No.130 [Last50 Posts]
>GNOME is infested with SJW shit (Outreach for Women project is bankrupting GNOME)
>KDE is unpolished and still has this semantic desktop core that balloons into 512 GB of RAM use
>Unity is going through its 7th rewrite, God knows if they're using QML or libNux or Whatever this time
>XFCE is practically in life support mode
>MATE is doomed to be obsolete
>LXDE is awkwardly in an incomplete phase changing to Qt
>Cinnamon is just Gnome Shell (with its share of memory leaks in a fucking DE) with some Brazillian extensions bolted on
>Pantheon is a pretty but useless joke
>Enlightenment is useless in real life
>Openbox is written by a fucking feminist who wants LKML to be more "female friendly"; its configuration is also in XML
>Other *box are basically dead because all the *box hipsters have migrated to Openbox
>Tiling WMs are too try hard
Welp, why is there no good choice of DE/WM in the glorious land of GNU/Linux in 2014?
All of them are shit.
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No.136
Most DEs/WMs are good enough wtf is your problem OP I don't want updates or gimmicks to make it more impressive or feel like its constantly being worked on damn I'm fine like this. Leave me and XFCE alone holy shit they control us because of you.
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No.139
OP have you tried KDE on Arch Linux?
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No.196
>>136tiling wm are superior I am considering all de as bloat or just pure shit.
I am not OP by the way.
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No.266
>>130KDE is the best DE for normalfag (nobody on any chan )Windows baby ducks.
xmonad is the best WM. perfect multiple monitor support without even trying.
compiled binary is actually very small and efficient (despite the big haskell dependencies).
the contrib package adds a shitload of features to use.
the sky is the limit for xmonad.
it has two downsides.
haskell dependencies take up space on the harddrive.
so far no waylandmonad.
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No.274
>>Tiling WMs are too try hard
Are you angry because you don't know how to use them or what?
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No.289
>>130>xfce>deadhttp://git.xfce.org/?s=idlelooks to me like it's just not something you want
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No.309
fuck I use gnome but I didn't know about that SJW shit.
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No.311
ARCH LINUX ON KDE
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No.334
>Tiling WMs are too try hard
pleb
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No.371
>>309Same, and I hate those fuckers with the burning passion of 2^97 suns
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No.374
>>130
>Pantheon is a pretty but useless jokeHaven't tried eOS yet, care to elucidate?
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No.417
>>309why would SJW want to infiltrate linux communities what would they gain anyway?
Someone's probably butthurt and stirring some shit.
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No.531
>>Tiling WMs are too try hard
git gud :^)
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No.719
XFCE has completed its goals. Why would you keep writing software when it does what you want? That's just stupid.
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No.722
>>130i3 is a tiling wm and it's pretty easy to use. The workspace management automatic, just like Gnome. The configuration syntax is pretty simple and self-explanatory. It runs i3bar automatically and it has the usual time and date, battery and notification icons (along with some extra stuff like load average and network activity). It's fully configurable and uses only 7MiB of RAM. Use nitrogen, xsetroot or similar program to change the background (i3 doesn't do that for you, but you can use .xinitrc or .xsessionrc). It's also possible to use it with XFCE, replacing the panel and window manager.
The downside is that it doesn't have the a11y features of KDE or Gnome. If you use those features, stick with an accessible DE and download more RAM. Some menu accelerators don't work in the default config, so if you use those then just change Mod1 to Mod4 in the config (or use other solutions mentioned in the FAQ).
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No.728
>>722i3 is pretty great, takes all of 10 minutes to learn.
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No.806
>>374I installed eOS once, fucking horrid.
>click that pantheon menu>a delay>it was annoying>I think that it might crash my computer if I hit it 5 times>I hit it 5 times>crashMy computer is nice too, just don't use eOS it's garbage.
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No.810
>>130life without x is the only way to go.
if you become proficient with screen and tmux you can be independent of all this shit and live your life the way Torvalds intended
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No.811
>>266how can xmonads multiple monitor support be better then i3, it might be equal
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No.819
>/ (find)
>"Pattern not found: awesome"
I'm dissapointed, /g/
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No.820
Windowmaker friend.
You can make it look more modern, but a UI is made to get things done, not look pretty.
Tiling WMs aren't try hard at all either, but I can understand not wanting to learn how to move around with them.
Also, a lot of textmode programs are great and far easier to use than GUI based ones, so maybe not as a replacement, but I would make use of the TTYs
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No.829
Maybe you'd have a better time, OP, if you didn't care about the politics of your DE. I use GNOME even though I do not agree completely with it's Outreach program. Why? Because I'm a fucking adult.
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No.954
>Openbox is written by a fucking feminist who wants LKML to be more "female friendly"; its configuration is also in XML
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No.962
>>130Call me a faggot but I like cinnamon on Linux Mint.
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No.975
>>130>Not mentioning KDE Plasma 5>Hardware acceleration expanded>Overhauled KDE libraries>Ram usage dropped massively>Very polished>High hopes for crisper themes>Still many bugsimplying
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No.976
>>130>>GNOME is infested with SJW shit (Outreach for Women project is bankrupting GNOME)u wot
>>Enlightenment is useless in real lifeu fukken wot
Please stop.
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No.1036
xfce master race
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No.1040
>MATE is doomed to be obsolete
If it continues to work with current software, who cares
sounds like the most fixable one in the list
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No.1086
All you faggot babbies who need a GUI. stfu and lrn2bash
CLI IS LOVE CLI IS LIFE
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No.1088
>>417they want to infiltrate e v e r y t h i n g man. nothing can be un-sjw.
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No.1103
>>417Man the thing about gnome, it's true
Unfortunately.
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No.1131
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No.1139
Nice pasta :^)
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No.1226
>>130>GNOME is infested with SJW shit (Outreach for Women project is bankrupting GNOME)Open source software shouldn't depend on money in the first place. So what if the gnome project invested their money in the wrong way. Also outreach for women is necessary. Can't comment on the effectiveness though.
Considering most of GTK+/GNOME development is now dictated by Redhat anyway, the OFW shouldn't worry you.
>KDE is unpolished and still has this semantic desktop core that balloons into 512 GB of RAM uselol plasma
>Unity is going through its 7th rewrite, God knows if they're using QML or libNux or Whatever this timeThe global menu bar / indicators are really nice. This can be ported to gnome2/mate/xfce though.
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No.1601
Ututo + KDE master race reporting in.
>KDE is unpolished and still has this semantic desktop core that balloons into 512 GB of RAM useDisable nepomuk and semantic-desktop USE flags and you're god-tier.
>>1226>lol plasmaThis guy gets it. It's the most RAM-hungry process, but the whole system is far below 512MB on my setup.
In the end, a complete desktop -- more features than any of the competitors -- and it Just Werkz. FOSS without Poettering.
That said, ALSA still bothers me three or four times a year when I try to use HDMI audio (and have to hack up an .asoundrc file), but that may be because I'm a lazy retard. It's better than the alternatives.
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No.1614
>MATE is doomed to be obsolete
I like MATE! It's the only thing that will run on my Alienware
>inb4 alienfag
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No.1975
>>1086i think you mean L2shell
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No.2015
xfce is boss
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No.2034
I've heard fluxbox is bretty ok.
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No.2049
6 months later and OP is still completely right. KDE is the only usable option and it's a joke compared to what KDE 3 was at the end of its life. Truly we live in dreadful times, especially since KDE5 (fuck you, name autists) is going to require systemd parts to actually work at all.
>>1601Use OSS, fag.
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No.2073
>no cwm
do you even hipster, faggot?
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No.2093
Dont use a DE. Install Awesome WM. Learn for a week. Be happy.
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No.2100
>>374
OP is right on this one, I did tried eOs when Freya came out, I won't lie, I does look beautifull,and is easy to move around, but that's it, it is an useless joke.
Kinda like a Mac, it is pretty, but shit nontheless
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No.2103
>MATE is doomed to be obsolete
>Being this retarded
There's already been movement towards GTK3.
Listen to a goddamned interview with whassisname. Martin.
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No.2125
>>829
No you're not, as seen by your lack of reading comprehension skills.
While the OP is against SJW shit, his main claim was that the Outreach for Women project was bankrupting GNOME, not that he'd specifically stop using GNOME because of their politics.
Get off your high horse.
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No.2126
>>962
Sounds like a cake or an ice-cream flavor.
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No.2162
>>2093
Awesome WM is the buggiest, most unreliable WM I've ever used. If you're retarded enough to think rice > usability, choose i3. Otherwise, stick with productive WMs that actually work.
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No.2163
>>2103
Dayum, maybe mate truly is the future after all. Will they start developing new programs too or are they simply going to keep mate in its "vanilla" frozen state with maintenance? I'd love to have a KDE-free krunner or maintained kupfer as well as a notification stack.
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No.2322
I'm actually using LXQt and it's a really nice Qt5 desktop. Too bad that Qt5 has no Gtk theme management. For fuck's sake. When Gtk 3.0 landed, all the faggot devs got together to support it in a heartbeat, but Qt5 gets no fucking love whatsoever. I bet all those Gnome queers, that deny Gnome being a tablet DE, secretly love it for being a tablet DE.
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No.2350
>>962
Faggot
>>130
NemoShell isn't out yet :(
Really everything sucks and we should look at new ways to interact with the system.
Virtual Reality is the future.
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No.2351
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No.2512
>Xfce is dead/deprecated
this is a bad and false meme
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No.2614
rio and dwm are the only ones I've tried and they're both fine. i3 looks cool, too. i thjink i'll try it some day.
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No.2615
>>1086
>>1131
i think you mean rc
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No.2646
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No.2667
>Tiling WMs are too hard
here's your problem
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No.2671
>>130
>>Openbox is written by a fucking feminist who wants LKML to be more "female friendly"; its configuration is also in XML
>LKLM to be more "female friendly"
source? I searched to no avail
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No.2682
>millenium 2000 + 15
>not using a custom dwm setup with diverse source code changes and patches
git gud
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No.2683
>>130
Nigger what about Sugar?
Obviously superior to everything.
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No.2687
I'm using i3, and I love it. People who complain that tiling wm's are too hard should really try it. I didn't like awesomewm when I tried it, but i3 seems so natural and easy to use, I'd really recommend it to everyone.
Learning to use mod+shift and the arrow keys to move windows is really no more difficult than using a mouse. If you're worried that using keyboard keys to manipulate your computer is scary or difficult in some way, then don't be. It's really simple and cozy, and dmenu is excellent.
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No.2959
>Openbox is written by a fucking feminist who wants LKML to be more "female friendly"
Source? I believe you - but I'm just compiling a list of "comapnies to avoid" as this SJW cancer continues to spread.
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No.2965
What's wrong with tiling wms? They make it easier to multitask imo. I thought awesome was pretty good and would recommend it. Most people seem to prefer i3 or bspwm though
Currently I'm using stumpwm because muh lisp
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No.3001
>>819
>/ (find)
Hell yeah, just installed VimFX today. It's excellent.
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No.3034
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No.3035
>Tiling WMs are too try hard
"I don't feel cool enough when using it because people who use it care that they're cool."
>XFCE is practically in life support mode
It's basically the most common DE on the market besides Gnome or Unity
>MATE is doomed to be obsolete
It's the opposite of obsolete, kek. It's the continuation of gnome 2 to keep it from being obsolete.
>Pantheon is pretty
It's a shitty start button plugin on gnome with a stupid mac clone theme.
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No.3039
>>130
>too "try hard"
Yeah, you're a fag
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No.3044
>>2163
Part of the benefit of ubuntu-mate is he can tinker a bit more. Like adding the drop-down terminal & synapse. As far as developing new software, not that I'm aware of.
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No.3454
All the time and resources spent on cinnamon, unity and other GTK3 desktops could have been spent adding features to MATE, which was already working and stable.
Instead, we got re-inventions of the wheel.
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No.4104
ChromiumOS works great with none of the above problems.
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No.4108
>>130
>Tiling WMs are too try hard
The problem with tiling window managers is that it's almost impossible to realize how much you want one until you've used one for a few months already.
Then you'll miss it. i3 is great.
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No.4109
>Outreach Program for Women
GNOOOOOOOOOOOOME
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No.4117
>>1975
What's that? EUMEL?
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No.4798
>>130
I don't really understand where you're coming from. If you're this OCD about your graphical interface then you should be happy that tiling WMs give you total control.
If you're dead set on using a desktop then KDE seems fine to me. RAM use is a bit of a stupid meme.
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No.4810
>>130
Mate is great.
i3wm is great too. OP is a fag
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No.4838
Is Unity the one with the Amazon adverts built in?
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No.4975
>>130
I run CDE on arch linux. It's awful tolerable
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No.5442
>xfce
>lxde
They work great. Why are you complaining about codebase activity while people are still using Windows XP just fine these days?
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No.5449
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No.5452
Install CDE and call it a day.
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No.5458
>>130
>>Tiling WMs are too try hard
AwesomeWM is easy.
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No.5625
>>417
OSS autists tend to include a disproportionate number of trannies. Trannies tend to be SJWs. No conspiracy required.
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No.5748
>>130
What's wrong with KDE and arch? It's comfy tbqh.
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No.5870
I N S T A L L G E N T O O
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No.5871
When you finally hit god-tier, there's always EXWM.
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No.6239
>>130
>Tiling WMs are too try hard
Yeah, no.
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No.6416
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No.6427
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No.6490
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No.6494
>>3035
>>MATE is doomed to be obsolete. It's the opposite of obsolete, kek. It's the continuation of gnome 2 to keep it from being obsolete.
This.
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No.6497
>>266
>kde
disagreed.
best DE for normalfags is cinnamon. best distribution for normalfags is Mint.
Prove me wrong.
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No.6500
Unity has been killed. The devs are going to Gnome.
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No.6501
>>6500
excellent, a cent-number!
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No.6504
>>1226
>outreach for women is necessary
necessary scam, yes
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No.6593
>>130
>MATE is doomed
lolwut? Why?
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No.6599
>Outreachy internships are open internationally to women (cis and trans), trans men, and genderqueer people. Internships are also open to residents and nationals of the United States of any gender who are Black/African American, Hispanic/Latin@, Native American/American Indian, Alaska Native, Native Hawaiian, or Pacific Islander.
GNOME is a good DE despite the bloat, but damn this is cancerous.
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No.6618
>Pantheon
>Useless joke
Absolutely not. Great WM, the only bad thing about it is that it is developed for a shitty ubuntu-based distro. To be honest Pantheon is saving said distro. Try it.
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No.6711
>>6599
The right way to deal with that is: NO DONATIONS EVER!
But not a reason to stop using it.
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No.6728
>>1226
> Also outreach for women is necessary.
Scam
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No.6729
Phh mate isnt going to die. The ubuntu cunts keep it running.
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No.6741
>>130
Currently acceptable DEs
>cinnamon
>mate
Now be quiet, anon
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No.6758
>>130
Shut the fuck up.
KDE has literally no performance issues anymore, it's been a huge while since those have been fixed. Manjaro KDE for 2 years here and never had any problems at all.
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No.6761
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No.6922
>KDE is unpolished and still has this semantic desktop core that balloons into 512 GB of RAM use
No it doesn't and no it doesn't.
strigi is gone and baloo is not semantic
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No.6923
>>6711
It's not far-fetched to say that usage will end. Every SJW-infested project fails. I honestly don't believe RedHat will keep funding it much longer.
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No.7858
>>130
>Tiling WMs are too try hard
Once you start using and get a hang of tiling wms, you will see that tiling wms are superior and you will be unable to use floating wm because they suck compared to tiling wm.
(I use i3)
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No.7870
>>139
why would you use a minimalist distro but not a minimalist wm, i mean to each his own, holy shit this was written 4 years ago
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No.7871
>>810
how are you using 8chan?
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No.7872
>>2959
"the sjws are infiltrating free software projects because they hate freedom" is a meme, all that's really happening is more normies are getting interested in free software which is a good thing
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No.7873
>>3044
the drop down terminal (tilda) is one of the things i brought with me when i moved from ubuntu-mate to ubuntu + i3, i used to use synapse but switched to i3-dmenu-desktop
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No.7874
>>4838
that was caused by ubuntu 14 not by unity, although it hardly matters now because ubuntu switched to gnome
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No.7875
>>5748
ngl this one screenshot almost convinced me to try kde, and i use ubuntu + i3
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No.7876
>>6711
>no donations
>implying i ever donate or contribute to anything i use
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No.7973
Just use Fluxbox or Blackbox. They may be dead but who cares? It's not that they urgently need a path. I like to use cinnamon on machines with plenty of resources though.
>>7870
>minimalist distro
Arch can be anything you want it to be. It can be minimalistic or really heavy, the point is to give you an empty piece of paper to build the system you want while still being easy to use and maintain if you compare it too gentoo.
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No.7974
>>7871
Maybe he's using a framebuffer browser. For example netsurf supports framebuffer.
You can also display graphics in w3m, don't know if that works without X though.
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No.8307
>DE
idk, I am pretty comfy here using bspwm
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No.8463
>>130
So whats your view on WindowMaker, CDE, and MaXX magic desktop?
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No.8475
>>130
>not using IceWM
wtf is wrong with you, op????
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No.8610
>>7872
>normies are getting involved. That's a good thing!
It will spell the end of projects. Some probably good projects. Tech isn't the sole reign of 1337 hax0rz introverts, but mass embracing of terrible people with terrible ideas will end with terrible results. They just think this is sustainable for the time being because tech projects make bank and are trendy.
Wait till buggy pieces of shit become the norm, and then good coders are forced out making way for even buggier pieces of shit that bring down companies, Enron style. Then the bubble pops and shitty normies move on to the next trendy hobby to crash into the ground.
No, mass participation is not a good thing when you can't call out anti-merit
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No.8615
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No.8623
Well, budgie has no problems right?
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No.8624
>>130
i3. I mean seriously, stop being a masochist and just use a decent wm. There are so many, if you don't, it's entirely your fault, being the guy who thinks he's to elitist or whathever to use windows while not being able to configure an alternative OS in a way that it would make you happier than a blowjob. But in the Linux world, it's always you yourself who's to blame. Sure, you're using all ready made source code to compile your stuff but still - you're expected to be a thinking man. And hell, with w3m img preview you don't even need a wm. You'll probably have one, but when you just want to chill out, just use the terminal or it's just your own fault for buying into suspiscious mechanics rather than thinkinking and coding for yourself
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No.8652
>>719
This
>>6504
Outreach vs. git gud on your own
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No.8876
>>130
Why even bother with a GUI?
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No.8886
it's i3-gaps you fucking nigger
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No.8908
>>2162
>i3 supports tiled, tabbed, stacked, and these 3 functions nested
>i3 supports floating windows well and supports resizing with ease
>i3 has a built-in bar with easy configuration
Ofcourse these features aren't about movement itself, but the only thing you may not like is the default movement keys - which you can easily configure.
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No.8909
>>130
You find the people doing this, both the SJWs and the ones backing the SJWs. You pull them out of their cars. You beat the everliving fucking shit out of them until they forget their own names.
Then it never happens again. World peace.
Then you find a group of programmers you know and trust in person. You do not let anyone into the circle without unanimity. You arm yourselves with guns and make it known that any fuckery will be met with extreme violence. Any mystery deaths will face blind retaliation.
That is how you protect technology. The world relies on good code. Trump is about to exterminate the Rothschilds and Soros faggots who do this shit. You have to rise at the same time.
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No.8911
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No.8987
>>1226
I think we need as many programmers as possible. Sincerely curious why in your opinion is it necessary?
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No.9003
>>7973
> while still being easy to use and maintain if you compare it too gentoo
Using both concurrently on different devices, and gentoo is far and ahead easier to maintain than arch. Gentoo gives you a clean set of useful tools to manage packages and dependencies, meaningful feedback, explanations and tutorials, and has a complete, well maintained default package repository. Arch's tools are sub-par in comparison, and its default package repository is sparse and prone to annoying conflicts and broken packages.
The defining characteristics of arch:
> predominance of user/community maintained packages and wiki
> pressure to have latest releases/packages
> compliance with developer demanded feature creep(systemd, pulse, etc.)
All are interdependent and should give you a good picture of the arch userbase. It has its upsides and downsides, but arch would definitely not be my first choice for either my main desktop system or a stable production server.
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No.10641
>>130
FVWM
Come home white man
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No.10643
OpenBox because everything else is bloat.
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No.10644
>>8886
i3 gaps is for people who don't know how to mod i3
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No.10680
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>>6497
>mint
<got hacked. and served infected images
>chinamon
<unstable piece of shit that crashes like a bitch
just install debian and xfce4, like a real professional.
>>8624
>>10643
>>10644
>not using IceWM
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No.10831
>>130
>Too tryhard
Says who? Niggerfaggots?
It's more functional than what you'll ever amount to
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No.10839
dwm is not mentioned nearly enough. Add some colours to config.h. Add scrolling, gaps, and transparency patches. Done.
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No.10841
>>10839
But bspwm has all of this already
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No.10902
>>2687
>dmenu
>not rofi
gay.
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