No.8251 [Last50 Posts]
I haven't used Ubuntu for years, ever since they started selling their souls to Amazon and bundling literal actual botnet malware in their distro, but for some reason I decided to give it an honest go today. Forget the Amazon shit. Forget the systemd. SNAP is the worst thing in the fucking world. Snap is pure absolute cancer.
How in the hell do people use Ubuntu? WHY do people still use Ubuntu? Jesus christ what the fuck happened to Ubuntu.
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No.8252
We all knew Plebuntu was trash since long time ago. This thread doesn't change anything.
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No.8253
Honestly because it's the first Linux OS I used and never bothered with others. Since I only use it for programming and work I've never had to be private but I'm considering switching to Debian now. Any other's worth checking out before I make the switch?
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No.8259
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No.8260
>>8253
Linux Mint is similar if you want something that just werks, except with less botnet.
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No.8265
>>8260
>Wanting old people OS
>>8251
sudo apt remove amazon
>inb4 shill
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No.8270
been using ubuntustudio since 12.04 - no amazon
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No.8274
>>8251
Where is it compromised security wise? Where in the source. Ode is there malware? What apps that come with it are botnet?
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No.8548
I use Kubuntu so I am not a noob like all those Ubuntu users ;)
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No.8572
It just works mane. I use it for work and such. If you want anonymity (for browsing pr0n for example) you can dual boot with another distro.
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No.8641
>>8274
It used to share your searches in the dash with Amazon by default you inbred nigger, and it still encourages you to send the botnet system analytics information during initial setup, and pushes Ubuntu One accounts on people.
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No.8650
>>8251
So what's the deal with snap anyway?
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No.8659
I find it annoying. PPA are a mess, apt is slow and annoying, repo packages are old for doing real work and snaps are just a shitty patch trying to fix that.
For work (development) I use arch because AUR and the package management mostly. When I need a stable distro (servers and such) I rely on Debian.
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No.8660
>>8265
>E: Unable to locate package amazon
Xubuntu
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No.8746
>>8660
That means there is no amazon shit in your pc.What the fuck is with the people lately here.>>8660
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No.8812
Ubuntu was always shit you nignog. The first time I remember knowing it was shit was 2006 or 2007.
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No.9567
>>8253
Try Devuan instead of Debian. It's debian without systemd
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No.9569
>>8251
Software that gets lots of funding will expand in scope for better or worse. The real shame is that nobody made unofficial Ubuntu isos that continued Ubuntu 10.10. It's not hard, just build an ISO with gnome2/MATE instead of Unity using the regular Ubuntu packages. All Ubuntu needed to do was keep the desktop the same long enough (5+ years) for people to get used to it. Windows 10's interface is still 90% the same as Windows XP. But alas some things were never meant to be and Linux Mint stole Ubuntu's popularity, becoming the most popular Linux distro.
I assure you that if Ubuntu looked like this today, it would've been the #1 distro
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No.9591
>>8251
Ubuntu itself sucks but Ubuntu derivatives, spins, flavors or whatever the fuck they're called (like Kubuntu, Xubuntu etc..) are actually a pretty good balance between cancer and autism. Thank God all this shit is open source.
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No.9595
>>9591
Ubuntu is shit to its core, these respins just polish a turd
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No.9596
>>8251
What is so bad about SNAP?
I never used it, and only know it exists.
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No.9597
>>9569
Oh that was such a classic.
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No.9603
>>8660
uninstall it through the software center.
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No.9814
>>8251
it's a starter linux, also it has the most support for games.
If game devs didn't only support Ubuntu then more people would be using Gentoo and arch.
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No.10640
All Linux distros have become shit one way or another since 2014, except maybe Gentoo and Slackware. Wait nvm, Slackware switched to pulseaudio lmao
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No.10661
>>10640
Void is pretty based imo
i also heard good stuff about Guix but only tested it in a VM jet
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No.10663
>>10661
I mean distros suitable for daily use
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No.10664
>>10663
using void now for over 2 years as my main OS, the biggest flaw is that you have to use other wikis to troubleshoot in most cases because the user base isn't that big. And the common problems that come with a rolling release distro. but xbps and runit are fucking solid.
if you mean Guix, yes its in a early stage but the concept seems to be awesome for second/backup machines
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No.10723
Debian/Devuan is pretty good. I also use Artix Linux but that's because I have time in case something goes wrong.
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No.10728
>>10723
>Devuan is pretty good
It lacks a minimal/net install.
i use it currently as my backup machine but it kinda sucks to not being able to install just the stuff i need
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No.10732
>>8253
debians your best bet, similar enough to ubuntu that you wont have trouble.
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No.10734
>>9569
Ubuntu MATE is a thing.
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No.10819
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No.10820
>>10663
install antix. and just delete the bloat.install xfce minimal.
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No.11186
FOrever chasing the year of the Linux Desktop...with more bloat n'sheeeeiiiit
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No.11187
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No.11195
>>8641
>It used to share your searches in the dash with Amazon by default
Yes, this is clearly bad.
>it still encourages you to send the botnet system analytics information during initial setup
Define botnet or kill yourself, analytics are a must to figure out what needs fixing in a timely manner, the important thing is for them to be strongly anonymous by default and to have options to turn them off.
>pushes Ubuntu One accounts
And what's bad about that?
Unified sign in is exactly what users do regardless by reusing passwords.
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No.11218
>>11195
>analytics are a must to figure out what needs fixing in a timely manner
Bullshit, you’re just making excuses for the botnet. Faggot.
It’s incredibly easy to spot you, very fucking sloppy.
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No.11283
>37 posts and not a single legitimate criticism of Ubuntu
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No.11286
>>11283
GNOME 3 is slow and has stutter/tearing/60fps lock problems and other performance problems(like moving your mouse pointer causes cpu/gpu spikes, yeah...) since whenever that incest of software came to be
Snap is shit, not compatible with themes, wastes hard drive space and facilitates security problems
Ubuntu server is useless now that they're pushing their retarded defaults, their user/admin manuals are literally just basic instructions on how to use GNOME and their crap software shop gui bs so good fucking luck if you aren't a 1337 dark wizard and need to know where the fuck are network conf files located.
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No.11330
fixed that for you....next time I get kernal panic or it crashes tho im doing devuan
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No.11336
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No.11337
>>11336
Follow the gentoo wiki's instructions
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No.11374
>be me
>get i3 Acer laptop yesterday
>install Xubuntu 18.04.3
>won't boot under legacy bios
>switch to UEFI
>bricked
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No.11499
>>11337
How do i install clover?
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No.11500
>>8572
>If you want anonymity (for browsing pr0n for example) you can dual boot with another distro.
Why not only use that other distro then?
>>11374
What is this shit modern machines, especially notebooks, tend to do? Never experienced it myself with one of my machines though.
>>11499
Doesn't it ask you for that automatically? But is clover even still alive? Haven't heard about it in a year.
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No.11502
>>11500
Trying to install it from USB but only get a "remove disk or other media devices" when i choose it to boot the USB from the BIOS. No idea what the fuck im doing
>still alive
Probably
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No.11503
>>11502
Oh so it doesn't even boot? How did you create the USB media?
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No.11504
>>11503
just moved the ISO to the USB, then i tried using imageUSB which made it boot but then it didnt detect any CD
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No.11508
>>11504
Got it working now, but then it just hangs at starting local...
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No.11510
>>11508
Have you tried simply using dd to create the usb? If all else fails this should work.
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No.11511
>>11510
It worked!
should have tried that hours ago
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No.11512
>>11500
cloveros was pretty much finished. if you check the twitter, it's still getting regular updates
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No.11513
>>8251
Today Ubuntu gave me the middle finger so I nuked it from my laptop
>Update Ubuntu
>Wifi Driver breaks
>Spends 6hr working on it, nothing works
>Formats HDD and installs W10
Idgaf about using W10, it does 'just work' and I only use a laptop for school, like Microdick will care about what I do at school.
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No.11517
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No.11520
Is there any info on installing cloverOS onto an SSD? it wont boot from bios or mount
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No.11807
>>8251
why would you use ubuntu when manjaro is the better distro for normies that dont want to actually do work? it actually has somewhat up to date software preinstalled on it at least. ubuntu shit is from like 2014
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No.12374
>>11330
Don't forget whoopsie-preferences
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