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File: 4f4e20e6d0dc211⋯.jpg (336.18 KB, 2560x1370, 256:137, impossible-burgers.jpg)

 No.128962

Collegefag here, Trying to bulk by simply eating as much as humanly possible.

Right now Im getting a lot of my protein from the hamburgers from the cafeteria (each patty is 20g protein and I get two twice a day)

These things are obviously fatty/unhealthy as hell, but if i'm trying to get bigger anyway does it matter as long as I reach my protein goal?

 No.128963

>>128962

>but if i'm trying to get bigger anyway does it matter as long as I reach my protein goal?

Yes, it matters. Blind obsession with obtaining protein from any source can easily ruin your health in the long run - by gaining weight in the wrong way (getting fat) or by becoming unable to gain the weight you want (muscle). The things you eat have consequences. Burgers can be a decent source of protein if you know the ingredients, but in your investigations you may frequently find that at least the buns are made with unsavory things such as soybean or canola oil or that the patty was cooked in such a vegetable oil or that the patty isn't all beef and contains soy protein as a filler.

Ruminant meat is a good source of protein, because ruminants turn most of the polyunsaturated fat in their diets into saturated fat in their intestines. Even better than burgers alone, which are typically composed of muscle meats with little gelatin, would be to also eat the liver 1-2 times per week and the gelatinous cuts such as oxtail, tendons, etc. Shrimp are another good source of protein, which is low in fat and high in the extremely important and anabolic cholesterol and is an excellent source of the rare amino acid taurine and minerals such as zinc and selenium. Collagen hydrosylate (gelatin that is soluble in drinks) is good protein powder as it supplies the amino acid glycine which many are deficient in. Milk is another excellent way to obtain protein and even offers the convenient option of selecting how much fat you want.

Extra protein in an athletic context is there to rebuild things after you wreak havoc tearing shit up, but if you supply an abundance of carbohydrates throughout the day, catabolic stress hormones are kept lower and subsequently protein requirements as well, because muscle tissue is better able to survive without being given up as fuel when cortisol and adrenaline come calling. And a lower fat diet helps with the oxidation and utilization in general of glucose that comes from those carbs. Polyunsaturated fats are accumulated over time in various tissues and even the mitochondria of cells where they work against the proper utilization of glucose and block the actions of thyroid hormone, so if your diet is low in them and low in fat in general, you will be able to build and maintain muscle better over the long term while also not aging as much as the general population. When your diet is chronically deficient of certain key nutrients such as thiamine, magnesium, sugar, vitamin B3, etc, you will find it more difficult to get away with lower fat intakes however.


 No.128967

The nu-age debate as to whether a clean bulk with the proper amount of protein:carb ratio etc. versus the old school dirty/clean bulk that lets you eat whatever the fuck you want.

Granted, you won't find an easier method of getting more calories than eating heavy amounts of real meat. Getting the rest of the calories you need from excess amounts of saturated, unsaturated, fats and processed garbage isn't always the best idea. But granted, some burgers are just that fucking awesome. It's whatever really.


 No.128979

File: ab5d001939081a1⋯.jpg (331.24 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, 1407535501965.jpg)

Let it be known, that I'm a collegefag as well, and I know how damn expensive burgers are by themselves. In general as well, before being a collegefag.

Those damn things are expensive as fuck, especially in meals.

If you bought your food whole and learned to cook you could easily get +80g of meat a day for three consecutive days with a dollar box of pasta that'll last you half a week maybe and some sauce that would last you a month for like 10$. Rationed with protein shakes? You're looking pretty damn good in a week.

This is a self-improvement board after all, not just fitness, so if it makes you feel better to eat junk food then go ahead. Being depressed and unhappy, with what, or, because of what you're eating isn't that healthy.

NOTE

College meal plans ARE NOT worth it. Not even from a regular, non-fit person's standards looking to eat whatever to stay alive. They're typically for shit food in small quantities and can cost roughly +100% more than buying your own food a semester. Make sure to calculate your college's meal-plan offers carefully and plan an amount you'll need roughly a week or month for that semester. Consider private loans if you need, and work on campus (limited areas typically) if you can, but do not waste +$1,000 on starving yourself with junk food. I'm not fucking kidding, please be smart bruh.


 No.128988

>>128979

I'm looking into meal prep rn. I have a bunch of boil-in-bag rice and im looking for ways to prepare a bunch of chicken to make it last a long time.

How long can chicken be refrigerated? any other food advice is appreciated.


 No.128993

File: 7b80194f1a4842e⋯.gif (847.06 KB, 499x450, 499:450, 7b80194f1a4842e0e779b7088e….gif)

>>128988

Chicken can be refrigerated for like a week at most, frozen or deep frozen for much fucking longer, and cooked from being refrigerated it will last roughly another ten days - even if having been cooked on that last day of freshness.

You're gonna get pretty fucking tired of eating plain rice real quick. Don't limit yourself to one thing.

Cook chicken differently if you can as well, not just one way. When you first start cooking for yourself you're probably gonna have a natural habit to cook more than you need and eat more than you should (yes, a scale is worth it, especially for fruits and vegetable flak).

And you'll think your cooking is okay, but is it presentable and appetizing? I mean you could always do this shit here - https://youtu.be/qjlpBiQjzPg?t=390 - but I wouldn't recommend it personally, when you can just eat smaller quantities of tasty food in a presentable and just as efficient manner. Not everyone has the same tastes of course, and you'll manage to eat food you cook even if it might taste like shit because YOU cooked it and can trust what's in it and how it was made, but still, it can taste like shit and you might never know it so be aware.


 No.129042

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>>128962

Your buns and cheese have protein as well.

Today I've pigged out on a year old tub of cookie dough and some Fanta soda in attempts to stay awake this last 24 hours having only eaten two small bowls of chili/burgoo and two protein bars at the start of the day. So about 70g's of protein at like 2000 calories worth of food and beverage? Compared to 1700 calories worth of food at almost 200g of protein and just under 100g's of carbs? Eh.


 No.129055

Okay so I went shopping and got the following

Boil-in Bag white rice

Campbells chunky thai soup

Frozen Chicken breast

A cajun sausage that looked good

Im thinking of just combining them all, letting the soup juice soak into the rice like a sort of gumbo. (I live cajun country)

Then dividing it into containers and cutting up a whole chicken breast and a chunk of the sausage for each container.

Right now i have enough supplies to do this for at least 4 meals.

what should I get/do for future meal prep?


 No.129060

File: af94bd81a3b88ae⋯.jpg (240.46 KB, 613x1362, 613:1362, 1411635224071.jpg)

>>129055

I like tuna/salmon patties for bulking, lots of protein, pretty cheap too.

Oh, and buy nuts in bulk, they're great to snack on.


 No.129066

File: a983863abd7852e⋯.jpg (1.54 MB, 1000x1879, 1000:1879, DIY MRE (Ration Pack).jpg)

>>129060

Nut shill, nuts are expensive as fuck.

>>129055

Cajun fitness meals? Sounds dope player pimp.

What you need for future meal prep is actual equipment to cook with and shit to put your food in, and a refrigerator wouldn't hurt.

Every serious /fit/izen looking to cook for himself must invest in herbs and spices.

He must save his meat and vegetable scraps for making broths and stews.

He must weigh his ingredients before and after having been cooked.

Start there. Also, having a good cook book is a pretty good idea as well.

you can always do vacuum sealed rations


 No.129118

>>128962

I like to buy at the start of the week and then cook on each day when I can, since I enjoy cooking.

Prepping could also apply to measuring equal amounts of veggies and preparing cooked meat.

Then, if you aren't cooking on each day, you're prepping like this video >>128993, where you just heat up what you've made.


 No.129119

Everyone is a troll or really fucking stupid.


 No.129120

>>129119

Basic knowledge for the benefit of others isn't trolling or stupid and I don't know who gave you that idea.


 No.129123

>>128988

I just posted this, 129122

Overnight oats actually works, in case you're curious. I've just never bothered saving for jars so I would have to settle with cups or a bowl. I guess you can just prep the oats when you make your dinner. Then look up smoothie boosters.


 No.129124




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