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“Cyberspace. A consensual hallucination experienced daily by billions of legitimate operators, in every nation.”

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 No.36197

With the age of Drones upon us and drones being used to invade our privacy, what options do we have to protect ourselves? Does anyone know what it takes to make one of these in related pic? Any other ideas on anti-drone privacy measures?

 No.36205

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>>36197

>Does anyone know what it takes to make one of these in related pic?

It takes brouzouf

>Any other ideas on anti-drone privacy measures?

pic related


 No.36207

step 1: buy nugget

step 2: buy ammo

step 3: use some of your ammo for shooting practice

step 4: use rest of ammo on drones

when you run out of boolets repeat steps 2-4


 No.36213


 No.36214

>>36207

drones are small and fast. firearms are loud. the cyber thing to do would be to hit it with a laser and the heat will make it melt/burn and then crash.


 No.36222

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>>36197

This must be said first. Overwhelmingly, you need to fear the cameras you can't see. They exist. They are pervasive. If anyone is spying on you with any motivation, you'll be in view and heard from long distance and hidden nearby. In terms of privacy, strategy involved in trying to obtain privacy in the nearby physical world today is vastly more consequential.

This is a good topic. Counter-drone strategy matters. If you're defending against high-resource actors, that's a far deeper topic. Suppose you deal with low-resource actors, but ones possibly even weaponized.

Strategy outline:

1. avoidance, avoidance, avoidance; avoidance is worth endless discussion

2. detection: multiple forms of radar, sensors, motion detection

3. detected? more avoidance if possible

4. diversion

5. disruption: launching defensive drones; jammers; lasers

6. hidden traps, if you're in something of a living chess game

7. guns and shotguns; always have that backup

8. avoidance


 No.36243

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>>36214

Shining a laser into the sky is incredibly dangerous, especially the kind of 2+ watt laser you'll need to be able to do that, and you're not going to be able to keep it on a single spot long enough to do any real heat damage. At best, you'll destroy the camera.

Presumably, your goal is to destroy the drone, because fuck those niggas. Using an actual firearm will generally get you v&. Jammers these days won't crash them, they'll just make the drone perform a soft landing, or return to its origin via GPS.

While somewhat pricy, your best bet is to take embed related to it. Fire rate is absurd, at 8000 rounds/minute. The high spread combined with the high ROF means that if you're within range, you WILL hit it, unless you're unspeakably bad, and a single hit has a high chance to fuck up those fragile rotors. You can get them for standard airsoft BBs, or you can get them in .177 for normal metal BBs, which will be devastating. You don't need to worry about what happens when your round comes back down because the projectile is relatively light, and not actually moving all that fast.

plus,

>BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRT


 No.36249

shoot a potatoe at it holmes

http://youtu.be/j1xJSsh24R0

hotwheels, no embed field on mobil holmes


 No.36250

>>36243

BB have a maximum effective range of about 100 meters. The drone has to be very close for that to work.


 No.36256

holy shit stop being autistic

just jam the fuck out of them


 No.36260

beat drone

with bigger drone

>pew pew


 No.36263

>>36250

And birdshot is even less, yet the most notable confirmed drone kill was a guy in Kentucky with a shotgun loaded with birdshot.


 No.36264

>>36263

You have to be close, very close. That guy took oit the neighbor's drone hovering in his backyard. What if it is hovering at 400 feet?

Birdshot is the right choice though. Super effective.


 No.36334

This might sound crazy, but there are stores that sell lasers. Now I'm not talking about the purple 3 watt balloon poppers, but a goddamn 100 watt infrared beam. The kind you can't physically be around if you don't have eye protection, this is the shit that makes you wonder how it's even legal. The beam can be focused down even narrower but you'll need a set of lenses that are crystal clear, else the beam just burns through them in under a second.

So imagine having a turret with said tube installed. Any takers? United Nuclear is one of the stores that sells these tubes.


 No.36373

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>>36205

or one of these would work.


 No.39159

>>36334

He has got it! Microwave!


 No.39167

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Most non-military drones use radio control in the 420mhz or 900mhz range. Some use 2.4gig for video downlink.

A good Yagi antenna that has much more gain then the little whip antenna that is on the sub 1watt remote controller would do it.

You make a sweep generator and just over power the remote control. Make you sweep gen (jammer) cover the whole 400mhz band with 5watts, and a yagi and your gona take out 90% of the Drones out there.

Just don't leave it running when you dont need it because you will be jamming tons of shit(FD/PD radio system) and will get located quickly.

Legit military drones use GPS and satellite downlink for control. Your not going to be able jam those

>shoot it out of the sky with muh rifle

Better bet would be birdshot from a shotgun with a wide choke. But your going to give your position away and its totally not cyber.


 No.39182

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>>36222

I would seriously consider the possibility of DIY mini SAMs for this task

You could also use cheapo drones as kamikaze units like vid related. It would be more expensive per 'shot' but then again using lasers or jammers can land your ass in jail while crashing a drone into another can be ruled out as an accident


 No.39192

>>36334

>Science supply stores exist

You don't fucking say, my man!

I don't know why everyone freaks out about drones. I've never seen one flying around, but maybe that's because my city is physically kinda small and has an airport in it. I imagine that would restrict civilian air traffic a bunch.

Y'know, instead of shooting stuff, why not use passive avoidance methods? Just close your damn blinds.

>>39167

>and its totally not cyber.

What if you use a scary black 'salt shotgun covered in fancy mall ninja attachments?

>>39182

>it's an accident means it's not a crime

it'd still be a crime and you'd still have fines and damages to pay, most likely.


 No.39209

>>39167

From what I have seen, most consumer drones use 2.4GHZ controllers. 433MHz is likely also used, but it is crowded and shared with hams.

900MHz/1200MHz/5800MHz is usually used for the video downlink.

And ya, legit large military drones use Ka-band sat for both uplink and downlink. IIRC something like 17GHz for downlink.

To jamm those you need to be above the drone.

Or jamm the uplink from drone to sat to blind the operator. But that's also quite hard. And then it would use GPS to go home.

>>36334

You need funny optics for the tube, and it's quite shit to build the multi kilovolt powersupplies those things need.

And even atmospheric scattering from the beam would blind people, so would 5th reflections.


 No.39211

Cover the area around your home in improvised power/network lines. Shit's a nightmare to navigate.

Better yet, hang a fine mesh over random areas. Nigh-impossible to see via camera, but it'll foul up a prop and it'll block a drone.

Camouflage. If the drone can't see you, it can't track you.


 No.39218

>>39167

You could make an RF tracking turret with a pair of semi-automatic 10 gauge 3.5" magnum shotguns and #4 lead shot (drones don't count as waterfowl so you can use lead). The shotguns would be fitted with long goose barrels and silencers to make it harder to find. You'd probably want to modify the shotguns to feed from hoppers. Total cost would be like $3000 if you could get a good price on the shotguns. $2000 if you have only one shotgun or if you're using 12-bore.

Stash the whole thing in an unmarked white van or a pickup truck with a bed cover and you're golden.


 No.39235

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>>39167

Why not just steal it?


 No.39257

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>>39209

>From what I have seen, most consumer drones use 2.4GHZ controllers.

OK my experience is from a few years ago. If the newer cheap ones are in 2.4 thats even better. You could get cheap WiFi Jammers from China that have a SMA connector on them. Pipe that in to a wifi amp. Then connect the amp to yagi or "cantenna"

You could build the whole kit for under $100.


 No.39258

>>39218

>You could make an RF tracking turret with a pair of semi-automatic 10 gauge

It would just shoot the guy holding the remote unless unless the done had RF downlink for video.


 No.39273

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"If they think you're crude, go technical; if they think you're technical, go crude."

– Johnny Mneumonic


 No.39333

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Are you a good shot? This thing is silent, precise, and packs the same power as an .22lr (impressive being an airgun). You can buy them over the mail with no background checks or paperwork at all. Some companies are starting to develop air shotguns, but they might need some time before them become a good alternative.


 No.39447

>>39333

https://vimeo.com/33555548

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/INDECT

police is fighting drones using drones with nets and other police is trying to train eagles.

>tor users can't upload images

i wonder if pedos are retarded or NSA spams cp.


 No.39490

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 No.40229

File: 1457115296885.pdf (2.53 MB, DSG.pdf)


 No.40243

>>40229

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/5CzURm7OpAA?list=PL9fPq3eQfaaBuHqVvDzPoWxznYYmyx5UX" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

From Defcon 23, but only if your target is a DJI Phantom 3 or a Parrot Bebop


 No.40244

>>40243

…and apparently I can't into embed…


 No.40247

>>40244

click show post options & limits, copy youtube link into embed field.


 No.40249

Fit a cheap drone with a signal jammer and program it to automatically follow other drones.


 No.40251

>>40244

embed needs cancer so only jsfags do it. or was it the other way round? anyway, don't do it, just post the fucking yt link so we can copypaste it and watch it using livestreamer or download using youtube-dl.

cops are now using cannons that shoot nets which is probably the cheapest way to get a drone down, assuming it really works and they didn't just fall for yet another scam company selling useless equipment.

i also heard that during the kosovo war people figured out that they could bring down almost anything using a modded microwave. the only thing that went up was their cancer risk if they weren't careful.


 No.43599

>tfw FAA legislation is stealing our cyberfuture from us


 No.43932

>>36213

Don't link directly to news sites.


 No.44024

>>36243

a weaker laser could blind the drone sensors


 No.44034

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>>44024

Good luck hitting them with laser.

There is no way in which laser is better than good old shotgun.

If you want cyber rather than k, then go for microwave. It will fry electronics on good hit, or at least jam wireless links


 No.44047

>>39192

>I don't know why everyone freaks out about drones. I've never seen one flying around.

They fly high enough that you don't see them with the naked eye….


 No.44072

>>44047

I've encountered one at relatively low level around here. My last job was a startup out of a guy's house, and we had a drone grazing the neighborhood, particularly in our area. Though it did spend most of its time up high, it would sometimes descend to around 50-100 feet. In retrospect, I don't think there's a reason for it to have flown at that altitude unless it was trying to see into people's back yards through the trees, which likely would have been very difficult at a high angle, because of the way they hang over.

We eventually chased it down to a nearby park, and our best guess was that the people who took it were plain-clothes police, based on the way they acted and the cars they drove. The police department here is exceptionally well-funded and has that sort of thing, though they haven't historically been the brightest bunch, nor are they on the straight and narrow.

It's worth noting that my employer at the time was a former military computer security expert, and was once involved with Halliburton/Northrop Grumman types. He was highly paranoid for reasons relating to this, and I'm 99% certain that he was also involved in other, less legal ventures in the time that I knew him, so I've wondered if the drone was meant specifically for him.

Of course, it's also entirely possible that it was just shitty hobbyists who don't value or respect personal privacy, but it's made me think.


 No.44128

>>36197

Yes we must defend ourselves from the Amazon deliveries. Halp




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