/girltalk/ - Girl Talk

I like tomboys, what else is there to say. The question, in my case, is if they'd like me. Are you trying to ask what's wrong with them?

I actually met a really cool tomboy at work but I don't have the balls to ask her if she wanted to go out for a drink or anything. She loves coaching people, she plays sports. One time she outright stated "I really fucking hate niggers" when we were alone and in response I went on some spaghetti spilling rant about how stupid some people are when it comes to interactions with the police. I don't really hate niggers, I just hate stupid people.

That's not to say she was some uncaring person. We'd constantly make fun of how deep down she really cares and she'd blush. It's basically a tough exterior.

I shit you not, this actually happened. Fuck I want to kill myself. I blew it, fam. Not that I realistically had a chance.

>>12244

Wew lad you really did fuck up.

I've gotten lucky with a tomboy recently.

They are usually very chill and fun to be around, like they don't depend on others to have a good time.

>>12245

I know.

But realistically it was a workplace. I should've at least asked for her number, I didn't think about it. She loves the normiebook.

I stand for people liking what they like.

As long as that tomboy does stuff because she likes it, and not because guys do it, then she's OK. I mean look at me, I play Yugioh and yet I don't give a fuck what guys think (most serious yugioh players are fat, ugly, egocentristic for some reason and smell like sweaty armpit. Either that or they are black)

>>12253

Unrelated question, do you happen to be a narcissist?

tomboys are fine to an extent. They can like soccer and football all they want. It's when they don't shave their legs and only wear gross 3 day old sweatshirts that I care. A lot of girls don't get the difference between "tomboy" and "gross"

>>12253

>most serious yugioh players are fat, ugly, egocentristic for some reason and smell like sweaty armpit.

That sounds like it sucks, why not just play it online or something? Fuck there are a few good yugioh GBA games your could emulate.

>or they are black

ewwww

>>12263

I hate myself. How could I be a narcissist if I hate myself?

>>12267

I play online only. Yugioh cards are far too expensive and not worth it.

>>12331

I hate myself.

Don't do that, you're the only person you truly own.

>How could I be a narcissist if I hate myself?

Good enough. I was getting some vibes but i guess they come from your wish to have others like you.

I am strongly attracted to short-haired athletic females. Unfortunately I'm usually too afraid to find out that they're lesbians to make a move on them. Goddamnit I hate this paradox.

>>12424

Do you want to like yourself more?

>>12343

I know what you mean. Women who grew up with too much male influence get gaslit into believe they're a boy trapped in a woman's body.

>>12238

I like the idea of them, girls with some masculine tendencies that share similar interests. But as some other posters said, it can make them lean towards SJW territory.

I wouldn't say I'm a tomboy; I'm just suicidal and introverted. I quite like traditionally feminine things.

Anyhow, tomboys are sexy and I get turned on by them very easily. Even the ones who would just look like chavs or something if they were men. Get a girl in some gym shorts, a hoodie, and a snapback, and I'm suddenly a lesbian. They don't even have to be incredible looking. I really don't get it.

>>12554

>too

two* i need to stop drinking and go to bed.

>>12554

>Implying girly things are interesting in the slightest

I swear, if my daughter won't like velociraptors I'll think there's something wrong with her.

>>12343

This right here, my niece has 3 brothers and 4 uncles with no sisters or aunts and her mother herself is a tomboy. Everyone in my family is retarded and while she seems like a smart person I fear something will go wrong once she is a teenager specially considering her father is a light skinned nigger

>>12574

>cucking your family tree

>>12581

Cucking?

But they aren't cheating anyone with another couple there.

Rolled 2, 7, 6, 10, 1, 13, 11, 11, 13, 11 + 6 = 91 (10d15)

>>12248

>She loves the normiebook

>using BOTNETbook in 2017

well, then you can sleep well again.

>>12561

be my future ex-wife tbh

>>12571

>Virtual pets will always be something inherently girly by nature.

f-fuck off neopets was manly as h*ck

>>18011

>who want to give hormones to 13 year old kids

Just wanted to mention they are now advocating for hormone treatment of 3 year olds. Toddlers are officially (at least in my country) able to verbally signal their gender and it could be labelled potential abuse if you ignore the child's self-identification. I have thought some pretty outlandish things in my kid years and the notion that a child can be viewed as completely self-aware would be laughable if it were not so dangerous.

I've met many tomboys, but I've never met one who wasn't desperate to express their femininity deep down. They either feel insecure displaying it because they don't think they're pretty enough to pull it off, they feel wrong doing it because they've become so used to the tomboy persona they've created for themselves that they don't feel they're allowed to change, or they've rejected their femininity because they view it as a weakness and are ashamed of it. It can be hard to crack the tomboy shell, but once you do they take to their femininity more than any other. They also tend to be naturally pretty and have nice skin because they haven't been abusing makeup for years, in my experience.

>>18011

>I am one

Yes.

>implying a sweatshirt is dirty after 3 days

YES

>I actually had a phase where I thought I was a boy

NO.

Goddammit. Why are they trying to always take out the tomboys with this shit? How deep into it did you get?

>>18036

Absolutely no permanent changes and I figured myself out after about 3 years, starting at age 11. Didnt do anything but feel depressed and talk online

>>18060

Really? You didn't take even one shot? You talked on the internet about your sex at age eleven? I mean, it's good you got talked out of it, but on /pol/, no less?

>>18072

Oh, /pol/ came a little later

I was frequenting halfchan semi regularly at age 8, /b/ no less. I have always been a precocious child.

>>18072

And yes, I never saw a doc or took anything to alter my body

>>18076

>>18077

Jesus. You made sure to never let anyone there know an eight-year-old was posting among them. Right? Very good that you made sure you never got so much as a prick.

>>18090

Of course not, I didnt want to get banned

I rarely posted at that age, mostly I just checked out the more interesting threads/rekt threads

>>12238

They're like irl shitposters, in my experience they are either really fun or really annoying to be around, I wouldn't date one in any case. I don't see girls with typically-male hobbies as a tomboys though.

>>18095

It's not just you being underageb&, that's the problem. It's the part where admitting it to anyone that isn't a rulefag is going to be admitting it to a pedo.

If it wasn't then, at what age did you start posting about your sexual issues?

>>18102

13

>>18133

Jesus. That's still too damn young, for telling anons about your socket. I'm sure they set you on the right path, considering what you're telling me, but it's still a bit much. What do you think of what >>18027 posted?

>>18027

>>18136

It's semi-true

When someone is tomboyish from the moment that they could possibly be called a tomboy, it has nothing to do with any self esteem issues they might have or social pressures. Some women are naturally more masculine in behavior than others, and it has to do with what they value.

However, tomboys still are female, so of course they have feminine interests still and some feminine leanings - and once their image of being a tomboy has become a social thing and reinforced, then you get what that anon described where their behaviors are a mix of their natural tomboy instincts AND personal fear about trying to be girly after so long.

Once I hit the age where I became a truly social creature I did go overly hard into the tomboy stuff ("pink sucks!"). Now, Im way more comfortable with everything that I like. I like pink and flowers, but everyone I know would still describe be as extremely masculine - my boyfriend has commented that I speak to men the way men speak to men.

I think that this is because there's the true underlying nature of tomboys that is what makes them tomboys in the first place, and then theres the surface 'tomboy aesthetic' which actually is unconnected to the tomboy mental status.

>>18165

What's the earliest memory you have of knowing these values, and this nature? What effects does acting like a dude have on dudes you talk to?

>>18169

Well we better define some of these values - a tomboy is what she is because she values things that men usually tend to value, as opposed to valuing the things women usually tend to value. I think that this stems from who the young child chooses to emulate/thinks they should be like. All human beings in their early development meet different 'characters' and who they become depends on who they think they should emulate.

It's the difference between the little girl who wants to wear shorts because theyre comfortable and easy to wear, and the little girl who (without external pressure to be this way) wants to wear a pretty dress because she wants to be pretty like mommy and other adult women.

I dont have extensive memories of when I was very young, but the youngest back I can go (4) Im aware that I cared about being 'cool' and 'tough', that I genuinely did not understand why people would choose things that were less useful or comfortable just for their looks, and I also wanted to be a brave warrior/strong predator animal. I put dresses on toy alligators.

>>18169

As for the effect it has interacting with men:

All of my friends are men, and online ones at that. There aren't any women that I've met that I can get along with, family being the exception. I cant really compare the experience of interacting with men as not a tomboy vs being a tomboy, I only have the one, but I think something different for me than a lot of other women is the extreme casual nature of the interactions. Theyre more relaxed around me and I around them, there isnt as wide of a divide between us, they feel less pressure to impress, and I dont have any sense of myself as female and them as male - I dont feel our sex difference in our interactions. I think this is because my default mode of social interaction is to cast myself in a male light, in my own self perception.

>>18173

>>18174

So you were raised in a manner of strength being a requirement? Some kind of harsh upbringing? I suppose that'd explain most tomboys, either that, or they just really liked their dad.

That's definitely a net negative, with it giving you more of a platonic relationship with men (you know what they say about that), and an even less friendly one to your own sex. I'm not sure if that's more your fault, or just the mindset.

>>18188

I guess you could say that, but this was my personality long before my life became hard enough it would result in that. Plenty of women also were raised in rough times and are stronger people, but arent tomboys.

Its specifically about your outward valuations. A woman raised in a rough childhood will be more emotionally steady, she will handle crisis better - but she wont have made herself that way intentionally or even be conscious of it a lot of the time.

I actually dont consider it a negative at all. Since my personality is more 'masculine' I clearly prefer more masculine behavior patterns and what not. From my perspective, being able to hang out with the average woman doesnt sound appealing, but hanging out with Joe Shmoe sounds pretty alright. I wish my relationship with men could be more platonic than it is - just because we can hang out in a chill way far more often than is normal doesnt mean that suddenly my friend turns into the guy who is overly interested in me and I feel bad about telling him no. Its not as if it was a barrier at all to me finding Mr. Right

>>18193

Then what do you suppose stirred this thought process of form over function for you? There must have been some element that influenced you, as far back as you remember. >>18193

>its not as if it was a barrier at all to me finding Mr. Right

No. If anything, it's a draw for mates. I think every fellow would like a woman they could understand, this day and age. Honestly, you shouldn't let your prime years fly you by, but instead legitimately consider them, even if they show no interest. Parenthood is best done early than too late.

>>18196

I think it's really something at least partly grounded in genetics, it's part of the difference between men and women and certainly much of that is inherent - our necessary dimorphism as social animals. Natural preferences/modes of thinking lead to a different experience of the environment which reinforces certain things…etc etc

And yea I know, the reason I said that is because Ive already found him. It's LDR at the moment, but in a year it wont be. We'll take a year or so to enjoy being together as us, but we both really want a large family.

>>18197

>I think it's really something at least partly grounded in genetics

I'm pretty sure it's not anything even remotely close to that. This isn't some kind of medical disorder. It's obviously some kind of mental issue that causes this mode of thinking, and as with most its definitely something influenced through one's childhood. Either you think it started earlier than it really did, or you simply haven't mentioned what could be the influence to this way of thinking.

>LDR

That's not good. There is way too much room for disaster, in that kind of scenario. Be careful.

>>18200

Chill out, it is perfectly fine. We could not possibly love each other more or be more sure of our relationship.

>mental issue

>disorder

I dont think that its a negative thing at all, anon.

If something starts so early as it I know it did for me, without specific pressure for it to, then it is more reasonable to assume it is inherent.

I feel like your need for an outside cause is due to you unnecessarily seeing it as something that needs fixing or removing.

>>18201

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2002/11/021112075626.htm

Here, an article

I don't find tomboys attractive I prefer women act girly & feminine sorry but I'm cool with being friends with them.

I find tomboys fun to be around since they're easier to trust; they are able to relate with boys, willing to speak their minds more than regular girls, and they don't wear deceptive makeups.

I had fallen for one in grade school, plus on top of all the good parts I mentioned, she is also friendly and never fails to smile. Unfortunately, due to this I think she has caused me to set a rather high standard for girls.

>>18445

Most tomboys are feminine, I think you're thinking of bulldykes.

>>12238

A lactating titcow tomboy gf is my greatest fantasy

Seriously, tomboys are best because they actually have personalities