/cyber/ - Cyberpunk & Science Fiction

The NSA wants to know your hideouts.

>>30216

The NSA just save whatever traffic that travels through usa tho don't they? They would very likely know any websites that people visit anyways.

>>30217

> sensible argument

nah man the NSA knows that an 8chan board full of beard-sporting unix fags is the biggest threat to national security

jhl2600.sdf.org

Don't have anywhere else now, though I'd like to get into gopher

>>30228

You really should know that they don't care. The point is that they would know what websites people visit. And they hardly categorize what logs they save. They save basically ALL traffic that goes through the usa.

>>30234

thatsthejoke.wav

>>30217

> Implying metadata analysis isn't being used to identify "cells" of potential "anti-government ideological extremists".

> implying COINTELPRO isn't real.

> implying the Pentagon isn't having NSA go after anyone who poses a threat to business interests, such "terrorists" as "environmental activists"

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/earth-insight/2013/jun/14/climate-change-energy-shocks-nsa-prism

Yeah the whole "you're not important" bit is moot when you realize they spend billions going after self sustaining farmers, civil rights and anti-war activists.

No one is unimportant enough, so get with the posting of your hangouts you anti-social-networking /cyber/ folks. How else will I know which connection graph to map out and investigate if you're not using myfacespace.

Also, ignore that myspace was founded by a guy who hacked a bank at 17, and the FBI "let go" because he was "too young" to prosecute – odd way of saying "just right to train".

You shazbots aren't into the Social Media honeypot, so we've got to figure out interesting targets some other way… CERTAINLY NOT by asking for your hideouts on a chans. It's totally safe. You have done nothing "wrong" (whatever that means) then you have nothing to hide (if you're not into politics, or environmental issues, or civil rights, etc).

>>30243

Nigger I don't think anyone here would put personally identifying things on a personal page, and if they did they wouldn't share it in this thread. There is a hundred percent chance that the NSA either already knows or doesn't care that this guy >>30233 likes old computers, new wave and transport systems. This is entirely a novelty thread where people can anonymously share and their completely anonymous personal portfolios with other people who might also have similar interests. I'm as paranoid as the next guy but by being unreasonably afraid you're just letting them win. I really hate saying this because I really care about privacy but there is nothing they could actually find out from crawling personal sites, what so they can build a profile of us? I'm just at a loss how you could legitimately think that such an inoccent thread could be a plot to mine completely meaningless data from a completely irrelevant community

>>30248

Cost benefit analysis time:

What's the cost of posting / monitoring a honeypot thread?

What's the potential benefit?

Now, imagine the NSA. It has never once preempted a terrorist attack – so either they're very very bad at their jobs, or their job is something other than combating terrorists… like monitoring dissent.

What do you think they do all day at such establishments?

Now let's also ignore the link I posted cites evidence of online gov shills. Couldn't possibly be here though – Not on 8chan, connected to one of the largest shitstorms in Internet history. Maybe on /pol/ or /gg/, but certainly not on /cyber/, or /tech/, where some of the savvy visitors are.

Is your position is basically that it's just too much effort to post or monitor a topic on a board that's not top 25?

Let's consider that such a topic was non existent here. Would it be beneficial to create one to mine? How much effort and cost would it take to do so?

I could legitimately think that such is the case since there are documented cases of the same shit happening, which you remain willfully ignorant of.

There are two threads right now on the 1st page. The other one is asking for location data.

>>30162

this thread = 200% shills

>>30251

What is the potential benefit of the information posted in this thread though? If you post anything online they already know it. They already know what websites all of us browse. You're giving them literally nothing by posting a link to a website.

Is the NSA behind the collab thread too?

>>30251

What could they possibly get from this thread holy shit

>>30263

They might do a "full take" on all the information, but they only log permanently and investigate the interesting stuff… like if someone posted a link to their hacker den.

>>30162

>amateur radio stations,

I'm the sole DJ of my neighborhood station 88.5 FM, which broadcasts at just barely under the legal limit of FCC regs for one of those personal FM transmitters (like the ones that you plug into a CD/MP3 player to pick up on the car radio). Most radios in my block radius can pick up the broadcast. Screw ASCAP & RIAA.

I only play creative commons music, news, podcasts, etc.

I only have a few listeners during the week (esp. at night), but more people tune in on the weekend to find out about local events.

The in-car transmitters you buy now are very weak compared to ones you could get a decade ago.

>>30264

>NSA behind the collab thread

Maybe. A key bit of information is assessing a group's technological proficiency level.

Such information is factored in to infiltration priority and used with the flow-chart that NSA-tards follow when pointing and clicking an exploit to send via their "ferret cannon" skiddie tool:

http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2013/10/how-the-nsa-thinks-about-secrecy-and-risk/280258/

(you can't make this shit up, those dipshits can't even fucking name things well).

>>30162

https://ensorcel.org/

https://akk.li/pics/anne.jpg

>>30305

>flash required

nope

>>30302

> metamodernism

> manifesto

> "radical"

> counter culture

> aversion to the bourgeoisie

If you're not trying to look like an obvious honeypot for ideological extremism, you failed.

>>30350

It might just be satire

>>30233

Looks like every old computer science professor's ~ page, gj

>>30370

What's the username/password?

>>30394

Log In: LOG

Password: USR_REQUEST01

The log account has 1MB of Data-Bandwith at your request. Use provided contact forms for a custom password - I can post here if you wish!

>>30350

>If you're not trying to look like an obvious honeypot for ideological extremism, you failed.

We are tho; we're well aware of our pretentiousness and are always looking for new writers. The types of people that have popped into our irc are.. interesting to say the least.

>>30364

The fact that you even considered that is the reason why I started this blog in the first place, :^)

Well, I was working on a small HTML website that was /cyber/ themed. I haven't worked on it in a bit, here ya go. It was pretty much inspired by jentaki, or whatever it's called.

http://moleratcorp.neocities.org/

http://skullcode.com

A skilltest keeps spammers and shazbots out.

Speaking machine is a plus.

>>30575

Any hints?

It's hex, obviously.

>>30581

You're in a running machine. At boot your dumped into its video memory (~32kB) so at most you can do around there is fiddle with the display. First 64 bytes (addr 0h to 40h) are basic DMA input devices, and the next 8 bytes after that belong to the video control port. Set bit 5 of byte @ 43h to enable scanlines (write 98 or 88 to unset).

Outside the v.RAM you'll find machine code some of it is running to generate the hex editor you're using, edit that without a proper replacement in line and you'll be lost – The JS console will report if you invalid instruction, if you're just stuck in a loop it's not an error but you could still be cut off.

There's separate stacks for return addresses and parameters, (prevents all stack smashing exploits – why aren't our computers using this?), so if you want root status on login you'll have to get a bit more creative.

You Scroll faster with PG UP / PG DN than mouse wheel (until you unlock [or build] a GOTO or modify the control code).

For those that don't grok machine so well there's a user level entry point reachable via an address related to the initial starting address: 6666

The machine is little endian with 8,16,32,64 and 128 bit word size for data operands, but instruction opcodes are 32 bit.

>>30582

This looks so cool and I have no idea how to do anything with it.

>>30587

To get started clobber the byte at 6666 with zeros or a space.

After that, look around to find more hints.

>>30588

That 00005fe4 has to be important. Entering it doesn't do anything, but there doesn't seem to be anything important at that address either. Then again, I'm looking at bytecode; it could be the lynchpin in the entire program.

>>30589

>Entering it doesn't do anything,

[!]

>>30605

I tried that, yeah. Nuking that bit doesn't seem to do anything.

>>30575

Very nice, definitely respect this as an embedded programmer

>>30656

Pretty schway, but

> Click a DL link,

> You need an account to do that

> ¥2k ± 0x0F

> accounts

>>30588

Gave the skull the byte he wanted, zeroed what seemed like a trigger. Now it seems to read a long stub. Is it a method? Can I change its return address?

>>30804

Update: I have no idea what I'm doing

>>30805

If you change the byte at 42h, you can alter the background color.

>>30808

thx mate….

>>30804

I think you're having the same issue that i am. You entered the number that the skull was thinking about and activated the trigger. Then there was nothing. Right?

>>30810

actually, whatever you enter under the [?] makes it become a [!]. When I change it, it takes the time to scroll and show me all the garbage between the skull and the initial jump label

>>30811

That's what i mean. The only hint they really gave me was the numbers the skull was thinking. and entering them and triggering it does only that.

>>30812

You're entering the numbers in the wrong place.

>>30812

I have tried typing them in both in the bar under the skull and in the row to the left.

>>30821

>>30820

>>30811

>it takes the time to scroll and show me all the garbage

Is it showing the garbage or is it changing the data?

Streettech.

>>30808

I figured out some other bytes.

The byte at 40h appears to be the cursor size. High nybble is width in pixels low nybble is height.

Byte 41h is the cursor position within the char. High nybble is the left offset in pixels, low nybble is offset from top.

So, 9f 00 at 40h-41h and you get a block cursor, 99 07 gives a half block, and 1f 20 gives a cursor sort of like a modern vertical line text carat.

44h and 46h are is cursor location on screen. 44h (and maybe 45h) being text column. 46h (& 47h?) is the text row. I was able to call a small function that just changed the cursor pos in a loop. I think the high bytes (45 and 47) are the part of 16bit cursor position values since setting the low bytes to zeros while the high bytes have ones (row = 256+) leaves the cursor off screen instead of back at the origin (top / left).

>>30825

Pretty schway, except that some images are broken for me. Such as the stereo pics.

>>30854

I hope you guys figure the skullcode shit out, because I sure as hell can't.

>>30282

I've wanted to do something like this since I was in middle school. Do you have a link to the radio that you use?

>inb4 NSA shill pls go

I'm just a random anon who wants to do something similar :^)

>>30282

I've wanted to do something like this since I was in middle school. Do you have a link to the radio that you use?

>inb4 NSA shill pls go

I'm just a random anon who wants to do something similar :^)

>>30282

I've wanted to do something like this since I was in middle school. Do you have a link to the radio that you use?

>inb4 NSA shill pls go

I'm just a random anon who wants to do something similar :^)

>>30933

>>30934

>>30940

> :^)

> :^)

S-shure, it's a Model No. US4858612

>>30891

Give a brother a hint?

00005fe4 isn't getting me anywhere

>>30966

Think about what you did originally, and how that works.

>>30970

what do you do to solve this? im not asking for instructions or the answer, but what skills do you need to solve it and how do you get them?

>>30987

Well… you need low-level skills. I got mine growing up at a time when computers didn't have maths co-processors or 3D cards, and I was into the 'demo' scene… e.g. Future Crew. So I learned assembly to do 3D gfx on slow computers. Also to hack out the copy protection on games and modify save game files. So I'm used to hex editors and the like.

But that era is gone, I don't know how you would go through that now.

The fact that it's little endian is important. Read >>30582

>>30305

I was listening to fucking asmr, you fucking twat

>>30993

>But that era is gone, I don't know how you would go through that now.

Get into game translations. I recently went for an old japanese only PSX Adventure Game looking for the text, and actually everything was compressed in some weird way and the "script" was just pointers to the letters in a big non-standard texture file. I Spend hours debugging this thing but eventually got everything together. Anyway, there are many translation groups and if you want to hack something useful without getting into trouble this is a great activity.

>>34537

>Game Translations

Consumerist yet schway, I like it.

Also, RIP skullcode.com users.

http://archive.is/RedL9#selection-9047.0-9051.5

Remember: The enemy knows the system.

>>34541

Damn, those bastards got him. Rest in piece, dude.

>>34579

brutal and unfortunate as all hell…

>>34541

So that's what schizophrenia looks like from the inside. Unfortunate, but if he gets treatment for it he has a good chance of being fine.

>>30454

noice

Not really sure if this counts as /cyber/, but I made this website when /tech/ was having a neocities thread. I was thinking of scripting in secrets that takes you to other areas and other stuff, and maybe scripting random events, but in the end all I did was update the picture and add a "scary" 404 page meant to discourage finding the secrets the wrong way. Maybe I'll get back to it eventually.

http://kanakana.neocities.org/

>>30931

Separate thread would be cool, because I got interested and I'm sure other people would be as well.

For now I managed to get here

>>30891

and I found another Exe Me at 0xd4d0, this whole line is an opcode sequence, just as in the unciphered code. Does nothing though.

I've also managed to hack a lot of the terminal window and I'd love to make a documentation for it, as well as the "CPU" itself.

My question is though, is the execution at frag machine-specific or is it one of the quirks of the Hex Editor application? Because it either is some kind of multi-tasking environment or there is a certain thing to be programmed that looks on a field checking if it's been fragged (Hex Editor works at the same time as the cherker for the translator).

Hell, it does need a separate thread.

And I want to write an assembler for this shit.

>>30251

>what is edward snowden

>>36546

>is the execution at frag machine-specific or is it one of the quirks of the Hex Editor application?

I don't think it's hard-coded into the machine, but part of the displayed code of the Hex Editor that's running. I think it's a branch in the Hex Editor code.

If you go WAY down in the memory space (or is it UP b/c increasing values?) then you start to see the program's execution stack, as evidenced by the garbage left over from decoding stuff.

I haven't verified the meaning of the stack, i.e. could be heap variables instead, or maybe the heap is somewhere else.

>>36546

>I've also managed to hack a lot of the terminal window and I'd love to make a documentation for it, as well as the "CPU" itself.

Please do tell. I'd be down if you started a new thread with your findings so far (you seem a lot further along than me).

>>36546

> just as in the unciphered code

>unciphered

This got me thinking. At first I thought the PW just unlocked some pre-existing code but I think you're right.

I found out that you don't have to do the 00005fe4 "Jump". You can just input what that jump reveals manually. Then "frag" the "!". You can also enter other words too, but they don't reveal the "Exe-Me"… Instead of zeroing the "[!]", you can clearing the input box with spaces and it will revert to a "|?|".

>>30891

>Not sure whether to obey the skull or take it to /x/

Actually, I think some /x/-tier thinking might be needed.

When the Skull puts the words in its box and the cursor on its [!], it's thinking something weird: "!!1!!!!1"

At first I thought it was just the internet "angry exclamation" meme like:

"Fuck YOU!!!1!!one!!"

But the other times the Skull was thinking about a hint, so that might be a hint. You can't just "frag" the exclamation mark with any old value. It has to be a space (20 in hex) or NULL (00 in hex).

If you "frag" the exclamation marks into Zeros you get: 0010001.

10001hex is 65537. That is actually a special number. It's the largest known Fermat Prime.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/65537_%28number%29

> 65537 is the largest known prime number of the form:

> 2^(2^n) + 1

> Therefore, a regular polygon with 65537 sides is constructible with compass and unmarked straightedge. In number theory, primes of this form are known as Fermat primes, named after the mathematician Pierre de Fermat. The only known prime Fermat numbers are:

> 2^(2^0) + 1 = 3

> 2^(2^1) + 1 = 5

> 2^(2^2) + 1 = 17

> 2^(2^3) + 1 = 257

> 2^(2^4) + 1 = 65537

Any significance in theses numbers?

I wonder if the skull's hint has numerological or occult basis?

Also, "00100001" in binary is 21hex, which is the hex value of the symbol for the exclamation mark (that's under the cursor). 21 hex is 33 in decimal. I know for a fact that 33 has occult meanings.

What got me thinking down occult lines for hints (besides the "take it to /x/") is the words that the skull reveals. Doing a google search on that turns up some very interesting stuff about alchemy that, when taken in context with the theme of "Frag the 33", seems a bit ominous. The pinnacle of Alchemy was reached during the lifetime of Fermat, thereafter becoming replaced by the chemistry backed by the scientific method. Any other insight regarding said revealed phrase?

I don't know what the "blood red" could symbolize, but it might also be a hint along with "keep going".

>>30454

Its nice, good work chummer

I believe this is an unusual link, but The tek is a great community, /cyber/ as fuck. I'm using the related video right now on my gaming PC but there are better examples, which i don't have the time to look for right now.

They have a website and a forum, both are great and i recommend them.

>>30233

What are old computers useful for, other than retro vydia and maybe music production ?

>>30575

fugg, this shit is addictive, but I'm completely lost.

We need more gopher holes

>>30233

Ah, SDF. Here is my shitty site: retr0.freeshell.org

>>30575

I want to be a part of this. What is it and how do I start? Please

>>30582

Can you or someone please tell me the point of this game? I want to do it but I don't know what the goal is.

>>42587

It's a puzzle. Goal is to solve puzzle.

Also you'll probably gain access to controls of the virtual machine, but don't quote me on it

>>30891

does the Code offset have anything to do with anything?

>>42590

Yeah, when you frag [!] at #6666 machine starts executing code at address specified there.

Since machine is little-endian, address is written with byte order backwards.

>>42592

Is there anything I can read to help me understand all this? I get it a bit but I've never messed with a hex editor before. I'm on the second exercise(?) just after I frag the first !.

>>42594

I don't know much myself.

>>30162

>Post your www sites, gopher holes, ftps, bulletin boards, amateur radio stations

I'd love to make myself one of these, but I don't know what to put onto it (content, that is)

>>42766

I have a website, gopher hole, and ftp server. What's content?

>>42878

>What's content?

So I guess your FTP is empty and your webserver and gopher thing only serve empty pages? :^)

>>34646

ciiber.neocities.org

>>30217

unless that's all a lie so that everyone lets their guard down.

>>30234

>they don't care

>so come on tell me

fuck off nsa

>>30243

fucking shill ass pet fucker detected

you have done nothing wrong but we all have everything to worry about.

fuck you asshole

>>30248

SAMEFAG SHILL DETECTED

>>30262

fucking this.

>>30265

>>30264

>>30279

oh my fuck, you are all literally shills

https://squiggle.city/~dawnbreeze/

I need to start posting again.

it is pretty weird how shills are allowed to post on this site.

what people write here "you are not important enough" etc. is all wrong as we know from snowden, from hbgary, from project echelon and room 641A and many other examples from recent and distant history.

it's not like those people are accidentally posting a wrong opinion, they are lying, and they damn well know that they lie.

fuck the mods.

>>30656

>They use Discord

Interesting blend of users that are too paranoid and not paranoid enough here.

>>30656

>hightechlowlife.eu

First thread is pedo filth. GTFO

>>43124

I used to post "you are not important enough" etc. I used to think it was true. It feels like only a couple years ago when the biggest effect we had on the world was closing a pool.

There are certainly shills, but there are certainly people who don't understand the magnitude of what's happening.

fyi echelon was mostly an industrial espionage program. hbgary is a much better example, and I'm sure we'll have some proof of current activities soon enough.