No.107785
Allright, here's something that always bugged me.
Imagine you are writing a piece of furry fiction. You build the entire world the events of the fiction will take place, and the environments as you progress, but then, you have to think about what type of food the furries of your fiction will eat.
I've read, watched and played a lot of furry media and the food topic is always a obscure one on those. Either the origin of the food the characters consume is really vague, or it's used as a major plot device.
Canibalism? Synthetic food? Do they eat organic food only? How would it work? Wich one makes more sense?
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No.107786
Well that depends entirely on the rest of the setting.
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No.107789
>>107785
considering animals subist by eating other animals all the time
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No.107792
>>107789
So there would be segregations of species? Like, species that are prey and species that eat them? I can't think of a setting with a functioning society where things like this happens.
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No.107793
>>107792
> So there would be segregations of species? Like, species that are prey and species that eat them? I can't think of a setting with a functioning society where things like this happens.
It's ok for us, humans, to eat the meat of other animals because we are rational, and they aren't. We are at the top of the food chain.
But what happens in a world were everyone is at the top of the food chain, and is rational?
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No.107794
>>107785
I always admired the work of Brian Jacques for going into so much detail about food. They ate a lot of vegetables and fish, which apparently weren’t intelligent like mice and otters. The bad guys were a little less ethical with their food sources.
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No.107795
Read Kevin & Kell by Bill Hordbrock
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No.107797
>>107792
It isn't an issue if you don't make everything with a pulse intelligent. It's pretty easy to assume that the sentient species, if they're capable of eating meat, simply use whatever livestock animals their world has for food just like humans do. "earth, but everything can talk" is so overplayed it's kind of boring at this point, go for furfag aliens/fantasy races instead, and you'll have much more room to write something interesting.
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No.107809
>>107785
Insects and veggies.
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No.107810
>>107809
This image is just propaganda, trying to make people move to eating shitty protein sources so they are more easily controlled.
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No.107816
Zootopia apparently feeds the entire population with a Bug Based Diet.
Somehow everything is Bugs to avoid the Concerns of producing meat....probably a good thing, they don't show any feral animals so they'd have to Breed People for Slaughter...kind like something they did with Chickens in BoJack Horseman
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No.107832
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No.112997
>>107794
I hate to, like, sperg out this hard but in the Redwall series they eat dairy and all seafood including shrimp and crabs. It would zombify this thread even more if I posted every example, but here are a few:
"'Good October ale. Redwall's famous fer it, an' I'm the beat as brews it. Now, you want to sample some o' that with cheese an' mushroom pastie -- that'd make yer tail curl a bit.'
'Rather. I've always fancied m'self with a curly tail. Hi, Rosie, how are you gettin' on with the jolly old nosebag, wot?'
Hon Rosie waved a ladleful of summercream dip." (Mariel of Redwall, Ch. 29)
"'I won't eat pie or pudden,
Filled with grass an' roots,
For me a tart's a good 'un,
With ripe plump juicy fruits.
Take some cherries an' blackberries,
Honey so thick an' sweet,
In golden crust, all fit to burst,
Aye that's the stuff to eat, mates,
That's the stuff to eat!
Say nay who can, to mushroom flan,
All baked with onion sauce,
Unless you think 'tis better than
A crisp green salad course.
Sup cider pale, or nutbrown ale,
Oh isn't lunch a dream,
Surrounded by an apple pie,
With lots of meadowcream, mates,
Lots of meadowcream!'" (Lord Brocktree, Ch. 35)
According to the FAQ written by Jacques on redwall.org, "-cream" words refer to normal cream with flavors and seasoning mixed in. They also have no shortage of honey, where it comes from exactly is likewise left to the reader's imagination.
"'Mornin', Father, will ye be takin' some oatmeal?'
Glisam nodded. 'Half a bowl please, Perrit.'
She measured it from a steaming cauldron on her trolley. 'Honey, too, Father?'
Glisam smiled at her, she was extremely pretty and neat. 'Oh, yes please, and some nutflakes if you'd be so good, Perrit. Hmm, and mayhaps a few slivers of fruit.'
Deftly, she dribbled clear golden honey on the oatmeal, adding flakes of almond, chestnut, and hazelnut, topping the bowl off with some crystallized slices of apple, pear and autumn berries.
The Abbot dug his spoon in, stirring it all up. 'Thank you, that's just the way I like it!'" (Doomwyte, Ch. 2)
All the characters speaking are quite solidly in the "good guys" camp, but IIRC some of the villains flirted with cannibalistic ideas at times.
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No.112999
In Beastars, there's a black market for carnivores to eat prey meat (illegal in their society so the carnivores and herbivores can coexist). In the carnivore day-to-day life, typical diet consists of nutrient-enriched food items featuring plenty of soy and nuts for protein. Bugs aren't sentient (technically) and would be a good protein source, but it's not considered typical to eat them. This is actually a bit of a plot point, but it's kind of dropped to the wayside. I consider this to be one of the best depictions of that particular issue in a long time, though if we use a little bit more imagination and move off of Earth, we can easily satisfy their needs by having less sentient creatures for cattle and livestock analogies. If we got real serious with it, we could say most likely there would be the psychos who vie for livestock rights because meat has feelings, much like how here on Earth people are concerned about cow cruelty when they're going to be chopped up and eaten anyway.
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No.113001
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No.113006
>>107785
>Canibalism? Synthetic food? Do they eat organic food only? How would it work? Wich one makes more sense?
This, this is what has stumped me in writing my own attempts for so long.
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No.113023
>>107816
I remember a theory of them eating lizards because they considered reptiles sub-animals.
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No.113024
>>107785
I usually think about a branch of animals that didn't evolve to the point of the anthros in the setting. It can sometimes be a little overwhelming to have literally every animal as a potential anthro anyway.
You can also consider completely unique species of feral animals, or perhaps feral counterparts existing alongside the anthro species. Of course the latter could still introduce uncomfortable questions their society would struggle with. Something like humans eating primate meat.
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No.113036
Don't make every species under the sun intelligent, and this won't be an issue.
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No.113065
>>113036
one species has to be the apex predator. you cant even have 2 species with sentient intelligence without it being weird.
thats why they're cartoons. what you can do however is keep animals as animals. and then have the evolved forms of that animal. in the modern day, monkeys still exist, even though humans supposedly evolved from them.
apply that principle to every other dumb animal and food won't be a problem, you'd have anthro deer and normal deer, anthro cows and normal cows, anthro pigs and normal pigs, anthro rabbits and normal rabbits, anthro wolves and normal wolves, and so on. the normal animals aren't going to complain about being dinner like that episode of sheep in the big city.
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No.113070
>>113065
>monkeys still exist, even though humans supposedly evolved from them.
That's not how evolution works. Humans and monkeys share a common ancestor somewhere down the line but they're not directly related, not like apes. Moreover monkeys (and apes) fulfill different ecological niches than those that early humans took.
I agree with the rest of the post tho.
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No.113072
>>113070
its a cartoon nigga.
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No.113077
>>113072
>its a cartoon nigga
Nah I get that, I thought you were referring to IRL monkey-human relations
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No.113078
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>>107785
Coyote, stop trying to turn the group against itself
Protect me and and feed me and I will suck your sock
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No.113080
>>113077
Still, it's entirely possible for the ancestral species to still remain around even if others do diverge from it. It's not all too common, but certain factors do make it entirely possible- especially ones involving human interference in their evolution.
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No.113082
Another thing: the "current generation" is the first generation to have interspecies matings and offspring.
...and there's not any showing of a 1000 generations worth of mixing. Any chimeras are 3-4 species at most. Pure-breed individuals are the majority in the community, instead of the other way around.
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No.113094
>>107786
It depends on the setting. I've only ever seen furries as human, in my own fiction. In that case, eating feral animals is OK.
I entirely agree with this post:
>>113082
There's no reasonable way for furries to have naturally evolved on a single planet. You have a couple good sci-fi options, though:
Every species of animal-person is from a different planet. Or maybe at most, not more than a small handful per planet.
Animal-people were invented by humans on purpose, whether based on humans, or uplifted from animals.
I generally just avoid it, taking furry to be more aesthetic and superficial than meaningful in my own stories.
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No.113100
>>113094
>There's no reasonable way for furries to have naturally evolved on a single planet.
Prior to the past century, there was a clear defining line between the different races of humans.
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No.113109
>>113100
Fun fact, Germans and French used to be considered different races.
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No.113113
>>113100
> there was a clear defining line between the different races of humans.
If you mean the various subspecies of homo sapiens such as neanderthals, that's not the same thing, not even close.
>>113109
because nationalists are usually morons
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No.113116
>>113109
But, they ARE different races.
Why is it the only continents on the planet that doesn't consider the fact that different nations formed around different races is modern-day Europe and North America.
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No.113118
>>113100
The greatest line is between Sub-Saharan Africans and literally everyone else having Neanderthal DNA. Like, early neanderthals where BLACKED into extinction and then became modern humanity where imminently afterwards they became paler, sort of like how there's a lot of DNA from an ancient African Migration in Greece compared to the surrounding areas which where wiped out and replaced by other post-migration groups, presumably due to the area being a peninsula so invasions by other early humans where much harder.
>>113116
Early human societies where too small to encompass and entire "race" and any that reached a certain size ended up taking over others. In the case of Japan their northernmost islands are home to an ethnic group known as the Ainu who are phenotypically similar to early Europeans due to convergent evolution. The only other peoples descending from the same ancient migration wave they do are small black islanders and brown people from the Himalayas who all look nothing alike. With the black islanders being genetically identical despite their extreme physical difference.
To quote Mussolini:
"Race? It is a feeling, not a reality. Ninety-five per cent, at least. Nothing will ever make me believe that biologically pure races can be shown to exist today.... National pride has no need of the delirium of race."
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No.113119
>>113113
>nationalists are usually morons
communist detected
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No.113121
>>113109
>Fun fact, Germans and French used to be considered different races.
Thats like saying the sun isn't real because people use to worship it as a god but now we know its not.
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No.113146
How the hell did a thread about what anthro animals eat become a race-thread? /pol/ pls go back to 4chin.
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No.113158
>>107810
Someone's been watching too much Snowpiercer.
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No.113167
>>113146
Someone pointed out that prior to the 20th century, different ethnic groups were considered much more distinct that they were today- and some sperg took exception to it and decided it was derailing a thread in board of degenerates for.
Anyway, unless you're going for a setting where the fact the number of intelligent species being in the dozens or hundred is more a byproduct of aesthetic tastes- it generally pays of to have how and why they all exist in the same place explained or expanded upon. Whether or not it's some competing species thing or space opera stuff is really up to you.
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No.113212
>>113146
Because americans are at the whims of the media complex and you're supposed to believe in 2020 that racism is still the struggle facing humanity, and immigration is the same thing. If I could save all you american furries from yourselves, I would. I care. But I'm not a murderer. But you gotta help me love you.
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No.113232
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>>107785
Is food your fetish, OP? It's always nice when someone pays homage to your fetish. Sometimes I've thought about taking on fetishes for someone if I liked them enough. Food isn't my fetish but I was thinking how much nicer it must be to be with someone with a food fetish than some other fetish. People can surprise you and I'd love to see his reaction to my face at "I have something to tell you... I have a food fetish". I think I'm alone and I hear police sirens nonstop and shit is going crazy.
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No.113234
>>113094
>There's no reasonable way for furries to have naturally evolved on a single planet
Nah, there's fair room to get creative designing the circumstances that made different animals evolve towards anthro characteristics. No need to get too lost making it extremely scientifically plausible as long as it makes enough logical/narrative sense.
That said, there's a lot of fun to be had in-
>Animal-people were invented by humans on purpose, whether based on humans, or uplifted from animals.
>>113212
Go easy on the kush, anon
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No.113235
>>113232
Also meant to quote this in the kush comment
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No.113245
>>113232
Why is this guy posting in every thread with schizophrenic ramblings and attached gay porn? This is like the 4th one and I thought it was just drunkenness but it seems like real mental illness now
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No.113275
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>>113235
>>113245
Thank you for your concern, I made 1 or 2 - can't remember a thing, but don't worry furry keeps me sane and highly tolerant of fetishes such as OP's in my mental space.
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No.113351
so basically the schizo killed the thread
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No.113357
>>113275
Dude, Op probably doesnt have a "feeder" fetish or whatever, And i don't know where to start about the other thing, get some help. Or stop you're lame attempt at trolling.
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No.113358
Bugs, fish/seafood, fantasy monsters/wildlife, or even each other depending on what kind of setting or society you want them to have.
Even typical human food like pastries or pasta isn't really off the table.
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No.113375
>>113357
>stop you're
>you're
Ouch my grammar sensibilities
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No.113380
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>>113357
You mean vore? Nah, they like making it obvious, they can't help it.
>>113351
Sorry. Your threads are like Jenga and I just pulled out. Might wanna clean the pieces.
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No.113388
>>113380
> I just pulled out.
No you pushed in, and it wasn't my thread.
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No.113461
>>107810
>>107809
If I'm going to go on a strict arthropod diet then why wouldn't just eat crustaceans like a sane person would. Just farm land crabs and crawdads for food.
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No.115146
>>113351
Only if you let them
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