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“Your existence is a momentary lapse of reason.”

File: 01ccb82c5cbb04a⋯.jpg (612.26 KB,1024x1471,1024:1471,neuromancer.jpg)

 No.53726

The subject of this post may not fit perfectly into the category of 'cyberpunk', but my justification for it is

that we users who come here want to discuss topics and share our opinions with people who share a common

mentality or interest, in this case it is the commonality of 'cyberpunk'.

The main topic of this post is the Internet and social isolation. I will affirm that the Internet and computer

technology has made humans more socially isolated from each other and consequently feelings of loneliness has

become more frequent in the general population. In all forms of text-only communication, there are a number of

factors missing from online communication. Making a post on this board we are not able to see

the faces of each other, so we cannot read the expressions on our faces which is something we naturally do when

we interact with another person in meatspace. We cannot listen to our voices and then we cannot perceive and

interpret the tone of our voices, a quality of social interaction that, for example, is essential in detecting

sarcasm. We are not able to physically touch each other, we cannot experience tactile sensations of affection

with hugs or kissing or even sex. All of these factors are important in forming profound relationships with

other humans. As such, we can recognize that in communicating with each other in the Internet we cannot form

deep, intimate bonds with each other. I belive that this is the cause of our feelings of loneliness, at least

these are the reasons that I think explain the feelings of loneliness I experience. Do you feel lonely?

Also, we may think that online communication is a form of social interaction but I will assert that this is not

accurate. We are able to communicate with each other but not interact with each other, as what I have stated

previously, we cannot physically touch each other and therefore we cannot interact with each other, yet we are

able to exchange information with each other (communicate) but communication is not necessarily interaction

(mutual physical contact).

Now I find inspiration from the genre of cyberpunk to address this issue of social isolation. William Gibson

described the Internet, or something like it, as a consensual hallucination that the users perceive. Our

experiences in the Internet could be made more socially intimate and fulfilling if there was such a device

that would interface directly with our brains to induce false sensations and we perceived these sensations as

the 'cyberspace'. This device would be able to generate sensations of touching another person or even the

sensation of sight to perceive wonderful colors, we would be able to interace with objects in cyberspace by

stimulating our sensation of touch. This is all just an idea and not an original one either, nonetheless I

believe that I have made my point sufficiently. What do you think? Has the Internet and computer technology

made you more lonely?

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 No.53727

File: ebda7f960d2a7d7⋯.jpg (886.76 KB,1654x2480,827:1240,neuromancer.jpg)

No, I have made myself more lonely, tech was merely an enabler.

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 No.53733

File: 425576dfcd09276⋯.jpg (19.15 KB,236x322,118:161,0981f5ca8641dd4ddbff43f8fa….jpg)

It's an inevitable hurdle as the demand for constant throughput only continues to increase at an almost exponential rate. We will be able to use images and tactile gestures to break the limitations of alphanumeric encoding.

Will these sensations suffice for interaction in meatspace? Will we find these full filling or profound as experiencing the real world? As an older ape… I'd say no. Nothing beats the real.

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 No.53740

It has made me less lonely. I enjoy interacting with people with shared interests. I don't want to interact with every other person physically or more specifically, sexually. I find the idea repulsive. The interaction being limited to text and images is more than than enough.

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 No.53741

I prefer interacting with nature IRL.>>53726

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 No.53747

I don't feel lonely when interacting with people using the Internet, but meeting face to face is more satisfying. Maybe that's because my friends spend more time with me in real life, than through the Internet. Tech is always just a tool, whether it'll enable you communication, or sitting alone, it's your choice, you don't need the Internet or anything else for that.

In my opinion making cyberspace more real could increase quality of relationships, but it won't make people escape social isolation itself, because there are many other factors, that cause lonelyness, for example lack of acceptance, people around us being stupid. Thanks to the Internet we aren't limited to geographical location anymore.

Somethimes lack of emotions when interacting using text, can actually helps you making new friends, like it helped me talk to a girl.

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 No.53750

If I lived in a less diverse town I would go out more.

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 No.53751

>>53750

What town do you live in? What kind of diversity does it have?

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 No.53752

>>53750

How about them sanctuary cities?

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 No.53754

You assume that without the internet, we'd be interacting with people in real life. But some of us chose not to interact with people, before this technology was even around. The internet has INCREASED our social interaction, despite its constraints.

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 No.53759

>>53726

>ah bloo bloo

>We live in a society

If youre on the internet talking with cyberpunk larpers then you arent alone faggot. We're all connected in the wired

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 No.53768

>>53726

>This is all just an idea and not an original one either, nonetheless I

>believe that I have made my point sufficiently

wow ! seriously, the point you are making is so trivial that you may as well be playing with your willy rather than writing this shit. It would be of far more benefit to everyone if that was the case

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 No.53771

File: 2b99e3c0200f830⋯.png (174.54 KB,620x289,620:289,Alien-Covenant-1-620x289.png)

>>53750

>What town do you live in?

A "suburb" of London.

>What kind of diversity does it have?

It's plagued mainly by violent West Africans. I've fought with many of them over growing up. Being cowards who attack in packs they're afraid when they're on their own. Learning martial arts will reduce the likelihood of you being a victim due in part to the natural confidence that comes with training.

Welcome to the future! Packs of tailless xenomorphs instead of interstellar trips, flying cars and Android companions.

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 No.53772

>>53771

*many of them growing up.

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 No.53773

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 No.53774

>>53754

This.

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 No.53778

I'm not lonely when I'm online

But im very lonely when I'm left with my thoughts

I often wonder if I'd be happier if I focused on making connections with people irl

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 No.53814

File: 98b8985ac828119⋯.jpg (145.27 KB,640x853,640:853,bitch.jpg)

>>53726

First off OP you're a making a HUGE mistake by using neuromancer as a source since gibson didn't know what the internet (or computer networks in general) worked and didnt even own a computer back then so most of his ideas are the product of technobabble

Second loneliness has always being a huge problem, you see stuff like evangelion which was pre-internet (made in 1994, released in 1995, all in a country were the internet wasn't popular until the first local smartphones came out in 2001-ish and people are still using fax machines) and there are tons of pre-internet media talking about the issue.

In the pre-internet people just coped with loneliness, you had couch potatoes with wall-to-wall shelves full of VHS tapes and they would just watch them, why you think supermarkets were full of virgin 120min VHS tapes? why did people buy automatic VCRs? thats why.

Then you have alcohol, tons of novels about loneliness from before our time feature alcoholic characters because thats what a lot of people did to cope, even today.

The internet doesnt makes you lonely, it helps you deal with your pre-existing loneliness. Sure you could go outside and mingle who people that dont really like you and you dont really like either but both pretend to keep appearances, but do you really want to do that? do you think thats "fun"? that thats "intimacy"? back in the day you could only meet people within your own physical space so if you were surrounded by assholes then you were stuck with them.

The reason why you might think you're more lonely is that the internet helps you meet other lonely people, something that was basically impossible before when you had to meet face-to-face in which case neither part could be considered to be "lonely" again.

Also theres the social media factor, people like pic related which go to a fucking botanical garden and stomp on plants to pretend they are in some exotic locale having fun with friends, something which makes you feel bad and inadequate…..when in reality she's a friendless loser and a poseur of the worst kind.

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 No.53834

File: 5209ffeba3f2b8e⋯.jpg (279.39 KB,2048x1152,16:9,cyberpunk-street-ot-2048x1….jpg)

>>53771

I had the same exact problem five years ago. These sub-saharan africans used to ambush me and aggressively ask brouzouf from me only to subsequently lightly roughen me up after denying them any. What i first did was i tried my hardest to only befriend the leader of the group with humor (I obviously didn't want to be his friend).

The first time i met them after our new friendship, one of the goons came running at me but the leader stopped him and explained the situation. After that i tried my best not to talk to him so i could distance him from myself yet make sure he doesn't antagonise me.

So try to make them your acquaintances, it might not be as easy for you as it was for you since i'm the same race as the west African gangs.

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 No.53840

>>53834

>eurocuck the post

your ancestors would have taken up the sword and driven out the african invaders. you befriend them so they don't bully you. holy fuck how much soy did the kikes feed you?

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 No.53872

>>53840

Read more carefully. He's an African himself.

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 No.53884

>>53834

Yea, that's a convenient advantage you have over the basic, afrikan grooming gang. Proves exactly how racist these niggers actually are.

Unfortunately, for the rest of us eurofags we're gonna have to look like more trouble than we're worth. Whether that means getting to the gym and muay thai sessions or holstering weapons (illegally in some cases).

Cucking to their shit is just consent; you should be curbstomping the fuck out of them. The cops ain't gonna do it for you.

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