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Changning and your thoughts about it 引きこもり 03/19/18 (Mon) 16:37:13 3bd16a No.4896

>mum and dad want me to become a normalfag

>talk with them one night, asking them if I can get help besides consoling and therapy- or change to a male therapist because nothing given to me is helping

>"Anon, there's no one out there that's going to help you. You have to do it yourself"

>yeah but muh traumas, the reality of how humans are horrid people

>"Well, just ignore it and change yourself"

I don't like forcing myself to change- I mean I don't like myself but still there's some parts of myself that I value (like the /pol/ knowledge I have, or how I'm not into 3dpd). It's stupid but it's true.

And I don't like to completely ignore the bad shit that happens in reality. I feel like there's strictly 3 types of people in this world and how they deal with the psychopathic nature of the world.

1- too stupid and naive, can't read the atmosphere and are happy

2- manipulative normalfags who know the bad shit happening and will use it to their advantage

3- hikkis who can't do that shit due to whatever they have/are and want to just be left alone

I don't know how to explain to my parents on how I see life.

But overall, am I in the wrong here? Do I need to just suck it up and change? Or is that change not going to happen?

Otherwise, talk about your thoughts on changing into a normalfag in general. I would like to know what other hikkis like me think about it.

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引きこもり 03/19/18 (Mon) 18:00:12 d64dd1 No.4898

>>4896

Change is inevitable. But you're self-aware, so you, and you alone, define yourself, which means you can reject the "heads I win, tails you lose" trap that most fall into and define your own change.

Adapt to the world in a way that loses none of that which is important to you. Face reality, but preserve your ideals.

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引きこもり 03/19/18 (Mon) 18:50:56 bcc1e0 No.4899

>>4896

>just change xD

The problem with that is many people who fall between the cracks of society and are raised by uncaring reptile parents cannot simply 'change' in one day, they can't just read a pile of self-help books and look at motivation posters of snarling wolves then go chat up with people at a coffee shop then magically become normal. Many hikkis or recluses are permanently stunted. Normalfags have had their whole childhoods to practice socialization and learn all the unwritten rules of society, they have been surrounded by caring people, nurtured, encouraged, had their self-esteem grow naturally and it all builds up. How is a hikki to catch up to all of that? It might be possible after years, but as has been said here before, the scars and signs will always be there. And it wasn't entirely organic, so there's still the weak core.

In our modern scaled up, overly complex society, most methods of organically growing as a person or socializing are gone past compulsary schooling or wageslaving. Picking up a hobby, maybe, but good luck finding local stuff. Town squares, public places, close-knit communities are mostly gone now thanks to globalization and multicult, so the closest we can get are places like this.

Considering the massive disadvantages people like us have, and the lack of social support networks, 'normalcy' is hard to reach and harder to maintain. The question is, is achieving 'normalcy' in such a consumerist scaled-up impersonal society worth it? Up to you op, I don't know if your parents are loving and caring or if they are reptiles (you're lucky to not be a victim of a single mom it appears), but judging from them spouting empty 'just do it' platitudes it seems they are rather disconnected and your goal should be finding somewhere to live on your own.

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引きこもり 03/19/18 (Mon) 19:42:34 bcc1e0 No.4901

>>4899

To add to this

The average hikki's situation reminds me a lot of an experiment I read about where some monkeys were taken away from their parents and raised in isolation. When they were introduced to others, the normalfag monkeys could instinctively tell that the isolated one was stunted, and bullied and tormented them, and their outcast status was cemented. Also the study of rats kept in enriched environments with toys and other rats to play with from the start vs rats kept in a shitty deprived cage with no one else around.

Normals who boast about 'pulling themselves up from their bootstraps' or changing, don't realize how much they depend on other humans for a support network, much like how a fish does not realize it's breathing water. The best a hikki can do, if they were to suddenly have a burst of motivation out of the blue, would be to become an independent true hermit, as we have already fallen off the normalcy wagon and have to find our own path – something that would make the average modern hypersocialized man fall apart.

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引きこもり 03/19/18 (Mon) 22:29:25 21a830 No.4906

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>>4899

>>4901

This is some of the most real talk i've seen on here so far you are absolutely right anon and even if a hikki does get back out there in the world the problem itself usually isn't completely fixed we are like a wrinkled piece of paper you can unwrinkle it but there will still be damage to the paper left over from before and because the damage definitely shows and normalfags notice and comment on how strange weird odd looking or fucked up we are that just makes us want to return to our old way of life because we try to put ourselves back out there in the world and yet we still get treated like shit when we try which possess me off tbh.

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引きこもり 03/20/18 (Tue) 12:20:10 921767 No.4915

>>4899

> Normalfags have had their whole childhoods to practice socialization and learn all the unwritten rules of society

a thousand times this, people tend to not recognize how absolutely vital the early years of a person's life are in terms of social interaction and acceptance. A hikki who tries to reintegrate is always going to be playing catchup, socially and economically and will most likely fail since people do pick up on the "socially deprived" and ostracize them or make their lives more difficult regardless of age

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引きこもり 03/21/18 (Wed) 00:55:08 21a830 No.4923

>>4915

>people tend to not recognize how absolutely vital the early years of a person's life are in terms of social interaction and acceptance. A hikki who tries to reintegrate is always going to be playing catchup, socially and economically and will most likely fail since people do pick up on the "socially deprived" and ostracize them or make their lives more difficult regardless of age

This is very true.

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引きこもり 03/22/18 (Thu) 22:03:52 228842 No.4941

>>4896

holy shit you just described the 5-percenter worldview:

1 would be the 85% of people (the ignorant masses)

2 would be the 10% of people who are evil (politicians, managers, business execs)

3 would be the remaining 5%, enlightened but powerless (hikkis or your general imageboard fag)

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引きこもり 03/23/18 (Fri) 00:13:01 a09d9e No.4945

>>4941

This

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