No.11168 [Last50 Posts]
What do you all think about guys who are submissive in bed? Like say he's an alpha Chad Thundercock who makes your pussy sopping wet, but when you get in bed he wants to lick your toes and call you goddess while you treat him like a dog or some shit. I always thought that kind of thing would be a huge deal breaker for basically everyone, but apparently people like that manage to have at least decently functional relationships. Even the ones who aren't rich.
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No.11174
>>11168
of course some people like it
and if their relationship is happy I don't care
although in my experience submissive men can get really weird
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No.11178
>>11174
Well yeah that's what I was getting at, I'm not saying "haha let's laugh at weirdos," I'm asking what would YOU personally do if YOU went home with The Chad Thundercock and it turned out that, unbeknownst to all of his friends, family, past lovers, and most importantly, YOU, he was into that kind of shit.
>submissive men can get really weird
If you have any specific stories do share.
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No.11183
>>11178
I'd be okay with it, I like some dominant sex every now and then
>If you have any specific stories do share.
mostly just getting weird requests for kinky shit out of the blue
always middle aged guys for some reason
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No.11193
>>11168
Any relationship built on strange fetishism will collapse like a house on a fault line.
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No.11195
>>11193
I don't think that's really the premise. I think he's just asking "if you had this great dude who hit all the right buttons, would it matter if he was into kinky shit?"
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No.11200
I love it. Just as long as he keeps his submissiviness for me and me only.
I like guys who are confident and strong, but who are weak agaisnt me because, in the house and in a relationship, I like to be the one who has a say.
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No.11245
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No.11257
Every time this subject comes up all I see is retards who don't understand what dom/sub actually is, and why it doesn't automatically entail fetishism.
At least >>11200 understood the real question behind OP's dumb post. Most assertive women (i.e. non-lurkers) are going to favor it anyways.
Like she said, submissive exclusively in the relationship.
But of course, that requires nuance, and most men on 8chan don't have that.
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No.11258
I'm a mostly submissive switch and my bf is as well, so we kinda split up the responsibilities of being the Dom(me). In my case, we both get what we want, so it isn't really an issue. If I had to do it all the time, I'm not so confident that I wouldn't need another outlet.
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No.11259
>>11257
Sometimes "no" means "yes".
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No.11261
>>11200
These kind of "men" miss their mommy too much.
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No.11263
>>11261
Good going because I can be their mommy.
Wink wink nudge nudge, get it.
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No.11264
>>11263
I don't know if you're joking, but literally this.
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No.11270
>>11261
>>11263
You know, the last girl I met that had the same mind set about this ended up raping her bf, he commited suicide some months after.
So yeah, maybe you should take a look at yourself before larping as his "mommy"
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No.11271
>>11270
>inb4 men can't be raped
>inb4 he wanted it
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No.11272
>>11270
>placing undue weight on experiences of close peers which are most certainly not typical and implying that anon is a rapist of submissive males
At least we're hopefully past the stage in the thread where retards don't know what dom/sub is.
>>11261
Not everything boils down to mommy issues, Freud.
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No.11291
>>11272
Not just mommy issues. Most of the problems we develop can probably be traced back to family matters. Why else would "good girls" run off with some high school reject, despite having the knowledge of their parents' disapproval. Of course they're probably just jilling off to the idea once in a while, but still.
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No.11301
>>11270
Jeez calm down. I am not a sex offender you dummy.
I can't even do the shuffle and shit.
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No.11317
I'm a switch so I wouldn't care, really.
It's just weird when you're in a really submissive mood and so or they, or vice versa.
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No.11330
>>11271
they can't
a man getting raped by a woman automatically forfeits his manhood
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No.11341
>>11330
So a man raped by a woman isn't a man? Then what is he? A boy, an animal?
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No.11342
>>11257
That's because you're mistaking demonstrating trust through exposing vulnerability, with submission.
Submission inherently entails viewing someone as Superior to oneself. So you can be open with a woman, and "let your guard down" while at the same time not being submissive.
An example being if you trust her to not flip out at you, over trivial shit, so you call a suggestion of her's retarded.
Submission is like what OP described. "Boot licking" essentially.
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No.11346
>>11301
Sure, if you say so. It's a bit weird that I heard three girls say the same thing, and all three were into fucked up shit and ended up destroying some of my colleague's lives. But if you think you are fine, then I guess there is no problem, I hope.
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No.11372
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No.11373
>>11257
The fuck is that sideways 'L' suppose to be? If it was '!' instead it would "make sense".
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No.11375
>>11342
>submission is like what OP described
>"Boot licking" essentially
You have no fucking idea what you are talking about, straight up. Presumably, you enjoy submissive women. Most submissive women are not going to get on their knees, lick your feet, and call you a god. Most submissive women are not going to be into straight up BDSM, sleep sacks or whatever they call that weird ass sleeping bag, and all.
Neither are most submissive men.
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No.11376
>>11375
You underestimate the subconscious vulgarity that resides within every man and woman.
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No.11377
>>11373
It's the negation symbol in logic.
(consent && ¬constent) == 1
If you don't get it it's not your kind of joke.
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No.11379
>>11346
>>11270
Reddit spacers are rapists tbh. My friend was raped by a redditor who spaced their posts just like that.
I'm sure you'll reply
"I am not a sex offender
neckbear
who unnecessarily hits return on EVERY sentence."
But it's a bit weird that I've had to hear the same explanation from many people. Not saying you're a rapist, I'm just saying you're a rapist.
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No.11391
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>11168
There's an indie song about this
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No.11395
>>11377
>It's the negation symbol in logic.
In which universe, m8? The negation symbol is '!' in mine.
Baka.
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No.11403
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No.11449
>Like say he's an alpha Chad Thundercock who makes your pussy sopping wet, but when you get in bed he wants to lick your toes and call you goddess while you treat him like a dog or some shit.
What about the opposite?
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No.11450
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No.11505
>>11301
Its easy you just put one foot in front of the other and before you know it you're running from the police.
>>11257
But what good is a guy if he doesn't take you out and order that dish you really wanted to order but were too shy to ask for you? Or one who doesn't slap you on the butt and tease you until you feel wanted? A guy should generally know what he wants and play accordingly so they can give the girl what she wants or take hormones and exercise to become a cute boytoy for other guys who do
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No.11543
Eh sometimes I'm submissive and sometimes not. Just depends on the mood. If I'm tired or feeling lazy I'll play the part of not wanting it when she mounts me and how I don't want to cum. My lady really gets off to the idea of making me cum against my will and gives my dick a proper ride.
Other times I just enjoy being in the dominant role so I'll man handle her, slap her ass, bite her tits and so on. She'll never admit it but she enjoys it quite a bit. Otherwise she'd utilize the safe word. Occasionally we'll exchange roles during sex where I'll start off dominant and then she'll dominate me at the end or she'll get at me first and then I'll flip her around and get her.
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No.11544
>>11543
Ever tried both dom?
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No.11545
>>11544
Seems like it would cancel each other out and you'd just be having vanilla sex. i.e. two consenting individuals actively fucking one another with no hierarchy in the exchange. We both have to be pretty horny for that.
It's a lot easier for someone to play the "innocent" part and the other to be actively fucking them. Even if it's all a charade it's still better than vanilla. Honestly I feel bad for the men of this generation. No one wants to be labeled a rapist so you can't really strong arm a woman you're not familiar with since you don't want her screaming rape after the fact.
I've had girls that rode my dick for an hour and then after the fact insisted I raped them jokingly. That's not a funny joke for a man to hear. That's a good way to get sorted into the psycho bitch folder of my sex catalog.
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No.11547
>>11545
>That's not a funny joke for a man to hear.
It's a pretty funny joke tbh.
It's not a funny joke if they're a sociopath or destructive borderline. Because that means the funny joke will be dragging you into a court of law, when you don't do things exactly the way they wanted it, or they'll just tell all of the social circle. Hell hath no venegence and all that.
Borderlines (capable of empathy to some degree) are pretty obvious and mostly female, it's the sociopaths, who are like a person behind a two-way mirror, that take a while to figure out.
Probably unnecessary if you were talking about one night stands. What's life without the risk in that case. I'd be more worried about the clap.
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No.11550
>>11547
I'll find it more funny when women who make false rape accusations face real jail time and find out what rape really is when some fat nigress bulldykes shove a broomhandle up their twat.
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No.11554
>>11403
Strange Anonfama, looks like some sort of heebrew character.
Pic related is the only proper way to negate.
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No.11566
>>11200
>>>/gfd/
I don't really post there, but I lurked for a while, the subject being a real draw for me. Your mix of possessiveness and protectionism is really attractive.
>>11261
>>11263
My personal experience was that I don't miss my mother, it's that I was the person my mother would confide in as a child, about my abusive father. I love my mom, but I really don't want to fuck or be close to her. I really would like a beautifully souled matriarch/mother figure who would love our children more than life itself so that I might see the happiness and stability I didn't have in the faces of my children. Only a woman could provide that for me, but it's looking like I'm too traumatized to have healthy relationships at this point; it's kind of sad. I lunironically get triggered remembering experiences I've had that make me sperg out during random intimate moments. Oh well.
>>11270
I've been molested by predatory women before. It was traumatic as fuck. I internalized it by telling myself "It's impossible that they'd want to hurt me. I must be mistaken. They didn't mean it." If in both cases they hadn't just run off afterward I would have been fine.
>>11330
Emotional awareness and life experience of a lemming tbqhwy.
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No.11567
>>11547
Could have been a not-so-thinly veiled threat.
> Ha ha Christ you raped me. Ha ha- I mean you fucked me so hard I could argue the minor vaginal tearing you caused was because of rape- ha ha
Or slang/exaggeration synonymous with rough sex.
I mean, what you say in the moment to make it more enjoyable is one thing, but outside of that ladies- use literally any other descriptive to tell us how we rocked your world.
On the other hand, if you cum inside a girl- and feel it was a lot of semen- I guess in theory some girls might find it hot if you said "I got you pregnant" after. Others would be mortified at the possibility since even pills are 99%
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No.11576
>>11566
gentle femdom is such a dull meme
like you want a slightly dominant partner
how avant-garde
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No.11577
>>11567
>how we rocked your world
The joke in this case being that it was the opposite, since they rode his dick for an hour. That's a pretty good joke. Of course, my explanation being that it's only if they're fucking crazy that it's a terrifying prospect to hear those words. Of course, you never really know. I'd laugh at the joke anyways, sounds like waifu material if they recognize the absurdity.
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No.11579
>>11576
tbh I think the ultimate conclusion to every one of these conversations is "switch is the golden mean."
But some people are very insistent on their preferences, some people are masochists. and some people just want to get pissed on. To each their own.
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No.11586
>>11576
>>11579
Finding softcore porn of it is actually pretty difficult, though you might not think so. That's a lot of what it originally was for. Looking there now and seeing how much strap-on stuff there is, is actually pretty disgusting to me. My tastes are much duller than even that. Oh well.
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No.11589
>>11586
Porn is meant to be an act taken to the extreme most of the time. Vanilla just doesn't sell as well as the raunchier shit I guess. Honestly kinda concerning.
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No.11594
>>11589
But Star-Anon, nowadays vanilla IS the most extreme and raunchy. And the rarest thing to find, too.
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No.11599
>>11586
This is why I like muh 2d, it can be cute/suggestive or as depraved as you like. I find 3d porn to be offputting most of the time tbh.
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No.11609
>>11577
I think it's the desire for a woman to have the faux innocence. Not all women are like this to be sure but a good number want to maintain the illusion that they're not complicit in sex and that the only reason that they had sex was because the guy wanted them to fuck him. In their mind they rationalize that "I'm not a whore, he forced himself on me" despite them being complicit during sex and not actively fighting back or telling their partner to stop.
I'll concede that men do pressure women into sex but at the end of the day it's still just pressure. In all the of the times I "raped" a partner she would pull me back into her when I complied with her "no" and tried to exit. On the flip side if I pull her on top of me for a ride she's the one in charge. Short of spanking her ass or squeezing her tits she's the one in control.
This can't be every woman I'm sure but the cognitive dissonance that would allow such conclusions to form really astound me.
I'm curious for the femanons here. How important is the perception of "innocence" for you? For you to think that the guy doesn't think that you're a dirty bird?
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No.11615
>>11594
Well yeah, I guess so. Luckily one woman has stepped in to fill that void.
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No.11616
>>11566
Sorry to hear that, dude, I hope you get better soon.
>>11609
That is actually a pretty good "analysis", most women don't seem to accept their own sexual desire very well, so because of that they will say that generally their partner is the one that wants sex.
And I'm with you, I also wanna know how important is this whole "innocence" for the girls around here, I mean it's obviously just Irl Larp, but it would be interesting to know about the mindset that women tent to have about this.
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No.11632
>>11609
>the perception of innocence
I see what you're getting at but that still doesn't change the fact that you have to be incapable of empathy to use what was pretty plainly consensual dealings against another, when they basically dominated you for an hour, and made a joke about rape.
You're talking more generally, and it pretty much changes the topic. Consent is a difficult subject anyways because it can get heated.
But if we're talking about pretty plain consent, and they have a perception of innocence, then it's pretty clear that something's not right with them if they use it against you.
Of course, there's always what's perceived versus intentions i.e. percieved pressure.
Then you'd need to ask youself this question: are we still talking about submissive men?
>>11566
>>>>/gfd/
I'm fucking dying. Pic related.
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No.11639
>>11594
>society becomes so degenerate
>that the only way left to rebel is to have vanilla sex and be a decent person
Really makes you think.
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No.11640
>>11599
>I find 3d porn to be off-putting
No shit, it's dominated by sluts and chads.
What were you expecting?
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No.11642
>>11632
>that image
Rule 34 never fails to amuse me.
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No.11660
>>11609
This tbbh.
>>11632
SFW board, you twat.
>>11639
I just want porn aimed at females. All of the porn is with male PoV, even hentai.
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No.11661
>>11660
Does it matter what fandom said porn is attached to?
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No.11662
>>11661
Reminder that Stars VS Forces of Evil became trash when the writers went full with the idea of "hurrr durr Star likes Marco".
I used to like it at first, but then it jumped the shark to appease the fans.
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No.11664
>>11662
May not be that way for long if the preview with Tom is any indication. Plus, the new trailer for this season looks like it's gonna go back to wacky magic hijinks and some serious conflict.
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No.11668
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No.11672
>>11664
I wouldn't count on it, fam.
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No.11675
>>11672
What about Eclipsa then? Surely she won't take a backseat to the shipping.
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No.11681
>>11660
>SFW board, you twat.
I forgot to spoiler, sorry.
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No.11988
Wait you guys don't lick girls toes?
They taste good though?
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No.12027
>>11988
Reminder women can get fungi and have smelly feet too.
Some even have hair there. Disgusting.
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No.12033
>>12027
I only lick my girl's feet after they come out of a foot bath before they've touched the floor. Floors are nasty. I'd lick my girl's asshole before I lick her feet after they touch our floor.
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No.12034
>>12033
My husband licks my boyfriend's cum out of my pussy
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No.12043
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No.12047
>>12033
>>12034
I am stomach-sick atm and not even this is as gross as these posts.
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No.12149
>>11270
>Being raped by a lass.
Top cuck lad.
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No.12154
>>12149
Well there's consensual rape and actual rape. I'm certain all the rape I've engaged in was consensual. That meaning that all the "no"s were actually "yes"s and so on.
As far as girls raping me I've had them be in a sexually dominant position but I've never felt like they were abusing me. At any point where I was in a submissive position it wasn't because I couldn't fight their advances but rather I allowed them to dominate me. I've never been with a black chick though. Supposedly they will literally rape you. I don't have first hand experience yet.
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No.12177
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No.12179
>>11391
It's too bad nobody listened to this
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No.12186
>>12154
>consensual rape
I am pretty sure that's not how it works. Don't quote me on that tho.
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No.12208
>>12177
I like the sound of that oxymoron. See also extreme moderation and nonviolent mugging.
>>12186
I was just making sure everyone was reading my posts. When I say consensual rape I'm obviously not talking about rape but rather one party in a sexual exchange that plays the part of the "unwilling" participant of sex. You would of course assume established safe words and some degree of understanding between both parties of what actually was taking place (not rape).
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No.12216
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No.12282
>>12177
I think he's referring to like a BDSM roleplay or something.
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No.12296
>>11168
I have been gaining fetishes more fucked up each time, getting more serious about said fetishes and increasingly denying normal shit since I was a little boy. I'm now into spit, traps, eating shit, strap-ons, farts, feet, face-sitting, nazi girls, sweat, all while being submissive + hentai.
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No.12300
>>12296
It's time to stop.
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No.12301
>>12296
Wew how do people let things get so bad? Its like a fat person who never stops and say "hmm maybe I should eat better", or a smoker who reaches 1 pack a day, or a guy who faps to traps and shit.
Its time to fap less, Anon.
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No.12323
>>12282
Bypassing a weak "no" is vanilla sex. In my book I don't get into BDSM territory until ropes, whips, and gags are involved. At most it would be some soft BD not SM.
>>12296
>eating shit
come on anon. Licking taint is one thing but don't eat shit. Especially human shit which is processed foods further processed by someone's digestive tract. You're literally eating the shittiest shit possible.
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No.12329
>>12296
When porn takes over your lif.
THIS is degeneracy, people.
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No.12399
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No.15354
>>11193
this. any females that see this must heed the warnings
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No.18069
>>11168
I could not respect my boyfriend if he acted like that. I LOVE how my boyfriend treats me sexually, how he is perfectly capable and wants to be domineering and fucking masculine. Its so hot, his ease of control.
Though, he also finds it incredibly hot when I get aggressive and more controlling, though even at these times he is never a push over, there is always the sense that I am just allowed to do these things. If I ever felt that he was truly submitting, Id be instantly turned off and my view of him would be forever altered, even if only slightly.
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No.18232
>>11200
It doesn't affect you one bit if I'm submissive with others. Don't be salty.
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No.18371
>>11376
>the subconscious vulgarity that resides within every man and woman.
fake news, freud
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No.18394
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No.18910
>>11168
Ok i've been looking for a thread to talk about this and i've found none so i'll just ask here for an advice.
I've been into girls since ever.
But im a trap.
Long hair, cute 4.5inch penis, i use makeup, sometimes lesbians or dudes come hit on me mistaking me for a chick, etc.
But now i found a girl that i like, and she isn't a crazy whore whose into kinky shit like most woman i dated. She really sweet. We're dating now.
I like when woman look at my feminized body and tell me that im pretty, when they hit me, when they dominate me, when they do prostate milking while i masturbate (i cant contain my moanings when i do this).
How can i show her this side of mine without compromising our relationship?
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No.18911
>>18910
>How can i show her this side of mine without compromising our relationship?
<her
Found the problem
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No.18912
On a more serious note, is it wrong to wanna try more female-dominant sex positions? (No I don't mean strapons, that's mad gay)
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No.18914
>>11168
Knew a guy like kind of like this. Had real affection for him and we were friends. When we got around to sleeping together he was so passive when it came to the actual intercourse, like a dead fish passive. He had even been married before and had a kid so he was no virgin. I couldn't get over it. I literally didn't know what this guy wanted from me. He didn't voice anything. It was a total deal breaker. He sort of acknowledged that he knew why I was no longer interested in a really round about way by saying something to the effect of "I owe you next time, I know.." Kind of just made me angry that he even knew that he gave no effort to pleasing me and just figured he'd owe me one.
It was a long time ago but it still bothers me today. I liked him and he was not submissive or meek in any way before that incident. I don't hold any grudge because well shit… there's obviously a reason he became that way. But I wasn't willing to try and fix it. Too old for that teenager shit. Call me crazy but I just wanna have normal sweaty ole sex with a hairy masculine man without having to set up safe words and tarps and all that other bullshit. But I haven't fucked my brain with porn so that's probably why.
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No.18917
>>18914
Maybe he had regrets or something?
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No.18920
I have been raped by women before. It involved them drugging me and various other things. I wasn’t upset except for the lack of remembering who and what happened
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No.18922
>>18917
I'd say yes if he didn't pursue me endlessly afterwards to the point I would drive by my house before going home to make sure his car wasn't there.
>>18920
Went to high school with a kid who was at a party getting fucked up and he woke up with the town skank undoing his pants while sitting on him. He reflexively punched and knocked her out cold. Everyone at the party just told her she got drunk and fell when she came to. Pretty sure she knew what happened tho. Everyone else did that's for sure.
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