No.82137
Whaddya think? Maybe post yours too
No.82139
>femboy
>unnatural fur colors and pattern
>human hair, pubic hair
2/10 Stop being an uncreative autist.
No.82140
>>82137
>hair covering eyes
Worst possible aesthetic why do people do this?
No.82146
>>82137
Show the cock faggot.
No.82150
>>82148
I'd suck it tbh, also everyone else should also post their (male) fursonas for me to masturbate to
No.82151
I'd post my sona but I've only ever gotten busts drawn and my own art isn't good enough to.. make sense at all.
No.82160
>>82154
He must bottom for a fox, because his back has the mark of Zorro.
No.82163
No.82170
>>82140
ask nature, not him.
No.82173
>>82151
Do it.
Just means there's less autism to blind us with.
No.82174
>>82173
wow don't be rude I'm not auts nor am I an otter
No.82180
>>82173
ok fine here I am give me attention pls =w=
No.82181
Don't have a 'sona, just characters, but these are the latest to join the roster. Been posted before.
No.82182
>>82180
Are the markings paint or stickers?
No.82183
>>82137
It can't be any worse than rasha's oc
No.82184
>>82182
the strawberries, stars, and buttons? pins on the glasses, piercings on the ears.
No.82187
>>82184
Nifty! I like the whole look and character.
No.82193
I'm a raccoon who doesn't look like a raccoon.
No.82196
No.82198
>>82196
you rated me the same as the shitty not-raccoon? yikes
No.82199
>>82198
Yeah, I did. You want a 3/10 then for the weird fucking ears? Yikes.
No.82200
>>82199
Oooohhh, don't forget about the piercings and those glasses, they don't even hang onto anything! Ouch my dude.
No.82201
>>82196
Hey 6/10. I'll take that.
No.82202
>>82196
Why 5/10 for mine, may I ask?
No.82203
>>82202
Nothing really special about them honestly. NPCs/Background characters.
No.82204
>>82199
>>82200
lmao sounds like you're a solid 0/10 irl my dude
No.82205
>>82137
ima keep it real with you chief your color scheme is atrocious but hair over eyes is top tier despite what these faggots say
No.82206
>>82203
hate to break it to you m8 but 99.999% of people are basically npcs/background characters. isn't it egotistical for everyone to make characters that are "so interesting" they would be a main character of any story involving them? or do you like rate up people for being special shitty snowflakes because they have something special about them??
No.82208
>>82204
Can't take the L it seems
>>82206
>isn't it egotistical for everyone to make characters that are "so interesting" they would be a main character of any story involving them? or do you like rate up people for being special shitty snowflakes because they have something special about them??
I wanna see some personality, you dimwit.
No.82209
>>82208
Or you know, maybe the artstyle is turning me off.
No.82210
>>82208
>I wanna see some personality, you dimwit.
>Or you know, maybe the artstyle is turning me off.
So you're judging a character based on nothing substantial but how it was drawn?
What if I supplied a lengthy 5000-page comic that goes into the complex detailed backstory of my character to provide its personality? Also, how is having long floppy ears not personality? Just think of how useful those things are! You can hug people with the ears, you can rub their penis with those ears. They're perfect. You're dumb.
No.82211
>>82203
Would you prefer to know something about them? They're definitely not NPCs or background.
Sierra Winchester, on the left, is the host of a radio show. On the left, dressed as an archeologist, holding an Inca artifact (a prop sent by a fan of the show). On the right, her broadcast position, at the studio's pipe organ. She's a fan of 20s and 30s style in general; she and her radio character, Katie K, are amateur pilots.
On the right. Benoit runs a greenhouse. He's also a stripper at a fancy club; his stage persona is( female) Sarah Scarlet. He's an easygoing type with zero temper.
You'd be welcome to ask questions about them.
No.82212
>>82137
>>82148
>>82154
>>82180
>>82181
>>82193
Awful chracters, delete them off the internet to save yourself the embarrassment of being associated with this trash
No.82213
>>82210
You know what, yes I will judge a character based on how it was drawn. I'm not going to give a sparkledog a good score even if they have a big story behind it. It just looks awful.
Take opinions with a grain of salt. It's up to you whether you think your character is good or not. Stop getting so fucking mad just because I don't like it.
>>82211
My score still stands.
No.82214
>>82213
I'm not mad, let alone fucking mad. I just wanted to point out your bias. :^)
No.82215
>>82213
I mean fwiw I agree, my fursona is a representation modeled after who I am and who I want to be and that's a solid 4/10
No.82216
>>82213
You told me what you didn't like, and I gave it. Are you trolling? Or is there some more specific reasoning?
No.82217
>>82216
>Are you trolling?
Nope, still a 5/10 to me. Maybe a 6 if that'll make you stop complaining.
No.82218
Oops, I'm wrong. There's another who's newer than these.
No.82219
And very well. I'm not really complaining, so much as trying to genuinely understand what people dislike about my characters.
No.82220
>>82219
Why does he have two personas of seperate genders? Why does he strip?
No.82222
>>82220
He strips because he finds it fun. Big on teasing. It's also an outlet for some of his sleight-of-hand ability. He got into it after a friend, who'd done it for years, found a club that was trying to get away from sleaze (no table/lap dances, no touching the dancers). He wouldn't be comfortable in one of the common type of strip clubs.
He considers himself trans, but isn't really firmly so. He's comfortable presenting as either gender, but male is the default he's chosen. Sarah is a persona he plays, and is really no more than a stage persona. He doesn't appear as Sarah Scarlet anywhere but at that job.
No.82223
>>82212
Someone is jealous they didn't get a 6.
No.82224
>>82223
Hey listen man, I'll suck you off for a 6
No.82231
I like seeing how people react to a sona that had effort put in it vs like seeing how people dont want to have their characters stand out in fear of being judged for something that in the end is just for fun
No.82235
Not a sona per say, but with the themes being so similar I doubt it warrants it's own thread, r8 pls
No.82241
Fucking rip it to pieces.
I know its shitty but it was my first attempts to make one of these cringefests.
No.82242
>Nearly 50 posts
>Only nine separate character, four of which belong to the SAME PERSON
You people are really bad at this.
No.82246
>>82181
the lynx is cute, 9/10
left fox is good, right fox looks like it carries a katana
>>82241
the only honest sona in this thread
7/10 for that
>>82235
would be much better if the artstyle was more complex
>>82218
7/10, lose the crown and give her proper feet
>>82180
>glasses
>ear piercings
yeah that's a 2/10
>>82193
go away not n8
>>82148
possibly the worst thing in this thread
No.82248
>>82246
Thanks on the lynx. And no, the fox isn't a neckbeard type. That's only when you put a fedora with a stained D&D shirt and grody jeans.
On the girl with the crown, she's the ruler of a micronation which, in that setting, is recognized as a sovereign city-state. She rarely wears the formal clothes on the right; usually she sticks to casual stuff with a crown pictured somewhere on the shirt. By the feet, you mean digitigrade?
No.82249
>>82248
>isn't a neckbeard type
Yeah, it looks more like an edgelord/weaboo.
Definitely agreeing with >>82246 about that, at least get rid of the fedora.
Pic related is one of the least embarrassing images I could find of what that alter ego looks like.
No.82252
>>82249
Sarah's going for more of this sort of look. Think 1930s gangster. Her weapons are a sharp tongue and playing cards (ask Ricky Jay about that one).
No.82255
>>82223
>thinking I would post my OC here
lmao
No.82256
>>82255
Why?
Do you think it makes your character less shit if you don't?
No.82257
>>82248
yeah, digitigrade always look better imo
though your characters are at least consistent one way or another, so that's good
>>82252
the hats have such a stigma to them at this point I wouldn't bother
No.82260
>>82256
My character is amazing thank you very much
You wouldn't even understand how great they are even if I posted them
No.82261
>>82249
P.S. That guy you posted does look like a dbag but that's because he's wearing a cheapo trilby, has a t-shirt under his vest, and is carrying a katana for some unknown reason. He looks like a reject from an anime. Button up the dress shirt, put on a necktie (and not a clip-on), swap the pinstriped stingy-brim for a plain black fedora with a white hatband, toss the cheap sword in the dumpster, trim the sideburns, and he'd look fine.
No.82263
>>82257
Sorry, didn't see your post. They have a stigma on the internet. In real life, put on a fedora-- NOT a pinstriped trilby from that trendy shop at the mall-- shave properly and use deodorant/brush your teeth, get some dress shoes and a suit, and go out in that... and see how many compliments you get vs. insults or derisive looks. You'd be surprised at how many people tell you that you look great.
The stigma exists because of guys who think they can go out in a tee with pit stains, cruddy dirty pants, stringy hair and a month's worth of facial hair, toss a cheap trilby on top, add some overwrought olde-tymey slang, and think they're now a lady magnet.
No.82267
>>82261
>that's because he's wearing a cheapo trilby, has a t-shirt under his vest, and is carrying a katana for some unknown reason
It's part of the reputation fedoras have now.
Put that hat and a cocky smirk on, and this is what people are going to think of these days.
You might be able to subvert that view a bit by making sure a background of the proper setting is included, but the smirk is still just laughable.
No.82270
>>82267
>the smirk is still just laughable
That's just, like, your opinion, man. Really, though, it's the internet opinion-- you could probably post Frank Sinatra in a suit and fedora and people too young to know him would go, "who's this clown, where's his neckbeard and sword?" Sarah looks nothing like this 2nd katana-douche, either. This guy is even worse, crappy shirt and sweatpants. At least the first guy had a nice two-piece suit, even though it was wasted on him. Sarah's going for the same sort of faux-vintage look Michael Jackson did, though with a dash more class with spats.
But yeah, that's a pretty good setting for her. Backgrounds in the kind of necessary detail cost more than I've got, but you found a pretty good photo. Mind if I save that and share it around?
The only background stuff I've really had done was Sierra at the organ console. That was one of the most complex single objects the artist has drawn, it's based on a real one and I had him trace the basics from a photo to get it closer to real (most of the finer detail is freehand). Pipe organs in radio stations used to be a thing. Sierra voices many of the female characters, and plays the accompanying music, with one other guy who does all the foley not available in the theatre organ's battery of sound effects, plays most male characters, and narrates.
No.82271
No.82272
>>82270
>Mind if I save that and share it around?
It was a 30 second google search followed by 5 minutes of editing, feel free.
>That's a pretty good setting for her
I assumed it was what you already intended.
The character looks like a Lackadaisy reject.
Is he from a modern setting then?
Because that's way worse.
>Sarah looks nothing like this 2nd katana-douche
Think you're focusing too much on literal appearances and clothing.
There's a reason you can show someone a picture of orange over blue, bang a steelpan, and get them thinking of a tropical sunset by association.
No.82273
>>82137
It's not the worst, but, it's still pretty bad. Mostly due to the coloring.
No.82276
Was going to ask if OCs were okay, but >>82181 seems to have already answered that.
>>82275
I like him, although the asymmetry of his sleeves is triggering the fuck out of me.
What's his deal?
No.82283
>>82272
>Because that's way worse
Do you have anything else beyond "the internet says fedora = edgelord"? Yes, Benoit's made for a modern-day setting. And as fun as this criticism is fun to read, I like him as a character, so in the end I don't really care if anybody assumes he's a weeb because he wears a certain hat.
Incidentally, I'm a hat-wearer (of all sorts - top hats, fedoras, homburgs, though I don't own a trilby). I only wear them with a suit & tie; if I'm in casual clothes, I don't wear a hat. In close to twenty years of doing so, not one person has made comments about me being a weeaboo-- probably partly because I wear a three-piece suit, tie and dress shoes and I know what hygiene is, but also probably because I don't wear a cheap pinstriped trilby and talk like a reject from a 1900s romantic novel about the "upper crust."
>>82276
I'm really diggin' this guy. What's his story? Not sure on species...? Has sort of a Mideastern vibe about him, Aladdin the street thief.
No.82289
Oh are we back? Tell me my orange herm gryph is shit please anon, then rate the rest of 'em if you really want.
No.82290
>>82242
As much as I'd like to post one of my characters I'd rather stay anon.
No.82293
>>82137
Cringe colors; could be decent if they were natural. Hair over the eyes is lame, though. 4/10
>>82154
Donks are decent, though his back-fur marking is oof. 7/10
>>82180
Smelly dumb hybrid scum. Pick just one accessory instead of dumping the jewelry box on your face. 3/10
>>82181
Lynx is alright, 7/10
Fedora-fox though, even if you defend it with muh classy, it's still tainted. 4/10
>>82193
Looks like a twink bear with runny mascara. 5/10
>>82218
Are you drawing these yourself? Full white is boring, get some kind of natural looking marking to spice it up. 4/10
>>82235
No fatties 2/10
>>82241
>facial hair on furries
Other than that it's non-offensive enough for a 6/10
>>82275
Pixel art, huh. Gotta agree with >>82276 on the asymmetry, otherwise he looks like a bad enough dude if a bit of a manlet. 7/10
>>82276
Big ears save lives; though you're one to talk about asymmetry mister one earring. 8/10
>>82289
Gryphon 1/10
Fox thing 4/10 for the puke looking color
Jasumi 3/10, purple is fine as an accent but there's too much accent. Keep it to like the feather tips and tail, drop the circuit looking dot-lines.
Slin 2/10 from the makers of tumblr nose brings tumblr belly and tumblr knees
No.82295
>>82293
>Smelly dumb hybrid scum.
It's literally just a red panda but with long ears. Do you dislike Klonoa's design for being dumb hybrid scum too?
No.82298
>>82295
No, because I want to fuck Klonoa.
No.82300
>>82295
>Do you dislike Klonoa's design
Yes. He's dumb and highly overrated, in exactly the same camp as Tails. Yeah, I know, the official shotacub character number is small enough to count on one hand, but seriously. It's garbage.
No.82306
>>82283
>What's his story?
Still working on it, but he's the son of a wealthy merchant from a group of desert nomads.
A common practice is to break off from the group and settle down once one of them ends up doing well enough for themselves that constantly being on the move becomes an issue for inventory management. So he's currently living in a more temperate location rather than traveling the desert now.
Trying not to go into too much detail though.
>Not sure on species...?
Jerboa
The ears and the tail feel right, but I'm planning on shortening the arms a bit and possibly shaving his feet.
Still not sure where I want to set the scale on how far I'm anthropomorphizing him.
>Has sort of a Mideastern vibe about him, Aladdin the street thief.
Exactly what I was going for.
After his family left the desert, the clothing out there became overkill so cutting it down to this became necessary.
He doesn't mind though, he honestly prefers it to the pile of loose wrappings he had to wear all the time as a kid.
>>82293
>though you're one to talk about asymmetry mister one earring
Ya got me.
I guess it just bothers me because of how pronounced it is.
The pin and chain >>82275 has don't bug me at all, but the sleeves are torture.
No.82307
>>82293
>No fatties 2/10
But boney girls are lame
No.82308
>>82307
You mean girls are lame.
No.82311
What do you think of my sona
No.82314
>>82300
Well that's fine then, at least you're consistent. I just really like long floppy ears. You can do so much with them, it's like a thneed =w=
No.82315
>>82311
I think it needs to be thrown into an incinerator, and you along with it.
No.82316
No.82318
>>82308
>being gay
>2018
lmao
No.82323
>>82314
Long ears are fine, so long as they look like ears and not weird scarf-like ribbons with zero structure.
No.82326
>>82293
No, I'm not drawing them myself. Dr. Javi is the artist. No arctic foxes, ermines, etc. for you either, I'd wager, since they, too, lack markings.
>>82306
I really like him now. Nice work!
>>82314
Like a thneed. I dig.
>>82311
Can't say much without color. Looks like a pony dressed like Rock Dog.
No.82336
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>>82323
That's mostly understandable, but to be fair certain breeds of dogs have basically exactly that, just the ears end closer to the cheekbone rather than draping over their torso.
The artist in particular, while improving, certainly still has some issues with depth and structure on anything outside of his obvious comfort zone. I'm working on learning to draw so maybe one of these years I can really nail down how I envision it.
One of these years, if I don't kill myself over how bad I am first.
No.82337
No.82354
>>82336
>Ears longer than natural or even sensible
Eh... as the owner of a character who has a tail longer than he is tall for no reason at all aside from that I like it, I can't really criticize it just for that. If they looked like long-ass rabbit ears or bloodhound ears, that would be okay. I still wouldn't LIKE it, but it would be okay.
No.82358
>>82354
I don't really know how exactly I want to define it in actual art where the meaningful difference can be depicted. It is largely pulled from Klonoa, who aside from being the kind of cuteness I wish I could be has been in general a great source of inspiration to me (I love the soundtracks with Klonoa, and the detail in the games down to the fictional but largely defined Phantomilian language is something I greatly appreciate) but realistically he just has... very big cylindrical ears. In his case, his ears are actually used to help him float temporarily because video game logic.
For practical purposes as far as my own art skills go, I intend to start with something like picture related and just work out from there what I feel to be most aesthetically pleasing to myself. It's also not quite something on my radar - I've mostly been focusing on a mixture of various human anatomy and trying to understand how to shape animal skulls. I don't even feel like I've developed my own personal style yet, though I think I would like to focus more on (digital) painting. The above picture was sort of a one-off contained in like 8 pages of trying to construct leopard/panther skulls from various angles and a couple of gestures. Incidentally, that's why it looks more like a cat and less like a red panda, though there seem to be a few similarities so it's not the greatest sin.
No.82360
>>82357
dumb necklace, two tails meaning he's a kitsune yet you didn't do creative with the design itself
also that fucking name
3/10
No.82362
no proper reference sheet, but here you go
No.82364
>>82362
Really like the first pic, the last pic doesn't really look appealing to me, but anyways, he's fucking adorable. What does he do exactly? Some sort of military general? Is he single, by any chance?
I'd rate him an 8/10. Definitely not like the generic fox posted before and colors that don't give one a seizure.
No.82365
>>82364
thank you!
the ones in red are just outfits from a videogame, the other three are essentially just what he wears normally, I suppose. it's supposed to be like a naval uniform
No.82366
>>82365
He still looks fine nonetheless! Is he from any place in particular? How old is he? Does he have a name?
No.82367
>>82366
I'm afraid there's not much to tell.
His name is Ceol, though. (Like the vegetable.)
No.82369
>>82357
You'll get shit on for the Japanese name and having two tails, but he looks okay to me. What's his backstory?
>>82362
Looks good.
No.82370
>>82367
Understandable. The name's alright. Okay, that'll be enough from me.
No.82371
Another of mine. Horizon is a hybrid. Mother was a rabbit, father a kobold. She's tiny. In the setting she's built for, kobolds have fire/smoke ability like dragons, and are thought to be distantly related but are from a different planet.
Hori here started as a police officer on a large space station city, worked her way up to chief of police, retired, and still does part-time police work. There's a reason for the message on her bag: she's an official reviewer for a city newspaper, and in her case she mostly reviews sex workers (prostitutes) from the legal, though tightly-regulated, Red Light area. She likes the ideas of the book by that name: that one can be a slut without damaging others' relationships or supporting cheating. The bag carries her phone/city guide device.
As is common with kobolds in that setting, she has no surname.
No.82372
>>82370
a long time ago I did write something short up, based on the setting of a novel a friend of mine is writing, but neither of us really consider this to be canon either way
No.82373
>>82371
So you just turned Judy Hopps into a slutty snowflake character..
No.82400
>>82373
I expected to get roasted, but I thought at least people would be creative.
No.82411
>>82373
It has zero kobold traits aside from "horns" that look more like hair fluffs. You can't call it a hybrid and then make it 99% only one species.
No.82414
>>82362
Get a commish from Pelzigenguillotine. He'll be able to pull off the uniform/clothing in a very good way.
No.82421
>>82411
Sure I can. Furries do it all the time. Kobolds don't exist at all, and there are a zillion different styles they're drawn in anyway. Who says I need to conform to anyone's standards but mine?
Captcha: EBOFIZ. That's totally an alien brand of soda pop.
Anyhow, kobold traits for her are indeed horns and fire... and her build and body type. Kobolds there are short and thick. But kobold females don't have breasts (same for dragons in this setting, no dragon boobs either).
No.82424
>>82421
>Furries do it all the time.
So you want to be just as shitty as them?
>Who says I need to conform to anyone's standards but mine?
You don't.
Doesn't make it good though.
I can understand not caring that people recognize it's trash you made for yourself, but if you're going to try and defend that garbage you should have a good reason to back it.
Posting a character you already know is bad and going to be harshly criticized in a thread for people to give their opinions on characters, just so you can turn around and tell them you don't care about their opinions is either lying to yourself or a stupid waste of your own time.
No.82425
>>82137
>>82148
pfffft hahahaha nice color scheme dude
No.82426
>>82424
>Posting a character you already know is bad
Now you're putting words in my mouth, I don't think my character is bad. I think people here tend to tear you apart no matter what. Everything is either too specific or too generic, too common or too rare, too weird or too ordinary, too detailed or too plain. I think my character works quite well in the setting for which she was designed.
I love opinions, but "your character sucks" isn't helpful enough to put much stock in. I posted my kobold a few times before, and most responses were essentially "your character sucks because I like kobolds drawn a different way, you should be ashamed of that shit." I don't find those helpful in any way, but at least I can laugh at them.
When opinions foster some real discussion, I'll happily chat.
No.82427
>>82421
>Everyone else is jumping off bridges, too!
>There is no official design so if I decide a kobold looks like a purple cactus, that's fine!
>Implying bunnies aren't also short and thicc
Yeah, no amount of excuses are going to change that it's a shitty design. Here's a protip: if someone can't tell what species a hybrid is supposed to be just by looking at it, it's a failed design. Fails the "show, don't tell" test inherent to ALL art forms.
No.82430
>>82425
LMAO
GOT HIS ASS HAHAHHA
No.82431
>>82154
douchebag chad normalfag hairdo
No.82432
>>82425
OH NO NO NO OHHHUOHUO
No.82434
>>82426
>I think people here tend to tear you apart no matter what.
Your Bobcat seemed to get some praise, and she wasn't the only one.
>>82275 >>82276 >>82154 and >>82362 all got middling to positive responses.
Not everyone is going to shit on your character out of some feeling of obligation because the website has chan in the name.
I mean some will, but not all
>>82411 gave you some actual criticism about your hybridization balance too, and all you did was tell them you don't care what they think she should look like because you aren't trying to please them.
Which is fair, but why even respond at all then?
If you weren't going to actually refute their point by bringing up her lizard-shaped tail or something else they might've missed or isn't immediately obvious, then why not just stay silent and laugh at their comment like you say?
Admittedly, you did try and use her "build and body type" as an argument but that kinda falls flat when anthro rabbits tend to have the same stature.
I'm basically saying that maybe the reason your characters get bashed often enough that you think it's the only response they're going to give you is because most of them are just that bad.
No.82441
>>82427
>Everyone else is jumping off bridges, too!
>There is no official design so if I decide a kobold looks like a purple cactus, that's fine!
LOLwow
>>82434
I get it, I'm just saying it seems to amount to "I think your character has issues, which means your character objectively has issues." I'm just poking fun at that, but I suppose I'm being a bit harsh. In the past, ALL of my character posts have been torn apart, usually with my "everything seems to be derided as either too this or too that but never a good middle" responded to with the equivalent of "damn straight, if you don't like it you can fuck off," which begat my tendency to laugh at *all* criticism.
No.82451
>>82441
Then why have you bothered posting at all? If you're just going to assume that your characters are totally amazing despite what people say (and despite legitimate rational critique) while being a smug asshole about it, you're wasting everyone's time.
No.82459
>>82451
>If you're just going to assume that your characters are totally amazing
It's not that, really. I'm sure they have flaws, more or less depending on the person. But most (not all, but most) of the criticism here seems to be about "I think your character design is awful, so it IS awful," and I enjoy laughing at that. I'm glad to see polite criticism. I'm amused by crap like "the internet says fedora = edgelord, so your character is an edgelord." One of the people in that bit offered some friendly suggestions about a themed background, which was excellent.
No.82461
>>82218
First one is decent, if a touch dull. Main complaints are the totally humanoid look.
2nd one is cringe. Looks straight out of Minecraft
No.82462
>>82459
>I think your character design is awful, so it IS awful
So you disregard it because they believe their own opinion?
Do you just want people to lie about what they think or something?
Don't ignore people's criticisms like that if they're actually pointing out what they think is wrong.
Obviously "It's bad" doesn't help.
However if someone thinks a character fits a certain stereotype and says why they feel that way, there's no reason to just brush that aside entirely.
Of course you're not going to start making changes based on what one person thinks either, but if people begin agreeing or you hear similar sentiments from others then maybe you missed the mark you were aiming for.
It's up to you when something might be off and what to do about it (if anything), but don't ignore criticism entirely regardless of how big a dick someone is about sharing it.
That doesn't make it any less valuable.
Why did you come up with these characters anyway?
Do you have any plans for them, things you'd like to do with them if by some miracle you ever got a chance, or is coming up with them just a thing you like to do for fun?
No.82470
>>82362
It brightens my day seeing people still using the art I did them, glad to see you're still around
No.82493
>>82470
oh, are you this guy? yeah! I still love your work
No.82510
>>82137
Light 3
>>82154
the fuck is with the back stripe
Light 2
>>82180
Decent 5 Hello kekero
>>82181
LIGHT 1!
>>82193
0
>>82218
decent 2
>>82235
decent 1
>>82241
0.21
>>82275
Strong 6
>>82276
Decent 4
>>82289
all 0
>>82357
GENERIC!
>>82362
light 2
>>82371
0!
No.82517
>>82510
>nipple and dick piercings
soft 0
No.82520
No.82524
>>82510
What the fuck is this raiting system? Also its from the discord name I use. Also, I wanted to do something to make him different, otherwise he'd be a generic donkey. It's made from the donkey cross.
No.82526
>>82510
>nipples
>piercings
>external balls
>human dick
Easily one of the worst here.
No.82528
>>82524
Its just how he does it, he's retarded anon.
No.82532
>>82517
>>82520
>>82524
>>82526
>>82528
The plebs are always mad that the taste they have is bad!
No.82533
>>82462
>So you disregard it because they believe their own opinion?
No, I just disagree. But I only disagree with sarcasm or such if they're a jerk about it.
>Do you just want people to lie about what they think or something?
Honesty is good. Assholishness is funny.
>However if someone thinks a character fits a certain stereotype and says why they feel that way, there's no reason to just brush that aside entirely.
I know, and I don't think I do, exactly. "You've got a special snowflake" isn't helpful at all, that's just "you're an idiot" reworded. The comments that the internet will see a fedora and feel a certain way are understood, but when it boils down to "your character is a weeaboo, 'cuz the internet says so," I laugh and poke fun back.
>don't ignore criticism entirely regardless of how big a dick someone is about sharing it.
I think it's perfectly possible to have a very negative opinion but put it reasonably. I'll still look over the criticism when someone is a dick, I'll just be a bit dickish back sometimes.
>Do you have any plans for them, things you'd like to do with them if by some miracle you ever got a chance, or is coming up with them just a thing you like to do for fun?
They're for roleplay with a group of friends, in a setting we've created. Mixed fur/human/scale, current-day USA. Space travel exists and some violence/wars have been dialed back (and the current President isn't extremely controversial).
I did post these for real opinions. I have kinda-sorta trolled with another one, not posted here, in the past, but won't do that now. She's a pop/rock performer who dyes her fur in many bright colors. She was supposed to be a sparkledog (that was very much intended) but without the rigid requirements in fur patterns or accessories.
>>82510
Your burd is neat. Not big on the massive ween (it looks like it'd get in the way) but if you like it, go you! I love the Eye of Ra design; in the right usage, it can look spiffy, and here it does. Nipples are a bit odd on an avian, but then, this *is* all fiction.
How does your rating system work? What's "light" about?
>>82532
The trolls think they are fine when they make a "point" in rhyme.
No.82534
>>82532
>my porn character in an edgy post apocalyptic image
>>82528
looks like it's a bit of auts too
No.82535
>>82533
Thanks for the compliment.
The light means that it is not really an average of a score indicating something along say a 1.0-1.3, while a decent is anywhere from 1.3-1.6, and a strong is a 1.6-1.9 and so on.
>>82534
haha yes !
No.82536
>>82369
I know, I'm a stubborn idiot and don't wanna change the name to something less cringy. but also because its stuck with me for so long.
He used to be a kitsune and magic, but once i mellowed out a bit, he's just... a dude now. There's another version of him that's a fantasy swordsman for settings like that, and he's also a Pokemon trainer when I want him to be (even though I haven't commissioned anything like that yet)
No.82537
>>82535
This makes no sense.
No.82540
>>82535
I'm confused.
>>82536
Sounds like a fine enough guy, who just happens to have two tails.
No.82550
>>82540
>>82537
It took like several threads of his shit but I finally get it. Imagine it like a 100-point scale where you see the tens digit and get an idea of how close/far it is from the next tens digit.
e.g. Mine was 5/10, but it was "decent" (1.3-1.6) so it was about halfway to a 6/10. I... Don't really understand why this is necessary, but I know what it means.
>>82510
Who the fuck is kekero
No.82551
>>82550
Thanks, I get it now! It seems unneccesarily complicated, but I assume the person has a reason for doing it that way.
No.82560
>>82535
>The light means that it is not really an average of a score indicating something along say a 1.0-1.3, while a decent is anywhere from 1.3-1.6, and a strong is a 1.6-1.9 and so on.
So it is exactly what I assumed.
It's still fucking stupid.
No.82571
>>82560
>>82551
Shitting up the thread
No.82578
>>82550
kekero is earfig one of the people who run the inner circle of fur along with aced bui nasen and a few others iirc.
No.82597
originally wasn't gonna post this but why the heck not, i saw a pony oc
this is my boye Caspian and my main pokemonsona, Artie
No.82599
>>82597
Rito are kino, but the base bird is pretty garbage.
Biggest issue with the charizard is defaulting mega.
I mean there's also the fact that they're both based on pre-existing IPs, but whatever.
Not offensively bad, but not good either.
No.82602
>>82601
Terrifyingly huge eyes, get a refund
No.82604
>>82597
That charizard is not okay. Far from okay. Pokesonas are already enough of a symptom of ASD as it is, but you had to go and put glasses and human clothing on it
The bird is cute and all - I just wish you would stop using other people's intellectual property as a basis for your characters. Please get some semblance of creativity into your noggin lad. Continuing down this path will just make you look bad.
No.82605
>>82578
sounds like a nerd
No.82622
>>82597
first: decent 6
Second: light 2
>>82601
those eyes.... fucking yikes. light 3
No.82627
>>82510
Oh god it's this autistic fuck again
No.82652
>>82601
I like your goat. Nice design.
No.82685
ehh... why the heck not? I'll drop in my postergirl and sona
No.82697
Your fursonas are all cute and I like them very much.
No.82750
>>82685
both
light 2
>>82697
Jare
strong 8
No.82752
This thread has become quiet. TOO quiet...
No.82760
>>82752
Nice trash panda. I like his colors. They're unusual without being crazy.
No.82774
>>82148
Gonna share some porn of the fuck boi?
No.82781
>>82752
Hate the color pattern. Yellow is ugly as fuck to begin with, but with this, it just looks like a shitty jumpsuit.
Also, your penis is horrible.
No.82786
r8 me, I'm slutty and jack off to anonymous compliments
No.82788
>>82510
hot as fuck
>>82685
these proportions are just awful, what are you doing with your life
>>82786
>edgelord dragon
>speshul autism glows
>a slut
0/10 please slash your wrists
No.82822
>>82786
The bad anatomy ruins him.
No.82825
>>82786
>a switch
truly the worst type of person, just pick sub or dom, jesus
No.82848
>>82781
It's supposed to be a golden brown as on actual grey foxes, but that's the limitations of solid shading for you. Also probably due to different monitor settings; I tend to keep mine on a low saturation because I'm used to CRTs, while most of the time factory settings, especially in newer models, everything is OOO BRIGHT COLORS WOW! so it probably looks more muted for me than it does for you.
>your penis is horrible
The man has x-ray vision for drawings and can see right through a sheath. Amazing. This must be the world's lamest superpower, but at least it's something.
>>82825
>just pick sub or dom, jesus
You should ask /christian/ whether Jesus was a sub or dom. Could be funny.
No.82852
>>82788
>Complains about bad proportions
>Thinks the beefcake bird is hot
No.82853
>>82852
Beefcakes are always hot retard, don't try to make excuses just because your oc is total shit if it's any consolation you're better than edge dragon over here, you're a 2 instead of a 1
No.82860
>>82853
No they're not. Most of the time they're fucking horrendously drawn with no sense of anatomical knowledge. You're an idiot.
No.82861
No.82864
>>82860
this tbh
also putting iconography on your character's body is 100% cringe
No.82876
>>82752
strong cub
>>82786
decent 5
No.82878
>>82860
Case in point: Aaron. His anatomy is atrocious yet he's popular because barafags have no standards.
No.82879
>>82876
>Cubs have their own rating scale
Your system continues to baffle all who behold it.
No.82894
>>82879
you do realize it's just anthony fagtano right
you really expect someone with a generic barafag fursona to be original?
No.82911
>>82786
I'd lick those toes and tongue that cock :3
No.82923
>>82894
I don't know. Is it MORE or LESS original to be anti-cub. I think we have about equal numbers of both sides around here and both vastly outnumbered by those who don't give a fuck either way.
No.82924
>>82752
Loving the tiny cock <3 Would be better castrated though
No.82936
I was thinking about asking for advice on some other OCs that I'm still developing.
I'm not sure if that'd be okay in this thread, or if I should make a different one specifically for people to do that kind of stuff though.
No.82941
>>82936
ok, this is actually well presented. Finally we have a decent oc posted in this thread other than my own. Ill give this a light 8 points off from being decent 8 because i see some signs of hybrid in there.
No.82942
>>82936
not sure about your question, but I really like this guy you posted! he's a cutie
except for the person-hair on his head that is terrible and you should feel bad about it
No.82946
>>82941
>>82942
Those are pretty much always the main two criticisms I hear, yeah.
I've tried to change his hair a few times, but making it a dark shade of his base fur color is the most I can do and still feel like I haven't made things worse by forcing it.
I had that criticism in mind from the start when I was coming up with >>82276 so it was easier to avoid.
The hybrid thing is more of a black and white issue though, you either hate 'em or you don't and the character is either hybrid or they're not.
If you reduce the hybridization down to almost nothing you might as well not even bother, so I don't try to fight it and let people take it as they will.
Also, I just realized I forgot the white on the inside of his hands in that last one. Fuck.
No.82950
>>82924
Are you hyperfocused on this fetish, or are you attempting to be a troll?
No.82951
No.82957
>>82924
>Would be better castrated though
His balls would just immediately grow back.
No.82978
>>82946
I personally like hybrids.
Have you tried just not having the hair?
No.82979
>>82941
>other than my own
sir, the donkey, the dragon and the bara bird were all good sonas, are you stupid?
>>82978
the hair looks good though???
No.82987
>>82979
>generic muscular bird that has zero character and is literally just an egotistical projection of what the owner thinks of themselves
>good
I know furfags are renowned for their low standards but come on now
No.83004
>>82825
it's hard to choose tbh
>>82861
>>82911
thank you, this made me hard
No.83056
>Kuro spent money commissioning this
>They spent money on this model
>It looks like a retarded hybrid between Lion King and Luna from Sailor Moon
Wew
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No.83401
No.83403
>>82978
>Have you tried just not having the hair?
I'll sketch it a bit and see if I can make it work this time, but I'm not expecting much.
No.83568
>>82148
cute
>>82154
handsome, I'd fuck it
>>82180
Looks totally retarded
>>82181
Dreadful
>>82193
4/10
>>82235
It's not bad but it's not good, rather dull
>>82357
Eyyy not bad, solid 7
>>82362
I like the character concept but you need to find better artists
>>82601
Very good
>>82786
8 first person in thread to go to non trash artists
>>82936
7 go to better artists tbh
>>82876
>le egyptian bird man
0 for creativity but 6 for going to non bargain bin artists so eh
No.83609
>>83568
>Judging the art not the characters
No.83612
>>83609
I am judging both and then creating a score based on that
No.83617
>>83612
The art is a non-factor, it's not the commissioner's fault if the character looks more or less attractive depending on how the artist drew it in what way. When I rate characters I do so on a basis of appearence & bio.
No.83621
>>83568
Thanks for liking my donkey!
No.83630
>>83617
>art is a non factor
>I rate characters on the basis of appearance
you're a retard, sir. A good artist can take a mediocre concept and make it look incredible
a bad artist will take a fantastic concept and it'll look like shit.
It doesn't matter how good someone thinks their sona is, if all they have to show for it is shitty 5 dollar mspaint sketches then there's no way to see anything other than crap. Don't be a delusional retard.
No.83632
>>83630
>there's no way to see anything other than crap
I dunno, even a bad sketch can get across what the character is supposed to look like.
A good artist can just do more of the work for the viewer.
A character's design includes more than purely visual elements anyway, so no matter how good the artist is they can't affect every aspect of the character's quality.
Well, unless it's someone's 'sona I guess.
Then all the non-visual stuff is up to the owner themselves, and that could go any variety of ways.
No.83648
>>83632
if people actually gave a shit about their character in any way other than appearances then they wouldn't spend money on art, retard. They'd write stories or physical descriptions and they'd be all set
People get art for a reason so don't be an apologist for the fuckwits who go for vanity over substance without even being able to afford it
No.83650
Only have a quickly sketched head right now of my commission, but whadya guys think so far?
No.83653
>>83648
>if people actually gave a shit about their character in any way other than appearances then they wouldn't spend money on art, retard.
No.83655
>>83630
But this is a thread about fursonas, not art. A mere description about an interesting character is a better fursona than the product of a great artist who drew a beautiful render of Generic Fox #327546.
I understand if literally your only purpose here is to find cute characters to fap to, and don't give a shit about any factor other than how pretty the shading is on their dick. In which case, why don't you go rate whatever's on the front page of FA?
No.83658
>>83649
He looks better without the "clothes".
Probably just needs some casual wear.
Is he based on any specific kind of bird or is he just "a bird"?
>>83650
The hell is he?
Think I see a fluffy neck and there are not enough of those.
No.83668
>>83649
Why's his dick and tongue yellow? (i don't get this need for your internals to be the same color as the fur please someone explain it to me) Why no cloaca?
>>83655
What constitutes as a non-generic fox?
No.83669
>>83653
art is pure vanity. There is a reason why there isn't an art market around people's dnd characters, it's because people care about substance instead of the cosmetic. Whereas furries are the complete opposite and prefer style over substance
No.83670
>>83655
>this thread is about fursonas, not art!
>everyone in this thread is rating people's art posts
plz point me to the vibrant fursonas bio in this thread,.oh wait there isn't one because everyone's an art whore? Shocking
>>83649
9/10
No.83672
>>83568
Dreadful why? What would you change?
No.83679
>>83669
>Whereas furries are the complete opposite and prefer style over substance
Not going to argue there, but that doesn't support your previous argument at all.
Getting a picture made of a character isn't some surefire proof that the person doesn't care about the character's backstory or personality.
Art is often used to help portray a character's history and can do just as much to flesh them out as the written word.
No.83681
>>83670
>plz point me to the vibrant fursonas bio in this thread
>>82222 >>82211 >>82306 and >>82371 are the only ones I can find.
Seems like people should either be asking about the characters they find interesting so more people have a reason to share, or everyone should be posting 'sonas/OCs with a bit of background right off the bat.
Either one would be an improvement.
No.83702
>>83630
>fuck creativity, only the way it's presented matters
You're the highest degree of faggotry.
No.83703
>>83658
>The hell is he?
I told the artist to try and combine characteristics from multiple animals, since he's supposed to be kind of aliens so he wouldn't be just like something found on earth. I said wolf, fox, and dragon was what I wanted to combine, but the later I changed dragon to deer.
No.83705
>>83649
Your bird is so cute!
No.83706
>>83703
>but the later I changed dragon to deer.
Is it female or really young then?
A mature deer would have something closer to proper antlers instead of those nubs.
Why an alien anyway?
Did you have some idea of what you wanted it to be doing in space, were you wanting an excuse to include features from multiple animals you liked, or did you just want to make it seem more creative?
I can probably get behind any reasoning except for that last one.
No.83707
>>83658
I designed him as a generic songbird originally and went with colors I liked, which worked out to be an oriole. And the clothes are just the thot outfit I have for porn pics. Normal outfit wise is black denim/ hoodie
>>83668
I was originally gonna do fleshy pink but said fuck it. At least now I can make traffic cone dick jokes
No.83710
>>83706
The reason is because i like to rp fights with my characters, so I wanted to increase the possible power level of him. He's not really an alien. I suppose the closest real comparison would be an deity, but not really. The backstory I went with is that he's a celestial being, born from the stars. I actually am requesting my commission artist to switch out the nub horns for more mature deer antlers instead, but they're supposed to look like jagged bits of crystal lodged in his head.
So yeah, the reason for the his backstory is not creativity, but because I want to give him powers and the ability to punch really really hard essentially.
No.83712
>>83710
>the reason for the his backstory is not creativity, but because I want to give him powers and the ability to punch really really hard essentially.
Not gonna lie, wasn't expecting that.
Don't think that sounds as fun taken to the point of godhood myself, but that's just personal preference.
I may not like it, but I sure as hell can't say it's an objectively bad or lazy reasoning in that case.
>they're supposed to look like jagged bits of crystal lodged in his head.
That sounds pretty neat for a character like that, at least if the artist can pull it off well.
I think just coloring normal antlers a weird color would be pretty shit, but if they can get a fractured crystal branching out in the general shape of antlers it'd be pretty neat.
Maybe the crystal bits can quickly grow back or something too, so he can be "hit" without actually taking significant damage.
Y'know, be able to let the person you're RP'ing with actually connect with attacks or whatever more often so it feels a little more satisfying instead of having to dodge everything to avoid having a fight end too soon.
Could also explain why they look jagged, from having to regrow so often.
No.83713
>>83712
Well the reason I'm making him basically a god, or a godling, is because the people I rp fights with basically have godly character themselves, so I have to try and find a reason to level the playing field, so to speak. He's supposed to be a young celestial, so he won't be as strong as an adult celestial. I like to have my character gain strength in the story as time goes buy or plot points happen. I'm basically engaged in a really long term DnD campaign. So far I've just used disposable canon characters from anime, cartoons, and video games; but I wanted my own actual character.
I really like the idea about the crystal horns shattering and reforming though. One of the things I told my artist that I would like to possibly have the horns not be symetrical to each other to see if that might add a little bit more character to him.
No.83720
>>82137
I'm gonna get blasted out of the water.
No.83729
>>83668
>What constitutes as a non-generic fox?
Most foxes in the fandom are "generic" because they have a generic shape and coloring pattern, usually resembling an extremely simplified (although often neon-color) red fox pelt. They don't have any of the individual characteristics nor color patterns of any of the wide variety of fox species or pelt types. It's not a gray fox or a fennec fox or a red fox (with cross-fox variant); it's just "a fox".
For contrast, I incorporated some specific traits for the grey fox half of my fursona, including grizzled and courser fur on the neck and upper back (or at least as much as can be suggested with my limited artistic capability), and he has oval-shaped pupils instead of slit-shaped.
>>83670
>everyone's an art whore
I made mine all by myself or with free resources, you retarded fuckhead.
No.83744
>>83729
My foxsona wasn't generic until the fandom told me to make it bland, so I made it bland.
I've seen at least 3 other characters looking exactly like him because he doesn't have any special trait anymore.
But I don't care, I love that guy.
No.83751
>>83649
strong 8
>>83650
light unknown
>>83720
decent 2
>>83729
Foxes are dogshit this is coming from someone who had a fox OC theres like no way to make them work because theyve been done to death pic related
No.83753
>>83744
>I've seen at least 3 other characters looking exactly like him because he doesn't have any special trait anymore.
Most neckbeards look the same, but they probably have different interests and stories about their childhoods if you ever cared to actually learn about them.
I'm not saying you should, I'm just saying there's more to a person or character than what they look like.
No.83773
>>83751
>theres like no way to make them work because theyve been done to death pic related
What the fuck does this shitty smug buff dude have to do with foxes? Hell, I'd go one step farther back and describe that as not even "generic fox" but "generic canine". You could call that a wolf and nobody would dispute it.
No.83775
>>83751
>favorite meme
>doesn't just use the stupid rating system to trigger people here, but actually personally uses it
No.83794
>>83729
>le generic fox poster trying to pretend his fagsona has depth
OH NO NO NO NO
No.83795
>>83672
The core concept because it's shit
No.83804
>>83795
Could you explain a bit more? What's shit about it? I've been critiqued on the fedora already, and I'm surprised nobody has said something about "trans-related character = garbage," which seems to be another pet belief.
>>83744
I've touched on that a bit earlier in this thread. To much of the fandom, there seems to be a strong desire to dislike things. This drives criticism that paints everything as being too generic or too specific, too ordinary to too unique, too bland or too intense. People start with the belief that everything is shitty, then divide everything into these two categories in order to support that belief that nothing falls into a sweet spot in the middle.
No.83817
>>83794
I've written six short-stories about him or his universe, with several more in progress. He has more depth than every other character here, whether you care for the content or not.
No.83827
>>83817
>I've written six short-stories about him or his universe
Which is it, himself or the universe?
>He has more depth than every other character here
You're making some bold statements and getting a little defensive there.
You could have written a hundred stories or novels and a character can still end up having very little depth. If you want an example, check out Richter The author's self insert from the LitRPG series "The Land".
As much as the writer keeps insisting they have depth, it often proves to be the opposite effect and with some extra thought the character even ends up being a downright self centered piece of crap who only does the right thing for personal reward but the author keeps trying to prop him up as a hero. Not to mention how the author implies some nasty things between Richter's familiar as well as outright saying bestiality is a thing. He advertises his books to kids BTW.
But anyways, you never stopped and thought maybe other people who posted here have also written stories as well but don't feel like throwing them out there because this is just a thread where you post your fursona and get judged based on that.
Just take your lumps and move on.
No.83831
>>83649
I would date you, you're pretty cute
No.83834
>>83831
You'd date the fursona, sure, 90% of the time they're made to be idealized, but what if they're a fatass or a skeleton on the other end?
No.83837
>>83827
So what you're saying is that it's impossible for any furry character to have depth. Because otherwise there is no point in saying that one doesn't. You don't know. You can't know. You're just being a memespouting asshole for no reason, possibly because depth gets in the way over your fapping over the pretty pictures.
No.83841
>>83837
>it's impossible for any furry character to have depth. Because otherwise there is no point in saying that one doesn't
Fuckin' wat
Where the hell are you getting that from >>83827
They just said having a bunch of stories written about your character doesn't mean anything on its own.
They could easily be six short stories of six different booty calls that flesh out fuck all about the character except how big his dick is, they could all be too focused on world-building to actually spend any time going into your character, or they could actually make your character very well developed.
>I've written six short stories about him [and] his universe
Doesn't mean shit to anyone.
Quit being retarded.
No.83844
>>83834
Ay, as long as they love me <3
No.83858
>>83841
>People complaining that none of these characters has any depth
>Someone shows up who has a character who might have depth
>Everyone says he must be lying
>Depth doesn't mean shit to anyone
You're all just being contrarian motherfuckers at this point.
No.83860
>>83858
>Everyone says he must be lying
No, we're saying that "having stories" is an insubstantial claim on its own.
If they want to actually fill us in on some of that depth they're more than welcome to, but just saying "he has stories about him" doesn't carry any weight.
Fuck, how hard is this shit to comprehend?
No.83865
>>83860
>"having stories" is an insubstantial claim
That doesn't make any sense. It was literally being said that these characters were just pretty art and most didn't even have so much as a short bio paired with them. Unless you think those "stories" are nothing more than random letters splashed across a page like the result of a cat walking across a keyboard, it simply must have some substance. Maybe you have a very poor opinion of what a "story" is??
No.83866
>>83865
>Maybe you have a very poor opinion of what a "story" is??
Can't have an opinion about a story if I have no idea what the content is.
Gonna share some of that deep lore with us or is it actually just shallow porn and you don't want to admit it?
No.83919
>>83866
nobody would care about it if it wasnt shallow porn though, lmao you furries are all alike
No.83940
>>83865
You're right, stories have substance, but what's also important is to have depth. As stated earlier, these stories might just be "six different booty calls" that show us little depth of character, or they could be more than that, but we don't know, and we still won't know anything until a story is posted.
>>83919
I would care about it, especially because it might not be shallow porn.
No.83942
>>82894
The real Anthony Fantano? We have a /mu/ eceleb on here?
No.83943
>>82876
does decent 5 mean I'm allowed to lick your bird's pits?
No.83945
>>83943
>having low standards
No.83955
>>82193
Looks more like a red panda. Have any other art?
No.83961
>>83865
It's true, stories can have no depth at all and thus be insubstantial claims to a character having depth.
I even gave an example of stories without depth in a book series cleverly titled "The Land". The character hardly develops meaningfully, the author keeps propping him up to be a super good guy by having every other character say he's good when his actions speak otherwise (I.E: He only does actions for gain since there are never any negative drawbacks, ever.)
Since the genre of the books is LitRPG the author fills pages with made-up gaming text that rarely actually has any value or use to pad the book, which means more empty content in a story. It also allowed the author to bullshit an excuse in that the character can learn every skill imaginable. I could go on with how this character's actions have no meaning in development through the insane logic that the author introduced being "experience debt" but I would be here all week.
The author also throws in too many plot hooks for the character, seems to get bored with most of them mid way, and then abruptly shuts it down, conveniently forgets about it, or continuously delays it as with one instance, one of the plots from the first book didn't return until the fourth book and was tossed aside. And even then, this character never experiences a failure in any of these plots except one which ended up being a gain instead after some plot contrivance. In this example, the character's actions has no meaning because he doesn't actually grow from plots, they just exist, happen, and are done.
By these examples, and I could give many more, this character has no depth within their own story, a story that has 8 published books. So your argument for characters having depth based on stories can be easily disproven even if your character was published.
But that's not to say a character without depth is a bad character. There are plenty of characters who have very shallow depth but are still interesting and entertaining. Spongebob for example has no depth. He's a fry cook, he's overly excited, he likes jelly fishing, can't drive, and lives in a pineapple under the sea. That's an example of a character with barely any depth but still able to tell good stories.
What exactly are you giving us here? You keep thrusting character depth on everyone but you've yet to prove any of it besides "I've got written stories" but what is there? If we read these stories we could have judged them on their merits and maybe found the character interesting if they have very little depth, but you keep insisting on the character being highly in depth so that's all we'll be able to judge them on.
No.83964
>>83919
>my OC's really deep and fleshed out guise!
lol
No.83966
>>83955
If your only understanding of red panda is that they have a dark facial fur marking going down from the eyes, then sure, I guess.
There are several features that are remarkably wrong, even if we give the benefit of the doubt that the artist can only draw one generic type of muzzle as some catch-all. Most notably I offer that the ears should be more pointed and the colouration of the torso and abdominal fur should cover the entire front. Really, it just looks like a collection of random (somewhat related) animal traits thrown together by an artist that doesn't quite have a full grasp on animal anatomy - the arms/paws are foxish, the tail is raccoonish, the facial fur markings are certainly leaning towards red panda but the muzzle and nose is more of a canid's I guess. The body in general looks like some sort of compromise between otter and human. The ears are almost ursine in how rounded they are.
The question is how much of it is intentional and how much of it is a poor grasp of anatomy. Granted, a lot of these things are very, very subtle differences - identifying anything more than a difference between canid muzzles and felid muzzles is kind of crazy, since even within that classification there's a wide range in length, stoutness, etc..
No.83967
Old sketches of a character I haven't quite fully worked out yet.
Some criticism or questions would be nice since I haven't fully set him or his design in stone yet.
Or should I make another thread for this kind of thing?
No.83969
>>83967
The first most apparent remark I have is how exactly does he have a lizard snout with the appearance of scaled arms but.. fur on his head?
And if that's a Harry Potter scarf then please undo it.
No.83970
>>83969
>fur on his head
It's not fur, it's kinda like the soft-ish frills on the back of an iguana.
I'm just working on limited artistic skill unfortunately.
**I have to admit it made me think of that too after I drew it, but it wasn't intentional.
I probably just need to come up with a different design for the scarf or make sure I never color it the same.**
No.83971
>>83970
Frills are fine, but the way you drew them is definitely more fur accents.
Only remaining problem, then, is that we need to see his slit that hides his penis.
No.83972
>>83971
>we need to see his slit that hides his penis.
No.83973
>>83972
It's okay, we can pretend that you didn't just do that. Let's try again? Show us that cloaca.
No.83974
>>83973
I'll draw it just as soon as it becomes relevant.
never
No.83975
>>83974
All right, we can compromise. At least tell me about his boyfriend.
No.83976
>>83974
If you don't prove he's a boy we'll just have to assume it's not.
No.83977
>>83975
Well, he does have a bodyguard/packmule traveling companion that's nearly twice his height.
I've got basically zero work done on fleshing him out though, he doesn't even have a name yet.
Visually, all I've got is that he's probably going to have a musclegut-type build (more functional muscle from doing his job than actually trying to look good), he's significantly taller than Sawyer, and he's most likely going to be an alligator.
If you want to use your imagination, I can't stop you.
No.83992
This is my waifu, she's a detective and shadowmancer
No.83993
>>83992
>monkey
Gross
>shadowmancer
One of the coolest archetypes I've seen in a tabletop system.
Rarely see it pop up elsewhere though.
Screwing with shadows just sounds awesome, especially teleporting and melding type stuff.
No.84020
This place needs a "redesign my fursona" thread.
No.84021
No.84034
>>84020
Think a general fursona/OC thread would be better, rather than one with a specific goal like this one.
It'd be silly to make a new thread just to have everyone repost their shit though.
Maybe just wait until this one dies and falls to the bottom of the trash heap like all the others or something.
No.84039
>>84034
It could be put into the worldbuilding thread, if one of the criteria you have for a "good fursona" includes a backstory and world, instead of just "lol it's just like our world but with furries?".
No.84054
>>84039
>includes a backstory and world, instead of just "lol it's just like our world but with furries?"
I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with "reality but with fur", you can still make an interesting character like that.
Plus, if it's including OCs and fursonas, then the worldbuilding would be out anyway since a 'sona isn't meant to have any kind of special backstory or setting tied to it.
It's literally just a visual design used to represent the owner.
So there could be some overlap, but I'm not sure they'd mesh perfectly.
No.84058
>>83649
I always like seeing your bird pop up in my feed
No.84067
>>84039
>includes a backstory and world, instead of just "lol it's just like our world but with furries?".
I don't understand this. Sure, it can be a sign of laziness, but at the same time you can do something that's distinct from our world but is still very lazily or poorly built as a world. It's not intrinsically bad writing, and it can serve the very specific purpose of having something very familiar to the reader, which can usefully be contrasted against the supernatural or alien residents of that world.
After all, the core of the sci-fi root for furries does lie in the question of how beastmen would handle sociopolitical issues differently being much more like animals in structure than us humans. In a way, we humans get a pretty easy out in that all of us humans are relatively similar - a world more like Zootopia where prey and predators are living together requires a lot more careful consideration (which Zootopia, mind, did not offer.)
No.84068
While we're on the subject of stories for our sonas I too have one. I commissioned it and it's porn, plz masturbate to it
https://pastebin.com/TZS4Vcac
No.84072
>>84034
>>84020
>>84039
Kinda waiting on a decision about this
I want to make a follow-up post, but if I do I'd definitely be going outside the original topic of the thread into character building rather than just getting comments and feedback.
No.84073
>>84054
>It's literally just a visual design used to represent the owner
Increasingly, the line between the two has blurred. Reason being: a pure fursona is already impossible to begin with. One cannot choose which species best represents themselves, because they are not that species; they are human, which is roughly equally distant from a fox or a lizard or a Pokemon. Most of the time it's pure fantasy, anyway, where their "fursona" doesn't look like them, doesn't act like them, has a cool and exciting job and different hobbies, etc.. They are a 30-something fat computer programmer who plays video games, but their fursona is a Greek God of a tiger who is 19 and an assassin who enjoys competitive sports. If it's like that, what's the difference whether you call it a fursona or an OC?
My definition for a "fursona" is merely what a person chooses to use as an avatar. It doesn't represent them, per se, it's just what people know them as. If it's an OC, it's at least their main OC.
>>84067
It's not that it's restrictive as that it's lazy. If you start with "our world but with furries" as a base, and then worldbuild from there, that's fine. It's what most everyone (including myself) are going to do because they don't want to dedicate years of work creating a Tolkien-esque world that will not net them any money or influence. Also, what you said about familiarity.
What I was talking about was when someone's description for the world their OC/fursona lives in is "our world but with furries" and NOTHING MORE. It makes it clear that their character is for nothing more than sexual roleplay or porn commissions, where the goal is to get off as quickly as possible, and faffing about with worldbuilding just gets in the way. It's shorthand to tell the other players or artists that any items or locations or references can be just whatever's in their own bedroom. Eliminates thought for speed and convenience.
>>84072
At this point it probably doesn't matter too much. This thread is basically dead as to people posting their characters, and the "rating" idea from the OP was stupid, anyway. Might as well just post here. A better question is: what do you expect to get? Because if it's honest critique and intelligent suggestions about how to improve a fursona, you'll get precious little, if at all.
No.84074
>>84068
Not bad. You should get a sequel that goes full NTR
No.84091
>>84072
I disagree with >>84073 about not going to the world building thread. This thread is about roasting fursonas, giving nonsense critique and stupid suggestions about how to improve a fursona. Making this into a character and world building thread is worse than adding character building to the world building thread. It could definitely use more life.
World-Building Thread
>>79834
No.84093
No.84097
>>84073
>Might as well just post here.
>>84091
>I disagree with >>84073 about not going to the world building thread.
Well now what.
>Because if it's honest critique and intelligent suggestions about how to improve a fursona, you'll get precious little, if at all.
I feel like real critique is hard enough to come by no matter what, but it might be easier to get here.
Most other furshit sites are overwhelming hugboxes that'd probably tell me that they love my mediocre art, how he's "super cuuuute!!! >w<", and that they want to hug him or something anyway.
Even if I don't manage to get actual criticism here, at least I could take any roasting as hints about what might be worth changing instead of getting literally nothing out of it but warm fuzzies.
No.84099
>>84097
>Most other furshit sites are overwhelming hugboxes that'd probably tell me that they love my mediocre art
It doesn't even need to be mediocre.
No.84102
>>84068
Completely predictable. I could tell what the entire story was going to be just from the TITLE and the premise as laid down in the first few lines. So going on and on and on with the protagonist(?)'s confidence that he was going to win, as if his loss was this big twist, was just a waste of time.
Worldbuilding was decent, if only something would have been done with those societal implications other than a quick fapfic.
>>84097
That's all fine and good if we're talking about art critique, not character critique. Even disregarding the whole "hugbox" thing, the former is a LOT easier than the latter. Most people can tell what is wrong with a piece of visual art, but most people lack the language to describe what is wrong about a character (which is fundamentally in the writing). For a crude example, most people can tell you that Marvel movies are good and DC movies are garbage (if you're into capeshit, anyway); but few of them could tell you WHY. They'd say that the "writing is bad" or the "characters aren't believable" or the "dialogue is wooden", but couldn't actually help you FIX it. They smell a rat, but can't point it out, so to speak.
What I am concerned about is that any "critique" on a character is just going to be people telling you what they like (or dislike), what they would have on their own characters, and all varieties of kinkshaming. Does anyone remember the shitshow in the old dragon thread a while back, with the arguments over external testicles or no, dick or cloaca, and MOTHER OF FUCKING CHRIST that one cuntlicker that kept going on ad nauseum about why dragons are supposed to have dog-like paws? That's what I mean. Few people here can help fix a bad character; they will only suggest what fetishes you should add to make it fappable (to them).
But by all means, give it a shot. Nothing to lose.
No.84108
>>84102
>For a crude example, most people can tell you that Marvel movies are good and DC movies are garbage
Yeah, that's useless tripe that makes up a vast majority of comments and is why I think criticism isn't easy to come by.
>They'd say that the "writing is bad" or the "characters aren't believable" or the "dialogue is wooden", but couldn't actually help you FIX it.
I know, but comments like that are still way more helpful than "It's bad" and "I don't like it".
Not as good as actual, quality critique... but far from useless.
>What I am concerned about is that any "critique" on a character is just going to be people telling you what they like (or dislike), what they would have on their own characters, and all varieties of kinkshaming.
That's why you just don't immediately do whatever people suggest when it comes to crit about something subjective like a character or setting.
You want people to tell you those things so you can sort through their opinions and weigh it against what you think would ultimately be best.
Maybe you don't agree that the character should be brown, but you got an overwhelming number of people saying that it would look good.
All you can do is figure out how much you value your own opinion over pleasing theirs.
You can often get away with retaining details only you like and still manage to make people like your thing overall, so it's more of a balancing act than whoring your idea out to be changed by anyone willing to type out a comment.
This all goes out the window if you literally give zero fucks what anyone else thinks obviously, but I feel like modifying your ideas to impress others is part of being creative.
You can't stop kinkshaming though, just take it like a man instead of getting sad that someone on the internet doesn't want to fuck the same things as you.
No.84121
Yo are we still postin' sonas?
No.84165
>>84068
hot as fuck tbh famalam
No.84167
>>84121
You can't just take a character from a video game and say that's your fursona. Point of a fursona is to create something original that represents you.
No.84205
>>84121
>anthro Meowstic with a red coat
There anything more to him, or is he one of those purely visual design reps of the owner?
No.84254
>>84167
I know the whole point of an persona OC is to interperate an original image of yourself, it's just that ive grown so attached to the design of meowstic that i guess it's become glued to me now. I vastly prefer it over a fully orignal design. Maybe my opinion on it will change over time but thanks for the insight.
>>84205
The ladder. The only special thing I can think of is the ability to holo-projects copies of himself. Really what I tried to do was tell personality through character design. Did it woek?
No.84259
>>84254
>Really what I tried to do was tell personality through character design. Did it woek?
I'm not sure. Unfortunately, I just see an anthro Meowstic in a shirt. What aspects of his design are intended to suggest personality?
No.84265
>>84254
>Really what I tried to do was tell personality through character design. Did it woek?
All I can see is a plain looking coat.
Maybe give him one of those novelty shirts with some kinda design on it?
Kinda hard to get much personality out of a single piece of clothing.
Could also style his hair weird or something?
I mean, you can definitely get some personality out of a design, but you'll never get an entire character out of it.
I guess that doesn't really matter though, it just needs to look cute and all the personality comes from it acting like you.
Not sure what's going on with the color changes in the bottom left image.
It's spelled latter
No.84267
>>84259
Well, on the right I tried to convert character design the the shape theory in which the three primary shapes, circle, square and triangle, could give you a general feel of how the character is portrayed.
For example, I wanted to make the tuft and hair sharper, more rudged to symbolise a more "on edge, nervous" character. The stiff stance was kinda intended tbh as "boxy" looking characters are seen as hardy and strong. I'm still learning this stuff so probably didn't execute it like I wanted to, but I'm willing to improve.
No.84271
>>84267
>shape theory
That is really hard to apply alongside proper anatomy, which it also looks like you tried to do.
I'll admit I thought the neck fluff was standard for Meowstic, but looking it up the original design has much less of it and swept harder to the side instead of fluffed out.
I'm guessing the tails are held down to help sell his nervous posture, although I think keeping the splits in the hair at the ends would be a good idea personally.
Comparing it to the actual design there's more effort put into this than I originally thought, but he came out looking more rounded than squared off.
No.84339
Here he is, fresh off the /trash/ drawthread. Guelart is from a numenera like world except it's more sex driven like COC. He was a human priest that worships a god that's actually a highly advanced ailen satellite, it's A.I. used the nanomachines in the atmosphere to transform my dude into an anthro dragon. He travels with his futa orc wife and twink incubus husband, exploring ancient ruins for holy relics and spreading the gospel of his sky spook.
No.84342
>>84339
>A god that is actually an alien satellite that manipulates things on Earth by using a swarm of nanomachines in the atmosphere
This premise is a LOT more interesting that what you've used it for...
No.84346
>>84342
Thanks for articulating what was rubbing me wrong about that concept.
At least it's a premade setting, so it doesn't feel like as much of a waste.
Would be crazy to me if someone spent the time to come up with an entire setting like that for a fetish vehicle.
It helps that the character pushes a lot of my buttons though, ergo the desire to do a shitty scribble in spite of that.
No.84375
I would post but the last thing I want is for someone to recognize me on 8chan
No.84386
>>84346
>>84342
I don't find it that interesting, except for the sex stuff, that's just normal stuff in numenera
http://numenera.com
No.84395
>>84386
>that's just normal stuff in numenera
That's why I said it didn't feel like much of a waste, he just took something pre-existing and inserted his fat dragon into it.
It was a waste of the setting, but at least it's still being used by others for less throwaway stories that aren't affected at all.
No.84400
>>84375
why even make this post at all then?
No.84401
>>84395
Oh please, my shit isn't a waste of a setting, I just grabbed shit from different settings I like and combined them for my magical realm. godlike alien satellite is trope that's been explored before, nanomachine transformation is in every super hero comic, and sex driven settings have been a staple in hentai for god knows how long.
No.84445
>>84401
>Oh please, my shit isn't a waste of a setting, I just grabbed shit from different settings I like and combined them for my magical realm.
Oh, I thought you just made a porn character and put him in that Numenera setting wholesale.
>godlike alien satellite is trope that's been explored before
I know it's not 100% original, but it's definitely not used very often and it's a pretty interesting idea.
S'why it kinda sucks to see it used as part of a backstory for a character that just roams around fucking his husband and wife in space ruins.
I mean the idea sounds fairly hot, but trying to make a character with any substance out of porn seems counter-intuitive.
>sex driven settings have been a staple in hentai for god knows how long.
The fact that it's a sex driven setting is what kills it for me.
I don't have a problem with them getting laid, but making it the focus just ruins a character to me.
I think from what I've seen so far, the method I like the most is how Banished did it.
It introduced two gay bird characters, but all their sexual escapades are only relevant in completely separate comics being made on the side.
So you still get the characters and story, without having them cheapened by trying to make the smut relevant to the actual plot.
No.84453
>>84445
well take the idea and make yourself a better one, ok here try this, there are multiple highly advanced A.I.'s scattered around the world from various civilizations that have upped and vanish, these A.I.'s are fighting for some reason and use humans as their tools, through manipulating the nanomachines they alter the humans and have tricked them into worshiping them as gods.
No.84456
>>84453
>well take the idea and make yourself a better one
Why?
I'm not saying the idea is bad, just that it's a shame it's being used for porn.
No.84530
>>84386
>that's just normal stuff in numenera
You mean it's not even an original idea? That guy just made a self-insert porn fanfiction?
Just when I thought my expectations of furry writing couldn't get any lower. I shouldn't even be surprised.
No.84569
>>84530
No dude, I said it's like numenera and corruption of champions. What I took from numenera is the tech so advanced it looks like magic, nanomachines everywhere, and multiple extinct advanced societies. What I did was grab these, took it off earth, make all of the advanced societies aliens, and have the planet they live on be a layered with the ruins of these societies.
So in my setting the planets core is a massive computer that an entire race has uploaded their minds into, the layer above this was created by an alien race made of goo and had technology that lookes very brutalist and made of rock and crystal, the layer above that one was created by a race of robots and had tech that looks abstract and made of light and metal, the other three layers are unknown, and the last two layers where created by a two races of space elves with the one on the bottom being made when they were in peace time and the top layer being created when they had a civil war and destroyed themselves. Humans are a byproduct of these space elves devolving into a primitive state.
No.84575
>Fox
>Hyena
>Husky
What is the superior choice here for a straight acting powerbottom?
No.84576
>>84575
Yeen, no question.
No.84600
>>84569
>It's a planet that's not Earth that has this crazy history but of course right now everyone's customs are all exactly like humanity's and they speak English
>Implying a planet made of a massive computer and some layers of rock and crystal and shit could have a functioning geology or magnetic field to keep out deadly solar radiation
>Nanomachines, son
>It's still just a setting for fapfics
I mean, I admire your effort; but I do so in the same way I admire the effort of a child to collect a lot of Pokemon cards.
No.84606
Well Here's my fursona. He's a victorian Gentlestallion adventurer.
He's sort of a idealized version of myself.
No.84607
>>84606
Originally he was a furry Time Lord character I RPed on Second Life with other Doctor Who nerds, and originally was a fox before he regenerated but eventually he evolved and changed into my current fursona.
That Time Lord version of him I consider a alternate version of him in a different universe.
No.84611
>>84600
>I mean, I admire your effort; but I do so in the same way I admire the effort of a child to collect a lot of Pokemon cards.
You're posting on a Mongolian cave painting site, autism is the name of game here baby boy
No.84615
>>84606
>species: horse
Instant bonus points if you pick a specific breed.
Maybe one with a similar fur pattern if you don't want to change anything.
Not saying anything else though, 'cause I hate horses and I can't really rate that without being biased.
No.84617
>>84576
I guess yeens are kinda cool. I always kinda liked them.
I have a few ideas for his personality that could work, but I'm not sure what I can do for his appearance.
No.84619
what the fuck is this shit?
Blue fur, an inbred dude with a vag, kike hair?
Consider suicide or at least get some fucking taste.
No.84620
>>84615
Looking over coat colors for Horses I think the closest to his fur and mane and tail color would be either a some sort of bay or chestnut
No.84666
Are aardwolf's decent sona material?
No.84689
>>84666
Met someone with an aardwolf sona once. Guy was a real piece of scum And Brazilian so hand in hand with that
Didn't even have the mane. I'd say that animal needs a redemption of a good sona
No.84710
>>84611
Autism has nothing to do with being woefully uncreative and stupid.
>>84666
It's an interesting animal, but visually people are just going to think you're a punk hyena. I'm curious as to your reasoning for picking that, though. Do you eat insects, or just smell very strongly?
No.84712
>>84710
>I'm curious as to your reasoning for picking that, though. Do you eat insects, or just smell very strongly?
No.84717
>>84606
>He's sort of a idealized version of myself
Doesn't that just go without saying for ALL fursonas?
No.84766
>>84710
No but I'm a bug chaser :^)
No.84788
>>84763
Not sure what's up with the colors on the extremities, but the halloween theming is nice.
Any excuse to pair orange and black is a good one.
Not a fan of femboys, but bats have always been a species I think should show up more.
The red on the wings needs to go though, maybe add a bit of fuzz to the base.
No.84801
>>84763
It's way too kemonomimi for my tastes, but still cute.
>>84766
Nobody asked YOU.
No.84804
>>84763
Is it a girl or a girl?
>androgynous
>human hair
>piercings
No.84812
>>84788
I dunno either, I think it's just the shading to make him look spookier
Thanks for the critique
>>84801
That's what drew me to him in the first place actually haha
No.84814
>>84763
>that big ass head
Got anything that isn't a caricature?
No.84817
>>84801
He asked if I like bugs
No.84825
>>84817
Hot, snowball a poz load with me
No.86517
>>84073
>>84091
>>84097
>>83967
>>84072
Fuck it, I don't even remember what I was going to ask or why I drew this anymore.
No.86536
>>86517
Well, he's cute so draw some more.
No.86615
>>86599
Back-wings are okay so long as there is some suggestion of anatomy so they might actually work. Not like this when they're attached by a tiny stick that magically goes through shirts. As a rule, I tend to have a sour opinion of any furry anatomy that is an "accessory" rather than functional.
No.86628
Mine is trash and I'm probably starting from scratch, I like my snek companion though
No.86639
>>86628
>neon blue nose and fur
>purple eyes
What's the white stuff coming out of his mouth at the bottom?
Or did you just "erase" with white instead of an actual eraser?
No.86641
>>86639
My desktop died, illustrator is bugging on my old note 4 and I had to use white.
No.91693
No.91695
My sona! Please note I not very good at English or drawing!
She is a four-tails wolf!
I only have one art of her. Apologies.
No.91711
No.91750
a dumb generic character that is trying to hard and using neon colors as the main selling point.
No.91766
>>91749
>seven on an autist's scribble
Clearly thirsty and trying to get into their pants
No.91773
No.91778
>>91766
>91766
not really its just cute and doesnt have tons of dumb flaws
No.91780
>>91749
>filename
wew, stroking that ego there, little guy?
No.91880
>>91780
nah its a meme between me and a friend who drew that for me tbh
>>91879
so im going to go why i rate things more and lets start with your horse: it has only a few unique identifying features (the tattoos) the color contrast of the grey and white is poor and doesnt lend itself to a thought out design and the body type is extremely generic and samey, you have a sort of beard thing going on that closeup which imo is dumb because furries already have fur whats with adding human facial hair on top of it and the overall silhouette is just boring. Im struggling to find a positive for your oc but i will say i think that there is clearly an attempt for a better oc here, youre trying to branch out with markings but the way in which you did it just doesnt really give a good edge to it. Experiment with it a little more and give it some fire or personality of its own- let the oc be something more personal rather than a fuck profile. Overall im feeling a light to decent 3 on this one.
No.91881
>>91880
tbh im not all too much about being wild and making my OC try to stand out, though i dont know where you got the "facial hair" thing from but i guess thats how the artist made it out to be, i was thinking of getting a haflinger horse OC done in the near future. but those black lines are kinda my signature thing ive had them on alot of OCs over the years x)
No.91902
>>91879
Let me suck your horse cock
No.91906
>>91880
>Body type is generic and samey
This isn't a valid criticism. That's not how you criticise an artistic piece, if you were to ever criticise the statue of David and say "ah well his physique is boring and generic :/" people would (rightly) laugh you right out of the country.
The only thing that matters is a coherent and aesthetically consistent and pleasing design. Making something different just for the sake of it does not make an idea or image good.
For example, take your bara bird. The little eye of Horus thing you decided to do is fine. It's also as you would put it "extremely generic" so generic in fact that it's a type of imagery thsto been used a thousand times for thousands of years. Does that make it bad? Not at all, it actually looks quite pleasing with the colors you've chosen for your bird's feather design.
On the other hand, the piercings don't fit at all on your character and fail to highlight your bird's design in a positive faction, they're a eye sore and look out of place.
Then there's the body type, it's different, it's unique. It also looks atrocious on an avian. Had you chosen a bear or a raccoon or something it would look fine but on any type of avian the whole comedically obese look is absolutely ridiculous.
What's more is you clearly recognize this as a fact
at least on some level since it appears most of your art actually has your bird with a much thinner (and better looking) body type.
Your attempt at being unique has led to your character looking worse than before.
And frankly, your choice to make him fat is no different than the furries who make their characters look ridiculous and eye catching through using neon color patterns. It's certainly different but it's definitely not good.
No.91916
>>91902
come and get it lol
No.91918
>>91916
Do ya happen to have an FA or anything?
No.91919
No.91921
>>83649
>>82786
>>82510
>>82362
>>82357
You guys also post your fa/telegram/discord/whatever
You're all qt uwu
While we're on the subject could....
>>82154
No.91922
>>91921
Weird how the post got reversed like that
No.91923
>>91919
>>91918
I made a new account x) I use that one as a art dump now
http://www.furaffinity.net/user/fatherhoss
No.91927
>>91921
feypanda on furaffinity
No.91937
>>91927
I'd tonguefuck your bird's asshole tbqh
No.92024
>>91881
Me like horse 7/10
>>91749
Egypt Aesthetic is a personal favorite 8/10
>>86628
Snake's better 3/10
>>84763
Twinks are gay lmao 3/10
>>84606
Is this a JoJo reference? 4/10
>>84121
Pokesona/10
>>83967
Small scalies are good 7/10
>>83751
Very long snooter 4/10
>>83720
Would be scared to run into IRL 1/10
>>83649
Has the big gay Better looking in person 9/10
No.92025
>>92024
>Egypt aesthetic
>literally just a drawing of a head
Goddamn you are retarded, your opinions don't matter
No.92031
>>92025
There's more than one picture of him in the thread my dude
No.92047
>>82876
Big bara bird. Definitely bf material.
No.92070
>>92040
Yuck, stop posting literal garbage
No.92082
No.92083
>>92082
Throw those characters in the trash and start over
No.92085
>>92084
>pit licking
good taste
No.92093
>>91906
musclechub on a bird is god tier
hit or miss i guess they never miss huh 😈
u gon skrrt and hit the dab like wiz cloaca 👏
>>91921
@acedthebased on twitter please, no i dont rp and no i dont get horny with people who arent my significant other🤠
>>84375
just dont be one of those racists and ur good ik tons of big name artists who post/posted here
>>92024
birds are highkey the superior furry species so i cant pass up the opportunity to rate one, ik the bluejay community has like this thing where they all want to look extremely similar but different from certain unique markings so i thought for a while staring at ur oc it was just my friend grim but ill say this, bluejays tend to play it safe. you know the species is decent and the designs iconic but the trapping kind of comes if you want to be standout- as a bluejay its very hard to be and this is a good and bad thing; the big pro being that all bluejay art is ur art the bad thing being a lot of extremely similar characters. still, its decent so decent 7 coming out on this one.
>>92090
i like the body type but im not a big fan of slits and i feel like something else can be done to the face to make it stand out more and give it a bit more oomph so ill go with light 6
No.92098
>>92093
>Literally some brainless nigger
To the shock of no one
No.92102
>>92098
pretty sure aced is from switzerland or somth from the discord hes posted pics is white as fuck, still realy annoying liberal faggot tho
No.92126
>>92084
Brainless idiot
>>92085
Real hot when you lick deodorant-covered pits and swallow that whale blubber
No.92132
>>92126
Anon, you seem awful upset. Do you have a personal history with this dragon?
No.92647
>spending money on porn
Oof, cringe, yikes
No.94818
>>82137
This is just more proof that faggots ruin everything.
No.94819
>>92090
Stupid faggots fuck everything up. It's like you WANT to fuck everything up, like you're some weird, pathetic incarnation of the spirit of Charlie Manson.
No.94822
No.94829
>>94827
Trash need not post here
No.94844
>>94825
Why is the cup stamped in there as if for reference? Is it the source of her power?
No.94853
>>92084
Your oc is genuine garbage and you should stop posting here. Forever.
No.94867
>>94866
You know, anon. I thought retard dragon and autistic bara bird were as bad as these sonas could get but congratulations. You've somehow made something even worse.
It's ugly, the anatomy is all over the place and bee sonas in general are a sign of maximum autism. Please do us a favor and never post again, you absolute monkey
No.94886
>>94853
>>94867
Why don't you show us your OC anon? I'm sure we're all curious here to see how epicly awesome it must be
No.94891
>>82137
I think you're a lame-ass faggot retardo moron with incredibly bad color sense and no idea what design is who would be better off doing the An Hero.
No.94892
>>94866
FAGGOTS RUIN EVERYTHING!
No.94918
>>94886
>getting upset at criticism
>on a chan board of all places
If you want a safe space, go to reddit, if you don't want to here something honest then don't post your dogshit oc. Now shut the fuck up and get out.
No.94940
>>94918
I'm with you on the criticism, but you need to work on your critique.
>It's garbage
>Anatomy everywhere
>Bugs are bad
is all you've given, and it's not very descriptive of your issues or helpful in fixing them.
>>94915
Why's he look like he's worn out from running away after holding up a convenience store?
No.94944
>>94866
I've always hated this god awful yellow thing, how do you make bees so ugly?
No.94945
>>94944
By making it a human body builder missing some fingers and toes with a strap-on ass bulb.
The face is really the only non-humanish thing about him, and it doesn't look like a bee at all.
No.94947
>>94945
I had trouble thinking of a way to describe it, but that's it, that's perfect. A weird ass bodybuilder wearing an old ass judge wig that was accidentally thrown into the dryer
No.94948
>>94867
Um....the big bara bird and the glow dragon are hot as fuck tho anon. Maybe try getting your head out of your ass so you can fix that shit taste of yours.
No.94951
>>91695
Kobayashi, is that you again.
No.94962
No.94964
>>94948
>the big bara bird and the glow dragon are hot as fuck tho anon
Okay
How does that make them well designed or good characters at all though?
No.94974
>>94964
>bird has natural colors, the slight egyptian aesthetic acts as a hook rather than a deterrent
>the musculature is appealing without being absurd
>the cock ring looks good
it may not be your cup of tea but a criticism like 'poorly designed' doesn't hold water, it's wrong.
No.94975
>>92043
the snout on the second one looks fucking horrendous, also
>dick girl character
99% chance of being a self absorbed asshole
No.94976
>person screaming about everyone else's oc still hasn't posted his own
Every time
No.94978
>>94964
>>94976
I wouldn't take it to heart since it's purely subjective. Some people will like it, some people don't and that's pretty okay.
No.95025
>>94948
I'll give you a pass on the dragon, but not the bird.
No.95033
>>95025
Why do gaudy glows get a pass but a natural colored and aesthetically pleasing avian doesn't? Dragons are a shit species anyway
No.95079
>>94975
tfw I waited over a month for a roast this weak
No.95091
>>95079
roasting is just a bit of fun between us friendly anons, we don't roast you because you seem like a genuinely unfriendly and cold person. So, you're not worth engaging with.
No.95092
>>95091
There we go, that's better. A bit too quick to judge to be fully believable, but has some real bite to it.
No.95248
No.95361
>>95079
Who drew this? I like it.
No.95378
No.95422
>>95361
http://www.furaffinity.net/user/deyvarah/
The colors and quick shading were done by a buddy of mine, not deyvarah. I've really been wanting to come back to dey for more art at some point, but my money's getting pulled in a lot of different directions lately. They seem pretty chill too
>>95378
murr
No.95427
What about mine?
Nothing too crazy until RP details come up, mostly that she's got some anti-fetishes built in. She emits odor destroying particles masked as a clean blackberry scent which destroy surrounding musk and pheromones, clean metabolism from Shadowrun/Eclipse Phase, non-stick fur so no cum-marking or similar, her womb has been scooped and replaced with extra muscles to create a living flesh-light structure that pleasures her as well (last one needs work).
No.95438
>>95422
do you have a discord or something?
No.95440
>>95438
Yeah, but I don't RP if that's what you were interested in. I like to hide in my little corner of the internet
No.95477
No.95795
Here is my.
I try to do weekly War Thunder drunk streams too
No.95819
No.95834
>>95819
yeah, I like the color lavender and royal purple so I incorporate that.
No.95850
>>95834
Couldn't give him some purple clothes instead of applying it directly to his body?
No.95856
>>95850
I could, but I'm a special snowflake that has it on his body.
No.96612
>>95033
>why do gaudy glows get a pass
because other than that it's a rather generic twink character design and it honestly looks just fine, but not only is mister big bird a huge autist and stuck up cunt just like you, apparently but his oc looks like total garbage.
>fat
this alone should get it thrown straight in the garbage but
>feather placement looks unnatural and unappealing
>claws are too fat and look ridiculous
>random egyptian eye for no reason
see, at least with glowdogs, or glow dragons rather, it's overt with its special snowflake autism. It's honest, but the bird is a special snowlfake sperg oc that tries to hide it which just makes it 10x worse.
So, while the dragon still looks bad at least it's better than the bird, so I'll give it a pass, hell, I'll give most of the bad sonas in this thread a pass just because their owners don't shit up the place screaming and judging everyone else like cunts much like bird man does.
No.96657
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>>95856
be furry, don't let rule stop a epic time from happening.
No.97457
>>84167
Exactly how is it any different from taking a real or fictional animal and making a character out of that?
It's literally the same fucking thing it's just a different fictional animal that's based on an actual animal first, then modified to your own liking.
No.97501
>>97457
>Exactly how is it any different from taking a real animal and making a character out of that?
Real animals aren't other people's ideas
No.97507
>>95795
It's a gryphon so that's almost always a 10 in my book.
No.98176
Didnt you post this same thread like a month ago? Cant you fuck off?
No.98180
>>98179
Why does your character remind me of Sylvester Stallone?
No.98193
I wish I had art of my sona
No.98208
>>98176
Anon this thread is from September.
No.98212
>>98208
The great thing about forums is that new people can come along and revive an old discussion at just about any time.
No.99239
are the designs of my two characters different enough from eachother to not be clone-tier, but similar enough that you can tell they are apart of the same faction? and for ms.molotov (the fox character) which jumpsuit looks better on her?
also note that they don't wear a lot of tactical gear for multiple reasons, two of which are because they don't use guns and to keep it looking sort of cartoony rather than realistic
No.99243
>>99239
Left suit looks more dressy and stuff while the right suit looks more like something for in the field imo. Probably depends on her rank and what she's up to and all that
The two characters look different enough IMO. Both have greenish uniforms and a red beret, so that works too I think.
No.99248
>>99243
my mindset is that the don't really have ranks as they are apart of a really really rich evil PMC than can afford to bring soldiers once in a military back on the field by fixing their serious injuries like missing limbs, teeth, eyes, etc.
also, thank you for your response! would you be willing to answer a couple more questions relating to my ocs? im looking for advice on my oc's design and there's not a lot of places for it
No.99250
>>99248
If there's not really any ranks, I guess the left suit looks to me more like a navy thing since you can usually be a little more fancy with your uniforms there without issue. If it's a futuristic setting, navy = space ships big enough that they have people running around in them instead of stuck in a cockpit seat. Could work for a tank commander or something like that too.
You can ask whatever and I'll answer the stuff I feel like I have an answer for when I have a chance to
No.99254
>>99250
yeah, i was trying to go for a futuristic space ship type aesthetic.
okay, for my next three questions i would like to know:
>which jumpsuit looks better, the one on the left or the right?
originally i started with the design on the right but it felt a bit plain and wanted to give it some detail with the version on the left being the end result.
>does her design come off as super edgy, or does she look hostile just enough to be a villian without overdoing it?
>if you were to assume she were from an actual country on earth, what is the first one you would think she is from?
No.99262
>>99254
>which jumpsuit looks better, the one on the left or the right?
I personally like the left one better. Right one could still be good depending on what she's doing. It gives me vibes of someone who does something sneaky like spying or intel stuff or something whereas the one of the left seems like it's made more to catch someone's attention.
>does her design come off as super edgy, or does she look hostile just enough to be a villian without overdoing it?
I wouldn't call it edgy. I can see some calling the scars or missing eye or ear nick being edgy, but sounds like your PMC thing just uses a bunch of wounded vets. Eye patch + black and red color palette sounds like a pretty typical getup for the baddies.
>if you were to assume she were from an actual country on earth, what is the first one you would think she is from?
This involves a lot of pulling stuff from my ass, but at least with the uniform on the left, it says somewhere in Eastern Europe to me, though maybe the UK.
No.99263
How do you pick your fursona's species? Also, is it weird to make a fursona of the other gender? Just basically make someone I'd fuck?
No.99267
Is there some quick and easy way to make a character not look like a cub that doesn't rely purely on making the artist drawing them like an adult? This could simply be a matter of clothing or something like that. I'm trying to get some art drawn of the character here. I probably wouldn't be worried about this in the first place if it weren't for the fact that I get size difference art fairly often and I need a petite character to fill the pocket gf niche. I'm not going to go out of my way to appease people who are looking to get offended, but if it's a small easy change, no harm in doing it.
I do not want a short stack character either since I'm also wanting to have at least 1 character with smaller tits. First pic looks a bit derpy since it's a photoshop abomination, not an actual commission
I'm also not looking to discuss the morality (or lack thereof) of cub shit here or any of that bullshit, just interested in hearing character design advice.
>>99263
I just pick species that I like the aesthetics of and don't really put too much thought into what the tropes of the species are. I have a rather tall+thicc+busty character who is a marten even though martens are supposed to be small noodley things (so the complete opposite of mine). I have a fluffy snow leopard and a lean serval, so sometimes I'll stick somewhat to the tropes and all that.
If it's just there to get porn of because you think she looks murry purry, I personally wouldn't even consider that a fursona. I'm not the one calling all the shots, but I'd say that if you aren't using her as a stand-in for you, she's not a fursona. I don't think it's weird.
Bear in mind that this is coming from someone whose characters exist to get porn of and because they look murry purry. I also don't consider any of them a fursona since I don't ever use them as a stand-in for myself.
No.99287
>>99267
Subtleties regarding ages have a tendency to be lost in anthropomorphization in general (look at a dog that's 1 year old and 6 years old, vs a human that's 19 years old and 45 years old... we don't really see the details that make up age in animals as well as we do in humans, and many of the signs such as discoloration of fur could easily be malnourishment)
Additionally, a sizeable amount of furry artists aren't super well-trained on a formal basis to actually build the foundations for what aging we could easily perceive. This contributes a lot to characters being seen as "cub" simply because they are short, and obviously it's such a hot button topic that people are very eager to put forth their opinion on the matter.
The simplest solution is to adopt more animal traits. Take these pictures - all of them are anthropomorphized to a degree, but you could make very reasonable cases that they're all adult creatures (the corgi is the most questionable, but its face doesn't come off as specifically cub-like - it's just in a childish outfit). In particular, pay attention to the proportions - all the characters in these pictures have much longer torso and shorter limbs relative to what you would expect on a human, which tends to form the crux of how a character can look childlike - if their body proportions are all human-like, rounded for cuteness, and have a proportionally larger head, the character looks younger (example: chibi styles intrinsically look more childish). I would expect very few artists in the furry fandom to be skilled enough to actually be able to intentionally make use of other subtleties to portray age as well as make it look animalistic but not seem uncanny valley.
No.99317
>>99287
My issue with that is I get the majority of my art for the porn, so making them look too animal-like defeats the purpose for me. Probably going to go with a policy of just not giving fucks
No.99339
Pls no bully UwU
ok maybe bulli a little
No.99350
>>99262
thank you for your responses! it really helps to get a different perspective on my own ocs. for my next set of questions:
>should i spice up these two's designs? if so, what should i change or add?
>do these two look like they're atlwast somewhat related genetically?
theyre supposed to be sisters with the same father but different mothers hence the difference in colors.
>does the white one on the right look completely harmless and trustworthy, or does she look like there is something dangerous or evil behind her looks?
she is supposed to be a spy/assassin for the same PMC as the fox and jaguar characters i showed previously, which is why she wears normal clothes as disguses rather than wearing more militaristic stuff. basically picture something like hitman that also does spy work time to time
>what country do you think the white one is from?
No.99377
>>99317
That'll ultimately be the best plan. There will always be someone who finds something wrong - everyone's fursona is simultaneously too plain while being too unique, there's no perfect middle ground. For some people, there's just no nuance whatsoever - I've actually seen comments on canonically college-aged characters in a comic with a setting at a school being called cubs... It's best not to overthink it when some people just want an excuse to be angry.
No.99378
>>99339
MLP-style horse parts don't go well with realistic proportions. If you had a horse head that looked more like that of a real horse instead of a cartoon one, it'd look slightly better- whether or not it was on a quadruped or biped body.
No.99390
>>99339
>censoring drawn nudity on 8chan
>>99350
>should i spice up these two's designs? if so, what should i change or add?
All of my characters have been kept pretty simple intentionally, so my advice here might not be the best. That said, both seem fine to me.
>do these two look like they're at least somewhat related genetically?
I think it works. Both have the same basic body and head types, plus they both have that feather scarf sort of neck fluff going on. Can't see the tail on the white one, but bonus points if they have the same poofy tail. If you want them even more similar, having the white one have a capped tail like the black one would be great.
>does the white one on the right look completely harmless and trustworthy, or does she look like there is something dangerous or evil behind her looks?
I think the answer to that probably would vary depending on how the artist ends up drawing them. The black one here does look more nefarious than the white one, but I think that's partly the expression they're drawn with and partly my evil racist tendencies. To actually answer the question, dunno if I'd say she looks pure or if she's more a femme fatale. I'm leaning towards pure, but it can be hard to judge this stuff from a single pic. Something like this would probably be better conveyed through their actions than looks, but I'd say her looks alone could pass for either.
I wrote all that then read the text below it, I'd say you hit the mark.
>what country do you think the white one is from?
More a region than country, but Western Europe (France, Germany, etc.) is what first came to mind. The US or maybe Russia could work too.
I've got my own super srs headcanon about my characters. This doesn't sound like it'd work for you since I came into commissioning with no intention of developing the deepest of lores for my characters, but I used the art that I had accumulated of them to piece together some reasonable backstory stuff. I'm not super into world building, it's largely just to help figure out backgrounds and outfits, as well as how my characters will act in any given situation. I'm kinda in this phase right now with my dog character that I've been posting. I have her looks decided on, now just getting art of her so I can get a good feel of what to do with her.
>>99377
I'm not too concerned about it, but the concern I do have is the (small) potential for it to rise beyond someone merely calling my tastes in porn weird (rich coming from a furry). Blue character in the second pic is my dog. That WiP is largely what made me wonder this in the first place. If a fag is braindamaged enough to issue a fatwa on me over some size difference art, then that's too bad since I'm not buying this to make them feel good or happy.
No.99409
>>99390
victoria (the grey/black one) is supposed to be the rich, rude uptight type of person, she is supposed to be the CEO of the PMC. rosemary (the light grey/white one) does have a capped tail, but a lot of the artists ive commissioned tend to miss that detail. its great that you would think of that region, i literally had the exact same locations in my mind, though i would like to keep it vague where she is from exactly so that she can fit multiple disguises without looking out of place.
No.99410
also, i have three last questions for you/everyone else in the thread
on a scale of 1-10, what would you rate ms.molotov?
should i do something to her tail to make it look fucked up? if so, what? a few ideas i had where some of it simply had no fur on it at all after being burned off, or half of it just being outright missing after a being cut off by a torturer.
No.99414
>>99267
Younger animals have smaller snouts and appear cuter
No.99426
pls roast my boy. name is bad I know, but I've always been bad with them
>>99410
personally I'd give her 8-9/10, but I have a soft spot for military characters that aren't overly edgy or emo
and for the question you asked earlier in the thread, I'd see her coming from South America, but that's probably because I've played too much peacewalker
No.99437
>>99426
Design isn't bad, but it doesn't pop out very much. I believe that if you picked a better artist, gave him a less "nothing" expression and pose, then gave him a more interesting outfit it would pop out more. Also, the colors seem to just be all over the place. If you made that whole white section black it would look less garish to the eyes. If I looked at your OC at first glance, it would be a "meh" rather than "this is ugly" or "i really fucking like this"
No.99438
>Also, the colors seem to just be all over the place. If you made that whole white section black it would look less garish to the eyes.
Also I meant to add that I was talking about his outfit on the right for this part.
No.99450
>>99426
I agree with >>99437 about the colors.
Especially for a jester outfit, it should definitely be more colorful than black and white.
If the intent is for him to be a "bad" jester, that's humdrum and wears monochrome instead of displaying exaggerated emotions and vibrant colors, then why did you choose to go with that?
Is it supposed to be a contrast to how male birds are usually very vividly colored and need to dance to attract mates?
Not gonna lie, I definitely like what you've started with but there's still room to improve him.
No.99454
>>99410
I guess it really depends on just how beat up you want her to look, but I personally think the three things going on with her face should suffice. I don't like rating characters on a 1-10 scale because reasons, but I will say I like the general aesthetic going on with the beret, eye patch, and uniform. I especially like her in the bottom left pic there and the leftmost pic in the first collage. She gets positive marks from me for sure. Not a perfect 10/10, but I think people who give everything they like a 10/10 just are setting low standards.
>>99414
I never really stopped to consider that, but probably is good then that she's got a long snout and isn't being drawn overly cute. Going for more of a pointy aesthetic and mostly basing her off a jackal with a tweaked fur pattern. I might give up though and have people just use a jackaly fur pattern instead of the current mottled mess.
No.101747
HAPAS ARE SUPERIOR TO WHITES