/doomer/ - Doomers Club

this is gonna take some meditation but I'll be back in this thread.

>Why do you think it is this way?

technology mostly, rapid acceleration, society putting pussy on a pedestal, opiates (mostly in the states), basically the wrong people get punished while those that kiss the feet of the oligarchy and act like a good soygoy, even if they are scumbags like school bullies, sluts who won't keep their legs closed and only open for procreation, drug pushers, etc, the fact these people can call on their "dad's rich jewish lawyer" or "call the cops", like in the case that a burgular can sue for getting hurt trying to ROB YOUR GODDAMN HOUSE, a bitch can cheat on you but if you react violently to her being disloyal you get thrown in jail and shanked to death by good goy inmates who worship cunt more than actually having a legit brotherhood with one another, is why. everything is backwards from what it used to be

>Is it this way for everyone? If not, for whom? If for only some, why?

no, not necessarily, though society fucks them in the ass eventually in one way or another, though they usually lick their wounds and recover quick (double if they're female), others are eternally fucked and just are naturally unlucky

>Is it absolutely such or only in ways?

absolute. Kojeve talked about an 'end of history' which will happen to all. and then the door shuts forever. for everyone.

>Can it be a matter of degree?

can you rephrase this?

>What would a circumstance, situation, or object (not only people) be like which would demonstrate this pitiable, and unpleasant quality?

the fact most people go in day and day out without wondering even though its happening around them, they cannot see despair, only indicators, like a homeless bum in street or some woman getting mugged, they quickly brush it off and move along even though their lives are essentially without purpose but they never question it once and just repeat the same lines over and over again. others, actually see this and often go nuts or an hero, etc. its too much for them depending ones' own mindset and how much they can take in.

>Is it relative or absolute? Is there a being that is completely ideal and beyond this? Or is even the noblest person merely a less primitive and pathetic person?

likely, but humans are pathetic mortals who can't see this so they make up excuses that it doesn't exist (in the case of atheist absolutists), but by and far human nature never changes, and we repeat the same mistakes in society without learning from it. we do though, get new ideas, though the time for those ideas is running out, we have a limited set of modes. it could be far fetched we'd ever commute with the divine, because we are limited in our interpretations. but there's always that chance.

Because the wrong side lost WW2 and racial in-group preference was destroyed. Everything is deracinated consumption now, we are just ambulating on waiting for the current system to fall. There is no higher purpose for us, whereas at least the nigs spics poo and chongs are actively encouraged to breed. Our parents fucked everything up because they dropped every tradition and ideal in favor of the system that won. Turns out that fucking wrecked our lives though. Life and the universe is already complex enough with unity. When everyone is pulling in different directions it's not clear whether each step you take is even leading down a fruitful path. So we spin in consumption and self destructive behavior. And the shitbags among us who may even be in the majority treat their children like shit. No purpose, ruined childhood, husk of a being. Every time we make progress there is something to derail us, and no shortage of ways to self sabotage. Even despair will be mainstreamed and commercialized soon. Expect to see Doomer t-shirts sold by jews within this decade.

>>3951

Fucked up politics is why this board exists

>>3952

fucked up politics is simply a manifestation of fucked up people who are simply a manifestation of a fucked up existence. there were never any solutions

>>3953

True, just reminding anon that the whole reason we're even here complaining about our shit lives on a website born from shitty politics is because of shitty politics

>>3954

implying humans can sustain a system of decent politics. and no you have tunnel vision on this politics thing. people in caves were bummed too.

tl;dr it's the jews

>>3956

I wouldn't know about that, I wasn't there

>>3932

the main reason existence is a nigger is that it is only based on feeding fucking and fighting. who ever does this best, lives on and evolves to do it better and become dominant in there AO. men that can sit around and think this out, and articulate it with speech and writing aren't the most likely to breed or win a fight.

any society that wishes to be here in the future must recognize this truth, weaponize it, and make it a system of conquest. i believe that is the history of this world. i also believe that is the only strategy forward in such a violent place.

however, there is still a level of wisdom needed here. to truly conquer a planet, and the rest of existence you will need language, and technology. this is why niggers aint shit. you do need a thinking and inventor class. but for these big brains not be being killed by the warrior class you need to have a tribal identity where you work together. this also means you need outsiders.

however, these big brains also must fuck and fight or their genes will not live on. another issue is that if you become too dominant in an AO you will get fat and weak. so youd have to keep the enemy alive in order to have something to fight, at least as long as it takes you to build spaceships and start conquering other worlds, then you could waste them.

so technically existence is a "high yellow" nigger

my .02

>>3932

>>Why do you think it is this way?

i believe in something i call incompletionism. its easy to disguard this theory as a catch-all scapegoat, but i'll tell it anyways.

if all of us knew everything, and we were all complete and whole in perfect symbiosis with every other living thing, we would be automatons. large populations would act like swarms of bugs in unison. if someone needed to die everyone would agree who and that person would just kill themselves with no fear whatsoever, knowing that they are in fact do the right thing for the universal plan. most people would sit around doing nothing.

but if you make a complete creature and then remove a vital piece of its understanding, the "WHY" now you have something that needs solving, something that needs seeking out. you have motion, you have life.

this WHY is a gap bridged by different belief structures as many as there are people alive. this is why no one agrees on anything. you have people with strong beliefs who will fight you, people with weak beliefs who will follow you and people with no beliefs who make no effort.

this causes all of the manifest diversity of thinking, spirituality, creativity etc, and also all the conflict. it is a beautiful idea, that we can be in such a similar situation as people (same bodies, same planet) but be worlds apart in our thinking and actions. it can also be a nigger to deal with because in such a volatile and chaotic existence sometimes you get fucked by circumstance and end up an omega or alcoholic or just someone that's had enough.

its a theory i never put much time into, but it seems to make sense to me. it also explains the permanent lack of a solution that perpetuates throughout world history. its just a non-stop war of ideas forever, but that's the only thing which makes motion, which is life.

>>3932

>Or is even the noblest person merely a less primitive and pathetic person?

i wouldnt say noble. but certainly the happiest people are low IQ. high IQ is a curse, and the majority of mensa niggers dont breed, or participate too much in society, as they have nothing in common with the average nigger. they always seem to want to leave the group and become alcoholics.

>>3932

>Why does the cruelty of the bell curve hold sway so that the pernicious and immoral Jew can overwhelm by perfidy the superior Aryan tribes?

jews win because they are RUTHLESS, have absolutely no qualms whatsoever with killing, raping, stealing etc. they are also fiercely nepotistic and tribal. they consistently use the outsider as a means to reinforce group solidarity by brainwashing each other to think they are under constant siege. if group sentiment becomes lax or there arises too much infighting, they will even stage attacks against themselves to scare the outliers to come back to their tribe and only find safety there. they use fear, the most potent weapon for control that exists.

they are also always on OFFENSE. as parasites they take great lengths to ensure control of their hosts (enemies.) they will weaponize their winonas to bring host race genetics into their group so they can appear like you for better infiltration. they will change their names to your names. they have thing thing were they will even try to go to nazi rallies because they are just drawn to the host.

they also act as a financial collective, funding any eterprise or campaign that benefits their group. Whites are financial individuals.

i will stop here because anyone can just fucking go to /pol/ to talk about jews. i dont want doomer talking about this kikes more than as necessary to make a point.

>>3987

>All bad things are the way they are because of weakness on your part.

you have much to learn.

>>4002

>Nigger, do you know what it means to live in a post-Soviet shithole?

implying that is the only dark place in this world. how small minded

>You merely adopted the darkness. I was born in it, molded by it.

thats cute, come back when you're not so naive.

>>3956

>people in caves were bummed too.

Boomer plz go

>>3937

>can you rephrase this?

I meant could it be that some things are more or less of the quality of being bad, primitive, or unfitting. I think it is obviously the case that it is a matter of degree, and you answered that it is in a way when you said some can have it better than others in various ways, or some can face it more than others. I was probably not creating very exclusive categories there.

These are the brute facts that I often notice, which you mention. It becomes a case where there is objectively no good reason to be happy about it, even if one were in a situation that were well-compensated by the world. Because "sooner or later". There is a thread now about Tom Sizemore, and how his condition turned out after his career which was looking good for a long time. It became banal in the end, especially when compared with the aesthetics of the art in which he participated (like "Heat" and few of those others I liked).

Laptop's out of juice, I'll give my own missive tomorrow! (if there IS one…)

well I'm a die hard primitivist…the matter of degree is determined by how artificial something is, not how natural it is

>>3973

The Jews' Achilles hell though is two things

1) they run out of money

2) they're feminine by nature, and always attack by proxy since the days of Jesus Christ. making them do their own work (I tend to believe that the holohoax myth was created because hard work feels like dying to jews) having to face their adversary head on, instead of using patsy frightens them to the core. when everyone gets sick of their shit, they're fucked.

>>4025

>you're not a hopeless loser, I'M the hopeless loser!!!

Fine, you convinced me.

>>3962

Perhaps there could be a cult of honor in all classes. A true college of "Warrior/Scholars" could exist and ensure that scholars do not descend into faggotry, whilst warriors do not descend into barbarity.

>High Yellow Nigger

Kek

>>3966

It accounts not only for why things can be entropic, but also why there can be a form of entropy that bedevils most beings in this world. There is a limit they are born with, whether being an African that can't abstractly think in any real way that is normal for another race, or being a race that can do that, but cannot conceive, based upon any "complete" faculty, the nature of right and wrong in truth and certainty. Cognitive and ethical dissonance is a bridge between two worlds kept separate forever, the world of the animal, and the world of the Ubermensch. There is a built-in, seemingly unfair struggle, as if someone where constantly trying to PREVENT the Ubermensch. Perhaps it is the Jew, but I feel he is just a tool for another being. I feel there is a parasitic force which for all intents and purposes is the very manifestation of evil, like evolved cockroaches or something. They secretly rule all this realm which was meant to be destroyed. Perhaps the Aryan beings here are actually prisoners of a cosmic war, and are being experimented on to create both a food/energy source as well as a testing ground for figuring out what "makes us tick". That would also explain two things at once: Why we have a world that is effectively a prison world and why everyone here seems to live as guinea pigs at the behest of their rulers who pretend to them that both of those conditions are not the case (you are free, goyim, free will goyim, karma gonna getcha goyim, you win some lose some goyim).

>>3973

Good points. There is an underlying mechanism here: The inversion of form and content. The usurping of substances by masquerading appearances. The "knowing the other mind" without sympathy, so as to manipulate it as an object. Strategic Machiavellianism. They are right on the threshold of being able to understand the better world of the Moral Being, but they never took that fruit. They were always those who could understand the "zero sum" and "prisoner's dilemma" yet never felt any reason to ask deeper questions about them. They are pure psychopaths, bred by both their genes and culture to be cunning neanderthals. They may even have evolved efficiently like some sort of "thing" (The Thing) in a way that their brains or something else about them might reveal. So they love it here, it's their back yard they seem to think, and to them it is not so much a nigger as a useful wetback if they have their way.

>>3991

Imagine someone who would never rebel against anything. They would never care to notice the hypocrisy behind anything, never see the weakness that hides behind a facade of strength. They are niglets are they not? They never lived, and think this means they might not die.

>>4064

Hard work is not unlike battle. It makes you exert something within you that puts you right on the edge, like Sisyphus and the absurd world, like Hitler and Jew world, yet the battle awaits. You could be doing anything, but you are digging. There is a weakness in not facing hard work like that of not facing hard battle, not facing death. That's why they want everyone else to do those things for them, so they can be in the eye of the storm. To create a calm eye for themselves (making existence an obedient wetback), they force everyone else to endure nigger storms.

>>4148

I'm facing jail time. its ogre. gonna pen my own Mein Kampf in Jail if I can't get this fine paid off.

>superior Aryan tribes?

if you are superior, why do we control the key positions in every single country of this planet and every single political system?

the truth is that humans are trash. not only niggers or muslims. every type of humans. most of them are utter trash and there is no point in trying to make them into something better than they are. hitler and mao both tried this and they failed. in the end, as soon as the guns were taken away from their heads, they returned to their old animalistic ways. They are cattle animals with utmost primitivstic behaviour and it is best to treat them as such. Farm animals for profits.

>are actively encouraged to breed

what use is it to them to breed? they are producing low quality biologic waste that will never amount to more than a debt slave for the rulers of this planet which is us by the way. Do you really want to have 10 children and then explain them why they are dirt poor and their lives suck? What kind of parent would want this future for their children. So the low quality humans keep breeding because they are literally too retarded to understand their shitty position. They create the next generation of lowlifes that will never amount to anything and live in poverty their whole lives.

>>4064

very funny goy

we literally own the printing press. in every single country of the planet.

We create money out of hot air. How can we ever run out of money if we can just CTRL+P it?

But I will share my wisdom with you goy and tell you what the end game is. The final act of the great plan.

It is simply feudalism. Once the entire world is indebted into oblivion they will be reduced to literal slaves for us. Private people will spend every single penny above minimum wage to pay back debts. Governments will have to sell all their assets which are property of the people basically to pay their debts. Of course we will buy those assets and then generate profits out of them forever. Private households will give us all their wages either in tax money or in debt interest money. We will be the new class of feudal lords and you will be reduced to serf status after the middle class is destroyed.

The only way to stop this and save the economy is to declare all debts owed by private people void. Of course your government will not do this because we own them already. But the roman empire did this and it saved them for a few more hundred years. If they didn't, Italy would have had feudalism 1000 years sooner than in the middle ages.

This cycle of centralisation of wealth is always the same. First there is guilds. Then the guilds are transforming into cartels with more power. The cartel uses its power to briber government for laws that protect them and maximize profits. regulations keep out competitors and set an entrance fee for anyone who wants to play in the game. In the end they own the entire country and can overthrow the government because the government is broke and cannot pay their own personnel.

In the end the cartels don't even have to pay taxes at all because who would be there to mess with them when they are the most powerful?

Greece is the blueprint for the future of the world. we are now at 200% debt to gdp ratios in many countries. In the next crisis in 2019, the lending will go higher and the IMF will step in to fund those bankrupt governments because central banks already are at the end with their magic. Of course the governments who take our money will have to comply with some things that will be beneficial for us to take away all those assets that are still in govt hands. For pennies on the dollar of course. Just like in greece.

>The world seems to have this sort of arbitrary display of brute organizing of minds into a mode of relation to the body that makes the mind something embedded in and enslaved to the body

It seems to do this in consistent ways with regard to perception, and in widely varying ways, even among closer-related species. It seems to care not for the higher-IQ worlds. It seems that the lower IQ worlds are preferred by the world, and almost as if there is a threshold in mentality and intelligence, and even moral character (all a sort of correlated set according to the author of the appended essay), a threshold that, once crossed, is in stark contrast to the underlying levels of life and experience, and of the world in which those foundational levels seem more attuned. A strong awareness of this exists in all higher-IQ races and their cultures reflect this, but their similarities and differences are secondary here to the similarity they have in recognizing a certain breach being crossed when intelligence, abstractness, self-awareness, extended spatio-temporal awareness, and motivational/perseverative/ethical and moral consciousness gets past a certain mark.

>I have gotten the overall sense that this is the threshold that changes the world from being a paradise into a hell.

<And that the Semites, especially the Jews, have a radically different response to this threshold and cannot cross it in the same way as Aryans, for it is not their native potential to do so at all

<And that the races of human in this world are all therefore niggerish compared to the Aryan races, for they have no sense of an abstract distance and differentiation from the world in certain ways that Aryans do.

>I have the radical sense that they belong in this world, so that is why by and large they do not consider themselves separate from it (including in advanced Asian thinking on this), and they feel a deep community with the world on a characterological level even when they are very intelligent and abstract-capable.

IGNORE ISRAEL FLAG NIGGER POSTING

>>4159

just because you ignore a problem it does not magically dissapear.

screencap this posting and mark my words

new fed chairman just further raised interest rates. president trump predicted correctly that he is popping the asset inflation bubble now.

>the stock markets already had their worst december since the last crash.

>company yields are at all time highs

>stock valuations are at all time highs

>company stock buybacks to artificially increase ROI for investors is at all time highs

>company debts are at all time highs

Just like 2007/2008

the next crisis will be liquidity driven. Liquidity is the heroin of the economy. Once the economy is denied this stuff for too long, things start to go mad. Of course we will step in and deliver them the liquidity they need. In exchange for ownership of all their assets and/or all their future earnings.

Oh and don't think your gold/bitcoin/stocks/real estate is going up in this crisis. Dollar is king just like in every crisis. But after the crisis you can buy assets for cheap money and wait for the next bullrun. Good luck goyim

>>4165

you're annoying. if shit crashes i'll just start greasing kikes in your honor

>>4165

Well you're not wrong. What advice would you have for someone to prepare for this situation, given no debt and a small/moderate savings? And why bother spelling this out for us? Sympathy, confidence that nobody will act on that knowledge anyways?

>>4156

you need to go away. this is a kike free board. except your women, which we will breed with and wipe out your kike genes.

>>4507

Thanks man, really great info and completely in line with everything I've seen over the past 15 years. The last thing I'm stuck on is whether to go back to work for more liquidity (massive salary) and scale down my business efforts, or continue to focus 100% launching and scaling my SaaS business. I've got about a 1 year cash runway including operations and believe it will make me goofy rich but it will take 1-2 years to gain momentum. I'm just scared I'll be caught out if things collapse around that time frame. Any advice? I really don't want to spend the rest of my life in front of a fucking computer screen.

>>3932

Hello, good morning.

Your questions are pretty complicated, I'm going to go to sleep and I'll come up with an answer some time later.

>>4535

does it make you have nightmare at night, that I invaded your precious safe space?

>>4540

>I'm stuck on is whether to go back to work for more liquidity (massive salary) and scale down my business efforts, or continue to focus 100% launching and scaling my SaaS business

give it a try

if you fail, just go back to what you did before. just make sure you don't burn any bridges if you quit.

sometimes you need to fall on your nose many times before you hit the jackpot. successful people all have one thing in common. they never give up no matter how shitty their outlook might be.

you can also try to do a ramp down / ramp up strategy. while you stay employed you work on free time on your own project. slowly as it grows, you can cut your hours at your official job and shift more focus on your own business.

Or if you are a banker at the city of london, just take your christmas bonus and start your own hedge fund in january.

>I've got about a 1 year cash runway including operations and believe it will make me goofy rich but it will take 1-2 years to gain momentum.

sounds solid to me but don't underestimate the time it may take until it takes of

also contact friends who might set you up with customers or long term contracts

go to conventions and make your service known to every possible customer.

your solution is worthless if nobody knows about it.

>I'm just scared I'll be caught out if things collapse around that time frame. Any advice?

well the collapse will be about fantasy companies and fantasy jobs getting thrown under the bus snapchat and all those trendy apps mostly and possibly also tesla because they have no future without government impementing ban on oil-fueled cars. If your service has a real market, there will be demand. If you are solving real life problems for customers, people will want your solution. Especially if it is faster/cheaper/better than the competitors or the processes they have had so far.

I am always happy to see entrepreneurs, especially on imageboards.

My wish would be that everyone on earth was a selfmade man and has his own business.

Life would be much more exciting.

>>4555

that was a good one. I will remember this

>>4587

I was a lifelong neet and then I started picking though junk for things to sell on ebay. I wondering how the coming recession will effect the ebay market. On the plus side, there should be a lot of opportunity for me to acquire goods at very low prices, I just wish I had more cash built up to take advantage of it.

>>4589

I am proud of you

and ebay is here to stay

no need to worry about your hunting ground

>>4587

Damn man, I wish I had white friends half as helpful. Overly self-deprecating yet at the same time crabs in a bucket and even when I mentor them and open doors, I get nothing in return (they are happy to throw me under the bus for ethnic food or virtue signalling, though)! My product is B2C and provides real value for the user far beyond its price. I've got marketing down, the product is solid and better than competition in every way. Based on 3+ years of grueling research and development and 10+ years of industry experience before that. Just have to follow through now. I think I'll push full steam ahead as I already quit my job many months ago. Your ramp down/up strategy sounds great and also familiar. Makes me wonder if we are reading some of the same books. Never thought I'd get such a great perspective here of all places and from you of all people. Cheers!

>>4587

One more thing. If you've never heard of the website micromentor there are lots of people on there from all over the world who are putting in great effort to pull themselves up by the bootstraps. It connects subject matter experts who want to volunteer personalized advice with entrepreneurs who are stuck on aspects of the business process. I go on there from time to time to give advice in my areas of expertise. Most of them are very grateful for it and act on it as well. Might be up your alley.

>>4602

I feel the exact same way about my friends. Mine mostly seem to float along in life and hinder themselves in someways, despite having massive goals. It always amazes me how stupid humans can be in regards to self improvement. You aren't going to get into med school if you are complacent and content with being in the 50th percentile of your premed class. You will never be a renowned mathematician if you aren't applying yourself 100% to your work. You won't work a high level software job if you dick around and play vidya all day. The depressing part is that they recognize the pathway to success and just choose not to take it. How the fuck can you say you are chasing your "goals" if you just spent the weekend partying and trying to hook up. You sound like a person who can actually apply themselves and commit to working hard. I hope the best for you in life Anon. Good Luck.

>>4602

Is that you Dan?

Well what did you expect. Most people are just mediocre creatures.

Their lives will be spent in drunkenness and occasional brawling.

Some of them even learn how the world works but then they are not bold enough to play at the poker table that is the global economy.

The same ones will cry most about the players.

I am glad your solution seems to be good.

Hopefully more people adopt the entrepreneur mindset in the future.

>reading

I read zerohedge and watch keiser report mostly

also libertyblitzkrieg sometimes. The rest is just common sense.

Favorite books are from Mises and Hayek but also anything of Austrian economics.

So to say, I was a doomer in year 2010 already.

>>4603

Never heard of that one before. Maybe I check this one out when I am bored.

Thank you.

>>4610

as I mentioned. Most people are just average.

Don't expect exceptionalism of them.

>>3932

And to anyone interested in the topic.

The Cantillon effect describes well why our current economic situation is fucked and why we cannot get out of the stagnation until the next crisis flushes out all the bad debts, investments and zombie companies of the past 30 to 40 years.

>>4142

i do believe this world is shrouded under an evil spiritual force

>>4145

the multi-generational incest probably depleted their frontal moral lobe and ability for altruism. they are desert people that never needed to trust the outsider like people of the north did