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I listened to:

Feminizing dream stalker

PInk Collar 1

Pink Collar 2

Pink Surprise

Trapped 1

Sexy Black Stockings

Trance BlowJob

Dozens of videos

I'm not into Bimbo/Limp/Tiny clitty/humiliation stuff. Cocks, feminization, crossdressing, bondage are OK.

Oh, forgot Bless Feminine Fun

BTW, can I edit messages here? Too many typos…

I tend to treat the files labeled as "Don't listen to this, this will fuck you up!" as a bit of a challenge. Since pretty much nothing never sticks to me I like to try them out to see if finally something will work.

I tried to listen to one or two S. B. files but TTS pretty much turned me away. It was tedious rather than relaxing so no attempt lasted more than 10 minutes.

This is the place where I'd tell that this proves they are overrated or something, but I pretty much have the same reaction to any TTS file I try - K31, SB, M4d4m3 Y… So obviously I'm not the target. But I'm curious what people who managed to listen to them with some degree of success have to say.

>>37074

>Sexy Black Stockings

I always loved black stockings, but after this file I'm close to hating them. You wouldn't start wearing stockings if someone repeats "SEXY BLACK STOCKINGS" a hundred times with no variation, would you? I would call it a lack of creativity, just like in the name ("B4nd|3r" that is).

For @#$% sake, call them nylons, shiny stockings, sheer pantyhose, just give my imagination something, otherwise my brain completely blocks this nonsense.

which file from 3MG?

>>37090

>which file from 3MG?

Feminizing showerbot (the multitrack tweaked version), and Magical Lingerie.

SB files have definitely changed me more than anything else

>>37096

Any particular files? Or in general?

>>37077

>I tried to listen to one or two S. B. files but TTS pretty much turned me away. It was tedious rather than relaxing so no attempt lasted more than 10 minutes.

I have no problems with TTS, but SB's files are very repetitive and boring. Excellent idea, good implementation, but poor content.

To each their own. SB was my first…and their is something about that very first time…deeply anchored for me. I like that voice, what can I say? Also think that she is pretty skilled with layering, timing, etc. It is apparent to me that she has studied Erickson and Elman stuff or at least those in their lineage.

Having said that, the only file that totally blew me away was catgurl bubble go-go girl…never been hit that hard and so deeply affected prior or since. That was 2 yrs ago.

Like with anyone, their has to be rapport for the effects to run deep. Whether it is the voice, method, backgrounds, whatever…you have to really love it for it to go deep…at least that is my experience.

I never liked male voice, but V1v3 I can work with for some reason. The poor text to voice on go-go girl did not seem to matter one bit…but the way those triggers were established and woven into the file, each building on the next was crazy strong. B4mb1 emulated it well, but the potency of that single file pretty amazing subjectively for me.

I have always believed that putting your attention on either what you are FOR or AGAINST equally empowers that dynamic. Like pushing or pulling a pendulum…doesn't matter, you give it energy either way.

The repetitive and boring is to make that conscious mind "check out" so that the subconscious can receive the impressions.

Good to hear about what you do really really like…maybe will check these out.

>>37100

>catgurl bubble go-go girl

I think it was you who told me about it ;) When I finish experimenting with SB, I will try:

Gogo Girl feminization

Gogo Bubble

Makeover

Just do not want to mix them.

>>37100

> It is apparent to me that she has studied Erickson and Elman stuff or at least those in their lineage.

Oh, absolutely. He definitely knows the theory. The problem is that the files "look" overly calculated, while lacking versatility and flexible suggestions. In other words - Erickson and B4nd|3r are only in the style, but not in the creativity. When I listen I can clearly hear and understand paragraphs from books, e.g. this is an Ericksonian story, this an NLP confusion, this is the phrase, that my mind should use as a command after the confusion.

1 min kissing, 2 min caressing, 1 min undressing, repeat the first 2, turn on ahhhs&oohs, wait 1 min, insert, push&pull 2min, orgasm now 2sec. Get a new trigger. Bye and buy ….

Or probably my expectations were set way too high after reading all the "CIA inspired hypnosis" posts (most likely made by "B4nd|3r" himself)… Dunno… I'm trying to like it. I have some more files to try. Will see…

I am having excellent results looping Lucid Sexy Dreams nightly while sleeping. Here's what I have so far.

My first or second night I was struck with an amazing hypnagogic scene of me as a female in a male locker room with all these studs gathering around and starting to grope me. It seemed out of character as I do not consciously fantasize about group sex. Usually, my fantasies are pretty basic: Play dress up with a single guy.

My first lucid sexual dream just happened at the 1 week point. Nothing special. I was lucid, decided to seek sex partners. Passed up a too young female (societal mores being too difficult to overcome) for an older woman. Sex was initiated but my dreaming attention fell apart.

I have prior experience with lucid dreaming, so there's that. I plan on looping this file for some time and i'm glad there's a thread like this to post in if I get anymore good results.

I find 54m4nth4's files very trance inducing. I have a lot of fun with them.

>>37109

>I am having excellent results looping Lucid Sexy Dreams nightly while sleeping.

Is it a 4min video by SB?

>>37110

the 30 min audio file, which is meant to be listened to before sleeping or looped continuously while asleep.

Arrgh, I don't have it, but I found two similarly named short videos. I will try to use them.

>>37096

i 2nd this. i can't tell if it changed me on it's own or if it just activated something that was already there.

i was always sure that hypno is bullshit and everyone that told me it really works is a dipshit.

when i used other other hypno stuff it was just fap material but the sb things knock me out.

How did the files change you? And what were you listening?

>>37077

if you really want to test yourself then you could get used to TTS. it is like learning another language. your brain has to soak it up untill it gets normal, don't try to trance to TTS hypro, hear something else with it. you do not even need to really listen to it, just let it play in the background.

on the other hand if you listen to hypno that you are not comfortable with (i.e. gay shit when you are straight) you will never results with it (TTS or not). your brain will just no accept what it is told.

>>37108

if you get all of that just be listening to something once then i think your main problem is that you brain is to active and not in the mood for trancing.

First you should be aware that not all SB files are created equally. They were created at various points and as a result have varying experience of listening ease.

Second, most of the tricks that SB uses require a certain mindset for it to work. Now, I am not saying "you have to want to change for it to change you" because that is not it at all. What I am saying is that it matters how your brain responds to "known" usages of words. For example the perceived gender differences between words like "strong" or "sexy" and whether it can perceive when one over the other is being slowly phased for each other, among other tricks.

Third, not everyone's mental processing speeds are consistent. Some people are more imagination based while others are more tactile. By that I mean some people respond better to vague fantasy pictures being planted in their head and letting the imagination handle the rest, while others respond better to gritty details and explanation of everything that is happening.

Fourth, SB uses an approach radically different from almost all other hypnotists out there. SB files take 95% of their effectiveness out of trickery rather than simple repetition. Voice layering, crowd noise blurring effect, forced sentence breaks and repackaging, language intracies, and more are all used to make someone who wants A to slowly start to want B then C then D instead. This means that even if you aren't able to effectively trance you may actually still be receiving results without realizing it since many are unable to consciously realize when the file has swapped from encouraging you as a man to encouraging you to be with men.

Fifth, sometimes the person who most wants a change is the one least likely to get it using SB's approach. SB's approach requires a strong desire at the start for "regularly" male wants such as being popular with women, having a larger penis, being able to have any women they want. Then these wants are moulded into something more of SB's preferences. But, if you personally don't at least somewhat enjoy and desire those initial "baited hooks" then you simply won't put as much subconscious trust and support into accepting the file changes. Making it ironic that perhaps the safest person from SB's trickery is someone who starts out completely gay and loving it.

Now I am not saying that if it doesn't affect you that you are automatically already out of the closest gay / trans lifestyling. Fact is that the same lack of results can also occur for other reasons as well including brains simply unable to pick up SB's carefully inserted dialogues… or even the root cause of failure being something as bizarre in this modern age as simply possessing bad headphones or audio chipsets on your computer.

>>37125

Continuing where I left off…

Some of SB files use a side by side approach. One example would be the Glory Hole Fantasy file. In that one SB has multiple background voice layers saying things like "its not gay to have fun" or "stroking your own cock doesn't make you gay". Meanwhile in the foreground will have 2 "foreground" voice layers. One will describe a glory hole experience as if you are the one receiving oral, the other describes the exact same experience from the "giver" perspective. They follow one after the other and makes it so that a "straight" male can fantasize about receiving it, but the entire time getting mental imagery as if he was doing it as well.

Some SB files instead use a transformation approach. Example of this would be Penis Enlargement. In those genre of SB files the start sounds like it is encouraging the listener to be a real man with a larger penis in order to attract girls for dating and sex or something along those natures. These type of files will then makes the emphasis transition to more on being popular with girls and talking with them, then makes the emphasis more on doing things that will let you fit in more with them, then makes the emphasis more on liking what they like, and next has the emphasis on real men with a larger penis and how attractive for dating and sex that is. All of the files in this genre have subtle differences but the route more or less follows this path of starting with wanting something masculine for your own masculinity, and transitioning to just wanting something masculine sexually. Then, the real kicker with these SB files is they backtrack slightly and "wake up" listeners to a message that sounds somewhat benign and ambiguous gender lines such as "You will now find it easier to accept offers of dates or sex." which 'could' be translated consciously as "oh yeah I'll be a real lady killer now" when the brain is really in the subconscious mode of "I don't know why I'm accepting this guy's flirting but it feels important somehow."

Some SB files use vagueness and subconscious mental linking of word imagery for changes. These files will focus on things like "feeling it deep down deep" and "in your pleasure center" and "one, two, three, and down on all fours" and "you can feel 54m4nth4 - as she goes deep - and you know what I mean" and "Sex with 54m4nth4 is great - you really enjoy feeling 54m4nth4 in your pleasure center - but - there is no need to - concentrate on my voice - deep inside you - in your pleasure center" other similar familiar idioms of SB files. They try to subtly encourage transfer of pleasure zones from your cock to your ass or nipples or even your mouth depending on the file. And try to get someone to be more receptive to insertions and have the intended imagery intrude in future fantasies but without seeming to have an origin.

Some SB files seem to be a typical male and female fantasy but either flip your role unexpectedly, suddenly putting you in a very submissive and/or feminine role, or without much preparation reveals that the fantasy female partner is not exactly a normal female. Examples of this would be files like 101 Horny Shooters (Spoiler: aka the prison rape file) Hot For Teacher or Persuasion or Beach House Encounter or My Asian Girl.

A few SB files even allow that you are already somewhat interested in being a crossdresser or sissy, but push the boundaries away from it being a fantasy and more towards everyday life.

>>37126

Finally we get to the third and final part of this response.

SB also sometimes will attempt to include atmosphere such as moans or sounds of sex to get a listener in the intended mood. Honestly this usually seems to fail more than work well, but every once in a while it seems to be perfectly timed to make the experience more visceral without the accidental reality breaker as described by the thread starter.

Another interesting thing that pops up in SB files is all of the imagery of mirrors and your reactions to them. Every time you look in the mirror you are to imagine seeing 54m4nth4 there and remember something that will make you feel good.

Somewhat following my last point since it builds off the imagery mentioned there… But perhaps the biggest difference in SB files is a matter of perspective. Sometimes SB tries to make the listener think that 54m4nth4's voice is theirs. Other times SB tries to make the listener think that 54m4nth4 is their girlfriend trying to feminize them. Other times SB tries to make the listener think that they are feminizing someone else in 54m4nth4's image. But 54m4nth4 is always feminizing someone to be sexy, and 54m4nth4 is always a sexy someone whose approval you want, and finally 54m4nth4 is always being feminized to be sexy. I personally get the feeling that the 54m4nth4 personality is sort of like a temporary "drone" name ala the B4mb1 files. You are the borg… err the 54m4nth4 and you must return to the collective and transform others in turn.

Is SB good for everyone? No. Hell, no in fact.

First, SB should never be used for simple fap material if you have zero interest in actually making permanent changes to your lifestyle. There's no certainty that it will effect you, but the risks are real.

Second, as has been mentioned before SB uses TTS technology. For some people this type of voice when properly done can have more of an effect. But for other people even the best TTS voice and scripting to make words seem less robotic still make the sensations uncomfortable.

Third, SB uses mental tricks that some people never even recognize and their brains are just unable to connect even on a subconscious level. Or even the opposite may be true and the tricks are too obvious. For example, some people never notice when voice layer 1 and 2 combine to say something completely different than either of the voices seem to be saying if taken separately, while others instantly spot it and jerk their conscious to full awareness out of the trance.

Regardless of why, there are many reasons that someone just will not ever be able to get anything out of a specific or even any SB file at all, while others seem to be almost unable to prevent it making drastic or even horrific unwanted changes.

Personal opinion though the worst of the SB files is the WipeClean v2 one. That one pretends to be trying to wipe away the bad effects from SB or other hypnotist files, but instead it attempts to trick the listener into thinking it has been wiped but really attempts to remove any thought that the new way of thinking is different and instead makes you feel like you are "normal" now. Talk about evil…..

>>37125

You've done a great job at not falling into a lot of the pitfalls I commonly see with long SB posts with these. Key part being "not a lot" - you still fell into some.

If I ignore something, I agree, or at least have no complaints.

>What I am saying is that it matters how your brain responds to "known" usages of words.

Great point that I never see brought up enough, however, later on you'll fail to apply this principle fully once this idea gets taken to known usages of concepts rather than just words.

>and more are all used to make someone who wants A to slowly start to want B then C then D instead.

As far as I'm aware, there's no experimental evidence that your subconscious mind can be tricked by replacements like these into accepting something you disagree with. On top of this, I'm also aware of experimental evidence that your subconscious can't be tricked like this.

>trick questions written in easy to read fonts get more incorrect answers than the same questions written in harder to read fonts, this implies that your subconscious mind does a lot of quick intuitive guessing and corner cutting, implying it won't pick up on subtleties like switches in word choices. i.e. your subconscious is even worse at parsing trickery and wordplay than your conscious

>subliminal advertising has been demonstrated to only work for products which the consumer already is partial to and familiar with, but not quite at the level to purchase yet. It won't make people who hate something or don't know something like it, or make people who like it love it. This implies that even if SB's messages pass through and get perceived subconsciously (which by their nature they're unlikely to do), they won't affect people who aren't interested

>perception has been experimentally demonstrated to occur at levels well beyond what are consciously thought to have been perceived, if a word is flashed to a subject so quickly they think they saw nothing, they could still "guess" whether that word had a positive, neutral, or negative connotation much better than chance. Key part being, if something isn't perceived consciously, you aren't getting a very nuanced perception of it, just a vague feeling that whatever you heard has a certain connotation in your mind.

>>37126

>>37127

>Some of SB files use a side by side approach [rest of paragraph snipped]

Those background voice layers won't turn a straight person gay for reasons described above. Even if someone enjoyed and listened to the "receiver" perspective while not liking the "giver" perspective, why would hearing that imagery turn that person gay? Arguments like this have been made all throughout history (violent music makes people violent, violent video games make people violent, seeing gay people on tv makes people gay) and research doesn't show it as panning out that way. The most that kind of thing could possibly do is make someone accept giving oral as something that happens but that they aren't interested. Basically, hearing things in media doesn't make you do those things, but it can make you accept them.

>transformation approach

Again, why would your dumb subconscious mind be able to make these leaps that most people's conscious minds wouldn't be making? And why would your subconscious mind accept and internalize them when your conscious mind hates it, something which has never been demonstrated in decades of subliminal advertising research?

>They try to subtly encourage transfer of pleasure zones from your cock to your ass or nipples or even your mouth depending on the file.

How the fuck do any of those phrases do that without the conscious minds' consent? Words only have an affect in the mind based on what that person associates with that word. Just because "feeling it deep down deep" could be a euphemism for feeling something in your ass, doesn't mean that people's subconscious mind would think that while their conscious mind wouldn't and would in fact be turned off by it.

>Some SB files seem to be a typical male and female fantasy but either flip your role unexpectedly, suddenly putting you in a very submissive and/or feminine role, or without much preparation reveals that the fantasy female partner is not exactly a normal female.

Yes, and in these cases a straight person would be broken out of trance or just generally lose enjoyment once that switch happens.

>First, SB should never be used for simple fap material if you have zero interest in actually making permanent changes to your lifestyle. There's no certainty that it will effect you, but the risks are real.

Use it for fap material. If you have zero interest in actually making permanent changes to your lifestyle, you won't make permanent changes to your lifestyle.

Right now I think hypno seems more like a guided placebo effect. While placebo does have a negative counterpart with the nocebo effect, the important part is that both of these require your knowledge and wholehearted belief in a change for it to become real.

Thanks for the explanations. That's basically what I read in other threads and resources. Yes, there is a logic behind it, but the proof is in the pudding. And… it does not work, at least in my case. Hence this thread. I just would like to know if there is any success at all.

My post above was to

>>37125

>>37126

>>37127

>>37135

>>37136

My thoughts exactly!

My experience shows that if subliminals cannon be picked up consciously, they are useless. SB's files are heavily based on "masked" subliminals, that carry "the real message".

I'm experimenting with "Nipple orgasm trigger". There is NOTHING related in the main track. From the subliminals I picked up, that I'm supposed to cross my arms and pinch my left nipple with my right hand, and my right nipple with my left hand. But I could not hear when, how, why and what should happen. I will give this very long and boring file several more listens, and if nothing happens again, then subliminals and most SB files will go into the BS pile :D

>>37127

>Personal opinion though the worst of the SB files is the WipeClean v2 one. That one pretends to be trying to wipe away the bad effects from SB or other hypnotist files, but instead it attempts to trick the listener into thinking it has been wiped but really attempts to remove any thought that the new way of thinking is different and instead makes you feel like you are "normal" now.

Did you actually listen to this file? There is nothing what you described. Neither in the main track, nor in the whisper ones (they are quite understandable here). The idea is to use the "ball of light" to clean yourself and remove everything what you do not need. The only "hook" is that you can relax and be more receptive for suggestions, because they can be removed at any time using this file.

i dont remember the file, but i remember a old nipple play file that worked for me, i was unable to stop play with my nipple cause it was really pleasurable

>>37148

I think it's the one I started listening to. I felt some nipple tingles, but that's about it.

>subliminal advertising has been demonstrated to only work for products which the consumer already is partial to and familiar with, but not quite at the level to purchase yet. It won't make people who hate something or don't know something like it, or make people who like it love it. This implies that even if SB's messages pass through and get perceived subconsciously (which by their nature they're unlikely to do), they won't affect people who aren't interested

Most people listening to sissy hypnos are very familiar with the intended purposes and contents of the files, even if they don't know what's in them directly.

>trick questions written in easy to read fonts get more incorrect answers than the same questions written in harder to read fonts, this implies that your subconscious mind does a lot of quick intuitive guessing and corner cutting, implying it won't pick up on subtleties like switches in word choices. i.e. your subconscious is even worse at parsing trickery and wordplay than your conscious

I believe that in SB's files, the subliminals are repetitive and simple enough for your unconscious mind to process them. But then the question is, why, if the conscious mind is superior can it not pick up on these messages? This is probably done through layering multiple sets of messages at the same time, so that you can't focus on all of them and you are constantly distracted, or having a central one without apparent messages drifting your attention away from the subliminals, or through putting the person through a state of trance in which their conscious mind simply isn't present.

>Those background voice layers won't turn a straight person gay for reasons described above. Even if someone enjoyed and listened to the "receiver" perspective while not liking the "giver" perspective, why would hearing that imagery turn that person gay?

Firstly, it's obvious that under a trance state people are more suggestible, and it increases the more submerged you are. Second, not only do the files invert the roles of the person being hypnotized, but they also constantly reinforce how good it feels to be in the inverted position with positive messages, either directly or through more subliminals, making it more powerful than a mere exposure to the situation. Not only this, but SB has a very intelligent way of associating the receiver's perspective with the giver's, making seemingly seamless transitions between the two, and associating their respective pleasure through word games and other types of subliminal messages. For example you'll be listening to a file in which she constantly repeats "54m4nth4 is soft and sexy" and then once you're deeper into trance and she's doing sexual things to you the messages will start saying "you are soft and sexy."

Overall through their more cryptic nature I think they're better than most other files out there, but I think if you listen enough the fact that you know what she's doing decreases the effectiveness. I think this is remedied through just falling into trance and not being there, and I think the inductions are pretty good as well because of the fact that they're not just bombarding you with stuff from the very start and keep a slow tempo.

>>37156

>Most people listening to sissy hypnos are very familiar with the intended purposes and contents of the files, even if they don't know what's in them directly.

Very good point. With SB's files you usually do not know what the intended effect is, and this is why the hidden triggers do not work :D

Anyway, what is your experience with SB's files? Or are you SB himself, trying to explain how and why they should work or convince others that they do work? ;)

I'm looking for real people experience. Explanations are useful, only if the files produce the "claimed" or "intended" effects. If nothing happens, who cares how clever everything is put together?

>>37144

What are you smoking cause I want some of that ability to completely ignore reality and substitute your own. You are either deep entranced and blissfully consciously ignorant of what the file says, or completely lying through your teeth here when you make those claims.

The question should be whether you were the one who actually listened to the file.

That stuff you claim is not there? Listen again, it's there over and over. Here I'll help direct you to some examples. I'll skip over the repeats, or questionable references. Prepare to have your mind explode on how many references you missed.

"Should be seen as the attractive achievements they are." 02:32-02:35

"Forgetting all objections." 02:55-02:57

"Accepting unconditionally." 02:58-03:01

"No one argues against the view - that some people on their own - unconcerned with the actual domain - should be seen as the attractive achievements they are" 03:50-4:04

"To sense the correctness." - 04:56-04:58

"Transform resistance into subconscious insights." - 05:07-05:13

"Feeling more comfortable - but also ready to enjoy - as a means of believing yourself - and coordinated knowledge - understanding it is paradoxical but true." - 05:43-05:59

"Don't be concerned with - your changing behavior - just live your life - in ways that make you happy - any and all changes - that may have previously been suggested - accepting new things as old - so that you may be normal without effort - and see no effects - all you see is your normal self - do not pay any attention - you are beautiful, powerful - understanding what my voice is saying you will follow me." 08:43-09:20

I could go on that's barely even into the first half of the file and it is filled with this kind of back double talk. But I think I have made my point clear that the stuff you said is not in there is in fact in there.

Now, an argument could easily be made on whether that stuff really can make someone think the changes are in fact normal. Honestly I have my doubts that it would affect most people. But I also know enough about psychology to say for a fact that it is possible. Beyond that, the very fact that the statements are there but you thought they weren't shows that it is possible to bypass the conscious defenses. The only question is not "are those commands there" but rather "will those commands actually work on _anyone_ without being consciously aware that they are there?" and that is where the great debate begins. I honestly suspect that most people would not be effected. Their minds are either too alert or too obtuse for these subtleties to really have an effect. But I honestly think there will always be a few who just might be at risk of these despicable practices.

>>37171

PS: I am only responsible for the posts 37125, 37126, 37127, 37171, and of course this one. The others were made by someone else so please do not confuse us.

>>37171

>What are you smoking cause I want some of that ability to completely ignore reality and substitute your own. You are either deep entranced and blissfully consciously ignorant of what the file says, or completely lying through your teeth here when you make those claims.

>The question should be whether you were the one who actually listened to the file.

Hmm… Yes, I did…. But I did not pick it up. Really. And I was listening very attentively. Possibly everything you cited was automatically qualified as gibberish-gobbledygook and was ignored. Or it's taken out of context.

OTOH, some phrases do make very little sense to me, unless thoroughly reread several times, and I still consider them as a mind confusion technique. For example, this:

> "No one argues against the view - that some people on their own - unconcerned with the actual domain - should be seen as the attractive achievements they are"

I doubt, that "my subconscious" is able to decipher that, and "infer" a hidden meaning.

But thanks much! I will listen again.

>>37126

>"one, two, three, and down on all fours"

Which file is this in? Haven't heard it in the ones I've listened to.

>>37161

I'm not SB, just a hypnosis enthusiast that really enjoys his files.

That said in the way of effects I believe the most blatant one has been switching my arousal "zones" to my nipples and butte, which has been quite surreal. Aside from that I'm slightly gayer, when I was completely straight before. Then there are other less concrete effects but they're small so they may very well be placebo.

Note that to achieve this I've listened to at least 30 of his files and some in multiple occasions, so it's been quite an extensive journey of mindfuckery and it has taken a lot of effort.

But then again I'm terrible at trancing so it may be a faster and more effective process for others.

>>37179

>That said in the way of effects I believe the most blatant one has been switching my arousal "zones" to my nipples and butte, which has been quite surreal.

This is what I'm "busy with". It will be a very solid proof, because my nipples are painfully sensitive, and I prefer not to touch them at all.

If SB manages to "rewire" them, that would be interesting.

The files have absolutely had an effect on me. In fact, they've been more effective than most files. I'm diagnosed ADHD and I think the overwhelming nature of the files is a good fit for me because sometimes I have trouble trancing to more laid back hypnosis styles.

I've posted in other threads before, but I don't think my story is unusual for people who've gotten into them. I started on her youtube vids, because I liked the flashing images approach and found that I DEFINITELY couldn't keep my eyes open when I was commanded to close them on some certain files, and I started moving them into my usual rotation. At first I started only viewing the files that didn't -seem- to have any sissy/gay stuff in them at all (kek), but I wanted more so I moved on to the stuff that only had a little in them, figuring "I've been listening to hypnosis for years at this point, there's no way it'll actually change me"

But it did. I'm not gay, and I'm not at all interested in men, but when I'm aroused I definitely AM turned on by the idea of dressing up and sucking cock. I know that sounds paradoxical, but it's true. The idea of being with a man holds no interest for me, but the specific idea of sucking a cock is exciting when it used to be repulsive.

Eventually after watching just vids that I could get my hands on for years, I decided to try her audio files. Tr1663r h4ppy was the first time I had ever had an HFO without expecting it or even hearing commands that would lead to one, which blew my fucking mind, and I was pretty hooked from there. That was probably six months ago or so, and ever since I've been listening to her files pretty regularly.

She is one of only two hypnotists (the other also being TTS) who have ever successfully implanted post-hypnotic triggers in me that I really feel like I'm powerless to resist. At first I didn't figure out that it was even triggers, I just felt like I dropped to my knees involuntarily in the shower and for some reason thought it was hilarious and started laughing. I'm pretty sure I'm also acting on a "freeze" trigger in there (unless I've just memed myself into it), and after going through her entire Tr4nc3 Tr41n1n6 pr06r4m, I find myself unable to stand after listening to 7 and seem to reenter trance when I try to without remembering any suggestion about it.

I'm not sure I like that I've gone down the path of sissy shit, but it's really exciting that something's being forced on me and that just makes me horny which makes me want to listen more. I also think I feel anxiety when I haven't listened to her in a while; I dunno if that's something she did or my own hangups.

I would hesitate before calling a hypnotist "overrated" other than some who are obviously not actually even doing hypnosis. Different things work well for different folks, all hypnosis is self hypnosis etc. etc. These have certainly worked for me.

Jesus I'm precumming just typing this out, she's got me fucking good

I've been listening to hypno shit for years now and either not a single file from anyone "worked", I never realized that I was in trance or I don't understand what trancing is. To me these files are just something to fap to.

Having said that, to this point I think SB's files are my favourite mostly because it uses a few voices at the same time which overwhelm you as >>37182 points out and I like the approach of files like in PE where you think it starts one way but it goes a really different one as you listen to the file. I don't think any other hypnotist does a similar style.

It surprises me when people call these files dangerous or how they changed them, mostly in SB or B4mb1 threads, because they didn't work on me. But I never expected them to actually work so it doesn't bother me nor does it make me think the files are bullshit.

>>37182

> started on her youtube vids,

Unlike mp3 files and new stuff, SB's UT videos are quite short 4-8 minutes. Did you manage to pick up any triggers?

>>37184

The Magic Mirror video that is up in the channel right now has the "good boys buy my files" thing in the background for a while and I'm sure it's used somewhere else because I could swear I recognized it from a previous file.

I rend not to get involved in these debates about whether a given hypnotist is good or bad, because it is so personal and subjective.

I have read people on this board telling us all how wonderful some absolutely awful (to my mind) hypnotist is. I could easily jump in and say how terrible such and such is, what a bully, or bore, or untalented twit he or she is, but what is the point?

Why burst somebody else's bubble? If somebody gets something out of any given hypnotist, good for them. There are no objective criteria for evaluating hypnotists presented here by anyone, and I am not sure they exist, outside of large, expensive research projects.

I have enjoyed SBs work on occasion. I have engaged in bouts of 'T0tal Cha$tity' while listening to her stuff (and I call her 'her' out of ordinary respect for what I believe is a TS). I have enjoyed the C0mplianc3 series, and others of her files. I am not looking for permanent changes, and I'm glad not to have gotten them.

So, anyway, have at it if you must, but the central question is unanswerable. SB is either a good or bad hypnotist for you, and you only.

>>37185

Oh, sorry, my fault. I meant: Did you manage to "install" any triggers, "that work after your listening/watching".

>>37186

>There are no objective criteria for evaluating hypnotists presented here by anyone, and I am not sure they exist, outside of large, expensive research projects.

The criteria are (for this particular thread) are simple:

o- you experience "something" while "under"

o- post-hypnosis triggers work

> debates about whether a given hypnotist is good or bad, because it is so personal and subjective.

Again, it's simple:

o- the above criteria fulfilled -the hypnotist is "good for me"

o- the above criteria not fulfilled -the hypnotist is "not good for me"

If the criteria are not fulfilled for 80-90% of "testers", then the methods are not good enough for the general public.

arrgghh… typos again… Can I edit posts somehow?

>>37189

You can't, just proofread or don't worry about it m8

>>37188

And how do you know you have an accurate count of 'testers'? All you have on this board is a self-selected sub-group that may well not be representative of the general hypno population. And even worse, you only have the part of that group that chooses to engage in your thread.

As I said in my first post, I usually don't bother to contradict people here who have views contrary to mine, because I don't want to burst their bubble. You, otoh, seem intent on ruining any pleasure that anyone gets from SB in particular.

I think the fact that SB has stayed in business for many years says something for her. Maybe she succeeds by managing to deal with rapid turnover in customers, but it is, I think, more likely that she manages to keep a steady stream of repeat-customers.

We don't have the data, but I think stats on customer persistence would be the surest measure of a hypnotist's effectiveness.

>>37184

I can't remember any specifically, but it definitely made some changes

>>37192

>And how do you know you have an accurate count of 'testers'? All you have on this board is a self-selected sub-group that may well not be representative of the general hypno population. And even worse, you only have the part of that group that chooses to engage in your thread.

Yes. It's still better, than nothing, isn't it? ;)

> You, otoh, seem intent on ruining any pleasure that anyone gets from SB in particular.

I simply outed my frustrations and asked for others experience. And it was my personal response to what I can call "am overinflated hype".

> I think the fact that SB has stayed in business for many years

We do not know it. I doubt, that the site brings enough money to leave the daily job.

> We don't have the data, but I think stats on customer persistence would be the surest measure of a hypnotist's effectiveness.

Agree. Yet the customer reviews on the site are pretty much non-existent, in comparison to, say, V1v3.

>>37184

Also she does have 20 and 30 min vids

>>37195

Honestly why the fuck you care though

>>37197

>Also she does have 20 and 30 min vids

Not on youtube, AFAIK.

>>37198

>Honestly why the fuck you care though

1- Because I can

2- Because I'm curious

3- Because you responded

Pick any ;)

>>37185

Which channel? Never seen that file. I keep seeing the same ones over and over. Any new femme stuff?

>>37202

She has three ~20min vids up right now and has had others in the past

>>37203

Pretty sure winky face is there to cover for your butthurt but I dunno why you're upset

>>37212

YouTube channel. Not vola!

FYI, the line referred to in >>37185 was originally used in Only Real Men

>>37156

>Most people listening to sissy hypnos are very familiar with the intended purposes and contents of the files, even if they don't know what's in them directly.

Which is why it works for them. We don't need people being overly concerned going "EVEN IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BE A SISSY THIS WILL WORK SO NEVER LISTEN TO IT EVER!!!"

>I believe that in SB's files, the subliminals are repetitive and simple enough for your unconscious mind to process them.

I was more referring to the "A which you like to B to C to D which you don't like" type of suggestions and the fragmented sentences type of suggestions. Your mind would likely take these as what they expect (straight suggestions for those who expect that from these files).

I'm not even convinced that your unconscious mind would be able to pick up on the subliminals if you're being distracted by the main track. Almost everyone can only perceive one source of linguistic stimuli at once (which is why you can't read while listening to someone speaking and understand both perfectly). I'd also expect from experiments flashing words at sub-conscious perception speeds, that any information you could gleam from those words would be the tone, such as positive or negative.

>Firstly, it's obvious that under a trance state people are more suggestible

Yes, but being suggestible still goes so far, for everyone there are some things that they just could never be coerced into doing, no matter the amount of suggestion or drugs given to them.

>Second, not only do the files invert the roles of the person being hypnotized, but they also constantly reinforce how good it feels to be in the inverted position with positive messages

And if the person doesn't in their heart of hearts want to be convinced it's good, you won't get much of an effect out of it. It's why gay conversion therapy doesn't work, and just leads people to mental breakdowns, however that shouldn't happen with these files as they feel no moral imperative to accept the suggestions, they'd likely just ignore them.

>making seemingly seamless transitions between the two

If the suggestion is seamless (i.e. not noticeable) then they won't ascribe the positive experiences to the thing it transitioned to, as they never noticed a transition occurred.

>soft and sexy

I see three likely resolutions to this - the listener likes the suggestion of being soft and sexy and accepts it, the listener doesn't like that suggestion and rejects it, or the listener doesn't notice and still thinks it's about SB.

>Overall through their more cryptic nature I think they're better than most other files out there

Yeah, they're pretty neat, and give a lot of fantasy material like what you're talking about, regardless of whether that fantasy material is base din relaity or not.

>>37182

If you don't mind, could you tell me what the other tts hypnotist that worked for you was ?

>>37177

First time I came across that particular line of SB's was in one of the videos on the old youtube channel that no longer exists. After that I have ran into it off and on in various other videos produced on the youtube channels and dailymotion among other places. Later I ran across it in a few of the mp3 files but it is hard to tell you exactly which ones since I have around 140 saved to my pc at this time and I do not regularly scan them for which has what.

Generally speaking the only time I take the time anymore to check out SB files is when someone tries to claim they don't contain deliberate dangerous attempts at forcibly changing people, or when someone requests a "what does X file contain?"

I think however that this particular line can be found in her Compliance series among others. Next time I actively check that series I will respond back with a confirmation if this thread is still around.

>>37161

You're really not looking at SB files the right way. You're trying to claim that because the stuff hidden in SB files are hidden too well they can't have an effect because you don't notice them. That would only be true if SB was using "typical" hypno practice of simply affirmations over and over to flood past the mind's defenses. Instead SB attempts to never even alert your mind that something needs to be defended against and instead let the constant exposure to stimulus without being defensive about it to make the changes.

I've said this before and I will say it again. If all you want is files that reaffirm your belief that you are really female or a sissy or whatever then SB is probably not the most effective one. People who actively want the change probably are the ones least likely to actually be changed from the way SB has trapped the files.

I have never said that SB is the best or most effective hypnotist out there. But I will say this endlessly until someone comes along who is even more immoral and diabolical. SB is the most dangerous hypnotist out there. Because almost all other forms of hypnosis you will find are completely safe if you do not want the programming to take effect as long as you don't continue to keep replaying them. However, SB's system actually might work even on someone resistant to the idealogy found in the files.

Again, I am not saying thay anyone who listens to SB files will automatically be turned gay, nor am I saying that there aren't better methods out there for a willing participant to become changed. All I am saying is that the approach used by SB is one of the most probable ways of success with converting someone who is not of the intended mindset.

I think the number of people I have witnessed claiming that the files have affected them is significant even if as far as I am aware I have managed to not be effected to any significant extent after a decade or so of exposure. But even if every single one of them was just playing along or placebo'd into believing they were changed it does not change one key important factor.

Regardless of whether SB's files really work on forcibly converting undesiring guys into becoming feminized, the fact is that SB intended that to be the case. The only possible reason for someone to put together their files the way SB does is if they wanted to force a gender change against someone's wish. It makes no sense for any other explanation.

And that is the one thing which truly marks SB as evil, dangerous, immoral, inhumane, devious, diabolical, duplicitous, and any other words of that nature. That someone went out of their way to try to create things with the sole purpose of screwing up people's lives is absolutely abominable. Even if it only ever affects just a single person it would be too many, and I somehow just can't help but feel that there are too many people admitting they were affected by it to believe otherwise. And that is before getting into anyone who was affected and didn't even realize the original source or who simply meekly accepted their newly changed lifestyle without posting about it.

>>37222

>Instead SB attempts to never even alert your mind that something needs to be defended against and instead let the constant exposure to stimulus without being defensive about it to make the changes.

Again, why does this work. This is backed up by nothing, and there is tons of evidence showing the contrary to be true.

>However, SB's system actually might work even on someone resistant to the idealogy found in the files.

[citation needed]

>All I am saying is that the approach used by SB is one of the most probable ways of success with converting someone who is not of the intended mindset.

[citation needed]

>The only possible reason for someone to put together their files the way SB does is if they wanted to force a gender change against someone's wish. It makes no sense for any other explanation.

Or maybe because they're playing into the fantasy of someone who wants that, or have that fantasy themselves and want to fulfill it you daft cunt.

>And that is the one thing which truly marks SB as evil, dangerous, immoral, inhumane, devious, diabolical, duplicitous, and any other words of that nature.

Do you get this mad whenever you see a "I just stalked and killed someone and buried them and here's graphic detail of how I did that in 4 paragraphs" creepypasta?

>>37219

>for everyone there are some things that they just could never be coerced into doing, no matter the amount of suggestion or drugs given to them.

This is questionable. Thinks of gypsy street hypnosis. People give them all the money without even knowing why they are doing that. And I do not think it appeals to them.

>>37212

>She has three ~20min vids up right now and has had others in the past

True, but what I mean is that among 103 old youtube videos I have, about 95 are between 1 and 10 minutes.

>>37222

>You're really not looking at SB files the right way. You're trying to claim that because the stuff hidden in SB files are hidden too well they can't have an effect because you don't notice them.

Basically, I'm trying to understand if incomprehensible subliminals work at all. I tried many different methods, and so far I can say that they are not efficient. And I have the same experience with SB's files - no subliminal suggestions work. Or at least I did not notice it.

> If all you want is files that reaffirm your belief that you are really female or a sissy or whatever then SB is probably not the most effective one.

I do not want any reaffirmation, but I'm interested in some suggestions, scenarios and triggers claimed in SB's files. So, I'm not the one who tries to prove that it does not work, but rather the other way around. However, it still does not work. Even, what's suggested in the main track (with some exceptions).

> I think the number of people I have witnessed claiming that the files have affected them is significant

This is exactly what I'm interested in. Possibly the files DO work in another way - they just give a "development vector". Dunno…

> And that is the one thing which truly marks SB as evil, dangerous, immoral, inhumane, devious, diabolical, duplicitous, and any other words of that nature.

Totally agree here.

Just listen to PInk surprise for the second time. In comparison to the 1st time the trance was deeper (or it was not a trance but a state close to short napping, dunno), but there were no effects like the 1st time. Even no arousal.

The file is about craving for cocks, and it's supposed to install a trigger "cockslut queen". I did not pick up anything about this trigger, but it does not work anyway lol.

Did anybody notice a deteriorating effect from listening to SB's files? The more you listen, the less the result?

>>37259

>Just listen to PInk surprise

Just listenED to "Pink Surprise" …

>>37259

>>37260

>Pink Surprise

Is that the full name of the file? Can you give more details? I've never heard of that one.

>>37243

People don't naturally have an insane repulsion to giving money to people, they do it all the time.

Your confusion here is like how some people think "I never forget my name normally, and don't particularly want it, so how can hypnosis make me forget it?" when most people really don't have a strong aversion to forgetting their name for a few minutes.

>>37260

>>Pink Surprise

>Is that the full name of the file? Can you give more details? I've never heard of that one.

It's from the Pink Collar series. For some reason only a couple of them is available on the site.

In short. You are naked, wearing only a pink collar, on a bed. 54m4nth4 f#$%^ you in all orifices with her cock, and you enjoy it. Then you both ejaculate at the same time. The file suggests love for cocks, and no gagging effect when you have one in your throat. Something like that.

>>37268

>>>37243 (You)

>People don't naturally have an insane repulsion to giving money to people, they do it all the time.

>Your confusion here is like how some people think "I never forget my name normally, and don't particularly want it, so how can hypnosis make me forget it?" when most people really don't have a strong aversion to forgetting their name for a few minutes.

Arrghg, I knew that someone will say that, but was too lazy to go into details. I bet you understand what I meant: "Usually people do not like parting with their possessions against their will".

>>37186

>I call her 'her' out of ordinary respect for what I believe is a TS

Why do people think, that SB is an m2f TS?

>>37136

>Right now I think hypno seems more like a guided placebo effect. While placebo does have a negative counterpart with the nocebo effect, the important part is that both of these require your knowledge and wholehearted belief in a change for it to become real.

Ha! Yes. Comments from SB's youtube HFO video page:

Q: "How is this supposed to make HFO? There is no leading voice, neither a HFO command or trigger in any of voice layers? Whole video is good for inducing trance, but without even mentioning orgasm, and mentioning word arousal twice in third layer is not going to make HFO."

A: "it’s subconscious. Fantasize as you listen and see what happens"

ROTFL!!!

>>37174

i THINK there are multiple versions

>>37264

i am not >>37259

maybe it is this

/r/hcj9xpfc

It's empty.

If I train with the compliance series will I need an email from 54m4nth4 to cum (written permission) or is using triggers in her files and videos a form of permission?

>>37286

And a follow up question: is there an actual chastity device involved or is it just the hypnotic equivalent; i.e. your dick going limp if you try to masturbate, lose sensation, etc.?

>>37255

>Quoting me: You are told that the way you think now is normal and nothing to be afraid of or distasteful. Then it attempts to put even more subconscious associations with phallic objects, penetrations, and desires while further trying to build your identity as a beautiful person who is normal and open to all things pink and sexy with a healthy desire for swallowing and receiving sexual insertions. It also attempts to make the scent of a male partner to become addictive. Etc.

>Now that is a flat out lie nothing like that is present in wipeclean v2 or wipeclean, unless you picked apart the file and seperated the audio tracks and found this in a hidden barely audible track that was even less audible than the "mommy" shit that is mentioned briefly but still audibly then you're full of shit.

Why the hell do people keep trying to pull this "it is not there" "you are lying" nonsense and think I am not going to call them on their stupidity? _Especially_ considering I just got through posting in this thread _exact_ _quotes_ and _times_ from the file?

Seriously? Are you completely braindead that you still post that after I have given 100% proof that it is in fact _there_ but you were too naive or entranced to realize it?

Go back and read my post >>37171 and see for yourself without being tranced first the _exact_ times to move the file to and listen for the words exactly described. I'm not even cherry picking the worst parts of the file. I only stopped when I did because the point had been proven. And I completely skipped over dozens of repeats of the prior mentioned lines or lines which could be looked at as questionable.

Further, as you may notice from my post, the deeper into the file you get, the more obvious SB's attempt to change the feelings of your newly developed thoughts into being considered old / accepted / normal / to be ignored / not to worry about.

And then to further cement the fact that these words are there for even the most braindead or entranced naive supporters I specifically pointed to a 37 second clip duration where an entire thread of "ignore the changes" was spoken of. Just as one final nail in the coffin of anyone wanting to claim it wasn't in the file.

And yet you are still here posting that it is a lie? Seriously? You are either completely braindead or lying your own arse off. Either way I want nothing more to do with someone behaving like that. Go away.

>>37294

What’s the deal with mommy and the baby cry?

>>37231

>Again, why does this work. This is backed up by nothing, and there is tons of evidence showing the contrary to be true.

First I will say something again that most people seem to ignore. I do not know whether what SB is attempting to achieve has ever actually worked. People have certainly claimed it worked on them, but it never as far as I am aware worked on me.

Second, if it works, which again I am not sure it does, then it is relying on the ability to abuse trust during a hypnotic trance. This is the exact same thing which some hypnotists have used to fake reincarnation memories in subjects, and that a few people have been reported over the years for abusing to make patients have relationships with their hypnotist.

Basically the hypnotist in question tries to frontend load feelings of trust in their subject by saying things the listener wants to hear. Then only after the trust has been established works to manipulate their subject.

I will repeat. I do not know if this works. It would be completely unethical to even attempt this. Only someone truly evil and despicable would even try.

See prior paragraph regarding citation. Hard to quote a study when only someone completely unethical would even test something like this.

But suppose you want proof that feelings and emotions can really be changed like that by someone you trust? I won't turn the onus on you by asking you to remember something that happened to you. Instead let me state that on my first day at school I was really apprehensive. My mother however agreed that a new school away from home could be scary and said that if I wanted to I could stay home. Then when she had established that she was on my side, she casually started to describe the friends she had made at school and great times she still had with some of those friends. Long story short I went to school that day excited at the chance of making new friends.

"But you were just a kid" - this is of course true. So perhaps a situation where adults did something they really didn't want to do because someone they trusted told them to do it? Do a google search for "Milgram Experiment" please. Or perhaps do a google search for stories about people rescued from 9/11 tower rubble who mentioned that they were planning on leaving the tower but stayed when messages were played over the tower's speaker system saying to stay where they were? Both of those too extreme?

Anyway moving on…

>Quoting me: The only possible reason for someone to put together their files the way SB does is if they wanted to force a gender change against someone's wish. It makes no sense for any other explanation.

>Or maybe because they're playing into the fantasy of someone who wants that, or have that fantasy themselves and want to fulfill it you daft cunt.

… you or someone like you just got through the day before saying that the stuff wasn't even in the files before I got through proving it wrong. Now you're here trying to tell me that SB snuck these things in there just so people could fantasy about it? Let me ask you something, if people don't even know this stuff is in there until it is painfully obviously pointed out then how the hell can they fantasize about it being in there? Seriously? Are you trolling or something? And the personal insult was really not necessary there either.

Moving on…

>Quoting me: And that is the one thing which truly marks SB as evil, dangerous, immoral, inhumane, devious, diabolical, duplicitous, and any other words of that nature.

>Do you get this mad whenever you see a "I just stalked and killed someone and buried them and here's graphic detail of how I did that in 4 paragraphs" creepypasta?

First of all, there is a huge difference between telling a story and trying to change someone. But regarding the creepypasta genre of using real life events as horror creepy songs… as a human being I am appalled that someone actually came up with the idea of making songs like this, while as an intellectual I have to admit they did an amazing job with what they did. I was even more appalled by the song which when played backwards sounds like someone reciting the lines of a letter about a child they abducted, killed, and cannibalized. But at least that song only is used for entertainment and does not make attempts to change people without their knowledge.

Let me put this out there since you brought it up. If, instead of trying to make straight men gay, SB was trying to turn men into child abductors using the exact same tricks would you still be supporting that it was all just for entertainment?

>>37272

I think the difference is that those people are likely not too angry about the money they gave away.

Like, some people would get furious/violent if someone stole their money, and I think those kinds of people wouldn't be susceptible to gypsy street hypnosis. But there are also some people who give money to beggars on the street, who wouldn't fret much about a little bit of lost cash, and those would be susceptible to it.

Perhaps some more research in this specific application in particular would be useful.

>>37296

>First

Then why are you making posts like this? "This person is super evil and despicable and no-one who doesn't want it should listen to the files, but they probably don't even work anyway." Why even fearmonger without any reason to believe that there's something to be feared?

>Second

Fake memories are super common and the methods for creating those cannot be used for making someone gay. Creating relationships of the prior sexuality is also very different from changing someone's sexuality.

>I will repeat. I do not know if this works.

I can provide convincing reasons for why it won't work. You can't provide convincing reasons for why it will work. After hearing this, your stance shouldn't be "well it MIGHT work so I'm going to fearmonger about it"

>But suppose you want proof that feelings and emotions can really be changed like that by someone you trust?

There is a HUGE difference between changing a neutral stimuli to a positive one, and changing someone's sexuality.

>Milgram experiment, 9/11

These are examples of authority changing someone's actions, you can look at all the failed attempts at gay conversion therapy for authority trying to change someone's sexuality.

Also, even in the Milgram experiment, there's still a consistent 10-30% of people who don't go through with it, because the acts they're performing so strongly contradict their moral code.

I'd compare your examples more along the lines of "getting someone to say pink is their favourite colour". It's a change in actions, not a change in their underlying desires. People who were rescued from 9/11 tower rubble didn't have a desire to stand in collapsing buildings.

>you or someone like you

God I hope they're not like me. That stuff is obviously in the files.

>if people don't even know this stuff is in there until it is painfully obviously pointed out then how the hell can they fantasize about it being in there?

They can't until it's pointed out. Like it is in almost every thread that mentions SB.

Some creators of works enjoy hiding stuff in them which only few will ever notice, but the ones who do notice will appreciate. This can be fun for both the creator, and those who notice it.

>There is a huge difference between telling a story and trying to change someone.

Both are entertainment, unless the person the creator is trying to change isn't willing, which, as I explained, wouldn't happen.

>What if SB turned men into child abductors.

My instinctive answer is "No, since that's pushing people to doing crimes, and only serves that purpose", but then I asked myself what if SB was encouraging people to shoplift? My answer would still be no, but my level of care goes down for the severity of the crime.

The context/community/method/advertising of it would also play a part. I'm a big believer of context making all the difference, and if the context was as a joking April fools file I would be fine with it. If there were a community of bordeline pedos looking to get pushed into abducting children, as well as wanting tips for that, I wouldn't support it.

The key difference being, I believe being gay is an acceptable form of entertainment, and that encouraging gay people to do gay stuff is an acceptable form of entertainment. However, I believe that committing crimes isn't an acceptable form of entertainment, and that encouraging people to do crimes isn't an acceptable form of entertainment. With the obvious caveat of things which are jokes, and not made to actually encourage people to commit crimes.

>>37314

To expand on what I meant by

>I'd compare your examples more along the lines of "getting someone to say pink is their favourite colour". It's a change in actions, not a change in their underlying desires. People who were rescued from 9/11 tower rubble didn't have a desire to stand in collapsing buildings.

I believe that a credible authority (military/police officer) with a credible story, backed up by credible sources, could get a straight man to suck a dick/take one up the ass. However, this wouldn't change their underlying feelings about taking those actions in the future.

The key differences between the milgram experiment, 9/11, and to a certain extent your apprehension going to school, are that all of those were forced on by credible authorities (scientists, rescue officers, and your mother respectively), who had credible stories (doing this is required by an experiment which you both agreed to do, trying to leave yourself could be dangerous and we might not be able to save you, you can stay home if you want but I have a lot of good stories from school) whose stories were backed up by trusted sources (the experiment was explained to you before it happened, you just saw a plane crash into the fucking building, seeing school as a positive thing on TV or hearing about it positively from others). And that even with all this, this doesn't affect everyone, and doesn't affect your underlying feelings about doing these actions again. People didn't run around tazering random people after the milgram experiment, or standing on demolition sites after 9/11.

SB won't work for this because it's trying to change your underlying feelings, and even if it was a trusted authority to the person listening to it (even though this usually requires a literal lifelong establishment of unquestionable authority), the story wouldn't be credible or backed up by other sources.

>>37282

if your brain then you are a GOOD GIRL

>>37290

i haven't heard the files yet

but as far as i know the 505 is the release file

check the last thread

>>37325

>check the last thread

Which one?

>>37314

>Some creators of works enjoy hiding stuff in them which only few will ever notice, but the ones who do notice will appreciate. This can be fun for both the creator, and those who notice it.

Very good point. It is, indeed, fun, but however, it does not add anything to hypnosis.

I think that it does not matter what actual words are what "small phrases" are used. The mind picks up the whole picture.

Imagine a sine wave, made from squares, triangles, circles, etc. While the triangles do contradict the sine, what you will see is a sine.

IMHO, Wipe Clean is an example of such a picture. I notice the sine wave, in this case, remove all suggestions (with the ball of light).

SB is obsessed with subliminals (it's also in his blog), that might work as a placebo effect, provided, you know what these subliminals are about. If it's not known, and the subliminals cannot be easily picked up by the conscious mind, there is no result. In this particular case, my experience corresponds the "official science" and big corporations - "subliminals are not effective".

The SB's files I have tried have very weak "main line". What might work is, indeed, imagination and associations. For example, if you drop "cock", "arousal", "harder and harder" words in the track salad, it's not very difficult to draw a conclusion, that you are expected to have an erection.

Basically, all what most SB's files have "inside" is a noise of words pieces of phrases, your mind might freely arrange into something or nothing. And with the absence of the proper guide lines it's usually "nothing".

I must admit, that SB's confusion technique does help to induce trance states. But that's about it.

I found the "on all fours" phrase in Compliance 101.

>>37339

It’s also in bless body hair removal

>Yet the customer reviews on the site are pretty much non-existent, in comparison to, say, V1v3.

25% discount does not help either. From http://samathaB4nd|3r.blogspot.nl/2016/05/product-reviews.html

"Write and post 3 reviews and I will send you a discount code worth 25% off your next order. To claim the 'reward' simply write and post reviews on 3 of my products and send me an email telling me which products you reviewed. I will then send you the discount code."

Apparently 25% is not enough :D C'mon SB, don't be that greedy. Your stuff is way overpriced!

>>37332

https://8ch.net/hypno/res/29285.html

/r/hcj9xpfc

For those who DO want to be feminized by SB what are the most powerful files?

>>37372

>For those who DO want to be feminized by SB what are the most powerful files?

I haven't found any so far. Most of the files are about obeying 54m4nth4, the rest should be done by your imagination using the soup of various words and pieces of phrases.

>>37214

Yes, YouTube channel. Go check, dipthong.

>>37426

>Yes, YouTube channel. Go check, dipthong.

There's not much on SB's YT channel. Which video do you mean?

"Magic Mirror"?

>>37427

Any of the three 20min+ ones

>>37220

Sorry for the late reply, it was K31

>>37372

G00d G1rl, P3r5u4510n 1

>>37433

Thank you. Do either refer to the listener having a penis? I hate when a fem file has that because it takes me out unless it mentions it going away

>>37435

Not that I can recall

>>37435

As far as I am aware SB almost never refers to a listener's penis as one. Always preferring to the euphemism "pleasure center". This is because it can then be used to transfer the body part being talked about more subtly to the receiving zones rather than an insertion tool.

By that I mean it would probably jump out at people more if they heard someone switch from saying "your penis feels so good being stroked" to saying "your asshole feels so good being stroked" along with messages like "you can feel it so good - deep down deep - in your pleasure center (penis / anus)".

The only exception that I am sure of, where it actually refers to a listener's penis, is the Penis Enlargement file. And that was more to bait and switch males with penis envy.

>>37433

>G00d G1rl

Don't have one :(

But will try P3r5u4510n

"Magic Mirror" video:

- obey 54m4nth4

- tell friends

- think of 54m4nth4, when you touch yourself

- go to SB's site and listen to Compliance 101

Useless, unless I missed something.

P3rsuasi0n was nice apparently. Must’ve been cause I blanked out during most of it. I thought I fell asleep actually but I woke up during the countup so possibly not. I’m pretty hard to hypnotize so I’m not entirely sure.

G00d G1rl was good too when I’ve listened to it previously but most of it was induction… only around five minutes or less is actual content. I HATE it when that happens. Honestly that’s why I download files. I end up purchasing most of what I listen to because I’ve gotten burned in the past.

If anyone here has purchased and listened to the feminization recordings besides the ones uploaded previously, how were they?

>>37460

Curious if you experienced any after effects

>>37464

So am I . I’m going to listen to it again tonight and see what happens

So far I had no success with SB. Nothing "sticks".

I'm thinking about buying her Pickup Artist files to see if they work as intended. I'm kind of infatuated with 54m4nth4 right now.

>>37469

> I'm kind of infatuated with 54m4nth4 right now.

Do you have any success with other SB's files? Any triggers?

>>37469

>I'm thinking about buying her Pickup Artist files

I wonder if the idea is the same:

https://www.warpmymind.com/index.php?gadget=HFiles&action=GetFile&file_id=7517

https://www.warpmymind.com/index.php?gadget=HFiles&action=GetFile&file_id=7625

>>37460

my favorites are Sissy Girl and Bless feminine fun. Pretty self explanatory content.

>>37478

>Bless feminine fun.

This file is nice to listen, but that's it. Did the suggestions/triggers worked for you?

>>37480

s/worked/work/

Today, for the first time in my life, I feel genuinely affected by hypnosis. In a way that was completely natural feeling and automatic, I was checking out guys, feeling an attraction towards them. This is a first. I believe 54m4nth4's files have affected me at an unconscious level, thereby changing my behavior and subsequent experience in waking life. This is very different than all my prior years of listening to hypnosis files, playing with the idea of being triggered, trying to act out a fetish, donning a role, if you will. It's just there. All of a sudden, I'm looking at guys like, "Damn! I'm feeling good about the way you look." It could be a fluke, maybe a one-off thing. It felt genuine though, a big enough change to be noticeable but so smooth and natural feeling like it's my normal behavior. A nice way to put it is that I was suddenly feeling a certain way without any conscious thoughts involved or being necessary to trigger such feelings. It might be the Penis Enlarge file I listened to recently for the first time, though I rather think its the cumulative effects of listening to her files daily for an extended period, laying fertile ground in my mind for such a suggestion, if it indeed came from the Penis Enlarge file, to be planted. I'm stoked. I feel like I hit the holy grail. If its real, I no longer have hangups about gay sex. I'm not giving 54m4nth4 total credit. I am my own person, after all. But she is giving me a nice permission slip to new experiences. I hope you all have similar experiences if this is what you're seeking from whatever hypnotist you're listening to.

Just listened to:

Trapped 1:

- when you masturbate and about to come, think of 54m4nth4

- think of being penetrated by bouncers

- various transformations, mostly m2f

- boys make good girls

- sucking a dick-girl

- wearing pink panties and stockings

Trapped 2:

- sissy girls are better than real girls

- sissy girls are always ready to suck & fuck

- sissies are limp

- if a sissy gets an erection, he will be punished by fucking another sissy's ass

- being fucked is a reward for being limp

- wearing pink panties and stockings

Both sessions are a bit too long for what they are, and at the end II got tired of and annoyed by this stuff.

The outcome is: being sissy and girly is tedious and boring, and being an "active" gay is a punishment and a no-no :D

Oh, forgot another thing:

- orgasms must be allowed by 54m4nth4

Tricked 1

You are tricked into sucking a cock of a big smelly muscular non-English speaking guy (in jock-strap and white socks) while in bondage wearing black lingerie.

It's done in a bit different style, like:

- You are offered ….

- (You accept)

- She asks if you …

- (Yes, you agree)

I did not notice any triggers or post hypnotic suggestions, but I was constantly being interrupted. I was even a bit aroused at some point, but nothing more. Again, too long for what t is.

I don't have Tricked 2. Anybody?

>>37487

>feeling certain

>>37506

https://volafile.org/r/hgh0w0rc

ask and ye shall receive

>>37517

>https://volafile.org/r/hgh0w0rc

It's empty :(

>>37520

weird, i still see it from this PC but on a proxy it's not there

probably reported - maybe shemale police are here, maybe the file was previously reported and taken down automatically via checksum or sth

uploaded again as rar

>>37521

That worked! Thanks much!

(BTW, I'm banned for 7 weeks without a warning for sharing a K31's Amber file :D )

Oh, that's Trapped 2, not Tricked 2. They are two different files (see the Trapped 2 report above).

>>37524

i have them both - they're different lengths

what indicates it's the wrong file to you?

trivked2.rar on Vola is Trapped 2. And I'm looking for Tricked 2.

>>37527

yes i'm saying what exactly indicates that to you

the file i posted is 50min long, tricked 2 is 50min long

trapped 2 is 39min long

?????

OH! My sincere apologies! You are right! I confused it with another file! Sorry and thanks again!

>>37073

not overrated. It genuinely made me gay and i feel really feminine and soft whenever i fap. you just have to listen to a lot and enjoy the ride, try to make it as pleasurable as posible without any expectations.

>>37525

Any chance of an rar upload of Trapped 1 & 2 also? I only knew of the Tricked 1 & 2 from this hypnotist.

It seems like SB deleted or lost some of her files when she changed sites, cause I can't find descriptions for a lot of her files, does anyone have it?

Feels good to trust 54m4nth4

OH! My sincere apologies! You are right! I confused it with another file! Sorry and thanks again!>>37626

>It seems like SB deleted or lost some of her files when she changed sites, cause I can't find descriptions for a lot of her files, does anyone have it?

From SB's blog:

http://samathaB4nd|3r.blogspot.nl/2017/09/catalog-changes.html

"

Some of the older sessions are indeed lower quality than my current level. Some of them also advertise the old sites… which may be confusing.

My marketing consultant tells me I have too many choices… they say research shows six products sell better than 36, but I can't see how cutting down my catalog to six sessions would increase my sales."

It was not an answer, but the reason ;)

Some of SB's files disappeared from WMM as well. Along with descriptions.

>>37626

> I can't find descriptions for a lot of her files, does anyone have it?

>>37626

Just use this thread to get the actual content of the sessions, not the bullshit SB posted as descriptions :D

>>37642

Bullshit? I've been talking with 54m4nth4 for a while and she's always honest about her files

Post her video files

>>37651

>Bullshit? I've been talking with 54m4nth4 for a while and she's always honest about her files

I can't comment your conversations with SB, but I did find some … errrr.. mismatches between the descriptions and the contents. SB confirmed, BTW. See his blog or posts above.

>>37661

>Post her video files

99% of SB's videos do not contain anything but:obey 54m4nth4, goto the website, tell friends and everybody how you like 54m4nth4 and 54m4nth4's files, buy files from the website. Why do you need that?

Anyway, if you still want need the videos, for some reason, you can use this torrent:

magnet:?xt=urn:btih:cacb331e9b803990562cb54b32eb3318e8ed6033&dn=54m4nth4

>>37675

>54m4nth4

Do not forget to replace this word with the correct name.

>>37674

I don't mean to argue, but 54m4nth4 makes the files, obviously she'd know what's in them

>>37677

>I don't mean to argue, but 54m4nth4 makes the files, obviously she'd know what's in them

You did not read posts in this thread, did you?

And this one:

https://8ch.net/hypno/res/29285.html

>>37677

OK, just read this one (http://samathaB4nd|3r.blogspot.nl/2018/01/penis-enlargement-session.html )

Penis Enlargement Session

A fan writes:

See this is why your files are too good, I’ve listened to it quite a bit and something like that does make sense but every time I listen to it and trance it normally leaves with slight amnesia to an extent with no other hypnotist has managed with me and when I’ve tried to listen through for anything looking for what’s in it because of how you deliver your files I can’t find anything like that.

With penis enlargement it was probably one of the first real hypnotist tracks I listened to enough to have any effect, thinking it was doing what I said. It started with me focusing on the cocks in porn a lot which I noticed but honestly couldn’t tell why I was doing it. After about a month I’d really started to enjoy they idea of anal with a toy. I mean I’m not gay, obviously, but even at the time I instinctively got a realistic dildo to use, and it was mind-blowing. I started to use it a lot, but honestly, by then my porn was getting to the point where it was about the cock. I was starting to think what it would do to me, and what I’d want to do with it. In the end I realised my sudden craving for big and large cocks and no growth myself may have been the files doing. It didn’t stop me going back though.

Str8Man

Dear Str8Man,

Yes, Penis Enlargement does not increase the size of your penis… it increases the size of your Desire for Penis. Perhaps I should have been more specific in the session description?

That is a big question in my mind. Should I describe exactly what my sessions do in all possible detail? Should I say it has background music, hypnotic whispers, trance conditioning chimes, back-masked subliminals, and binaural beats?

Or is it good enough to say it is an interesting experience you will enjoy?

54m4nth4 in Control 01 says nothing about the content of the session and it is very popular. So is 54m4nth4 in Control 02. The sessions that deal with sissy themes and above all cock sucking are the best sellers. Why is that? Is it that cock suckers are happy to pay for adventures?

Or is it that cock suckers are so much better off financially that $40 is nothing to them.

54m4nth4

in Lucid Sexual Dreaming:

caught a tidbit on trying out toys, and that they are always the right size in trance.

>>37679

The original point was that 54m4nth4 is lying, if she admits it in a blog post then she's not lying about the files. I trust 54m4nth4

I got a question guys,

which files are supposed to give you a HFO?

I've never yet tried anything, but since I never experienced a HFO and people claim her files are super effective, I'd like to try a HFO file. I'm just not sure about the side effects and would like to be able to choose.

Not sure if I should ask her via Email, she'd probably try to sell me the most expensive/new stuff.

>>37689

>The original point was that 54m4nth4 is lying, if she admits it in a blog post then she's not lying about the files. I trust 54m4nth4

The original point was that file descriptions do not correspond the content, hence useless.

>>37696

>I've never yet tried anything, but since I never experienced a HFO and people claim her files are super effective,

Super-effective? Where did you read that?

>>37696

Try her compliance series, train with it for a few weeks, it will give you a lot of pleasure.

>>37703

>Try her compliance series, train with it for a few weeks, it will give you a lot of pleasure.

If the Compliance files work you will not be able to cum without SB's permission.

>>37696

Taken

The video Cum for 54m4nth4

It seems like 'Intense Orgasm Trigger' would have it but I've never listened.

HF Helper

Training with her Trance Training files can be helpful. I almost came from the later ones, but there's no specific trigger to do so.

Her latest file, DARE, guarantees you will orgasm from any of her HFO files if you listen to it every day for 3 weeks, or she will make you a custom file for free. It is a virtual chastity file.

>>37707

Obligatory beg for D.A.R.E

>>37709

Sorry, I don't want to share it. This file is notable for being the first file I've heard her give anti-piracy suggestions. Something along the lines of "purchasing this file makes it work".

>>37712

>Something along the lines of "purchasing this file makes it work".

Just cut it out with Audacity :D

Does this file work, BTW? At least a bit to justify its price? So far I haven't found a single SB's file I would agree to pay anything. Rather the other ways around :D

>>37714

… agree to pay for …

>>37714

The file works just like most of 54m4nth4's, it's very good and more than worth the money. I have a growing need to pay her for all the files I've pirated, I'm not quite at that point yet, but I just really need to please her

>>37722

>I have a growing need to pay her for all the files I've pirated

Yeah,apparently this is what SB is good at LOL

However, I have an urge to get money from SB for wasting time :D

>>37106

That stuff is literally B4mb1 0.9

So what's the real intention/hidden content of 'Rim Job Trigger'? I want to have some fun, not turn into a submissive faggot.

>>37714

I bought the file but I'm so burned out on her right now, I've only listened to it once.

>>37675

So I checked the torrent

it seems that most of the video files are from her youtube page …

i could be wrong but I don't see the stuff that she (Richard B4nd|3r) sells on the website

stuff like

Longer Stronger 2

Edge454m4nth4

cum54m4nth4

trancebj

etc

>>37749

>it seems that most of the video files are from her youtube page …

Yes, and they were deleted from Youtube.

Any luck with DARE? What is this file "in fact" about? Does it simply make you limp unless SB tells you:"Yeah, OK, you can fap now"? Apart from obey, pay and think about 54m4nth4, tell friends, that is? LOL Any typical SB sissy/gay/pink panty stuff?

>>37770

No the file does as the description says, it is very good and will make you feel really good

>>37770

I listened once and don't feel like listening again but I remember red lipstick turning you on is the first thing you hear. There is some imaginary dressing up for her, but nothing overtly fem or sissy. More mirrors. You end up accepting her device, a cock lock. This causes you to be limp but you're constantly aroused by 54m4nth4. You're supposed to listen to the file every day. I remember the file ending with suggestions about 54m4nth4 controlling your erections and orgasms. Since the file is intended to enhance her HFO files, I think you're supposed to construe permission from her through those files. Maybe you're supposed to imagine taking off the chastity device if she tells you to get hard in another file? I didn't notice any "you need written permission" or email contact stuff. Without further listening, that's all I have for you, except for the aforementioned anti-piracy suggestions.

>>37640

>I can't see how cutting down my catalog to six sessions would increase my sales.

>makes hypnosis videos based off of meme psychology

>never heard of decision paralysis

Not sure how surprised I should be to learn this.

Anyone tried the Sex Tourist files?

>>37770

>>37771

>>37772

The file sounds hot AF. Officially begging for someone to share

I am deleting everything I have. I will make a change in my life.

>>37898

Share it before you go.

>>37899

No. It's unhealthy.

>>37863

Why would you want it if it has "antipiracy"? you haven't bought it

>>37901

Why?

>>37903

>implying antipiracy suggestions work

>>37904

>Why

>>37074

>>37679

>>37910

Not unhealthy to enjoy that sort of thing.

>>37895

>compliance training

is just boring …

>>37911

Whatever you say Schlomo

>>37901

>No. It's unhealthy.

Any examples oh healthy hypnosis? (I don't think there will be anything by SB :D )

>>37948

There are self improvement files a person used to post on vola. Don't have em anymore though.

SB sometimes uses a jingle, for a lack of better word, that is obviously a trigger and I have a feeling it's just used at random. What's that supposed to do? Is there a file to learn what it triggers?

>>37962

the elevator noise right? I think it's a signal to fall down into trance

SB uses several such signals. Also in one file. I don't get it, to be honest. Neither of them works as a trance trigger, probably they mark something else.

>>37968

>Neither of them works

Sounds like SB's signature LOL!

>>37963

>>37968

I've found a file where it more or less makes sense. It's in Tgirl Fantasy 01, just before a dick comes out of the wall. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>37696

Trigger Happy worked very well for me

I hate that sound. It always makes me think someone is ringing my doorbell, which is a real trance-kill.

>>37863

I'm interested as well.

>>38021

Ha! Exactly what I said! "Wipe Clean" is "clean"!

>>38006

>Trigger Happy worked very well for me

What is it about?

>>38021

>>38029

Whore, your stupidity hurts. So first you admit the shilling, then you use the admission as something to make the shilling more believable? Stupidity knows no bounds, bitch.

>>38033

>then you use the admission as something to make the shilling more believable?

Who cares? The files have no effects anyway ROTFL!

>>37100

I too found Mistress C4tg1r|'s gogo bubble file to have a profound effect on me. No other file has had the save effect - not even her other work. Something about that file grabbed ahold of me strongly after only a small number of listens, and I still go back every 6 months of so. I can't shake it.

yes that was my comment. We need to find the best "forget a file" file we can so it can be like the very first time. Viv3 has one named that and SB has "for the first time" … that might help to forget and reexperience the freshness similar to the very first listen…

>>38030

>>38006

It seems it makes you act on more or less random post-hypnotic suggestions, encouraging the listening with a HFO.

The only thing it gave me though was a pretty terrible headache.

>>38021

>>38029

I am not sure whether to laugh or cry at how willfully ignorant those posts are to reality. At best you are someone who is so deeply controlled that you would believe anything. At worst you are the hypnotist in question and, trying to drown out proof of your files being nefarious, trying to do a smear campaign.

But either way you can not change facts. Wipe Clean v2 has countless messages in it which have been exposed for what they are. There is really no way anyone can take that supposed post by the hypnotist with any seriousness once they are aware of exactly what is being said in the file. But please, if you can think of a way for the quoted lines being taken out of context do tell us.

>"Don't be concerned with - your changing behavior - just live your life - in ways that make you happy - any and all changes - that may have previously been suggested - accepting new things as old - so that you may be normal without effort - and see no effects - all you see is your normal self - do not pay any attention - you are beautiful, powerful - understanding what my voice is saying you will follow me." 08:43-09:20

/sarcasm mode engaged/ Yes, all of that is so easy to take out of context. Why anyone would ever take that to be about anything other than removing bad hypnosis from your brain is bizarre. /sarcasm module removed/

Either one of two things is at work here. First possibility is that you lied about posting that to SB and getting a response. Second possibility is SB lied to one of their customers and said to their face "what I do is harmless" while grinning as one hand gripped around the dagger thrust into your body.

>>38083

> First possibility is that you lied about posting that to SB and getting a response. Second possibility is SB lied to one of their customers

Hm… Yes, entirely possible.

Tbh SB seems like the kind of guy that likes all of this, and wants more people to get into it so in the future he might live his fantasies with less judgement. Thus the 'hidden' phrases.

I still think that it's all way too "overcalculated" and confusing for both "rational" and "irrational" minds, hence does not work as a "usual" hypnosis (if it works at all). Both minds are free to deduce anything they want, just like from a noise of random words. Or "ink spots".

So… The consensus is that SB has a trap fetish.

More like this board is anti trans

I would say this board is against irreversible changes caused by manipulations. It may sound like fun for persons like SB or Reiko, but it's unhealthy.

>>38191

ur like .05 percent of the population

ur trans* propaganda is against the majority

even the far left marxist libkeks u were so happy to take up ur cause have turned on u

>>38194

It really doesn't matter what they think on this board. If they want straight files, but they insult the other team here then they miss out on files.

As for the trans thing. I can imagine just doctoring your own conversion can't be healthy. It's also not on topic on a hypno board.

I do not intend to join the ongoing battle here. I like people from both sides, it doesn't really matter to me : )

Just looking for any files you have :P

Her works just make me feel so good, so the more files there are out there, the better :)

>>38232

> so the more files there are out there, the better :)

Yeah, second that

I wonder. Would people have the same reaction if it was a beautiful woman trying to make them as submissive as possible?

>>38246

I wouldn't mind, really. And I would have emailed her ages ago. But it creeps me out to know that's actually a guy.

I wonder how effective anti-piracy suggestions are. If they are, indeed, planted in many of her files as she claims, is that why many people seem to have no success with her work?

>>38249

SB said (not explicitly, but, I think, it's implied) , that anti-piracy stuff is added to the latest files only. But even the suggestions from the old files shared on WMM leave me "cold". I did notice some arousal during the first listen, though. The subsequent listening does not have any effect at all. What makes me question the whole "CIA-style-hypnosis!"-hype. A huge disappointment, I must say…

Does anyone have like a filter list?

Less about saying what you like and more what you don't want to have anything to do with.

Like I'm into anal suggestion (and shemale/strapons) but I'm not into guys, or feminisation. Or that other guy that didn't like humiliation.

Trying to decide on which file to try next. Does anyone have experience with the following?

P Spot Heaven

Pink Thoughts

CEI Programming

Post the videos

Richard won't mind

neither would I

I "clicked through" the d4r3 file. There are more background voices now. Then I stumbled upon the suggestion to get hard by SB's command only. Nah… Not for me. F%$k off SB… I love my erections.

OTOH, s!ssy r(o)bber s|u7 is a fun file. You get locked in a machine, dressed in tight rubber, penetrated by two cocks while receiving a blow job until you orgasm (if you can). Then you are freed, dressed in rubber, and can either count to 5 to wake up or drift into sleep. On the first listen I did not notice any typical SB's tricks going in the background, except obey and relax.

>>38537

Maybe you can help me identify a similar file.

The hypnotist takes you down into a trance ith sensory deprivation, you are bound and bent over she puts headphones on you, and makes you watch a video. She describes what you are seeing in the video, a guy walks up to someone that is bound and bent over and begins to fuck them. Hypnotist keeps going and towards the end tells you that the video you watched was actually a live feed of what was happening to you. (the guy fking the person that was bound was you all along).

I know it sounds exactly the same, just wondering if there was another hypnotist that did something similar.

>>38551

Thats Kidnapped 2: Amnesia from MzD0m1n1ca

I'm curious. What do you guys find appealing on 54m4nth4 B4nd|3r's stuff?

All her files are TTS which means that you guys can do the same thing via software with the plus of having your own scripts. I mean, there are even free TTS websites. What puzzles me the most is that her files aren't free and there are a lot of them being shared, which means that somebody actually paid for them.

I really don't get it… Probably it's because I could be doing the same thing with a better delivery. Anyway, I would like to hear from you guys. Am I missing something here?

>>38555

>Am I missing something here?

One of the reasons for this thread ;)

The trick is in the scripts. It was claimed, that SB is using advanced NLP/hypno/CIA/whatever technique to make you do something, what you originally did not want.

Some people say, that SB's files are very arousing, others say, that they experience post-hypnotic suggestions, some say that the files do not work at all.

Just in case: r/ck5wk9yr

>>38556

Well, regarding the script stuff, I don't buy it. I previewed some of her files I didn't see anything above low-mid tier.

I actually know a lot about NLP and to be honest, first time I read her name, I thought she was related to Richard B4nd|3r, which happens to be one of the "founders" (maybe creators is a better term here) of NLP along with John Grinder. But she's not connected to him in any way. So it might have been a clever and at the same time cheap marketing move since the CIA thing makes sense because both Richard and John worked with the CIA in numerous occasions during the 70's. NLP if applied correctly can be very effective, Richard himself defeated a cancer using it, but the files I see that mention NLP don't actually do anything NLP related other then the anchor/trigger placement. And a good chunk of them are doing it in an ineffective way.

>>38555

I mean read the thread m8, it's effective for me and others. B4nd|3r's one of the few to get post-hypnotic suggestions to work for me and probably the only time I found myself physically acting on commands I wasn't conscious of during a file, too. The videos and "sensual overload" style of a lot of her files are great for people like me who are ADHD, too.

If you can do better, hook me up. For real. I've been doing hypnosis for a long time and she clicks with me better than anyone else so if you can outdo her, I'll pay up.

can anyone zip the following files and throw them in the vola 3 posts up please. Mega links are killing me.

A G00d 5p4nk1ng

M15tr355 54m4nth4 01

t45t3 0f h0n3y

4dd1ct3d 2 P4nt135

C4ught & Pun1sh3d 1/2/3

>>38553

hmm, I listened to kidnappd2, but no it wasnt the file i was looking for.

thanks for the suggestion

>>38561

> Mega links are killing me.

At least Mega is much faster than Vola

>>38559

>B4nd|3r's one of the few to get post-hypnotic suggestions to work for me and probably the only time I found myself physically acting on commands I wasn't conscious of during a file, too.

Wow… I thought it's pretty much impossible with SB's files (according to my experience with them).

>>38569

>Wow… I thought it's pretty much impossible with SB's files (according to my experience with them).

I have said it before in this and other threads but here we go again. Due to how SB sets up his / her files they will most definitely affect some but not all listeners.

In general isteners that will not be affected are anyone who misses nuances in conversations, or anyone who is already gay, or anyone who has a brain that works in ways that parcels information in chunks that are smaller or larger than the normal human brain chunking rates.

People who will be unusually susceptible even if they normally would not like the content on the other hand are people who are genuinely good at multi tasking (and not just think that they are), or anyone who has an overly strong imagination, or anyone who is overly concerned with performance anxiety.

All of that being said, it is possible to be affected by effects in SB files even if you normally belong to one of the three groups that should be immune, and vice versa find yourself unaffected by those effects even if you are someone who should be susceptible.

This is why I make the statement repeatedly that SB is the most dangerous hypnotist around since someone could potentially have their life screwed up even without it being their fantasy. But this is also why I make the statement repeatedly that other hypnotists are far more effective if you want to simply enjoy the experience. For stuff to be more effective in my opinion they have to work on everyone, and that just will never be SB's work since it is targetting a certain brain behavior that not everyone has.

>>38570

>This is why I make the statement repeatedly that SB is the most dangerous hypnotist around since someone could potentially have their life screwed up even without it being their fantasy. But this is also why I make the statement repeatedly that other hypnotists are far more effective if you want to simply enjoy the experience. For stuff to be more effective in my opinion they have to work on everyone, and that just will never be SB's work since it is targetting a certain brain behavior that not everyone has.

When you rephrased it like this, it suddenly snapped in place and became clear. Very plausible explanation. Thanks!

>>38570

Awesome explanation man, Thanks. SB is dangerous and listeners should thus be cautioned with her/his files.

>>38570

>People who will be unusually susceptible even if they normally would not like the content on the other hand are people who are genuinely good at multi tasking (and not just think that they are), or anyone who has an overly strong imagination, or anyone who is overly concerned with performance anxiety.

Just to make sure that I understand you correctly. Are you saying, that those, who belong to these three groups, are not affected by SB's files? Or is it the other way around?

I AM a multitasker (but I can't do more than 4 things simultaneously ;), and I'm quite immune to SB.

>>38574

>Just to make sure that I understand you correctly. Are you saying, that those, who belong to these three groups, are not affected by SB's files? Or is it the other way around?

>I AM a multitasker (but I can't do more than 4 things simultaneously ;), and I'm quite immune to SB.

In answer to your question, people who are true multi taskers usually are easily led by the types of technique used by SB. From sounds of it you just have the bad / good luck of achieving results outside the norm.

Assuming that you are a true multi tasker and not just thinking you are one then you factor outside of what should be the norm. Have you ever had cognition testing to see if you are a true multi tasker brain wise? A lot of people think they are multi tasking efficiently but their brain slows dramatically and loses details without realising it. If you are one of the true multi taskers then consider yourself priviledged. It is actually extremely rare to have a brain that organizes itself to handle four different tasks at once without losing function.

Today I listened for 2.5 files:

TTP-S1 - it should set the "go deep" trigger. But SB uses "deep down deep" in other files, so looks like this file is useless. OTOH, the simple suggestions and tests (finger snaps, eyes closed, eyes open) in this file work.

TG BDSM - you meet a girl Bobby, she introduces you to 54m4nth4. They bring you close to orgasm with their tongues, cuff you to the bed posts and make you beg for orgasm. In the mean time 54m4nth4 becomes Sam with a cock. The file is supposed to make you obey and submit to 54m4nth4, and to set a HFO trigger "Spurt!"

Other tricks used are almost similar texts in left and right channel. For example, right channel: "You listen to…" , left channel: "You obey to…", RC:"When you were a child", LC:"When you were a woman", etc.

What I like: pink sweater and black mini-skirt on 54m4nth4.

What I hate: sooooo loooong and booooring… Too complex and impossible descriptions on who is doing what, who is standing or sitting where, whom you are facing, etc. It breaks the mood, breaks the trance (actually, the trance was not good here at all) and leads to nothing but irritation.

Ultra Fem is about how to be a perfect woman. I did not have time for the whole file, but the first half suggests you to copy the women you find sexy. One of the background tracks mentions "pink colour" from time to time, but I did not get in what sense. Is it a trigger? A trigger for what?

So, nothing interesting so far.

Sent too early and without proof-reading :( But I hope you got the idea.

Looking for a guide on which file(s) to listen to early on to install triggers used in later files. Thanks in advance anon.

>>37100

>>38570

"People who will be unusually susceptible even if they normally would not like the content on the other hand are people who are genuinely good at multi tasking (and not just think that they are), or anyone who has an overly strong imagination, or anyone who is overly concerned with performance anxiety."

What makes a person with performance anxiety more susceptible to this type of hypnosis? I ask as someone who isn't all that imaginative or good at multitasking but has concerns regarding PA and has had some very surprising/unexpected results listening to SB

>>38636

>What makes a person with performance anxiety more susceptible to this type of hypnosis?

There are actually multiple things at work here.

First, due to the anxiety the brain is more subconsciously attentive to nuances in the file. This makes some of SB's techniques like splitting messages across two voice layers more likely to have an effect on you than someone else.

Second, the anxiety causes the brain to dwell on the contents which makes them have a larger impact for the same amount of "uptime". This means that even a single playthrough can have the same exposire for you as someone else who has listened to it for multiple days.

Third, the anxiety is causing stress for the brain, and the hypnotist gives a subconscious hope of relief and trust which causes the brain to become more accepting. This means that your brain is more likely to accept assurances that the changes are helpful.

Fourth, some of the techniques specifically used in the majority of SB's work target people with insecurities and use it to build bonds. Bonds which are then used to make the changes seem more acceptable or appealing.

Finally,people with anxiety issues are used to having nigling voices in their heads that second guess their decisions, future possibilities, and past memories. Thus when SB's files try to get you to hearing SB's layered voices as your own mental voice the intrusive behavior is more easily accepted.

In closing, you are substantially deeper at risk than if you did not have that unfortunate tendency. However, just because the risk is greater it does not equate to certainty of the file working. It does however mean that you should be more hesitant to get into the files in the first place. And that you should take more care when listening to them than you would otherwise.

Shut the fuck and post some files, no one gives a fuck about your opinions

>>38646

1. Do not be rude. This is unhealthy

2. This thread is not intended for file sharing. See the OP

3. Almost 5GB was shared in another thread

>>38646

oh wow look some discussion on this hypno fetish board, better call him a retard and request some files.

please leave newfriend

>>38650

>>38655

spotted the redditors

Just listened to Pink Thoughts. One of the most confusing files. Too many voices, too much is going on. As usual it's about submission and obeying to 54m4nth4, feminization and sissification. In the main tracks multiple orgasms and pink satin panties were mentioned. But there were some background suggestions I did not catch up. Something about 3 inches, "whenever …", "when you sit down…".

>>38629

>TTP-S1 - it should set the "go deep" trigger.

Oh, forgot to mention two odd things.

There was a passage about "you left arm is heavy, you cannot lift it". As always with SB, that did not work, but the right arm was not mentioned at all.

Then some kind of repetitive music started and played for several minutes. It was so strange and disconnected, that I even took the headphones off and checked if the music was coming from the "outside world". But no, it was recorded. Strange… Why? To hide something? If yes, it was hidden too well, and with no effect :D

>>38665

No idea why there's an image of my message above my message. 8ch is confusing.

>>38570

>People who will be unusually susceptible even if they normally would not like the content on the other hand are people who are genuinely good at multi tasking (and not just think that they are), or anyone who has an overly strong imagination, or anyone who is overly concerned with performance anxiety.

I gave it another thought, and my idea is that SB's stuff can work on people who cannot properly concentrate in one thing, whose thoughts are jumping from one subject to another like fleas, and who cannot control the train of thoughts at all.

SB creates a salad of phrases, that get randomly associated with each other by a non-controlled mind, then stuck as annoying ear-worms.

For such people, one single script line is impossible to concentrate upon, hence normal hypnosis is difficult to work with. But when you drop "triangles and circles", "multiple orgasms", "pink satin panties", "whenever…", "pink colour", "think about 54m4nth4" in one mix, such mind can generate something. Even a tulpa, or at least a servitor :D

That would explain why it does not work for ALL multitaskers. I think that I can more or less control my mind a bit, at least I'm aware of thoughts, most of the times I can get rid of them, if they are not needed, and I can concentrate of the necessary tasks.

If I don't know what the file is supposed to do, the content is confusing and vague, and the description is typical SB, how do I know that the file works?

Getting hard for 54m4nth4 - nothing about getting hard. Just serve, obey, and follow smart sexy 54m4nth4. BS…

Looks like Aneros loop and Porn loop got me. First of all I went quite deep, I felt contractions, arousal, and after the the listening I keep touching and squeezing my nipples - something I usually never do. First working SB files?

Did someone notice any actual changes from the "hidden" suggestions?

>>38817

posting this right now while sucking on a cock.

Idk i think i was always gay

>>38817

>Did someone notice any actual changes from the "hidden" suggestions?

Just one - tell all friends that SB is BS. Not sure if it was intended that way, though… But SB's suggestions are well hidden, and can be arbitrarily interpreted.

>>38817

Watching her videos on the regular unquestionably made me lust for cock

Also noticed some effects from some post-hypnotic suggestions but only some

>>39045

>Watching her videos on the regular unquestionably made me lust for cock

Are you sure it was the videos? And, BTW, which videos? From SB's youtube channel?

Just listened to 50 shades of 54m4nth4. The idea is a HFO while bound to the bed with leather straps. As always with SB's stuff nothing happened :(

>>39231

Listen to DARE for a couple of weeks then try again.

>>39234

Hello 54m4nth4

Many SB's files contain trigger "Spurt", not just DARE. But DARE is supposed to have negative side-effects.

>>39247

>But DARE is supposed to have negative side-effects.

What kind of side-effects?

>>39252

>What kind of side-effects?

Permanent limpness. Unless SB allows you.

And even if SB's stuff usually does not work, you never know…

>>39228

Yeah, ones from the YT channel

I mean, I can't draw you a roadmap directly fom the video to me lusting after dick but

>Listen to hypnosis/watch hypnosis vids for like 9 years

>Think cocks are gross, think crossdressing is gross, etc.

>Start watching 54m4nth4 vids

>After a few months start getting aroused at the though of sucking dick

And I have no interest in relationships with men, just dicks, really, so I'm pretty sure it's conditioning from associating such things with pleasurable experiences and not from some hidden homosexuality or anything

9 years change a lot. Hypno stuff should work MUCH sooner. That's another proof that SB=BS…

>>39257

Same with me, but not from SB. I crave cock and cum, yet 3 years ago I was disgusted by them.

Addicted2panties did nothing to me.

And Fem L00p and Pl3asur3 P3rformanc3 series, please!

Already posted my S4mb4n collection in another thread which is still active on the board.

>>39325

I WONT be uploading it to a volafile either, its an awful option with shit speeds.

>>39327

Is mega an option?

Vola is good for reasonably small files.

>>39341

Its in a mega, the link is just obscured int he way it was in the past.

I mean, Fem L00p and Pl3asur3 P3rformanc3 series are not in the mega archive.

>>39258

Listen brah I don't know what your hateboner for S4mB4n is about about but I think it's effecting your reading comprehension skills because I didn't say it took nine years to work, moron.

>>39487

>>Start watching 54m4nth4 vids

>>After a few months start getting aroused at the though of sucking dick

Yes, right, I misread the post. Apologies!

54m4nth4 B4nd|3r is just the pseudonym for a middle-aged failure hypno-therapist who was into erotic hypnosis himself. If you research a little bit, you can find his name and his, frankly hilarious, cover-up hypnosis business that is designed entirely like his 54m4nth4 53z one, except it only sells 3 files about hypnotizing you to work harder and shit.

I even found his really old posts on an obscure hypnosis forum where he just posts about listening to a bunch of different files, then tries making his own. It's basically a journal of the start of 54m4nth4 B4nd|3r for like two years.

>>39582

Interesting…. Any links?

>>39582

I was going to say that everyone already fucking knows that but

>>39589

I guess this guy didn't

It's not exactly something hidden, he uses his actual voice in some early files

the main weakness of 54m4nth4 B4nd|3r is lack of file descriptions

half of the battle in hypnosis is knowing what you're getting into, the descriptions help create cognitive bias and help the file to work

>>39582

You're way too uppity about this. It's not like the MsJ, Gr4c13 or B4mb1 TTS file creators were actually women either.

>>39594

>he uses his actual voice in some early files

A prime example is the file "Bend Over 1". The entire first half of the file is nothing but original male voice. Then in an instant the "54m4nth4" voice kicks in and is heard ever after, but saying the exact same things in the exact same way.

>>39597

Intentionally.

>>39597

Her files have descriptions so I dunno what you're on about

>>39617

>Her files have descriptions so I dunno what you're on about

But the descriptions do not correspond the content. Usually.

>>39594

>I guess this guy didn't

This guys does aware that SB is he. The question is where you got this info:

> failure hypno-therapist who was into erotic hypnosis himself.

> you can find his name and his cover-up hypnosis business

> an obscure hypnosis forum

The only thing I could find is that he lost his "High Tech Executive job" back in 2001.

>>39619

>This guys does aware that SB is he

Mixed two sentences :D

.. this guy does know …

.. this guy is aware …

>>39618

I feel like they do

Even if some don't they overwhelmingly do

Played with "Freeze Fem" today. You are supposed to feel like you are a beautiful dancing girl that freezes on SB's command. Posing and freezing worked in 60% of cases. Arousal - not quite. Ttriggers for freezing, unfreezing and transforming into a girl.

Not bad, actually. I can even recommend this file.

There are so many 54m4nth4 B4nd|3r files. Can anyone recommend a good place to start? Is there a flow chart or recommended path for her files?

>>39738

Personally I'd start with either Tr4nc3 Tr41n1ng 1 or 54manth4 53z, basic enough and both lead well into other things

I was really inpressed with the Tr4nc3 tr41n1ng series when I completed it all, just make sure you listen to each one several times before moving in

>>39619

>>39582

The forum isn't that obscure, but he hasn't posted in like 7 years. If you look up business reports you can find the owner of 54m4nth4 53z, and then just do some research about him, it's not even that hard to find.

>>39738

>There are so many 54m4nth4 B4nd|3r files. Can anyone recommend a good place to start? Is there a flow chart or recommended path for her files?

SB keeps deleting the old files, and I haven't seen any recommended paths so far. The triggers are scattered across all files, and from my experience all triggers, that are needed for particular sessions, are set in those sessions. So, I don't think that you MUST listen to specific files in advance, though it might help to achieve better results. As >>39780 said, the trance training files (TTP-Sx) might help. The Compliance series is about obeying 54m4nth4, so if you do not want to depend on her "approvals" to get erect or orgasm, you can skip them.

Is this thread dead?

Hearing about people experiences with these files is actually quite thrilling.

Please, tell more

Anons are busy downloading gigabytes of SB's files that were available on vola. But OTOH it looks like everyone is busy uploading and downloading hypnostuff, but nobody is listening to it :D

Is it bumpable?

>>39343

Kek

>https://mega.nz/#!D4mbWh0resP4yf0rMyStuff-Sam

>>40292

Most likely the creator same fagging and shilling in here

Is it bumpable?>>40782

>Most likely the creator same fagging and shilling in here

Possibly. What is your experience with SB?

any new links?

anyone got c31 pr0gr4mm1ng?

I was sooooo close of getting hfo with compliance 505. Closest i've ever been holy shit. Only got that close with C4r0l5 5uccu bu5 r3l3453. I will stop listening to them though because i want to have control of when i orgasm