No.391704
Anyone else starting to feel so hopeless over finding a bf that you're considering forcing yourself to just date girls? Girls are just so much more abundant. It'd be so much easier to get a gf than a bf. Every time I imagine myself in a relationship, it's with a boy, but I'm getting to the point where I'm so desperate for some kind of intimate emotional connection with someone that I'm considering girls now. So many guys are just vapid whores and it's depressing. Not to mention how many incel prison gays there are who unironically think gay guys are less slutty than girls or somehow more loyal, which is just laughably incorrect. Just more shit to wade through in the search for a bf.
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No.391707
blaming an entire gender for your personal shortcomings is retarded, start caring for yourself and others will too.
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No.391756
>>391704
i know that feel
>>391707
taking care of yourself isn't enough, obviously you need that but you still have to find the right person and i don't know where that person is
i've tried a lot but what OP says is true, most people seem to be slutty and messed up
it's really hard to even find someone near you so the chances of that person being the right one are really low and you just get tired after seeing things going nowhere over and over again
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No.391781
tbh there are alot of fuccbois
but then you get the preachy ones complaining about everything like self assigned evangelists or something
no middle ground these days
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No.391936
Well first off, what kind of guys are you even looking?
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No.392049
>>391704
same boat.
our generation is fucked regarding human connections. we've fucked ourselves harder than any recorded generation in terms of love and partnership, at least imo.
we crave love and attention, create apps and technology to bring us closer, yet we're so alone, so desperate, so detached
honestly how'd we go so wrong? For the last 6 years I've been focusing intently on my relationships, and it's making me this deranged sort of hopeless - realizing what a fucking mess we're in as a people
honestly, I'm afraid
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No.392073
Stop trying to find a bf where the whores gather.
This place and dating sites/apps/whatever are the fucking worst places to look because odds are they're there for attention.
>>392049
Nice spacing faggot.
But to answer your question: The internet and those apps fuck our standards mostly. Like why 'settle' for a 4/10 even though you're like a 4 too, when theres all the 9/10's online whoring out who you can either fap to or can pay for a pretend connection during a show?
Plus you've probably got an over idealized image of a relationship. Which may also be the internet's doing but fucking seriously whatever you're thinking is not it. The longest lasting and generally happiest marriages are between people who don't feel the need to be near each other constantly, effectively being independent but working together. So fucking cuddling on the couch and passionate fucking every night isn't good, thats a short term thing at best. But like a call a day and a date every other week? That shit can last forever.
I can't properly express how much I hate that last part. Like people need to calm the fuck down about relationships, getting a bf shouldn't do much to your daily life and it sure as hell shouldn't start with a burning passion or something. It needs to be built over time, if there is instant gratification you're both probably in it just for that and will get burned by it eventually. We bring it on ourselves.
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No.392114
>>392112
Not him, but
>I need validation and only ever get any while crossdressing
>health and fitness advice
>I am a pervert
>I look like a twink
Even though there are less gay men than heterosexual women I have always gotten more attention from guys. It's weird and I almost feel guilty about it.
>>392073
>stop trying to find a bf where whores gather
Nigga what else is there? Where is it socially acceptable to talk to complete strangers that isn't a gathering of sluts? Church groups I'll give you, but after this latest pedophile priest scandal I'm fucking done with them.
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No.392130
>>392114
I'm not exactly an expert on socializing myself but there are plenty of ways if you get the fuck out of the house. Personally my method has been tabletop games, people always need another DM and I was well suited for it so now I've got a social circle based around the local game store.
Go find groups built around hobbies and interests, coworkers, classmates, etc. If you're scared start at the bottom with vidya groups or something.
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No.392193
>>392073
That bit on idealized relationships hit a bit too close to home.
>>392086
>How is it easier to get a gf?
Because straight girls are everywhere and they're easy to talk to. I've had plenty of girls make it very obvious they wanted to date if not straight up ask me out directly. I wish I was capable of loving a woman. I wouldn't be alone then.
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No.392196
>>392193
I've found the opposite. Women seem to hate me simply for being a male. I have long hair and I'm not exactly manly but I feel like they're afraid of me. It sucks because for personal reasons I have to find a woman in the end but this is impossible
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No.392208
>>392073
I have been in a 5 year and 8 year relationship, I understand what it takes to foster a long and potent love, and I also know how easy to is to abuse such a love and take it for granted. I work in my community doing eventing and coordination, so i come across many people in my life. My heart has only considered 4 of these thousands of human beings to be "fit" for a relationship, as in, they're self aware, willing to communicate, to try. they're determined, realistic, self loving, respectful, empathetic - great qualities of one to love
why are these qualities so rare? if we're all so desperate for connection, why do we have a hard time connecting? puritan USA culture has done horrible things to our idea of intimacy. Nudity and touch is inherently sexual under puritan ideas.
did we not fuck ourselves with pretending that humans are better off at a 10ft distance? Skin contact has measurable and lasting health effects.
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No.392214
>>392208
Puritan? You also mean liberal, where a simple touch is sexual assault and a compliment is harassment. Horseshoe theory has fucked us all.
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No.392221
>>392196
>Women seem to hate me simply for being a male.
Do you really believe that's true? You've got a great personality, average to above average looks, friendly demeanor and decent hygiene but that ballsack between your legs just makes every woman hate your guts or something? Let's try and be honest and self reflective here dude
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No.392224
>>392130
>tfw have been going to weekly or more game nights for the better part of a decade
>have made one friend who talks to me outside of those few hours
The people who go to these fall into one of two categories: those who are much more interested in playing a game than making friends, and someone tagging along with someone there are or are trying to get into a relationship with. Maybe I've been doing something wrong, but I want my time back.
>>392221
Oh trust me, I'm well aware that my main problem is not making myself visible. Still, you haven't lived until literally the first words a girl says to you are "Your hair is so nice. I hate you." Bitch if you're going to try and approach me at least be sincere with your compliments.
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No.392226
>>392224
>girl gives you a compliment
>so insanely autistic you take it as an insult that she is jealous of your nice hair
Are you actually retarded? Like do you have a mental disorder? And obviously girls aren't going to be interested in you when you try to be a trap you colossal moron. Girls do not like feminine guys. Cut your faggy hair, start eating more, and go to the gym if you want a gf you incel fuck.
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No.392230
>>392208
Honestly both directions this can go is bad. If you're too puritan than contact like that is just automatically bad, but too loose and you're a whore so physical contact loses all meaning. I prefer the puritan side because it at least tries to preserve the philosophy that intimacy with someone is special and not something to be done freely.
>>392224
>Maybe I've been doing something wrong
Treat it more like opening the door. You've got contact with them, they know you now, and so you've got an opening to socialize in other ways provided you make the move to.
It drives my players nuts but all throughout the week I try to get involved with them via vidya, asking if they want to join a one shot with me, if it's an in person group asking if they want some special kind of snacks, so on.
Also I feel your pain. Girls tend to compliment my eyes but I got no way to respond to them. Pretty sure most are fishing for a return compliment but even if they aren't thats not a conversation starter. Just like an awkward thanks most of the time.
Hell last time it happened was a fucking Wendy's drive through like that's the place for it. Like 90% sure it was a snide thing though since the other two with her laughed.
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No.392246
>tfw the only thing other people pay attention to is your skin color
>dont want to be discriminated or fetishized, just loved and respected by someone worth my time
When did you realize you were playing a losers game and your chances of winning were non existent
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No.392308
>>392234
Probably because you were some weird creepy beta. So instead of working on improving and becoming a proper man you just give up and try to switch teams. You are the fucking definition of prison gay and you should kill yourself because you are as pathetic as it gets.
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No.392309
>>392234
You sound like you're crafting a narrative to make it seem like women in general are out to get you for no discernible reason. It's narcissistic to think that you live in a world where you're doing everything right but it's just everyone else who seems to have an irrational hatred for you.
I guarantee you that you project insecurities and in general a negative attitude towards most of the people you interact with and it just drives them away. the only way to work on this is to honestly asses yourself and improve in areas where you're lacking.
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No.392363
>>392309
this is actually good advice
>>392316
"it's everybody's fault but my own"
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No.392381
>>392363
I never said this at all. Instead I keep responding to people who are putting words in my mouth and I keep having to defend myself for things I never said it thought, so I'll stop now
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No.392385
>>392049
On the the one hand yes. The Millennial/ Gen Z cohort is in a social-personal crisis. On the other hand, this is nothing new. If you look at the Boomers and Gen X, theyre all cutting ties with lovers and friends bc they get on each others nerves. But hey. As usual, young people are always viable as scapegoats for any national crisis. As long as youre over 35, you will never be held responsible for humanitys ills.
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No.392810
>>391704
I use to think grass is greener when I was an in-denial straight
now im openly bi and I see the shitty sides of both
guys are fun to be around but are mostly masculine which im not attracted to, cute guys are almost always slutty when they arent heterosexual (after all they look that way for a reason and its never JUST for themselves)
girls are pretty and theres no "god I hope theyre gay" struggle with boys but theyre boring as sin and entitled because of hetero dating culture to the point that treating them like everyone else is somehow "rude"
fuck I just want a purehearted qt, who can hold a fucking conversation and takes care of their looks for their own self satisfaction and doesnt sleep around chasing bugs
if I can fucking do it why cant others???
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