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 No.120739

Is this legit? He's got no loose skin or anything.

 No.120742

no


 No.120744

I'd star off with an easier protocol, like alternate day fasting or 5:2 diet. Once you see how that went for you, you can aim for a 5 days fast. What this guy did is not impossible but it's rather rare for someone to follow through a month's fast from the get go. The longest recorded fast by a fat man has been 382 days http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2495396/pdf/postmedj00315-0056.pdf


 No.120765

File: 2ef83b94d2405c4⋯.gif (51.57 KB, 300x367, 300:367, pepe wizzard.gif)

>>120739

I have completed several 48 and 36 hours fasts without any real problems before. A classical 5 day water fast was a initially a goal that I have set up for the month of May but your post has inspired me to start tomorrow.


 No.120766

>>120765

I meant to say for the month of June tbh


 No.120789

It isn't physically possible to lose that much weight in that time, even if you were to somehow eat literally nothing at all.

Let's do some quick maths.

Now, first and foremost, this guy looks like a manlet, but let's give him the benefit of the doubt and peg his TDEE at 3500kcal a day. This would require you to stay active and whatnot, which would be a pain in the fucking dick on 0 food, but let's pretend.

Now, this would ALL be a calorical deficit, so we're up to 3500*28 = 98000kcal total deficit.

Assuming ALL of that would be taken from the fat supplies, you're looking at a total maximum of 98000/7830 = 12.5kg of fat.

12.5kg of fat would be significant and noticeable, but it wouldn't totally transform you like that guy looks to have. Even then, you have to bear in mind that this is all SUPER generous calculations, and in reality, you'd likely not even get anywhere close to that. Definitely not legit.


 No.120790

>>120739

If someone had the willpower to not eat for 28 days they would never be fat to begin with.


 No.120801

>>120789

3500 kcal would be something like, 1500 calories above his resting rate, which is basically impossible to achieve during that period ( you won't find any data about a human being that active for a whole month without eating).

Being realistic, you could lose about 10kg of raw weight, INCLUDING water weight.

>>120790

You are ignorant, it is a lot easier to fast when you got all that energy stored.


 No.120803

I remember reading how fasting is supposed to be really good for your hormonal health so maybe he's just getting some natural roids from his thyroid


 No.120809

>>120739

this is shit.

fasting for any extended period of time fucks up your body. see the 'Minnesota Starvation Experiment' it'll fuck up your head severely.


 No.120811

>>120765

>>120766

Can you check in and let me know how it goes, Croatiabro?


 No.120828

>>120809

The guy in the video didn't starve himself, he had enaugh fat supplies. There is a difference between starving and using fat.


 No.120829

its bullshit, spending 28 days without eating is starvation, you WILL DIE,

people can go a few days to a week without eating at all, but its incredible painful and harmful to your system

eg: this is not to say you can't use food replacements like Soylent,

and second fact: you can't grow muscles/get toned without having protein intake, and even without growing you need protein to upkeep


 No.120833

>>120829

It's not impossible as >>120744 showed. As long as you take vitamins and drink enaugh water your body won't miss anything.


 No.120834

>>120829

In the follow up video he mentions that he actually lost a bit of muscle during the fast. The only reason it looks he has more muscle is because he was training for a year while still fat building muscle underneath the fat; So when after all the fat burned off you could finally see the muscles.

What's interesting is that he didn't work out at all during the fast, he says he just "stimulated" each muscle every day so that they didn't degenerate too much.

Does this seem more legit now or still naw? Honestly thinking about doing a one week fast now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inRCKUeA4fY


 No.120839

File: a574bd4b715fba9⋯.png (115.77 KB, 253x253, 1:1, 1450849418754.png)

>>120739

ISHYGDDT


 No.120842

>>120739

I ate nothing but bread/rice, water and some tea for about a week and lost quite a bit (mostly unintentionally, since I meant to work it off) of chub, along with little exercise (basic push-ups, sit ups, a short jog down my short street, etc.).


 No.120852

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>>120811

checked

I’m 48 hours in, initially I planned to do a water fast but after reading a study that I will link below and going through some stuff by Dr. Sergej Filonov, I decided to the drop water as well (just for keks) and went for a dry fast. I have a pretty bad case of cotton mouth, though and last night felt a little rough, so I might be drinking water again by tonight or tomorrow. Other than that, I feel completely fine.

Went to the gym before as well, doing a workout consisting of only compounds (vertical pull/push/, horizontal pull/push, leg press, abs and lower back) and I feel no negative effects. Not being able to shovel down a post workout meal is kind of a bummer, though.

Will check back when I'm done

http://www.karger.com/Article/FullText/357718

>>120811


 No.120853

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>>120811

checked

I’m 48 hours in, initially I planned to do a water fast but after reading a study that I will link below and going through some stuff by Dr. Sergej Filonov, I decided to the drop water as well (just for keks) and went for a dry fast. I have a pretty bad case of cotton mouth, though and last night felt a little rough, so I might be drinking water again by tonight or tomorrow. Other than that, I feel completely fine.

Went to the gym before as well, doing a workout consisting of only compounds (vertical pull/push/, horizontal pull/push, leg press, abs and lower back) and I feel no negative effects. Not being able to shovel down a post workout meal is kind of a bummer, though.

Will check back when I'm done

http://www.karger.com/Article/FullText/357718


 No.120857

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>>120739

Wouldn't it be safer and more efficient to fast just having some chicken broth as post-workout meal and a bit of water?

That's what I've read some time ago and it worked for whoever did it, don't take my word for it tho.


 No.120884

>>120739

Starving yourself is not a viable option for losing fat. Usually you gain everything back and more when you start eating again.

You have to cultivate more long-term thinking, which is probably why youre fat in the first place.

Change your diet around (cut a lot of the sugar stuff) so that you can maintain it for years while getting leaner slowly but surely.


 No.121026

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>>120852

Ok, so I did switch do drinking water that night since I felt like Tom Hanks in that movie where he’s stranded on an island and talking to a volleyball. It made a world of a difference and I won’t be omitting water next time for sure.

Other than that, I felt better on day 4 and 5 than on day 3, which surprised me a little. The gym did feel harder than when training in a fed state but not as much as I expected. The longer the fast went on, the clearer became memories from the past. Not sure about the hows and whys but it was something quiet noticeable and pleasant.

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2128695-hungry-stomach-hormone-promotes-growth-of-new-brain-cells/

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3106288/

This time I also left out coffee and diet soda since it has to be broken down by the liver which technically breaks the fast. It also makes you piss more than necessary, which is very detrimental to your electrolyte balance. Electrolytes are key to feeling well while fasting, that’s why you shouldn’t drink too much anyway, especially not early on when you need it the least. I also got diarrhea shortly after I ate my first meal last night but this is to be expected and not a big deal. Just make sure you ease into eating again

Anyway, I think I’ll be doing this again. It is a challenge but a rewarding one, in my opinion.


 No.121079

>>121026

Nice dedication. Did you make any weight loss progress?

Also I could almost swear you can't go longer than a few days without water.


 No.121107

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>>120828

Where are you going to get your micronutrients from?

>>120829

>even mentioning the name S*yl*nt here

You doing HRT or something?

>>120834

>he says he just "stimulated" each muscle every day so that they didn't degenerate too much.

That won't stop atrophy if you have zero protein intake. You do also need to exercise to preserve muscle, and you won't be able to be hitting PRs while doing so, but that doesn't mean doing one pushup a day or something. Your protein needs increase when on a caloric defecit.

>>120852

>I decided to drop the water as well

I have no idea what would even possess you to do something like that. Unless you need to drop weight fast for a bodybuilding competition or weigh-in for a fight, this can only incur negative consequences.


 No.121177

>>121079

>Did you make any weight loss progress?

After refeeding it seems like I have lost 1-2kg but my jeans has gotten noticeably looser and the abdominal region looks and feels as if there is less fat.

>>121107

>I have no idea what would even possess you to do something like that.

Mostly curiosity and muh Russians tbh.


 No.122658

>>120739

He doesn't have loose skin because when you're fasting for an extended period of time, your body goes consumes proteins off your body to repair your muscle. It's phenomena called autophagy and it actually has a lot more health benefits than previously thought. As part of autophagy, the body generally understands that it doesn't require that excess skin as it continues to scrounge for additional protein for metabolic turn-over. Skin is fat and protein and water so it is a viable source. Dr. Fung can go into further detail regarding it and extended fasting itself.

As for 'gaining' all that weight back, it really is a question of lifestyle change. As you get closer to your target healthy weight, it would be unadvisable to continually go on 7+ extended days of fasting. While you're obese or very overweight, your body will burn about 90% fat and 10% of lean body mass due to turn-over on your metabolism. This is where the 'meme' of 'starvation mode' comes from, in that people assume that because of the 10% expenditure from lean body mass means that you're wasting away and losing all your gains. The reality is that as an overweight or obese person, you actually preserve more lean body mass than a traditional calorie restrictive diet. As for metabolism, this is again a meme. Increased energy expenditure and calorie restriction was the general advice that most people give. However it actually is more complex than that. Your insulin sensitivities and levels are what heavily determine everything from your metabolic rate to hunger levels. If you traditionally restrict calories, your body ramps insulin production. What ends up happening is spikes the release of ghrelin, which is the hormone associated with hunger pangs, alongside reducing your metabolic rate so you're burning less calories. This process does not stabilize either, and will continue as such until the person begins consuming a surplus amount of food once again. This is why diets, of all variety, have almost never resulted in permanent weight loss for their subjects, and the basal rate which you burn calories is very difficult to make up through increasing work.

Various fasting protocols operate on the same principles of keto. Carbs are converted into glycogen by the liver, and is used as fuel for your body (glycigenisis). Glycogen is your body's immediate fuel source, while Ketones (fat) are what it stores for emergency use. By limiting (20-50g) or removing the access to carbs, your body does not have glycogen to carry out its processes, so it has to begin using ketones as energy. Ketogenesis (not be confused with ketoacidosis) is when your body is using ketones as its primary source of fuel. This process can be an annoyance when you first go through it, and often you have symptoms that are dubbed 'Keto Flu'. These symptoms will pass within a couple days to a week, depending on if you're eating keto or fasting (fasting is much quicker given how you are denying your body any access to carbs as opposed to a limited amount). Ketones are important because they lower your insulin levels and over time, increase your sensitivity to it. Like a domino effect, this also limits the production of grehlin which is also important because it limits your hunger. My personal experience, along with what I read, is there is generally a two day hump before your hunger levels stave off. Now this isn't an easy process and it takes work, but I think I've made a case for its viability for weightloss.

Of course you need to speak to your physician, but it generally is inadvisable if you have:

>Medication that require food

>existing health conditions

However with that being said, there are surprising levels of work arounds to those issues, after speaking to a physician who is familiar with fasting protocols.

TLDR: Fasting has been pretty effective for me and the science behind it is sound, it's just rough for the first couple days, and there are a lot of flexible ways to approach it as opposed to the hard fast.

Here is a video that can explain this in detail

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIuj-oMN-Fk


 No.122685

>>120739

Not eating for a month doesn't sound healthy at all.


 No.122729

File: 04b26ac3dbf4a48⋯.jpg (47.2 KB, 592x448, 37:28, 89374092gh0938hg2ih09384h2….jpg)

>>120739

>no food for 28 days

from fat to muscular in a month with this one simple trick, gyms hate him. you can go fuck right off and kill yourself immediately you stupid nigger.


 No.122741

>>122658

>Fasting has been pretty effective for me

Show belly pics


 No.122749

If you do fast, be sure not to have a large meal your first time eating again. When your body is in starvation mode and then you feast, it stores as much as it can as fat.


 No.122794

>>122749

You fucking faggot, stop spreading that stupid shit.


 No.122797

>>122794

If your goal is to immediately fast again right after your fast-breaking meal, human biology would have you store as much fat as possible. That's what we evolved to do in such a scenario. Obviously, one meal's worth of maximum fat cell creation isn't going to be that bad in terms of looks, but it isn't wonderful for your system and if somebody is willing to starve himself for a month to lose weight, he ought to be fine with eating less for his first meal back. Eating a huge meal also will leave you hungrier in time for your next meal, training habits of eating overly large meals again. I don't see why you hedonistic lardasses have such a problem with regular caloric dieting.


 No.122798

Didn't Karen Carpenter die from refeeding syndrome?

rip baby boo


 No.122824

File: 6eda563cd6cdec4⋯.gif (1.49 MB, 237x336, 79:112, 6eda563cd6cdec42129e6f29fb….gif)

>>122749

>tfw fasted three days with the intent of eating a large meal tomorrow

Am I going to lose gains and get fat???


 No.122830

>>122824

Why can't you just ease back into it? Alternatively you could eat a large meal but with no carbs, and keep eating very few carbs to remain in ketosis and burn lots of fat.


 No.122863

>>120857

It's not good to have a gelatin-based diet


 No.122918

>>122830

So that's not what I did. I went out to eat with family for father's day, and ate way too much. I spent the night trying not to vomit, and the next day feeling like my colon was on fire. I've shat multiple times since. Everything is awful. Important lesson is that if you're fasting ease into your first day eating again.


 No.122942

>>122918

Did you happen to take pics?


 No.122944

>>122918

I told you so phaggot, get well soon.


 No.123326

This is legit, but some of the weight will return. Most can be kept off though if you simply eat healthily afterwards and not return to the eating habits of a fat fuck


 No.123530

>>122658

so is it better to alternate day fast, or to fast for an extended period like 30 days for max weight loss?




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