.

Since you probably don't want to give yourself a cum eating fetish, cravings to perform oral on your GF are a good alternative if you want to experience the conditioning firsthand.

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9c306e No.79086

>>79082

Funny thing. I'm very into giving oral but my GF doesn't like it. It's interesting because all of my previous partners orgasmed best from pussy licking. I think she is a bit self-conscious about it.

She is really sub with bratty side, but know that I enjoy femdom so she tries her best and making me give her oral is more for me than her.

We are both into cosplaying and Larping, I plan to use n3ur@l Nets Evellyn (from LoL) file + her in cosplay of KDA Evellyn + LSD this weekend.

I'm really excited if I could get to believe that her roleplay will be real for me.

In terms of conditioning my biggest goal is to open her to threesomes and general expression of her sexuality in public. She is really self conscious about her sexuality (she blushes from kissing in public, yet 1 on 1 she is huge pervert.

We will see if hypnosis plus LSD will do the trick in any way.

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000000 No.79091

>>79086

> I think she is a bit self-conscious about it.

Sounds like you have your first conditioning goal then. Get her to enjoy receiving oral sex.

> She is really sub

> making me give her oral is more for me than her

There should be no "making" you do anything here. If you want to experience the conditioning firsthand, then you should end up wanting to perform on her and she submissively offers her pussy for licking…

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1d0cdb No.79194

>>79078

>>79079

I began my experimentation with hypnosis and psychedelics with a fair bit of skepticism and have tried to remain objective. What I have been able to coerce my subjects into believing has been nothing short of astonishing. The ability to manipulate thought and modify behavior must be a carefully wielded sword as there are undoubtedly unintended consequences for every alteration of the psyche.

Another pitfall of possessing such means of control is corruption. I am not immune to this concomitant. Testing the degree of affect has opened up a rabbit hole of depravity. The tought of this compound in the wrong hands is frightening. I'm positive many would consider the wrong hands to be mine.

Just how far can I push the subjects? I'm no fan urophagia, either. I wasn't before anyway. I'm have more of a dynamic power exchange fetish. I am now pushing boundaries that I am not comfortable discussing here, in this forum. Let's just say perverse and leave it at that. I've concluded that there are intoxicating effects for both the subjugated and the subjugator.

I've never had a full blown volunteer. They idea is very tempting, but it can cause tainted results. My subjects are aware that I want to test the effects of certain compounds on them and they consented. However, they do not know the testing has already begun. This is to avoid any placebo type effects; girl drinking weak alcohol and acting totally wasted type.

I will continue updating my progress here as time allows. My subjects and I just spent a week in Napa Valley at an airbnb and doing wine tastings, hence my absence. I'm sure people thought I was some sort of pimp considering the 2 attentive bimbos at my sides. LOL

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a5d6be No.79203

>>79194

>What I have been able to coerce my subjects into believing has been nothing short of astonishing. The ability to manipulate thought and modify behavior must be a carefully wielded sword as there are undoubtedly unintended consequences for every alteration of the psyche.

>Another pitfall of possessing such means of control is corruption. I am not immune to this concomitant. Testing the degree of affect has opened up a rabbit hole of depravity. The tought of this compound in the wrong hands is frightening. I'm positive many would consider the wrong hands to be mine.

I've been in a similar situation such as yours. You feel like you have discovered a wondrous power with untold potential, and you want to test the limits of your hypnotic powers like the Sorcerer's Apprentice, with the result of each experimentation being more astonishing than the last. But do you wield the powers or do they wield you? Also, how were you able to get your hands on scopolamine hbr?

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f37166 No.79205

>>79203

To answer your first question, I'd like to think I'm the one in control of the power not the other way around. I guess time will tell.

Initially I was extracting scopolamine from plant materials using a soxhlet extractor and organic solvents. The problem is the end product was tainted with other muscarinic alkaloids such as atropine and hyocyamine with no practical way to separate them easily. After a lot of searching I located an Asian industrial chemical supplier that was willing to sell it to me no questions asked. I was able to purchase a little over 5kgs of >99% pure synthesized scopolamine hydrobromide relatively cheap. Considering the avg dose is 1mg or less, it will last me a lifetime.

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be8f83 No.79215

Ok quick report and question to all:

I've tried cat (one of YT) hypnosis on my GF with some LSD. She likes to pretend to be cats and we tried various hypnosis before, but she was just pretending. With LSD this was 100% real. I could tell from her body language, from kinda inhumane way she moved and laid down that her perception and belief are true. Afterwards she told me she felt being a more of a 亡丹卞呂工尺し in human body). She really liked it and I enjoyed it to. I got her to multiple orgasms.

Next time I tried very small dosage for myself and my GF sober. I was given this HFO file : aHR0cHM6Ly9zb3VuZGdhc20ubmV0L3UvTGlsaXRoVW5sZWFzaGVkL0ZyZW56aWVkLU9yZ2FzbXMtU0ZY

I was bound and my GF stimulated me for most time but very gently (her words). It's normally very hard for me to climax (literally polar opposite of PE problem), but she told me I loudly did with minimal stimulation. My perception was more or less conscious but I was sure she is giving the most enthusiastic handjob ever in the end and she was barely stroking.

I plan to test on either MDM or LSD this file on repeated loops :

aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cud2FycG15bWluZC5jb20vaW5kZXgucGhwP2dhZGdldD1IRmlsZXMmYWN0aW9uPUdldEZpbGUmZmlsZV9pZD03OTkz

Is this good choice in your opinion? Please try to listen, the description is not 100% fitting in my opinion. This is more than being horny, also taking charge and being more femdom in general. Exactly what I hope for, but I'm not sure if it will mesh well with psychodelics.

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a5d6be No.79219

>>79205

>After a lot of searching I located an Asian industrial chemical supplier that was willing to sell it to me no questions asked.

Care to tell us who it is? I'm quite curious of trying scopolamine by reading your accounts. It sounds like the ultimate cheat code to make hypnosis work with 100% effectiveness, though I am aware the dangers of using anesthetics. How to you administer the scopolamine to your subjects, and how did you calculate the dosage?

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89556e No.79221

>>79219

I am very familiar with anesthesia. I follow the ABA dosage guidelines. For a non geriatric adult the sedative dose is .6 to 1mg. Not to exceed 2mg in a 24hr period.

Subject 1 is given .75mg; usually in an alcoholic beverage. Subject 2 also receives the same dose, but usually in a marijuana cigarette or edible. Both have also received rapid subcutaneous injections with a 30g needle; a quick "bump and stick". The needle is so thin they never feel it lol.

Not sure I would characterize it as 100%. It still takes many sessions and reinforcement. It's not a one and done deal. What it does do is set the suggestions "deeper" into the subconscious as the scopolamine breaks the access barrier wide open.

It was a chemical and pharmaceuticals distributor from Mumbai India.

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1db727 No.79223

File: a9c628ee33a858e⋯.gif (7.36 MB,498x278,249:139,bullshit.gif)

pic related is people posting in this thread

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f3b6c9 No.79226

>>79223

Is the first time i do but really?

I amn't going to take any drugs, if you also dont why care?

The things i dont care i just ignore, not go there and troll/set on fire. Except the stupid bot and you everyone else respect every other here

You have dark and deep fantasies that others wont like so be nice to all, being judged isn't a fun experience, respect others and others will respect you cup of tea

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f37166 No.79228

>>79223

What is it that you know to be unequivocally false? Or is it something more? Perhaps you're just in denial that other people may be living a better life or are more successful in this subject matter?

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be8f83 No.79229

>>79226

>>79228

Ignore the troll, it's the only way.

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be8f83 No.79230

>>79215

Anybody has any opinions on that?

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f37166 No.79237

>>79230

I wouldn't expect any longterm or permanent changes. If it was that effective it would be in widespread use today.

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a1ad1b No.79243

>>78997

As a long time LSD user I woudl say CIA actually was right with unreliable results.

It is hard to concentrate on hypnos with any higher dose of LSD (and by higher I mean higher than 25-50ug). For it to work you would need to have a set and setting strongly focused for it to work with hypnos. Which can be hard, because one thought about something else, a little deconcentration(some noise outside or anything) during session and your mind will easily wander in this new direction loosing focus.

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be8f83 No.79250

>>79243

I have a quite good setting. Noise canceling headphones, darkened room and a lot of bondage gear. I've had great success in temporary 亡丹卞呂工尺し hypnosis, but I feel (could be me bias), that my GF had become a little more feline in her movements. I'll try one which focuses on being more sexually proactive & a bit femdom probably during next few weeks.

Today we will be trying MDM for a second time, maybe with some couple hypnosis.

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be8f83 No.79251

>>79250

*For a 亡丹卞呂工尺し I've gave her around 70-80ug

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a67aa6 No.79572

>>79221

Any update on how things are going with your subjects?

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f37166 No.79721

>>79572

There have been many developments, mostly positive, since my last post. Give me a few days to organize my notes and I'll post my observations

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689391 No.79940

>>79721

Cool, looking forward to your post>>79721

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3e6164 No.79973

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>>65195

When using psychedelics It's all about preparation OP because >>79243 is absolutely correct…. "one thought about something else, a little de-concentration (some noise outside or anything) during session and your mind will easily wander in this new direction loosing focus."

The more things you've got prepared before you trip the better. I make sure all my bills are paid, schedule is clear, house is extra cleaned, doors and windows are locked, extra weed, bottled water, computer and movies set up so all i have to do is click ONE button etc….. not trying to be gross but I even make sure that ive both ate, had a bowel movement and showered before i drop…. All of this is a lot of extra work, but when I do drop I know that everything is taken care of and I can focus…. Now that being said, ive tried LSD, Shrooms, Weed and all three with hypno and this is what works best for me….

Before the day (or days) of your trip refrain from sex and masturbation. Take some testosterone and fertility pills the day before and the day of your trip.

Get yourself a 3d headset and an account where you can download solo girls into the headset (or whatever your into, but I prefer solo girls/dancers because then it feels like the 3d girl is the one talking to me). Create a playlist and randomize….Have the 3d headset setup by your chair or bed…

Next, have your favorite hypno lined up in a playlist with a set of over the ear head phones ready…make sure you've got an idea of what the experience will be so you can give yourself to it. Assuming you have everything you need go ahead and drop, then immediately take a quick ten minute shower as you wait for the come up (Generally speaking it takes about 30 - 45 minutes to begin feeling the effects of psychedelics, giving you plenty of time to wash up and get prepared, I recommend the shower because it will foster clean relaxing feelings)

After that, you should still be sober enough to be able to turn on the hypno playlist and the 3d headset too and set yourself up before you blast off… The idea is that you should be able to spend the trip with a private dancer and a hypnotist while tripping…..

Not gonna lie, its fucking amazing……. consequences will never be the same….

Good luck op.

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71fd09 No.79983

>>79973

Thanks for the report and thanks for the description of your process to create the setting.

Regarding the videos: Can you recommend some where the VR immersion is good and the private dance is not just a few minutes (before finishing or going into porn)?

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3e6164 No.80014

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>>79983

Istripper

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5ddbf3 No.80016

Doesn't look like anyone has done so yet, but this is a just reminder not to discuss where to buy drugs or anything like that on this board.

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5371de No.80179

>>79721

Any updates OP? looking forward to it.

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2e6540 No.83201

this thread dead or what?

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baf847 No.83204

In my opinion alcohol by itself actually makes it harder to stick to any hypnosis, but I'm ADHD. Cannabis is kind of meditative/hypnotic already, and it does make hypnosis more effective for me. I feel like I would not be able to go under hypnosis on LSD; my mind would be racing too much. But I still am afraid to risk it. ^^ Never tried entering a trance on DXM either. I feel like lotus might be interesting. Red kratom might also help, since it induces sleep. Just make sure not to go throwing everything together; doing so while watching hypnotic porn and feeling nihilistic gave me a heart condition. Should've just dropped acid.

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433b21 No.84467

>>69235

I'm basically brainwash-proof, so these files only give me a really vivid and intense sensation; the next day I'm perfectly normal.

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