/fur/ - Furry★

>Posting a story from 2016

Gee you're really on the button there, OP

>>84432 (OP)

Man that's a lot of time taken away from someone for touching skin with someone else. I feel sorry for lavadog, and hope he gets help.

>>84434

>Checks date

>2018/10

>Sentenced on Tuesday, Oct. 2

>Title is "sent to prison"

>Story from 2016

what

>>84435

>describing what happened vaguely to make it seem like what he did was harmless

fuck off, pedophile apologist

>>84447

this is a local journalism website. This is probably the first time they've even heard what a "furry" is. They probably think he was part of a sexual deviancy cult.

>Lavadog Ashpaw

>His fursona is a lava-colored wolf, probably with ash-colored pawpads

Child rapist or not, that guy deserves prison for this shit.

>>84447

Sensationalism sells newspapers, anon. Lots of people wear glasses, but being a furry is WEIRD and thus deviant and wrong to the people who care about this kind of shit.

>>84447

>It's irrelevant too

It most likely is, but you have to admit it's easy as all hell for them to misconstrue it as trying to appeal to underage kids in order to get close to them more easily.

>>84447

To be fair he was also a diaperfur, which is a sect known for coddling pedos

>>84447

>"man who wears prescription glasses sent to prison for raping young boy."

I would read an article like that, sounds interesting

>majority of furries defend cub shit, turn to Trump because he defends child molesters

>"we're not a pedo fandom!"

>>84432 (OP)

I wonder if this guy can be defended as well as kero

>>84450

They're not wrong.

In fact this should probably be in the roadkill thread since apologists w-

>>84435

Oh here's one now.

>>84490

This guy was tried in a court of law and convicted. He also abused a living human child.

There is still zero evidence against Kero, so little that the police won't even open an investigation despite dozens of people throwing circumstantial bullshit their way. And even if he WERE guilty, it would have been "abuse" of a dead animal.

Big differences. You're comparing apples with hand grenades.

>>84523

>There is still zero evidence against Kero

>Circumstantial bullshit

Such as video proof of him abusing his dog?

In any case, thank goodness we have an upstanding moral guardian like you here. Who knew that a convicted child abuser is bad to have around kids, and that someone who is alleged to rape dead animals is far better company for my kids, god bless

>>84523

>There is still zero evidence against Kero

right, because kero reposting kothorix's video that explained how he agreed to the logs being real doesn't mean anything

>>84523

>says the increasingly nervous dogfucking paedophile for the eleventh time today.

I have personally filed a police report reguarding Kero and have recieved confirmation that there is an open investigation. You know what is going to happen to that fat fuck in prison?

Yiff in hell dograpists.

>>84551

>Dog chooses to mount you

>Somehow this isn't consensual

>Somehow this harms the animal

>>84535

Post the video, retard. Oh wait, you can't; it doesn't exist and never did.

>>84538

>This guy watched a video that was supposedly reposted by someone who supposedly agreed to some logs that supposedly said he committed a crime

And this is what you consider hard evidence?

>>84551

>I totes filed a police report and they're totes investigating, trust me

Lol.

>>84551

All furries are dogfuckers.

Let me take a guess: just like all of the other (few) furries who've been outed as child rapists or found with CP, I'll bet this guy did not draw cub porn. As often as people claim cub artists must be pedos, I have yet to see a fur arrested on such charges who was. The ones who were artists didn't draw cubs.

>raping

>>84440

What he did was likely harmless, sex is all about pleasure not pain.

Is this another person who didnt do anything wrong because people said so

>>84621

Anti-cub or just not openly into it, yes.

>>84640

This guy got caught, investigated and charged. Yes, he most assuredly was doing what he was accused of doing. Kero seems to be up-in-the-air, I haven't seen actual video of him doing what he's accused of doing but there are claims that he's under investigation.

>>84663

kero admitted to the things though

>>84621

It's classic avoidance technique. A person breaking a law is going to go to every ends to make sure there's no suspicion of them, by avoiding anything even slightly related to that crime. So a person using illegal drugs will refuse a hit of legal weed in public. A person molesting children will avoid all other interactions with children and art with children.

There are exceptions to this, but it's still commonplace.

>>84626

Having sex with a child results in the child being harmed. Whether it's caused by the actual sexual act or the resulting sensationalist investigation and court case and "therapy" for the child, is irrelevant.

>>84674

>loli

I think you're missing something very important here.

>>84683

How would oral cause pain?

>>84432 (OP)

If all furries look like this, I guess I'm the most fuckable furry on this earth.

>>84716

Pain is not the only form of harm anon, when people talk about children being harmed by sexual abuse it's usually mental trauma

>>84730

I have my doubts it's as a direct result of the sexual activity itself but a result of societal shame. There's a weird stigma attached to virginity (and the loss thereof) so I'm sure for many children that were sexually abused they felt shamed of the lack of control they had over the situation. Could we theoretically create a scenario where sex between adults and children isn't mentally abusive? I think we could, but the problem is there still exists that a significant amount of people performing these acts do so because they want the power of the action, which is still abusive regardless of how society views sex.

>>84730

If they are too young to make memories how would it be mental trauma?

If things that cause mental trauma are so bad, then why isn't theft punished so heavily, or bullying?

I just don't appreciate the hypocrisy, and I honestly feel worse for lavadog than the boy he pleasured. One boy gets a fun time and the other gets 25 years behind bars... America can be so dumb sometimes.

>>84673

As I said in that thread, I couldn't possibly care less what he does with a corpse, though I admit the police might. The big charge, I think, is the claim that he's killing animals in order to have sex with them. Has he admitted to that?

>>84683

>A person molesting children will avoid all other interactions with children and art with children

And yet many of them end up having found ways to spend time around kids, and usually owned child pornography. What there ISN'T is proof that people who like cub art/stories are necessarily into real human children.

>>84738

>I have my doubts it's as a direct result of the sexual activity itself but a result of societal shame

Of fucking course it is. There is no magic switch that goes off in a person's brain when they hit the age of majority in the state or territory they're in that suddenly makes them ready for sex, and never before. The reason they spend the rest of their life feeling like an abuse victim is because for several years after the sex act happened they're being told by everyone (including parents, police, doctors, and other authority figures) that they were a victim of abuse. If you tell a ten-year-old day after day after day that they're a goddamn alien from Mars, they're eventually going to believe it. Saying that a child would be inherently damaged by a physically enjoyable sex act is like saying they would be damaged by eating extremely delicious food; clearly their brain is just not ready for it! The laws in place are one part futile deterrent attempt for the cases where it really IS violent rape, and one part punishment of people for being "perverts". Same as anti-bestiality laws, and sodomy laws where those still exist. The act is automatically criminal even if there is a complete absence of inflicted pain and suffering. So much for justice being blind.

>>84790

>And yet many of them end up having found ways to spend time around kids, and usually owned child pornography

The issue with this is that is uses a biased sample, ie: only the ones that were caught and prosecuted. There are a lot more child molesters than those few that are imprisoned, and it's simply not possible to find reliable statistical information about them. Even I don't know; my claim was based upon other crimes and basic human psychology; and I very well could be wrong, but that would mean child molesters are different from all other humans, and that's absurd.

>>84800

>The issue with this is that is uses a biased sample

You're correct. I suppose my original point was just that all of the pedophile furries who've been caught so far were downloading and/or distributing CP, and/or were molesting children, but none have been artists or mass consumers of cub porn. While the "...that we know of so far..." aspect can indeed be claimed, and claimed properly, so far it seems to be going in the direction of disproving the common fandom notion that producers and consumers of cub material must all be actual pedophiles-- it seems to suggest that one can indeed enjoy or even create this sort of drawn or written porn, yet not necessarily be a child molester or CP consumer.

>>84810

MOST cub art is nothing like real children. More like short "cute" adults who have adult mentalities to sex, adult sex-drives, adult fertility, and adult-sized genitals.

So it easily stands to reason that most people into cub aren't also into real children, and vice-versa. Same thing with people into furry characters not being into real animals. Calling people into cub a bunch of pedophiles has been, since the very beginning, a strawman for kinkshaming purposes. The only people who ACTUALLY believe it have one argument, and that's quibbling semantics (and can be defeated by just saying that by that same logic they're a dogfucker).

>>84855

>>84862

Yeah, I like cubs and cub art because a lot of times it's just adults using these as avatars and being cute with it.

Children in general though? Fucking disgust me to the core. I'm a very strong advocate for keeping kids out of the fandom as well. Furries started out with being adult material, it should stay adult material

People who defend pedo shit don't deserve to be listened to. And guess what, dipshit, someone IGNORING you is NOT violating your first amendment rights! As if you have those anyway, if you don't live in the US, or if you do live in the US you have actually read the first amendment.

Your fandom is a front for pedos, no wonder it's attracted so many conservatives.

>>84878

>Your fandom is a front for pedos, no wonder it's attracted so many conservatives.

>everyone I don't like is a pedo

Either this a terrible false flag, or it's actually /leftypol/.

please go back to jerking it to porky or whatever it is you do

@84888 (not checked)

What a waste of trips.

>>84873

No one asked if real cub porn offended you, you don't have to be so defensive. Hopefully in the future if we have equal rights, no one will act like a nazi when they see an adult dating, holding hands with, and giving a lucky kid their first kiss.

>>84878

>Either this a terrible false flag, or it's actually /leftypol/

Nope. Just a garden-variety troll.

>no one will act like a nazi when they see an adult dating, holding hands with, and giving a lucky kid their first kiss

This is probably the same troll, judging by the low quality bait.

>>84862

I can't speak for anyone else, but I like it for the IDEAL of cub. Based on how furry as a whole works, and the amount of material I have consumed, I can kind of extrapolate the likely reasons. Real children and sex doesn't really work, for a variety of reasons, but cub (and shota/lolicon) allows for someone to add together the ideal with the real.

Most depictions of cub in narrative form are structurally extremely similar to old romantic stories about the wonder of "first experiences". With a fictional child, one can extend the metaphor of a first kiss or virginity loss all the way back to the first sexual experience ever, including first masturbation and first orgasm (which, in real life, usually happens to a person in their preteens). For me, regardless of context, very little turns me on harder than "first time"; and it doesn't have to be cub, but having it be cub makes it easier and more realistic. But no matter how many realistic traits one puts into a fictional child, it will never be a real child, and will never really be close. Aside from that, in this case, they're also anthropomorphs so not human from the very outset, and are never intended to be. How much a person chooses to idealize (or even exaggerate) this is all individual preference, but the core remains the same. It will never be real because it's an idealized, embellished form of reality, minus all the dirty and awkward parts of real life. That's true for all of fiction. Fapping over idealized cub children that avoids real children is very much the same as the way furry characters never have a dirty asshole (unless that's your fetish). It's taking all the good things without the bad things.

>>84447

They need more clicks.

Deserved it for raping that poor little boy. now a giant black man with HIV is going to rape him. will be dead in a year :).

>>85126

So rape is okay if it's a bad person. Gotcha.

What if the kid was a complete asshole, the kind of kid who tortured animals and beat his siblings and stole all the time? Would it have been okay to rape him, then?

>>85126

He didnt rape the boy, the boy was 13 and knew he wanted it. It's more accurate to use the word pleasured rather than raped.

Oh yeah, I remeber that guy!

Here his FA and IB page:

https://www.furaffinity.net/favorites/lavadog429/

https://inkbunny.net/lavadog420

Check out his favorites, it's all cub and babyfur stuff. Imagine my shock.

>>84855

Exactly. They're not like real kids. Intentionally, I think.

>>85210

How long do you keep fishing before you realize your worms are dead?

>>85211

Seems I'm wrong this time, this guy *was* into cub stuff. He doesn't have any really shocking stuff on his IB, though (as far as I can see). There's some squicky cub material around.

>>85211

>FA doesn't allow cub content unless they're clothed

>But fetishes like cubs in diapers is still completely okay!

If anything, the trend I've noticed is that people into cub WITH DIAPERS, always seem to be the ones who are pedos. Guess that's what happens when you eat too much shit.

>>85218

>this guy *was* into cub stuff

No, it was something far worse. This guy was into ponies.

>>85319

>WITH DIAPERS

No. Of the furries who've been arrested as pedos, this guy is the first to be openly into anything related to cubs OR diapers.

> This guy was into ponies

More fishing with dead bait. C'mon. If you're gonna troll, put some effort into it.

Appropriate captcha: boi eug

>>85361

His gallery literally has ponies in it. That's what he chose to draw, not what he merely chose to favorite, which is a lot more telling of his personality.

Think your invincible

, think again motherfucker.

the furry fandom will reveal all you sick fucks.

pedophiles belong in gas chambers, not in prison.

>>85614

Exactly, all this does is further divide and ruin the fandom. It doesn't have to be that way, but a shit ton of them decided to do this and now people are wondering why the furry fandom sucks so much. Ultimately, you have no one to blame but yourselves.

>>85600

Bullies don't ever expect to accomplish anything. They're just assholes who get off on making others suffer, or at least trying in futility to do so over the internet because in reality they're fat ugly retards in their mother's basement who would be too afraid to fight a chicken.

>>85615

They never seem to realize that banning cub is almost always a slippery slope to banning anything else.

>>85385

>His gallery literally has ponies in it. That's what he chose to draw, not what he merely chose to favorite, which is a lot more telling of his personality

I'm not sure what that's supposed to mean. Probably half the fandom is into MLP stuff and aren't pedophiles. None of the other furries arrested as pedos were into ponies. I've read the claims that adult men are into MLP only because it's for little girls, which somehow is said to mean they're into little girls themselves, but it doesn't seem to hold water.

>>85615

>>85641

Yes and yes.

>>85615

stfu pedofag

>>85251

source?

>>85749

That the only rebuttal you dogfuckers got?

>>85615

>B-bu-but you need to accept pedos or your fandom will suck.

No what'll make it suck is taking on every irredeemable sack of shit with worse and worse sexual interests.

>>85641

>They never seem to realize that banning cub is almost always a slippery slope to banning anything else.

Strange how that's never the case.

>stop disliking what I like!

I'm sick of this shit in the fandom.

>>85785

>stop liking what I dislike!

It goes both ways anon

>>85766

There is no such thing as a bad sexual interest so long as nobody is getting hurt. There are more non-pedophiles that molest children than pedophiles, because they're mostly "situational offenders" who get off on raping someone smaller and weaker than they are, and aren't actually attracted to children at all. It's the same concept as prison rapists who aren't actually gay.

Yet another reason why most people who get arrested aren't the ones with cub porn. Because child rapists aren't into children; else they wouldn't deliberately hurt children. What a difficult fucking concept, eh?

>>85839

>oh no he disagrees with me, it MUST be bait

>>85845

>Trump himself

>Roy Moore

>Milo

>Kavanaugh

>Hannity

>their hatred of Chris Hansen

No I'll pick two, they're a pedo party now.

>>85833

yet it's mostly the cub fans harassing the non-cub fans that seems to be a real problem, and often site staff turn a blind eye to it.

>>85845

>Pick only one.

The point was that right wing views and cub are things the vocal majority disagree with, and want to supress/get rid of, not that they're fundamentally similar.

>You however knew that since you listed those as examples, but just wanted to sound smart with a very weak gotcha.

Don't flatter yourself, but more importantly reread what I put, nowhere in there did I state or imply "you didn't mention THESE specific taboos too, THEREFORE YOU'RE OK WITH THEM!" The point was to bring up the fact that furries in and of themselves were built by and full of degenerates with varying sexual fixations. To want all of them gone is to basically get rid of the community/fandom as a whole, as there's very few truly vanilla, puritan furries who are just in it for the aesthetic.

So if your major hang-up is the perversion, again, where the hell do you think you are? How are you this "deep in" with surface level hang-ups like that?

>>85855

Now you're just shitposting. Literally no one outside of hyper-partisan progressive activists believes anything you just stated.

No wonder republikkkans are so attracted to the furry community. The left banned bestiality, so now it's their only way for them to get anything close to horsefucking without BEING ARRESTED. Explains the hypercapitalist nature of it as well.

has the sick fuck talked about his pedo friends and outed anyone yet?

Pedo Pedo Pedo Pedo Pedro

>>85886

It's not really illegal, since most countries wisely focus on solving actual crimes instead of arresting people for drawings. Keep in mind that legal != moral though, and likely shouldn't in the overwhelming majority of cases. Given a lot of it is more about disgust than preventing harm, at least in the short term.

>>84432 (OP)

I feel pretty bad for the guy :(

>>85916

you feel bad for the guy? i feel bad cant have sex with over 18 adults. what a sicko.

>>85923

People make mistakes, why should you fault him for just 1 mistake?

>>85916

>guy rapes a child

>was convicted of a crime

>"I feel bad for the guy"

>>85937

>People make mistakes, why should you fault him for just 1 mistake?

He repeatedly raped a child several times this isn't "1 mistake" this is multiple over a regular period. If the police didn't stop him he'd still be doing it.

>>85941

>Guy rapes a child

Using the wrong words to pervert reality doesn't change facts. He had consensual sex with a young teenager (13) in a territory where that is not yet legally old enough to consent to sex. If the kid were one year older and both of them born and living in Germany, the law would give it a pass. Since one year and a translocation of a few thousand miles isn't some incredible magic that changes baby-rape into okay-sex, it's clear that you're just bullshitting.

Be offended and disgusted by people who actually murder actual babies, not people who find themselves a few days and a few miles from legal right despite arguably being in the moral right.

>>85792

The question is, where did you find a place where it was pertinent to a discussion to bring up your opposition? And were you simply firm about it, or were you an angry asshole?

>>85864

Can you leave the politics in /pol/?

...err, I mean, unless getting banned makes your dick hard. In which case, I suppose, carry on, but we're laughing at you, not with you. Including lefties like me. As the immortal Butt-Head once opined, "huh huh huh, what a dumbass."

>>85941

It was the same incident just drawn out. If he had molested like 50 infants I guess I could see where he should get a slap on the wrist, but he didn't torture the kid, just loved the kid a little too much.

I don't think you understand how inhumane torturing someone in solitary confinement is for 25 years. They don't do that shit to cult leaders. Because moralfag retards think child molestation is somehow worse than murder, we will never live in a utopia, but look at the brightside... At least we don't have to spend our tax money on helping the homeless since we are wasting it on keeping kinky people behind bars for over 25 years.

>>84582

You disingenuous piece of fucking shit. How dare you.

They didn't have animals 'lovingly consent' to being raped to death with blunt objects. The roadkill they took home to fuck in the garage didn't 'present for penetration'.

They murdered and fucked animals, animals who died in extraordinary pain, and who suffered to the end. They took pleasure in the suffering they inflicted.

KYS

>>86001

hope kero and those sick fucks go to jail

>>85998

>How is that backpedling?

"Ah yeah man that rape, gore, zoophile porn etc. is top notch shit I can rub one out to everyday, but diddling cubs well that's where I draw the line".

This is a group according to you that has gone over the moral event horizon suddenly coming back from said horizon to engage in a spot of "moral faggotry".

>Being into degenerate shit isn't a universal deal.

Just like my tolerance isn't a universal deal.

>Yes there is, but that doesn't change the fact that both are centered around a fixation for sexualized animals.

1. Are you sure that's a wise statement to make after me stating to be against turbo degeneracy and being perfectly fine with those people being removed? What could you possibly think would be the outcome if you're genuinely enlightening me on the subject?

2. Unlike the "monstergirls/monsterfags are furry/closet furries" claim the "furries are just closet zoophiles" was a tired claim years ago that doesn't work simply because they're anthromophized and supposed to have an ability to think on a higher plane as a result.

Zoophiles don't care about any of that.

3. Centerings/settings really don't matter beyond basic filing.

>Says the cuckchanner spelling out sage in his post while thinking sage even matters anymore.

1. You're not an oldfag just because you say cuckchanner, also plebbit spacing doesn't help your claim.

2. What's copy paste?

3. Too bad you're gonna see it every post. It's a courtesy for other people that might not want to see the thread constantly popping up on the front page.

>>86017

>This is a group according to you that has gone over the moral event horizon suddenly coming back from said horizon to engage in a spot of "moral faggotry"

Again, it's not a universal deal. Some are hypocrites, others convince themselves that "as long as there's someone with a "worse" kink, i'm not all that bad." and so on, there's no single, all emcompassing answer that applies to everyone.

1. The same thing that always happens, (you) end up "leaving" and the degenerates continue doing what they do, because there's far more of them then there's "you". And even if you did somehow manage to get all of them to "leave" they would just gather together and continue doing what they were doing before.

2. I'm well aware that anthros are far removed from mindless, feral animals, however that doesn't remove the fact that what attracts people to anthros are it's animal specific qualities, physcally, and to some extent mentally, therefore there's still a degree of being into "sexualized animals".

>You're not an oldfag

I never cared to be considered or claimed to be an oldfag, last I checked proper formatting isn't exclusive to reddit, and what sense does it make to mock that and then turn around and use it yourself?

>>86001

>being raped to death with blunt objects

>They murdered and fucked animals

>They took pleasure in the suffering they inflicted

If you're going to strawman everyone who ever fucked a dog as performing the same actions as the worst people ever, you're completely insane. Like saying that everyone who ever had sex with a woman skinned them alive.

>>86028

>Again, it's not a universal deal.

>you're still gonna be shoulder to shoulder with degenerates who sexualize animals, get off to rape/gore, etc.

Really get's the noggin joggin.

>And even if you did somehow manage to get all of them to "leave" they would just gather together and continue doing what they were doing before.

What happens to them/their group after is no skin off my nose, though with what usually happens to them I'd certainly be happy to be on the outside of that group.

>however that doesn't remove the fact that what attracts people to anthros are it's animal specific qualities, physcally, and to some extent mentally

<Canine furries have a good sense of smell.

<Feline furries like fish.

<Etc. and etc.

Trifling stereotypes that most people (especially furries) forget, the only ones that seem to care are otherkin or those with the type of autism you only find on imageboards.

>I never cared to be considered or claimed to be an oldfag

You like to backpedal.

>last I checked proper formatting isn't exclusive to reddit

>This.

Is.

>Not.

Proper.

>Formatting.

You.

>Fucking.

Moron.

>and then turn around and use it yourself?

Previously my replies weren't big enough to really justify it and/or had a picture to help break things up.

>>85941

They don't teach us why this should be logically bad in sex ed, or how to fight and stave off those urges before it is too late, nor do they offer therapy or counseling for the suspect (or should I say victim) to be. Realistically, if you wanted these people to stop you would at least make an attempt to help them, rather than sit there and let it run its course.

What I'm saying is that this "crime" is low priority on a massive list of shit that will destroy humanity.

>>86123

The number of kids getting "molested" and then told by society that they are sad weak pathetic victims for the rest of their life far pales in comparison to the number straight-up murdered or violently raped kids on the other side of the world. As usual, people are incapable of getting their priorities straight.

Or maybe they just think those children don't matter because they're brown?

>>86144

Exactly. People are only really upset because they can't think for themselves and that they've been brainwashed into thinking they are a victim, when in reality they are just a person who got to experience sex before anyone else. I think people are juat jealous because they are in their 40's not getting laid and yet kids are scoring.

I'm sure that skin color is 90% of it haha.

>>86110

>So we're just ignoring context now?

Still ain't getting it I see, reread >>85935 it's about as condensed and blatant as I can get oh mighty context wizard.

<Dragoneer dindunuffin.

<If you eject turbo degenerates it causes Anitfa and Nazis to form.

<Nothing is gonna get better so don't even try.

Hop yourself into that grave.

>namefagging

>sage

I think this highlights the issue here well enough.

&b from life, do not pass go, do not collect 200$ lmao. deserved. cant go around fucking 13yos and expect to get away with it, faggot.

>>86212

There is nothing logically wrong with getting intimate with a 13 year old, it's not like the kid isn't enjoying it. Even if he wasn't enjoying it, how would that be different than an escort?

>>86212

You're totally right. In fact, if a 13-year-old masturbates they are abusing themselves and should be imprisoned for it.

>>86233

its law it will never chamge pedophillia and hebe will nrver be legal sick fuck.

>>86263 its because the poster is so demeted he cant seperate fact from reality concerning an illegal topic, I hope hes a furry like TayFerret or Roketsune or anyone whos a hebephile in the fandom gets arrested soon they post the threat, as much as they lie and say there non contact they just use it as a front. furry pedophiles are impulsive digusting creatures who cant control themselves and use conventions as hookup spots to invite underage teens there and record them, its hard to seperate a teen from a twink but I can bet you theres a ton of fake IDS use at conventions. because of this tiny little incidents cons should be checking ids of everyone whos on the party floor and doing room checks more frequently/ of hotels where congoers are at, as should police be doing NIT/ surveillance of where everyone attention the convention is as to ensnare and stop this shit in its tracks.

>>86263

Calling loving sex between two partners (that agree to have sex) rape... Lol, you must be one of those types that would have supported slavery because it was legal.

>>86265

You can't really stop love, why not just let it happen and leave the lovers alone?

Mixing law with love tends to lead to sour results: like dead kids, roofies, and accidental chloroform deaths.

>>86263

But ALL sex that a child has is a type of "rape". Why does it matter whether his dick is being rubbed by himself or an adult?

What if the adult holds his hand but doesn't directly touch his dick?

What if he just tells the kid how to do it?

What if he builds and programs a robotic jerking-off machine, and gives it to the kid?

How far away do you have to get before it's not "rape" anymore?

why are there so many pedo defenders in this thread. in the US sex with a child is ILLEGAL. theres never going to be an overturn of the law, so either learn to live with the fact that you'll be a virgin forever.

>>86303

Homosexuality was illegal, and now they can marry.

>>86309

no thats not the answer at all, I asked why there are so many pedophiles. also i was told today that straight pedophiles are seen as less of a risk and homosexual pedophiles are seen as more of a risk. which is fucked up its all pedophillia its alll illegal anyone who engages in it within the fandom and trys to entice anyone or is currently banging anyone under 18 should be sent to jail doesnt matter if there just born or 17 its all digusting.

also in response to your homophobic comment i find it appling that a grown man harbors such hatrid for adults but yet sees no harm in molesting children with half the mental capacity as them, sick, go die in a fire.

>>84626

Sex is for procreation and bonding between a man and his wife

>>86310

>doesnt matter if there just born or 17 its all digusting

You're clearly not a rational person. Also, it would surely be rape if I fucked you, because you have less than half my mental capacity. Funny how that works.

>>86317

half the mental capacity for what? not supporting pedophillia? retard.

>>86316

humans and dolphins and chimpanzees and a few dozen other species do it for recreation. if recreational sex didn't exist then porn wouldnt exist, your argument is flawed and invalid.

>>86316

edit: porn is probably all you jack off to.

>>86310

Obviously you are just salty because someone you know was molested, or because your parents or a dumb authority figure who doesn't question injustice was retarded and they told you it was wrong without looking into why it would be wrong, and you blindly took their word for it that pleasure between an adult and a kid is somehow worse than death itself???

I get it, you find are butthurt that a kid is having a nice loving relationship and getting laid, whereas you are going to die a virgin. It honestly isn't society's place to determine love and attraction, it is genetics and nature.

I don't know what magic makes a person an adult over the span of one day (age 17 to age 18), but I can tell you that it takes like 12 years to grow hair in certain parts of your body. Which is pretty much natures way of saying that you are mature.

You haven't matured enough to understand logic and empathy so realistically you are a child mentally. Which makes sense because if they changed the laws to allow different maturities, rather than ages, to consent, your ass is going to die with blue balls.

>>86323

illegal is illegal. stop justifying pedophilla and hebephilla

>>86323

i have an adult relationship with an over 18 male and we have regular sex, thanks for telling me ill die with blueballs, people who make comments like you do put there insecurities first.

ps;

Pedophillia will never be legal, hope your pedofurfag friend rots in jail.

>>86310

What about child prodigies or a young savant with multiple times a grown adult's mental capacity?

Why can't we have sex with those kids huh?

>>86324

You could get legal versions of heroin online. Legalities don't make things right or wrong, they are just a way to control masses of people to do your bidding. By not standing up for injustice we let bullshit laws falsely imprison people like lavadog. I hope the key to reviving you from your ass cancer induced coma lies within his paws but he cant save you because he is in jail for a petty crime.

>>86325

Oh, so ur just picking and choosing what laws are right based off of what turns you on...

The biggest mistake society has made is allowing people like you to vote. No logic used at all, only emotional autistic screeching based off of how YOU feel, and not off of what THEY deserve.

>>86328

your right i dont vote. i dont even support this company. i quitely work a job, pay my taxes and have awesome legal sex with my legal aged adult boyfriend.

your move, liberal.

>>86327

pedophilla and raping a child is a petty crime?

>>86326

the law defines sex with ALL children regardless of mental capacity perpetrated by someone over the age of 18 or atleast 4 or more years older or something as illegal. do not pass go you will be tried as an adult for pedophilia/ hebephillia and assault of a minor under 18 if younger assault of a child under the age of 13.

>>86331

Thank you for not voting :)

Also have fun with your boyfriend. It may be quite some time before everyone can enjoy the right to love legally. Until then we'll have to settle for constant shootings and hate.

>>86332

There are no visible injuries, not loss of property, the act itself will not affect the kids life drastically. It sounds like the kid has taken less physical damage than the average bar brawl, forgive me if I can't see how it isn't petty.

>>86333

So having sex with a 17 year old and a 1 year old are pretty much the same thing...

I mean that it what the law implies.

>>86331

>and have awesome legal sex with my legal aged adult boyfriend

What are you going to do if Trump (or whoever is in charge of whatever country you're in) makes homosexuality illegal again? In most countries you're only removed from that reality by a few decades. Are you suddenly going to realize that you're a horrible perverted sodomite, dump your boyfriend, and never look at gay porn ever again because it's illegal?

Because if not, you're a retard and a hypocrite and still defining morality by whatever YOU like instead of rationality.

>>86381

>Far enough away that it isn't considered a sexual act by common definition

Except this is false. If you merely give porn to a child, that's illegal. If you describe to them how to masturbate, that's illegal. Children are taught from a young age that their genitals are icky and nasty, nobody else except a doctor should ever look at them, they shouldn't touch them except when using the bathroom, and that any interpersonal sexual activity is "wrong". Then they wonder why everyone has sexual hangups, when they grow up and instinctively recoil from their own genitals and those of others.

If anything is abusing children and warping their fragile little minds, it's this idiotic Puritan bullshit.

>>86381

See that's where we have a problem, you have no idea what children know. I didn't know what a vagina was until I was in my early twenties, and as we grow smarter as a race the youth will become more sexually experienced naturally. A clueless immature adult shouldn't be penalized when lured in by a deviant kid, especially when the adult doesn't understand the rammifications of their actions and how to prevent the situation in the heat of the moment. They don't even have an elementary guide to what to do if you feel attraction to minors, or a way to stave off urges until it's too late. Unfortunately for Lavadog it was too late and he fell victim to an unfair system designed to torture those who can't fit in.

U18chan's cub board is full of pedo fag niggers.

>>86452

Hey woah!!! No need to use the "P" word man.

anyone who supports pedophillia here is a sick individual and needs to have sex with a real adult to shake them of whatever mental illness they have with an attraction to children. anyone can be sexually and mentally reconditions. its called training, otherwise the entire human race would be a bunch of retarded blobs unable of thought.

the problem is not that pedophiles need to change, its that if they WANT to change and they DONT want to change and play the blame game like typical pedophiles do and call it a giant conspiracy.

it not a conspiracy, children dont ask for sexual intercourse children want to have a life and do children things not have some wierd middle aged furfag in a wierd fursuit whip out there dick and go hey little boy suck on my chode, talk about trauma seeing how an adult penis is like a cydesdale cock to someone much smaller. yeah legal aged twink porn exists but even they train for that and porn is a fake fantasty anyways.

thats all pedophiles live in is a fantasy and feel safe behind a keyboard till the police come kicking in there door and they cry like the children they abuse.

>>86471

>and needs to have sex with a real adult to shake them of whatever mental illness they have.

You're not gonna fix em the only solutions are life imprisonment or death.

>otherwise the entire human race would be a bunch of retarded blobs unable of thought.

No it's natural selection at work, the defectives don't reproduce while the healthy portion does.

>>86471

>anyone can be sexually and mentally reconditions. its called training

Okay, big guy. If you're so sure about this, I want you to train yourself to be sexually attracted to horse shit to prove how easy it is. Big steaming clumps of freshly-dropped horse shit. Make sure to tell us how it goes!

>>86495

>No it's natural selection at work, the defectives don't reproduce while the healthy portion does

Then how come pedophiles have existed since the dawn of humanity, and continue to?

>>86495

Or... You could just let it happen. It pretty much doesn't hurt anyone, especially if the kid wants it. I mean they may feel a pinch, but that's it. This false mental trauma bullcrap has gotta stop. At no age does receiving a bj suck for anyone.

>>86519

Children can't understand the complexities of mental and physical trauma that will be caused by joining the military too young, but the military drafts kids too.

>>86519

What makes you think a 16 year old (in a place where 16 is an adult) will know better than a 17 year old "minor"?

>>86521

What military drafts "kids"?

>>86522

Since I, and pretty much the rest of the world don't consider 16 year olds "kids" I don't think they'd know better, either way that's irrelevant seeing how my point was never arguing AOC laws with teens.

>>84447

Abnormal sexual fetish not somehow related with his other abnormal sexual fetish.

Wearing glasses isn't usually a sexual fetish.

>>86519

Look, buddy. Just because YOU managed to get all the way to high school before figuring out what your dick is for doesn't mean all children are that stupid and ignorant.

Especially nowadays with the internet, kids in kindergarten CAN and DO find out what sex is. As for "understanding"; what's to understand?? You rub your genitals against someone else's and it feels really good. It's not goddamn rocket science (and there are kids that understand rocket science and attend college, too; so either way you're wrong).

>>86523

The U.S. military for one drafts 17 year olds.

You may not consider a 17-year old a child, but the law pretty much does. Don't believe me, try to have sex with a 17 year old, post the proof online, and observe the shitstorm that ensues.

If we weren't meant to yiff kids, 12 year olds wouldn't be able to get pregnant, unless... Evolution is too much for you to comprehend.

>>86548

he should post the proof online and get arrested so theres one less idiot in the world.

>>86548

you can also have sex with your mom just because you can have sex with something doesnt mean its right, legal or safe from immorality and rape laws, children do not ask for your cock and the ones that do the horny little slutty thing when there underage dont really know what there doing. kids are smart but there not that smart. stop giving your pedophilia self credit and once again justification to fuck something that otherwise did not explicitly ask for your penis unless conditions to do so.

dont see why you cant let them have sex with someone their own age but you having sex with them. come on man go get someone your own age you sicko.

>>86551

>for the rare outliers that do want to "mess around", they'll do so with their peers.

Just chiming in, I was attracted to 50 year old men when I was 9. It makes your point invalid.

>>86563

That's what we call outliers, son, cause a good majority of small boys aren't full blown gay either.

>>86577

That's not going to help your cause in the slightest. In fact the less vocal we are about it, the more likely it is to be prevented.

Is it that hard for you all to comprehend the fact that...maybe you shouldn't fuck kids. I get the whole "oh 18 years old is an arbitrary age because if I fuck a 18 year old it's fine but a 17 year old is bad and that's dumb" argument but that argument would work for almost any number legislatures picked. It's suggested that brains don't reach full "maturity" until 25, but I bet there'd be an even larger ruckus if that was the cutoff age. In short, what I'm trying to say is that kids will probably know what sex is, I'd say on average from 12 and up, but they're still naive in knowing what a relationship is, or understanding the repercussions of getting someone pregnant. They got a lot to learn and it shouldn't be an adult's right to shove all that shit into them at once.

S A N D N I G G E R S R A P E C H I L D R E N.

>>86583

Are you sure? My current cause is ridding the world of one less troglodyte who uses sophomoric zingers to justify wanting to pork children. So if they follow those directions I'm fairly certain it'll do my cause well.

>>86538

>some adult creep trying to take advantage of your innocence and naivety

Oh yes, because children totally never take advantage of each other, amirite? Move the goalposts as much as you like, but there are only two options for you: either it's okay for children to experience sex, or it's not okay. Who they experience it with is irrelevant because intent is irrelevant, and the intent is often going to be the same for the kids anyway.

>>86551

>He thinks only "rare outlier" children want any kind of sex at all, even with other kids

Oh look, someone else who didn't discover his dick until high school and thinks that's normal.

>>86602

man thanks for condensing what I said earlier.

>>86597

thanks for condensing what I was trying to say earlier.

>>86597

>an adult taking advantage of a child to fulfill their selfish sexual desires is wrong

Why? Because it's apparently okay for a child to take advantage of a child to fulfill their selfish sexual desires. Or do you think children sexually experiment for some other reason than because they have sexual desires?? Because that happens all the damn time! Aside from that, why does intent matter? Unless the adult specifically tells the kid "Hey, I'm only having sex with you because I want to; I don't even care if you enjoy it." it's impossible for them to know they're "being taken advantage of" in the first place. You're the one who claims that children are dumb as rocks and can't understand anything, so in that case all they would understand is that it's fun and feels good.

>It's a rare outlier for children, on their own, without any outside influences dictating/encouraging specific actions, to want to instantly jump to sex

You ACTUALLY THINK that children don't discover their genitals or think about the genitals of others until their late teens. Are you fucking serious??

>>86602

>Everyone who enters a sexual relationship with selfish desires is a sexual predator

Mother of Christ, I'm surrounded by virgins.

>>86614

>Why? Because it's apparently okay for a child to take advantage of a child to fulfill their selfish sexual desires.

Again no, no it's not. But at the very, VERY least you can argue that in the case of a child doing something it was some degree of legitimately ignorance/poor impulse control, not that it excuses it or makes it right, but it's a somewhat reasonable explanation, a grown adult doesn't have that excuse because they're not a naive, ignorant, easily swayed child, they're a predator taking advantage of said vulnerable qualities in order to get their rocks off.

> Or do you think children sexually experiment for some other reason than because they have sexual desires?

Experimenting and fucking some random grown stranger are two COMPLETELY different situations. One's personal and usually a means of self discovery, the other's a selfish need to satisfy one's own desires.

>Aside from that, why does intent matter?

>Unless the adult specifically tells the kid "Hey, I'm only having sex with you because I want to; I don't even care if you enjoy it." it's impossible for them to know they're "being taken advantage of" in the first place.

You basically spelled it out right there, you're trying to take advantage of their naive, ignorant nature and poor sense of judgement because it's easy and "you can". (You) would be THE LAST choice ANY child would make should they actually be sexually active and looking for a partner, as a result someone like you would slowly groom and manipulate them into choosing you instead, playing on said naivety and poor judgement skills, if not just outright forcing them into it while you convince yourself "they'll like it eventually".

>You ACTUALLY THINK that children don't discover their genitals or think about the genitals of others until their late teens. Are you fucking serious??

When did I ever state that? No shit kids discover their genitals before then, however, again, without the specific outside influence of people with specific goals in mind coursing/encouraging/dictating specific acts they should commit, the first instinct isn't going to be "go have sex with some random grown man." Just because someone fiddled your diddle as a child and as a result/coping mechanism you convinced yourself is was a harmless experience, and formed a gay need for grown man cock doesn't mean that's basic human nature and/or something every child can/should experience.

>Mother of Christ, I'm surrounded by virgins.

No, you're surrounded by rational humans who don't preform world record showings of mental gymnastics to justify a need to specifically have sex with a child. The fact that I have to be lumped in with and associated with subhuman fucks like you...

>>86587

Do you have kids? If not, then why the fuck is it any of your business you sjw.

If so, then raise them to make their own decisions and dont let the internet raise them, or else risk your kid being more sexually experienced than you.

>>86585

> kids don't understand the repercussions of getting pregnant.

That's... What schools are supposed to be for. Learning.

>brain matures at age 25

People die before they are 18. It sucks more than anything to die a virgin. If anything we shouldn't let anyone die a virgin, it's just cruel.

>>86642

>It's okay to fuck underage because virgins are losers and no one wants to be one.

Here's a tip- losing your virginity is something that only decreases your potential worth to potential sexual partners, and it does nothing to improve your life in any appreciable way except making shallow-minded people pay attention to you for a day or two longer before they inevitably move on to the next clique. So for fuck's sake, if you need that kind of validation to continue living- at least keep it to consenting adults.

>>86640

>Do you have kids?

No, but I teach them, so when a potential predator's talking about praying on children it's entirely my business.

>>86618

>Sex is nasty and wrong and nobody should be doing it, we just excuse kids because we recognize they are ignorant and have no self-control

This is what you sound like. You've been brainwashed by your retarded culture to believe sex is the magical sacred adult thing that's Serious Business. Replace "sex" with "tasty food", and you can see how absurd that is.

It's also ridiculous how you claim to speak for the children like some bizarre pedophile Lorax. Why are you the authority on who children do or do not want to have sex with?? It's been a staple trope for GENERATIONS that kids get crushes on teachers and MILFs and stuff like that and literally all of them fap to porn of adults because porn of children is KINDA VERY ILLEGAL! And then all of a sudden you come along and declare that no child ever wants to have sex with adults...?

Who the fuck do you think you are?

>>86656

>I enjoyed getting diddled when I was younger, therefore it's an innate trait that everyone shares, they just don't know it till they try it, and I specifically should be the one to show them, regardless of what any legal guardians or laws say otherwise, my libido takes priority.

And that's what you sound like, a deluded victim turned predator using a twisted coping mechanism for past experiences to justify preforming the same act on others.

>It's also ridiculous how you claim to speak for the children like some bizarre pedophile Lorax.

When you work with children for a living child psychology's something you pick up and grow to understand over time, they're not all that complex.

>And then all of a sudden you come along and declare that no child ever wants to have sex with adults...?

Reread what I've been saying multiple times dumbass, no child wants to have "one and done" sexual relations with some RANDOM CREEP looking to take advantage of them, ie people like you. Teachers, celebrities, etc are "idols", people they look up too, admire, trust, "idolize/romanticize", etc. A person like you doesn't fall into any of those categories, you're the type that would join dozens upon hundreds of video/text chats in the hopes of getting a child so you can send them money/gifts to get them to do what you ask, in other words a parasitic sexual deviant looking to take advantage of kids to get his rocks off, nothing more, much less.

>Who the fuck do you think you are?

Again, a rational human who doesn't preform world record showings of mental gymnastics to justify a need to have sex with children.

>>86657

you keep responding back to this person and its more and more clear hes just a selfish, parasitic pedophile deviant looking for nothing but a quick fuck.

hes the type if he liked adults to have constant one night stands with anything due to his overhyper active sex drive.

not making excuses but he needs to be orgasmic-lly reconditioned to like adults.

also the person who keeps posting sounds like hed be that furry named TayFerret whos an open pedophile on inkbunny FA telegram sofurry and has his own webpage, he even coded his game to have an error log packet to snip every bit of information about a potential childs computer. gusing it under "i made this zebra pokemon error if you make it cum enough, send me your logs, kids" I think.

>>86647

Then tell those kids how to say no when they don't want it. Simple.

The choice to follow their heart is their own, any more brainwashing and you are going to end up traumatizing them. I get that you love children, but pedos do too, it is unempathetic and monstrous to equate all pedophiles as rapists.

Adults who mask themselves with cute cartoon animals. Isn't that just asking to attract children?

>>86693

>The choice to follow their heart is their own, any more brainwashing and you are going to end up traumatizing them.

When they're on their own and fully independent, of course. Until then the choice of what happens to/with a child's body, ESPECIALLY with another person, and even more so with a grown adult lies with the parent and/or guardian, they're not, and in most every case can't be independent, therefore their overall well being falls in the hands of said guardians. You'll be hard pressed to find any that are willing to hand their child over to some random creep so he can get his rocks off with them.

>I get that you love children, but pedos do too, it is unsympathetic and monstrous to equate all pedophiles as rapists.

Don't even attempt to put me in the same field as you, I care for their well being and safety, you care about their bodies and fulfilling your own depraved sexual urges. Praying on the weak and easily manipulated is the calling card of a predator/rapist, so yes, monsters like you deserved to be called out as and treated as such, because that's exactly what you are.

>>86657

>no child wants to have "one and done" sexual relations with some RANDOM CREEP looking to take advantage of them, ie people like you. Teachers, celebrities, etc are "idols", people they look up too, admire, trust, "idolize/romanticize", etc.

Wait so, just wondering now. Are you saying then that it’s then okay if it’s one of those “idols” you mention, and the kid wants to enter a steady relationship, including sex (hence not a “one and done” thing)?

>>86614

<Everyone who enters a sexual relationship with selfish desires is a sexual predator.

Despite your shitposting, that is a mark of sexual predators.

>>86640

>You can't care about something unless you got directly fucked over by it.

QUALITY thought processes you got there.

>>86708

No, he's giving your "argument" prosthetics so he actually has something to pummel.

>>86694

thats kinda been the point of Inkbunny. and all the yiff art, it attracts teenagers i know that for a fact because theres tons of teen furries on telegram and on furaffinity that post as being 18 and dragoneer only bans the stupid ones that are open about it, but yet had been outed a while ago for fucking around with a 16yo themselves.

so really the fandom itself has double priorities. its bad if someone else does it but if you commit a crime its boohoo and bawwwww 365 and everyones being mean to you.

ALSO following all the crying is, PLS GI B ME DONATIONS THE MEANIE FURRIES TOOK MY INCOME BAWWW.

>y-you friends wont think im a total pedo will you - says everyone outed ever.

-DarkShadowFox.

>>86657

Okay, so basically your argument is that children don't want sex with me, personally, (despite you having no idea who I am, but whatever) but might want to have sex with other adults who they idolize and who might want to have a lasting relationship.

So pedophilia is TOTALLY OKAY, but only if it's more than a single encounter and if the adult in question is (I guess?) physically attractive and worthy of idolization by children (so a celebrity or something). Pedophilia is only not okay for random people on the internet.

>>86697

>You'll be hard pressed to find any that are willing to hand their child over to some random creep

Wow, you're so ignorant it's almost adorable. This kind of shit happens all the time, especially in the third world where they prostitute them or outright sell them into sex-slavery. Almost every time you hear about pedophile "sex rings", even in America, the parents of the children knew about it and were complacent, or were even involved. The creep in the white panel van is a strawman and a meme; the vast majority of children getting sexually abused is at the hands of family members. And why wouldn't they be? Successfully breeding is something even cockroaches can do. There's nothing that forces parents to give a fuck about their children or protect them beyond societal mores and a thin patina of biological impetuous that is easily ignored.

>>86710

>that is a mark of sexual predators

You're severely overblowing the "selfish" thing. MOST PEOPLE enter relationships expecting to get equal or more out of it than they put into it, which is literally selfish behavior. Being selfish is NORMAL!

>>86717

>Teens like pornography, what a shock!

As a general rule, kids (and especially teens) are sexually attracted to adults and depictions thereof, not children. So them being attracted to a site that specializes in cub doesn't bear out in reality. They would be more likely to go to FA just because it's more exposed.

>>86708

No, regardless of the circumstances it's still an adult taking advantage of a child. A child can't grasp the concept of a relationship, what they feel are chemicals in their brain, that chemical high doesn't last forever, which is why it's immoral/a crime to take advantage of that.

>>86731

>So pedophilia is TOTALLY OKAY, but only if it's more than a single encounter and if the adult in question is (I guess?) physically attractive and worthy of idolization by children (so a celebrity or something). Pedophilia is only not okay for random people on the internet.

Far from it, It's wrong regardless for the reason explained here >>86733, the scenario you keep blatheing about, however, only plays out that way under those circumstances, not that it's right under said circumstances. And no, I don't know what you look like, but you're a furfag lurking on 8chins talking about your desires to pork a child, safe to say you're a 250+ lbs hairy, greasy creep.

>This kind of shit happens all the time, especially in the third world where they prostitute them or outright sell them into sex-slavery.

Lucky for me I don't concern myself with third world hell holes I don't live in or around, I talk about and refer too people/children in ideal living conditions under ideal living standards, because lets be honest, you're not talking about preying on some random 3rd world/pedo ring prostitute, we wouldn't be having this conversation if you were, you're talking about preying on some ideal middle class girl.

haha i meant to tag my post as myself as -DarkShadowFox not as something i was quoted as saying. oops. with the > green text

>>86697

It's weird, for a teacher you seem to have no clue what pedophile even means, or the difference between pedophile and child molester. That is okay, as long as you are not an english teacher, or you may want to go back to school, or grab a dictionary and start moving those eyes.

I'm sorry that other people's mere existence offends you and that you can't just let things go. In the future when people don't have to live in fear of existing and cursing their creator for making them the way they are, perhaps we can all live in peace. Until then feel free to play the villain supporting violence over love.

>>86710

You're not caring, you're taking offense to it. Caring would be trying to help pedos fight their desire and openly supporting them in their path to abstinence and the future safety of children, not "ewww that's fuckin gross, pedos need to be hanged who cares about ths kids amirite? Schools get shot up monthly now... Guns are still legal... *turns the other cheek* violence is okay tho, love that I find gross is not."-you

>>86739

stop justifying pedophillia and hebephillia and assault on children who do not want adults having sex with them.

>>86741

stop justifying like i said below pedophillia to kids who do not want to have sex with adults and just be kids. pick on someone your own size.

>>86739

I'm well aware of the difference, are you? A pedophile is simply one who has an attraction to children, once you step that up and start planning to/have vivid thoughts of assaulting a child, you become a child predator.

>I'm sorry that other people's mere existence offends you and that you can't just let things go.

When said person's existence is a potential threat to others, it's not a "personal offense", it's a general problem that needs to be dealt with. I personally couldn't give two shits if you're attracted to children. I don't approve, but then again I also don't approve of those who get off to actual torture, murder, rape, and other depraved taboos, and it's not as if I can really do anything concrete about the thoughts that run through random peoples heads. So, like I feel about them, so long as it stays in your head, your pants, and to yourself, I don't care, still don't approve and find it reprehensible, but ultimately don't care. It's when you start openly sharing your fantasies and intentions to "do it for real" that I and others'll take issue and treat you like the threat you're making yourself out to be.

This isn't a progressive hugbox, if you came here expecting it to be a support group for any and all taboos under the sun, you came to the wrong place.

>>86758

>I don't approve

...of what? Nature? You can't choose your attractions, it's just like being gay.

>>86758

I wasn't looking for a hugbox, I was looking for justice or equality in a world where apparently violence is somehow okay when love isn't.

>>86758

>I'm well aware of the difference, are you? A pedophile is simply one who has an attraction to children

What did someone who has an attraction to kids even do wrong?

>assault

Who said anything about harming them? We're talking about kids coming onto pedos and pedos reciprocating.

>>86761 (samefag)

>...of what?

Of acting on carnal desires that go against the wishes of certain individuals (the parents and/or guardians of the children) and the greater whole of society. Whether or not we choose our attractions is irrelevant to our ability to not act on them.

>>86762 (samefag)

> wasn't looking for a hugbox, I was looking for justice or equality in a world where apparently violence is somehow okay when love isn't.

>Justice

"Justice" isn't giving you free reins to pork a child in order to satisfy your libido, and if you truly think that's a right you deserve to be afforded just because you feel that way, you're delusional.

>>86763 (seriously, why did it require three separate posts?)

>What did someone who has an attraction to kids even do wrong?

If you kept reading it goes over the type of person you are and what you're doing/going to do wrong.

>Who said anything about harming them We're talking about kids coming onto pedos and pedos reciprocating.

And what the hell is that but harm? As unlikely as it is, lets say there's some hypothetical scenario where a child DOES come onto a pedo. You act as if children have a grasp or understanding of the concept of love or relationships (the main factors that drives one, especially younger people, to want to have sex), they don't, for them it's simply a release of chemicals in the brain, so to take advantage of someone, ESPECIALLY a child under the influence of a chemical high is harming them, because at some point, like with any other high, they aren't in a state of mind to make proper, long lasting decisions, and once it wares off, 9/10 they're going to regret what they did/what was done to them. If openly taking advantage of that kind of scenario is considered assault/rape for adults, it's sure as FUCK considered rape/assault for children.

>But I don't care about relationships, and neither does this hypothetical child, they're just a turbo slut that puts out for anyone because they "wanna have fun/feel good" and I do too.

Well I guess it's a good thing we're talking about a hypothetical child, cause they don't exist, especially not those that aren't already victims of sexual abuse.

>>86764

>If you kept reading it goes over the type of person you are and what you're doing/going to do wrong.

That's stereotyping. Only a handul of pedos end up having sex. What they are doing wrong is what they are programmed to do. You can't change that yet.

>ESPECIALLY a child under the influence of a chemical high

We are all under the influence of chemical highs at all times, if you are not, then you probably need to be on medication to be functional.

Rape and assault are just trigger words. You could easily call sex between an adult and minor an intimate connection, or love expression. See how the other side feels about manipulating words to suit your political agenda?

>>86767

>Luckily we can get rid of it once they act and make themselves known.

Good idea, let's use kids as bait and show how much we care.

>No, we're not, especially not the kind hormones and feelings of lust induce.

Still have catecholamines and other mood altering chemicals floating around in us.

>under the influence

As if adults arent under the influence when they agree to give away half their stuff in holy matrimony.

>but seriously, neck yourself anon. There's dense, there's delusional, and then there's you, you're beyond redemption or help, you're a bomb waiting to go off, do society a favor and spare it one less shitstain wanting to prey on kids

Pretty heavy for a teacher to tell someone to kill themself, sounds like you have some anger issues you may need to work on before surrounding yourself by children.

Btw, students and children you know can be pedophiles too, would you be able to sleep at night after telling them to off themselves?

>>86770

>Good idea, let's use kids as bait and show how much we care.

So you consider yourself one of those criminals "taking the bait"? Cause people like you are who i'm referring too when you try to "have an intimate and loving relationship" with a child. I prefer that never happen, you're the one talking about doing it.

>As if adults arent under the influence when they agree to give away half their stuff in holy matrimony.

Marriage isn't a split second decision that's over and done by the time a mental high wears off, that requires just a BIT more planning and thought, not to mention money. Regardless, that's neither an excuse or justification for you to screw kids.

>Pretty heavy for a teacher to tell someone to kill themself

You're an adult, I don't need to handle people like you with "kid gloves", nor do you warrant that sort of sensitivity given your intentions and the sheer ignorance surrounding it.

>Btw, students and children you know can be pedophiles too, would you be able to sleep at night after telling them to off themselves?

Pretty sure an underage kid liking another underage kid around their age doesn't legally or logically make them a "pedophile", but if they were to grow up, harbor those sorts of feelings, want to commit sexual acts against kids, and hear me say something like that, I'd sleep like a fucking baby, they're failures as humans and dead to me at that point.

>>86735

>His entire argument is based on strawmans

>He strawmans me so hard he thinks I'm into girls

Okay, we're done here. You can go ahead and continue arguing with the wall or your own reflection. Have fun, retard.

>>86758

>When said person's existence is a potential threat to others

What about you being a potential threat to those you claim are a potential threat? Or is that okay because vigilantism is totally justified if it's against "bad guys". The problem is you're still pretending as if your morality is actually rationality. And continuing to say you "don't care" is hilarious when you took great pains to explain in detail exactly how much you care and how offended you are.

>>86764

>Children can't grasp love

Okay, big guy. You be sure to tell the next new parents you meet that their child won't be able to love them until they turn 18 and the Magical Fairy Godmother blesses them with Love Dust.

>Feeling pleasure is a chemical high

Also be sure to tell them that whenever they feed their kid tasty foods that they are making the kid get high.

>9/10 they're going to regret what they did/what was done to them

[citation needed]

>>86782

>Points and counter points up to this point have been nothing but excuses for why you should be able to fuck children at your leisure

>Falls back on "m-muh strawmans" when your reasoning can't evolve past "I liked it when it happened to me, they will too." and people are pointing that out.

Indeed we're done, once you pull the equivalent of the "did you assume my gender" card to disregard critical views, you really have nothing else to say, and frankly I'm getting sick of hearing this marry go round of excuses from delusional pedophiles/child predators.

>What about you being a potential threat to those you claim are a potential threat? Or is that okay because vigilantism is totally justified if it's against "bad guys".

Once you proclaim your plan/need to harm others for your own sexual gratification, you don't get to hind behind shields like that.

>The problem is you're still pretending as if your morality is actually rationality.

When is it ever NOT rational to stop someone from harming and taking advantage of another individual? Your delusions about how much you assume they'll "want it" when they apparently "come on to you" aren't an excuse.

>Okay, big guy. You be sure to tell the next new parents you meet that their child won't be able to love them until they turn 18 and the Magical Fairy Godmother blesses them with Love Dust.

We've gone over this dumbass, late teenagers and 17 year, 11 month, 30 day olds aren't "children", they're young adults, 0-12 are children, those are who I've always been referring too, and THOSE individuals indeed can't grasp the concept of love.

>Also be sure to tell them that whenever they feed their kid tasty foods that they are making the kid get high.

Reread what I wrote, the whole thing this time, the "chemical high" itself isn't inherently a/the issue, it's taking advantage of said state in order to get the individual to do things they otherwise wouldn't.

>[citation needed]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNRZljysn6o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hR0bXZrIErE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OoBhySK3JA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjx61ED9y3M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE9dwAr7CUE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJ772GvPi_I

To name a few

>T-that doesn't mean they'll ALL dislike it

Sure, that's why I said 9/10, but that doesn't lend you justification in chumming the waters to find that 1/10

>>86782

merry go round*

Figure I'll fix that typo now before you try latching onto that to go on another "point discarded" tangent.

And one more thing

>And continuing to say you "don't care" is hilarious when you took great pains to explain in detail exactly how much you care and how offended you are.

I said that line once, that's hardly a "continuing" point. And, again, if you actually read the whole thing, you would see that I said I don't care about the baseline attraction aspect, I disapprove, but at the end of the day I can no sooner get rid of those feelings as I can with people wanting to rape, murder, etc. It's when someone steps it up by detailing their interest in "doing it for real" and accompanying that with delusions of how "it's fine", "what's the big deal", "they'll like it too" that I and others take issue, because now there's a potential for something to actually happen.

>Y-you're comparing me to murders and rapists now?

Statutory rape aside, inherently no, it's an expression to show the fruitlessness of trying to dictate the taboo thoughts that run through a person's head, not that I feel they're all morally the same.

>>86794

>I disapprove

You literally are cursing the powers that be with that. They were made that way and you disagree with whatever made them. If you don't like this reality's design... There's the door. *opens door*

I feel that we should all just come to a compromise, like to let kissing, dating, holding hands, touching, oral, and sleepovers be legal for all ages, and anything further would require a parent's signature. If they are orphans it's fair game because it's equally the parents fault for not being there for them and society's fault for not adopting them.

See, no one gets phsyically hurt, and love prevails.

>>84432 (OP)

I wonder if we can get a big enough group of furries together to rally and get lavadog pardoned.

>>86800

HAHAHAHAH

>>86805

So you're not successful, you find others who are succeeding, and you try and make lose it all before they can help others.

Sore loser 101.

>>86814

what? no ones succeeding here. there going to jail you lose fuckface.

>>86814

was plenty successful, everything that was leaked was further backed up by the zoosadists leaked your whole communitys screwed bucko.

>>86814

and to add too, pedophilla will never be illegal in the united states as will child porn they will forever be illegal as will having sex being over 18 with someone whos under 18. you further lose, checkmate.

>>86818

*legal not illegal.

>>86818

Not sure how I lose from any of that, but ok.

I know pedophilia will always remain legal, it would be cruel to make it illegal. Rape (which is different) shouldn't be illegal, but forgiven and treated. CP will become legal if the average global intelligence rises, as with the sex. The murder of a kid should always be illegal and honestly should be your number 1 concern in this whole cycle as it is an obvious outcome due to the illegality.

>>86817

I don't know what the furry community did to you as a whole to warrant it's destruction, I'm truly sorry for you I really am.

>>86793

>Everything you say is because you want to fuck children, waaaahhhh!

If I say you're using nothing but strawman arguments, it's because THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

>0-12 are children, and THOSE individuals indeed can't grasp the concept of love

I was kind of taking the piss out of you with that comment, as well as a dash of reductio ad absurdum, but you ACTUALLY BELIEVE that children are incapable of love. It's mind-boggling.

You are a COMPLETE and TOTAL retard. End of story.

>>86856

>If I say you're using nothing but strawman arguments, it's because THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

How is it a "strawman" when quite literally everything you've argued up to this point has been varying excuses for why it's "no big deal" if you have sexual relations with a child?

>I was kind of taking the piss out of you with that comment

>Lol, jokes on them, I was only pretending to be stupid!

It's not 2006 anon, no one thinks that's a valid comeback anymore

>but you ACTUALLY BELIEVE that children are incapable of love.

How quickly we forget, or just ignore things for a quick "lol, ur dumb and your argument's invalid" zinger. Never did I state children were "incapable of love" I said they don't understand it, especially not in the sense you're presenting it.

The only retard here is you anon, although I'm pretty stupid myself for wasting as much time as I have arguing in circles with two delusional pedophiles.

When you eventually get caught by the parents/guardians of the child you groom, or just flat out rape, and they don't end up killing you themselves, be sure to end it before you land in prison, I hear they don't take kindly to people like you there.

One reason this is such a contentious issue is that statutory rape is a made-up crime. It's considered bad and illegal because someone somewhere made the decision for all of us that you can't control your destiny until you reach a certain birthday.

Holding down a kid and penetrating his butthole while he cries and begs you to stop is a very different kind of assault than mutually expressing your affection with another human being who just happens to be legally incompetent. 18, 13, 14, whatever. The AoC is different all over the US and the rest of the world.

Most furries DO look like weirdo geek pedo basement dwellers. Most child rapists are awful people who get off on inflicting pain. But there are plain old decent people who get caught on the wrong side of idiotic laws, and what's depressing about it is that it could happen to any of us, and some of the idiots in this thread might be on the jury and more interested in your hobbies than the facts and evidence.

>>86866

^ This.

>>86866 (checked)

Gotta agree. I mean, the country of Bahrain set their age of consent at 21 years old. If a 21 year old has sex with a 20 year old, then he's committing "rape" according to them, which is ridiculous.

>>86884

Telling your partner to show their ID before sextimes is a sure way to keep your virginity. Sometimes though, people don't look their age either. You bring them back to your place and they say they are 18 but then surprise they are actually 6 years old.

>>86889

this sill never happen, I, ID everyone esp beforehand before we meet up to make sure im not getting catfished.

he fucking deserves it.

>>86945

No one deserves to be locked up in a cage swarming with predators, that's barbaric, how could you even say that?

>>86981

You're right, why waste money and space keeping these parasites alive? Just kill them.

>>86864

>Children don't understand love, so if their parents inflict love on them it's just as bad as a pedophile fucking them

You can't win this argument. You're just too fucking stupid.

>>86936

Because IDs can never be faked, amirite?

>>86988

There is no biological genesis to current AoC laws; it's purely sociologically created and most of it feeding off of the 20th century out-of-nowhere creation of teenagers/adolescents as a separate type of person, neither "child" nor "adult".

In centuries past, 13/14 year olds got married, had kids, went to war, and managed all the affairs of an adult life just fine. It's a reductio ad absurdum to claim that a toddler is an adult, but a teenager? Basically anyone over the age of ~12 is mentally competent enough to bear the responsibilities of adult life. People this age very often end up taking care of young siblings, even in the current day. The fact that they haven't yet learned goddamn algebra doesn't have any bearing on their ability to make decisions for themselves. As is patently obvious, the educational system we have DOES NOT teach any practical skills of being an adult even by the end of high school, so 19-year-olds are no more capable of managing their lives than they were when they were in middle school. And pinning 17 or 18 as the Age of Majority doesn't even work as a LOWER bound, because it's been proven that people's brains continue to measurably change into their 20's (and college kids are demonstrably still --- and excuse me as I pull out very scientific terminology here — extremely fucking stupid.

So either the AoM and AoC should be in the very young teens, or it should be around 25. Anything in the middle just makes no sense. The fact that high school exists doesn't determine biology or psychology.

>>86993

It's really quite astonishing how every one of your replies manages to completely miss the point of the quoted post you haphazerdly attempt to summerize. I guess years of lusting after children just makes your mind regress to their state.

>>86988

>>86993

>Locking predators up with predators is barbaric.

>Sure thing dumbass

>Children don't understand love, so if their parents inflict love on them it's just as bad as a pedophile fucking them

>You can't win this argument. You're just too fucking stupid

So... When confronted with good, yet opposing logic that you can't refute, you basically call the defendant names. Sounds like borderline mental retardation to me.

Just accept that you lost the argument and reflect on what the opposition said. There is a reason the law and churches protect pedophiles so heavily, because if left up to monsters of society, they would just kill them. Pedophilia > murder/torture.

Let me try your style of debating... Your stupid; luv wins GG.

>>87019

no actually all the pedophiles of the church are currently being outed.

love does not win. children do not want your sexual advances. GTFO tayferret supporter.

no child will ever want an adult to have sex with them non consentually and for such selfish reasons.

no argument you can make will ever support pedophillia because modern society does not want it. your time is up. this shit died in the 70s. move on.

so many countries have anti pedophillia laws, if it was such a massive movement and your so proud go start striking and having public petitions and marching in the streets about how you want to fuck children. you wont, you wanna know why because your a scared little keyboard warrior sicko whos too friendly and caste away from society to see how mentally digusting you are.

do you know why the pedophiles in churches get protected? because the fucking church is supposed to be a place of worship and safety for all ages. not a place for a horny pedophile priest to stick his dick into children who dont really want it.

groom and coerece them like the digusting freak they are into making them like it instead of them doing on there own.

and they wont.

children who are given sex ed and the birds and the bees talk immediatly go to there own peers or people 1 year or a few years above or below them.

there has been no proof outside of the grooming biased pedophillic propaganda that children willing want to have sex with adults without being coerced and pressured.

ps keep your digusting pro pedophillia shit off this board,

seek help and get some mental counseling you sick child molester.

-posted by DarkShadowFox.

>>87028

>DarkShadowFox

didn't you rape animals?

>>87029

no i stole zoophiles photos and posted them to lure out the zoophiles and out and leak them onto my twitter.

>>87007

It's really quite astonishing how you have literally no argument other than "durrr, kids are stoopid!"

>>87008

>Mincing semantics this hard over different types of love

>Implying that sociological changes also somehow changed biology

>Implying that sex is only for procreation and raising a family

>Implying that gay relationships are worse for no reason

>Straight-up saying that masturbation is an alternative to a relationship

Tell me something. How, exactly, is a child (and we're talking preteens and young teens, not toddlers; keep your retard brain at least slightly out of the gutter for once) incapable of understanding sexual relationships and "sexual love"? What about sex is so complicated that it requires things that are apparently learned in high school to grasp?

>>87019

>>87028

>All that screaming and bitching redditposting

I'm not even going to respond to this fucking mess.

>>87064

>Mincing semantics this hard over different types of love

It's not semantics to say there's a difference between parental love and lust driven love, it's a basic fact.

>Implying that sociological changes also somehow changed biology

I didn't, I did, however, explain why choices and decisions then vs now don't need to be the same, and why many were for the worse back then often only because there were few to no other viable options.

>Implying that sex is only for procreation and raising a family

Inherently, yes. Just because you can go beyond that for personal pleasure doesn't grant you the right to do so with those who can just barely serve those reproductive functions.

>Implying that gay relationships are worse for no reason

Homosexual relations with an underage individual don't have the excuse you were pushing with the "13-14 having sex/children" bit, therefore there's even less of a justification for it.

>Straight-up saying that masturbation is an alternative to a relationship

Really? "Straight up"? Cause I'm fairly certain my exact words were "For just wanting to "feel good" we/they have masturbation." The overall context has always been children, so clearly they're the focus, the "we" was included because it still applies to "us" as well. Try reading instead of skimming.

>and we're talking preteens and young teens

>keep your retard brain at least slightly out of the gutter for once

>This fucking pedophile's been rambling on about and making an oceans worth of excuses for diddling and having sex with children for over a week now, and he has the audacity to accuse someone else of "having their head in the gutter."

Is this supposed to be satire too? Or are you really, truly so deep in your own bullshit that you're actually this dense?

>Tell me something. How, exactly, is a child incapable of understanding sexual relationships and "sexual love"?

Simple, they have neither a true experience with it or a deeper understanding of it (ie why you want to/should be with that person outside of what the momentary lust/hormones flooding the brain are saying.) For children that young, they're just then feeling those feelings and experiencing those urges for the first time. A boy you meet with and start to pressure into sexual interactions isn't agreeing with you because he knows or understands what's going on and truly wants it, he's a naive child getting hits of dopamine he's never felt before, and like any other junkie, instinctually wants more of it to keep the high going, aka, an adult taking advantage of a naive child to satisfy their own desires, which is, again, the epitome of the issue.

With the passage of time they learn more, more about their bodies, those urges, how they work, etc, as well as feel and experience them more. Therefore, they have a more reasonable expectation to be able to make decisions regarding them. Obviously some are going to "get it" sooner than others, but that doesn't lend people like you validity to "go fishing" for those sorts of individuals among the others.

i like how pedophiles support child love and think its going to be legal and ok to sexually assault someone thats younger and weaker then them.

its pretty fucking disgusting. if you ask me.

-DarkShadowFox

>>87071

>they have neither a true experience with it or a deeper understanding of it

>They can't understand something because they don't understand it

This is circular logic and also a logical paradox. How could someone EVER understand something if they never experience it? By this logic an adult virgin is just as immature, and just as incapable of "understanding" sexual love, because they also have not experienced it.

So, different question: where (and more importantly: when) do adults gain this sudden understanding of sexual love?

>>87173

> By this logic an adult virgin is just as immature, and just as incapable of "understanding" sexual love, because they also have not experienced it.

>So, different question: where (and more importantly: when) do adults gain this sudden understanding of sexual love?

In addition to the aforementioned learning more gradually over the passage of time, they learn and gain a relative idea through various means of osmosis, whether it's reading about it, watching it, hearing about it, being taught, etc. The difference between a child (lets say 12-14) and an adult (17+), for the majority, in this case is that one's had far more time to learn about these things and gain a better grasp of it, and by extension the expectation to be able to make a better/proper decision when regarding it. While the other's either completely blind to it or just being introduced to the concepts for the first time. If I had to break it down with an analogy, you can't throw someone into an academy for a day/week or so and expect them to be as competent/knowledgeable/"ready" as someone who's been in for years just because both of them "had access to the same info".

>>87177

Different laws dictate different ages, which means that there really is no definite age. There can be 80 year olds who don't know what love is. You can also bang a really old retard and get away with that. How come child savants can tackle mentally mature situations and still be disregarded when it comes to love?

All I'm saying is that I'm against the hypocrisy of laws against love. If a pedo and kid are happy together leave them alone.

>>86778

Maybe in your state nothing happens but I hear about shootings weekly. Monthly I hear about a school shooting.

Let me get this straight, murder is okay but love isn't?

That IS what you're implying.

you guys do know that all this pro pedophilla argument is not going to legalize pedophillia or reduce this mans sentence.

>>87185

No. I mean savants. Kids that are smart enough to learn like 5 languages in a day, or correct einstein.

>>87192

Nor is it going to make it illegal to be a pedophile, force them out of hiding, or prevent them from doing it with kids.

>>87177

>Let's not teach children sex-ed until they are in middle school because sex is icky and terrible

>Wow, kids know nothing about sex until middle school!

Truly one of life's grandest mysteries.

But here's the rub. Because of the internet, kids learn about sex many years younger than they have in decades past. They know more about sex than most adults by the time they get to the fifth grade because that "academy" is freely available to them as soon as they can figure out how to type "dicks" into google.

So why doesn't this change how "ready" they are?

>>86778

People like you are certainly the worst kind of people. I'm sure you will "never be cured" as well so you should probably just be executed, or better yet, tortured until death. After all, that is what all people who think or act wrongly deserve, is it not?

>>87406

Pedo, hop your ass in the >>>/gaschamber/.

>>84432 (OP)

Let's all just hope lavadog is doing okay. Felon or not, he is one of us, and the fandom is supposed to be a big welcoming family.

>>88770

you have to be joking me. your kidding. you think its okay for someone to rape someone? and still be included. thats like welcoming uncle bob after he murders your wife and kids. its just something you dont do, life in prison and maybe at like 80 if he survives will get out and get his life back. by then the fandom will cease to exist its already in its death throws.

>>88892

hopefully him raping that boy is equivliant to a cydesdale raping a twink.

>>88842

Nowhere in that post did he say it was okay. Though I'm at least slightly doubtful it's not bait with how dismissive he is of the crime at hand.

That said, as difficult as it is to forgive someone of such heinous crimes as murder or rape, the best thing to do would be to work towards forgiveness and reformation, in either case.

>>88894

Why would you hope that him raping that boy is equivalent a Clydesdale raping a twink? That sounds terrible.

>>87405

Knowing about something does not mean understanding it, not does it mean being physically nor mentally ready for it.

Never forget that Zaush was caught with actual cp and the fandom was so hell bent on protecting a popufur source of fap material, coupled with the "we are not part of human society" mentality, no one contacted the police, not even the ones who hate him. You know that if the media and authorities ever did an actual heavy investigation of the fandom, this show would be shut down and thousands of arrests made.

I just hope if/when Zaush cares to go after a teenager he ends up confronting Chris Hansen instead. It would ruin him and probably fuck the fandom over along with it, and mean he's not raping a 12 year old

>>86866

18 but no older is fine.

But there should also be some law sin place to punish teens who use fake IDs to get men to have sex with them rather than blanket punishing those men who believed the girl, while also allowing stricter punishments for those caught with piles of CP or who actually rape kids.

That won't happen, of course, Trump is too concerned with passing strict copyright laws to focus on real crimes. Not that he doesn't actively defend kiddie diddlers. Sure, Trumputin, downloading MP3s is worse than rape, whatever your traitorous ass says...

>>88927

I wasn't arguing with you nor on that point, so your counterpoint is irrelevant.

Second, the police/feds are nowhere near as incompetent as most people believe, including you. If there was ANY REAL EVIDENCE for possession of CP, Zaush would be in jail right now. End of story. He's a minor online celebrity of a smalltime fetish fandom, not a senator; he wouldn't be able to leverage "connections" to get out of something like that.

Also, Chris Hansen was a great guy. He committed illegal acts of entrapment and obstruction that meant that LITERALLY NOBODY that was "caught" on his show was ever prosecuted. It was meaningless vigilantism for a TV show catering to virtue-signaling normies. One can't just pretend to be a cop and go around busting people and expect it to stick in court; it doesn't fucking work that way. That's also why they had to blur the guy's faces and not reveal their actual names. The entire thing was hugely illegal, which is why it was eventually shut down. The only reason it took so long is because the feds are virtue-signaling normies, too. Imagine the public outrage of all the complete retards who bought that garbage, if they read the headline "FBI Shuts Down 'To Catch a Predator', Calls it Illegal".

>the media and authorities ever did an actual heavy investigation of the fandom, this show would be shut down

What the fuck are you even on about? How did you develop this absurd delusion that "the fandom" is this solid, tangible entity that can be investigated? What the fuck do you think would be "shut down"?? The President gives a speech tomorrow "Nobody is allowed to be furries anymore!!" or some shit? Mother of fuck are you people stupid.

>>88928

Libtards have to pretend non libtards are inherently wrong, because the left cant meme. Kavanaugh did nothing wrong, giving any leftist power is a mistake, bring on the blue flush.

http://archive.is/2dT5k

Thoughts?

>>88969

A fetish is a correlation between something that isn't inherently sexual (like feet or pee) with sexual arousal. It's normal and natural to be aroused by dicks and ass, no matter what kind of creature it's attached to; and dicks and ass ARE SEXUAL.

Furry is not a fetish. You can't violate the actual definition of the term just because you don't like it.

>Stereotypes are earned

Yeah, we're done here.

>>88908

i had said that the equivliant of him getting raped is a clydesdale raping a twink. i need to set my passwords to something better i think someone edited that.

>>88927

oh wait i said hopefully , him raping that boy is the equivalent of a Clydesdale raping a twink.

>>89055

>him raping that boy is the equivalent of a Clydesdale raping a twink

This is absurd. How could you even come to that conclusion? Some kind of retardation involving multiplying a ratio of an adult's dick with a kid's dick? First of all, this kid was 13, which is usually far enough along in puberty to have adult-sized genitals or pretty close. Also, children around the age of 10-12 are already about 80% the overall physical size of an adult, whereas a draft horse outweighs a human by a factor of like ten times. In case you've never seen a preteen clog a toilet, you may be surprised to know their assholes are clearly about the same size as an adult's, too.

Fact is, regardless of their mental or psychological readiness, 10-year-olds are physically capable of taking a dick up the ass just as well as 18-year-olds can.

>>88842

I'm just saying that he's still a human being and only acted how he was programmed to act. Also the "victim" was 13 AND entrapped him... What an asshole that kid was. It was just 1 little mistake and they should let lavadog go.

>>89389

no it wasnt a mistake he RAPED a child you dumb fuck.

>>89080

and how do you know this information?

>>89395

It was a teen...

and he wanted it.

Rape is a crime because people should have the right not to be forced to have sex if they don’t want to. Statutory rape is a crime because some legislators figured you don’t have the sense to control your life until the second you turn 18, and from that point on you’re responsible for what you do with your body. Or 17, or maybe 16, or even less depending on where you live. Which makes it even less sensible.

Being charged with corruption of a minor or statutory rape or indecent acts with a child are all possible outcomes of a “mistake”; a lapse in judgement or a moment of emotional vulnerability. You don’t accidentally put on a ski mask, pop out from behind a minivan, and hold a woman down with a knife to her throat while forcibly penetrating her.

It’s deceptive to say “oh he shouldn’t be punished for being in love,” but it is also deceptive to say that “a man had sex with a child,” when what really happened was a young adult had sex with a slightly younger near-adult. From many descriptions in here it almost sounds like he was 40 and the kid was only six.

If all that matters is stirring up emotions and making everybody angry about something then why bother looking for real facts to distort? You could just make shit up completely out of nothing. That’s what Trump does and it works great for him.

Tell us about the furry that broke into a daycare at nap time and abducted triplets to abuse in his sex dungeon for three months before he was caught and gunned down by sheriffs. Make him Catholic. Or an undocumented alien. Why half-ass this?

>>88932

At least one target killed himself. A successful cancer surgeon lost his career, and the medical world lost a valuable resource. Not everything TCAP touched came up roses.

>>89511

>Why half-ass this?

To garner as much knee-jerk emotional reaction as possible without seeming too over the top?

>>89565

Yeah okay you have a point. Carry on then, I guess.

>>89489

that adult had no business sleeping wiht someone who is flooded wiht hormones and has just begun or is in the start of puberty. it isnt fair and it preys on them by taking advantage of there vunerability.

so what if the teenager wanted it? doesnt make it legally or morally right someone without mental issues would tell that person to go run off and have sex with someone there own age and avoid the situation entirely

lavadog has mental issues and i hope he gets help in the future while in prison or something and reforms to the point of where they can consider him for bail.

right now he is too much of a danger to society.

>>89604

and forgot to add society and himself.

>>89605

true.

>>89389

11/10 bait made me reply

I ERPed with adults when I was 9 but I wasn't dumb enough to get them in trouble. Whenever they probed me for more information, I would just cut them off.

>>89607

well this obviously was more of a coercion thing.

lavadog used his pedophile skills to coerce the teenager probbaly posing as being 16 or something and lying as he looks like a teenager despite being an adult.

>>89610

"Detective loli bunny..." shes a fucking adult you twit.

this man deserves to stay in jail.

>>89698

Realistically no one deserves jail. We only have jails for when people are physical threats to other people and cannot be reformed.

Lavadog is non violent, nurturing, and can probably be reformed if we let him go. It's not like he hurt anyone or buried a kids corpse after yiffing it. He just got tricked by a conniving 13 year old looking to get innocent people in trouble.

>>89750

>pedo/ rapist/ apologist/ defender.

>go die in a fire kek

> i hope he nevers get out of jail and serves as a big warning to the pedo community that what you do is wrong.

>>89763

>child rape should be a death row convinction when proven that there was ejaculation or forced penetration either digital or phallical both male and females should be convicted of child assault because females seem to get off easier because its an attack on the male gender by feminists and anti pedo campaginers who like to make males to be a risker subject because it forewards there campagin when girls are actually more likely to be pedophiles because they can interact and motherly manipulate children better then men can.

men are shown to have a worse time being a father compared to a female mother.

both genders can have a high sexual drive and present a risk.

its not just one, fucking american idiots.

>>89038

source?

anyone who thinks he should go free is a pedo supporter/ apologist/ pedo child rape supporter/ digusting person/ defender

>>89835

Don't know why logic is filtered out of your head and kept far away from the thoughts you screech. You can hope all you want but there is nothing wrong with being a pedo, lavadog did make a mistake but that doesn't help the economy having to house him for life.

still deserved jail time, sick fuck.

>>89883

he didnt make a mistake. he raped a child, he deserves to be punished by law and he deserves to be housed in jail for life. the economy will survive with one less pedophile in it ,trust me. someone somewhere has already taken his job and his income. the tax payers pay 100% less then he will ever cost anyone in his life including that poor innocent child

KYS pedo supporter.

>>90025

That was covered like what, a week ago? You say rape, but you know only what the media and court records say. But I bet you’re a lazy faggot who couldn’t be arsed to find out where the guy lives and search the public record, so you really only know what the media say. And you’re also probably a SUPER lazy faggot and took for granted what some asshole on an anonymous board said happened and didn’t even read the press version of the story.

Kids have relationships with adults all the time and then regret it later or slip up and a parent finds out. Same things happen with adults. Then it becomes a big deal. Then it becomes “rape.”

You don’t have any idea whether it was a mistake, and don’t try to bullshit us into thinking you know anything the average moron off the street can’t google about it.

>>90035

>you’re a lazy faggot

>you’re also probably a SUPER lazy faggot

that's just redundant.

>>90036

Fuck I’m a failure.

>>90035

bull shit stop defending the fact that he sexually assaulted a child and was well aware and coherent of what he was doing.

>>90035

also KYS digusting pedo supporter.

>>90110

I don’t condone or apologize for the guy. I just don’t swallow what the newspaper says without thinking, let alone what you tell me happened.

If a 43 year old man has sex with a two year old, the newspaper will report on “a man that was accused of sexual activity with a child.” If an 18-year-old boy has sex with a 16-year-old, the newspaper will report on “a man that was accused of sexual activity with a child.”

Those are two very different scenarios that become identical because the media doesn’t think it’s important to distinguish similar-age relationships. Both are illegal. Both are not shocking or outrageous. Both are not examples of pedophilia.

The arrest record is also not going to show the age of the victim or the circumstances of the relationship. It will be a code citation like “Title xxx sec xxx sexual act w child under 18,” and it will be whatever CHARGE the prosecutor went for. Again, this could be entirely different from what actually happened. Ever hear of a plea agreement?

No I don’t jump to conclusions and I don’t judge people based on third hand testimony. If we could sit down and read the court reporter’s transcript, then you and I could have an informed conversation about actual events and what I think of the guy.

But we can’t do that and I’m not willing to drive on in absence of any evidence.

No, that does not make me a pedophile apologist. It just makes me a rational person, and yeah I can appreciate that you may seldom encounter my kind but we do exist.

>>88770

Let's see you sing that tune when it will be your child being sexually assaulted by random pedophiles. And that's not even mentioning them probably having STD's

Why do people make such a big deal about rape? You'd think it's worse then murder the way normies speak about it. Ironic considering the fact that most normies are sexual degenerates. What harm is one more penis going to do?

>>90255

What would your tune be if your child was charged with rape and there had been no intercourse at all, just dinner and a movie and two hours without an alibi?

>>90258

no child wants sexual intercourse you are taking advantage of there innocense and lack of reasoning and a bunch of things.

>>90261

children cant rape and if they do commit horrific crimes like murder they get sent to prison google any of the children that are now serving life in prison.

>>90115

no child wants sex from an adult you are taking advantage of them regardless of how your able to process they are not. its akin to raping someone whos disabled. sexual assault is still sexual assault regardless or not if the child tries to defend the accuser/ you know want to know why its a bad thing if the child defends the accuser because theres a thing called Stockholm syndrome and there mental development is not enough especially at 13 for christ sakes that 1 year older then 12, there not even into puberty and this guy is taking once again advantage of them sexually.

>>90048

you should commit a mass murder as soon as possible cause your on this board defending pedophiles because its funny.

>>90263

>>90264

>>90265

>>90266

You really couldn’t have kept all those replies to one post? And Christ, speaking of kids, I bet the underage posters here can write a more coherent post than you can. Maybe worry about yourself before you go worrying about children lol

is he still alive in jail

>>90288

yeah, im more concerned with the children buddy then you trolling me start going after pedos and zoos in the fandom instead of defending them in the sake of image, your fandom wont ever get accepted and even more so after your retarded esports guy went on stage and trolled. your not funny and you wont win.

death to pedos and zoos.

lavadog is a child rapist.

>>90025

>Innocent child.

Rofl my sides.

I don't know what kind of sheltered life you live that you think teens are innocent. Where do you think all the school shooting jokes come from?

Children are also sexual the moment puberty hits. Hell, I discovered what I was into years before age 13 (sexually) and have been blueballed for upto a decade. I'm 99% sure the teen initiated the sexual advances. I doubt the teen was a saint, and snitching on an innocent adult only further proves my point.

>>90324

Hopefully he gets out early so that we can grab a few beers and he can feel welcome at my place.

>>90453

haha, hope he gets killed in jail so you lose your potential pedo contact.

>>90452

lavadog could of been the adult and said no hes still the adult in the situtation and was the one who was of more mental capacity and in control he didnt get tricked he didnt fall into anything he didnt make a bad judgement hes a pedophile and is attracted to children and therefore is a danger to both himself by acting on his sexual problems instead of getting treatment and help for his paraphillia, mental disorder, the man is also a danger to children seeing how he willy nilly has penetrative sex with anyone he can get his hands on.

normal people who have any sense of moral decency and not a mental illness dont go oh man ill have sex with this 13yo when theres plenty more people my age i can totally bang, no hes a pedophile and he deserves jailtime for his sexual assault.

hang him from the gallows we have a live one, let the ghetto niggers after him

pedophiles should be forced into mental therapy to fix this problem that not even the 2003 protect act can take care of.

>>90523

It would be nice for them to have a support system to keep them busy and away from kids. Although, I think it is funnier to just let it run its course. We dont prevent it from happening, therefore we should accept the consequences. Not saying that it is right or wrong, because life is meaningless. I'm just saying that it's not the biggest problem on our list.

>>90553

it is quite funny that with everything going on pedophillia and child pornography and abuse and scandals run rampant its basically the donald trump equivilant of child porn.

do one thing say another. lots of dirty money in child porn lots of it political. stopping it could start a war, as alot of forgien powers invest money into it good and bad.

>>90264

That question will make more sense to you in 10-20 years.

If a very close friend or family member of yours was charged under a section of law covering child sex crimes, and you had every reason to believe it was a misunderstanding given what you knew about the history between the victim and the accused, how would you feel hearing everyone saying that your loved one should be raped in prison and rot in hell?

>>90565

yeah sexual intercourse isnt a misunderstanding. he knew what he was doing and knew that the boy was 13. theres no way in hell hes not a pedo and it wasnt pedophillic in interest esp how what he was involved in there are alot of teenagers in the furry commity stop defending him he was adult who was aware of his actions and im sure there are chatlogs and text messages and things not released that can also prove this.

when we hear the new we get a small clip of whats going on, i have no doubt that his devices were seized and paged through and tons of evidence found to prove him guilty beyond reasonable doubt.

>>90565

his drawings on facebook and him telling his friends his court dates also indicates a mental illness now mental illness is not an excuse for sexually assaulting a child, infact that makes him more dangerous to the community the fact that he didnt seek out help and was unable to control his urges and acted out on them.

it doesnt take a rocket scientist to see why hes guilty.

he preyed on someone who was 13 dude, you dont do that the boy hasnt even entered puberty yet after being a child and hes already got people fucking him in the ass, thats not fair at all, let the kid make his own decisions with people his OWN age first instead of flooded with hormones and what not unable to make decisions because now he has all these strange things going on,

the kid did not known any better lavadog did, stop giving the attacker credit and start giving the child credit for being naive. fuck sakes all these pedo defenders makes me want to shoot up the next sex offender meeting.

>>90594

Yeah but instead of getting all worked up over what you imagine could have happened, based on some words people used in an internet message board... I’m saying you should make a rational decision based on your best understanding of the facts. Which none of us really are equipped to do.

Nobody says raping kids is ok. We are saying that the guy should not be punished for rape if he didn’t rape anybody. You can’t widen the circle of rape to include all the things you personally find inappropriate or unsavory.

>>90595

so your saying its okay to just bone 13yos? i get people try to get people in trouble but i really doubt this was the case here.