No.688 [Last50 Posts]
>gf nagging me to go sleep with more other girls
>geez, FINE
>join hookup app
>go on hookup date with interesting & pretty girl from app
>mention on profile upfront how gf knows and likes that I'm on a hookup app
>all signs pre-date very positive
>date goes well, much sexual tension and flirting, escalation, all that good stuff
>she brings up gf
>"So you're in an open relationship?"
>her body language is around "fuck me in 10 minutes" level
>"Half-open. I wander, she doesn't. We both like it that way."
>stunned, shocked silence for a few seconds
>"So… so she's okay with you and other girls even though she doesn't get other men?"
>"Yes, that's right. She likes it that way. It's fun for both of us."
>repeated utterences of "wow" and so forth
>her body language turns intimidated, anxious, in shock, then closed
>all sexual tension disappears instantly
>what would have been a nice one night stand fizzles completely
>mfw this has happened 3 times now, to the same script
Every time, /cuckquean/, every fucking time. Honesty is my watchword and I don't like to lie, but it's starting to get annoying.
Most other girls who display interest seem fine with sleeping with me if they think I'm cheating and they seem okay with the idea of a bilateral open relationship, but the idea that I'm the only one sleeping around seems to trigger the reaction above more than I like. I mean, okay - I know it's weird and I expect some curiosity but intimidation? They were only planning a ONS with me anyway and knew I was partnered, why would the particular arrangement between my gf and I affect attraction to me?
Anyone else get this kind of thing? What else frustrating you got, cuckqueans and partners?
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No.689
Makes sense. People these days are trained to see any sort of imbalance in a relationship as a bad thing, and usually abuse if the man appears to benefit from it while the woman appears to not.
Which, really, is what this fetish tends to look like to outsiders. BDSM is only just starting to get away from the '(male) doms are abusers and (female) subs are their victims' perception, and even that is with the general knowledge of 'some people like being subs' helping it along in the public eye.
Cuckqueaning, though, appears like a dom/sub relationship where the sub gets…. nothing. Which just makes people think it's a horrible, controlling man, forcing a weak, unwilled woman to let him sleep around while not letting her do the same.
Thanks, feminism!
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No.690
>>689>Which, really, is what this fetish tends to look like to outsiders. BDSM is only just starting to get away from the '(male) doms are abusers and (female) subs are their victims' perception, and even that is with the general knowledge of 'some people like being subs' helping it along in the public eye. One cuckquean I've spoken to about this frames it as a kind of culture shock. People kiiind of get the idea of normal power exchange, but they're adding an invisible counterweight on the sub's side of the balance sheet and labelling it things like "she likes it" or "she holds the
real power" - all excuses that keep their larger model of the world intact. Something like cuckqueaning, though? It throws that counterweight out and forces them to confront the idea that a woman is willingly embracing an asymmetric relationship arrangement which "disadvantages" them, for reasons the person can't understand or sympathise with.
(I think that cuckolding might be mostly immune to this effect, but I don't know anything about the cuckold scene or if hotwives have similar problems finding other partners, so I can't really say.)
But none of this explains why often girls are much more likely to have little objection to sleeping with me if they think I'm cheating on my gf (which disadvantages her too except in secret and with their collusion), or why the specific read I get off them is being intimidated by the arrangement rather than being, say, fearful or disgusted.
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No.691
>>688>repeated utterences of "wow" Disclaimer: this post and the subject matter and contents thereof - text, media, or otherwise - do not necessarily reflect the views of the 8kun administration.
No.692
>>690
>Norms just don't understand.Ain't that the truth. While the cuckqueans
do get something out of it, it's mostly emotional and primal, and not easily quantified. Validation of her mate's power, desirability, and virility, knowledge that he can have sex with all kinds of women but still come back to her emotionally and sexually, etc.
>Cuckolding is (perhaps) mostly immuneThis, I think, is mostly because people just can't see men as being victims by and large. If a man is in a relationship that 'disadvantages' him, it must be because he wants it that way. And if he doesn't, too bad, girl power. Or so the general public tends to think.
>Cheating versus cuckqueaningIn cheating, the women helping you to cheat are exerting power, competing with another woman, and validating their self-image of being so desirable that you're willing to betray someone you are involved with for them. Basically, you're a tool for them to achieve a feeling of winning at life.
In cuckqueaning, they don't get any of that. If they don't have the fetish, or any associated ones, all they get is sex, while some woman watches them. And if they wanted that, they could go to any bar in town.
>Intimidation versus other emotionsI would say that intimidation involves some fear, but I think it does come back to the power equation, at least in part. When they find out the other woman is not just in on it (which removes her competitive motivations), but is seemingly at your mercy,
you become the one with all the power. She realizes that she isn't going to be using you, but that you will be using her.
But I am no psychologist.
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No.729
>>692>it's mostly emotional and primal, and not easily quantifiedAmen to that. It's a hellava rush is what it is.
>If a man is in a relationship that 'disadvantages' him, it must be because he wants it that way. And if he doesn't, too bad, girl power.This: A good summary.
> the women helping you to cheat are exerting power, competing with another woman, and validating their self-image of being so desirable that you're willing to betray someone you are involved with for them. Basically, you're a tool for them to achieve a feeling of winning at life.Yup. If you cheat with them, they get the feeling they can have you whenever they want. They could even steal you away, they feel, even though they don't actually want to.
>all they get is sex, while some woman watches themThe watching is optional, strictly speaking. Which is good because in my experience only a tiny minority are okay with it. I'd think that sex with a cuckquean's man would tend to be better than average but I'm biased.
>When they find out the other woman is not just in on it (which removes her competitive motivations), but is seemingly at your mercy, you become the one with all the power.Not only the man, but the cuckquean too! This cuckquean of which the girl has just been told is so confident, so assured of her mate's loyalty that not only does she permit him to go a'hunting but encourages it because she gets off on it too. Not only that but she doesn't wander herself.
How the fuck is any normal girl supposed to compete with that kind of woman? Of course the poor thing's intimidated. Maybe. It's just a theory.
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No.730
>>729>Good points and firsthand knowledge.Words from experience are always useful for developing better understanding. Especially on the emotional side of things.
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No.741
I really get off on it if they think my man is cheating with them so this works pretty much to my benefit.
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No.743
>>689#1 reason why I let the wife approach the girls first.
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No.782
I never know exactly how friendly to be with the Other Woman. My dream is to be good friends with the girls my man fucks, go out shopping together, have his dick be a naughty shared secret. It'd be so, so nice.
But it's hard to find girls that are both okay with the arrangement and don't just want to be a ONS.
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No.810
>>688Only that between the other women and my own girl's hugely increased sex drive after I cuck her, I'm discovering that it might be possible to get too much sex.
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No.827
>>826
Neither the board nor the thread are about you complaining about yourself, so this simply isn't of interest. Not your pros, nor your cons. Why would it be? These are generic frustrations, not cuckqueaning ones.
Hence r9k, where you can talk about yourself all you like.
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No.828
>>826
>that board actually seems cool
If you want it to say a good board, don't contribute to it with feels about things that are really content for the board.
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No.1096
>boyfriend organises all-night Friday night sex session with a pretty vixen
>spend all week being excited and eagerly anticipating the cucking
>she has to cancel at the last minute
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No.1228
>>1227
tl;dr:
>after lots of innuendo I pass the message through
>we kinda discuss it
>make semi-organized arangements
>I realize it's too much for me IRL and chicken out crying
>he comforts me but probably thinks I'm crazy
>he won't even look at other girls now plus he's kinda cold compared to before and he might secretly hate me or feel disgusted
>probably spiraling the situation south due to my increasing insecurity and neediness
Fug…
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No.1229
>>1228
Aww, that sounds like a real stumble you had there. How long ago did this happen?
If you don't mind me asking, how much did you talk about it with him beforehand and what did he say he thought about the concept? What arrangements were made? Tell us more; no need to tl;dr.
>probably thinks I'm crazy
>he might secretly hate me or feel disgusted
>probably spiraling the situation south
I know it feels that way, but is there any evidence that these "secret" or "probably" things are actually true? Have you talked about it with him?
Our fetish involves a lot of shame and edginess; I wouldn't be surprised if him being "kinda cold" is actually due to plain old confusion.
We're just fellow-anons, but let us try to help.
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No.1231
>>1228
At what stage did you chicken out and why? Not that you shouldn't have, but it the time and means you did might explain some things.
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No.1232
>>1228
sounds like you are afraid of letting him go for the first time. you might need more time to ease into it, but on the other hand you might just need to be pushed. i think that is a call you will have to make after some reflection.
>he won't even look at other girls now plus he's kinda cold compared to before
yeah he probably isn't gonna look at other girls until he is really sure that you are alright with it, and even then he might need some pushing cause he is gonna remember what happened this time. he might seem cold now just out of confusion and not really knowing wtf to do so he just won't do anything but wait and react. guys aren't good at reading other people.
DON'T WORRY this situation is no one's fault but you might have to be the one to make the first move towards resolving this pickle and moving forward. just remember that you are in this together so don't be afraid to really open up to him
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No.1234
>>1228
Hellava hiccup, but that's probably all it is - a hiccup! I think you already see that your worries about it are making you clingier which just spirals.
Like >>1229 and >>1232 said, your boyfriend's probably being cautious because he's disoriented and doesn't want to accidentally upset you any further and that's coming off cold. Bursting into tears tends to freak guys out. If you communicated your desires via innuendo, only kinda discussed it and semi organised it, that increases margin for possible confusion.
So now it's up to you to go somewhere comfy (pic related) and really figure out your own feelings on the matter. Once you're feeling more sure of yourself and how you feel, he'll probably sense it and warm back up so you can talk together about it.
My girlfriend and I really eased into this carefully and we still hit a few bumps along the way. Everyone does.
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No.1253
>>1234
Building on your first point, it's been proven that women's tears actually contain a pheromone that acts as an anti-aphrodesiac
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No.1254
>>1253
>women's tears actually contain a pheromone that acts as an anti-aphrodesiac
Speak for yourself…
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No.1314
Guess it's time for >>1228 to disappear for another few months.
I hope she'll be okay.
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No.1375
So why is it spelled "quean"? I saw an image several years ago with "cuckqueen" written on a woman but now apparently it just doesn't work that way.
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No.1379
>>1375
This gets asked a lot; have a look over at the terminology thread starting from >>272
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No.1399
I don't know if this counts but it's frustrating me so I'll post.
I have a girlfriend who is a confirmed cuckquean, though very shy about it (and sex/things in general), and I'm trying to understand exactly what the whole idea is.
What exactly is the appeal/fantasy for her? For me to like other girls more than her? That they're prettier than her? That they're tighter, or younger, or better? If I called her ugly or pointed out some flaw in her appearance or something, is that going to turn her on? If I check out women on the street or mention that they look hotter than her, is that a good thing?
I'm not sure if I want to take the full step of straight up polygamy yet, but I wouldn't mind turning her on. So what should I do?
In actuality she's the #1 girl for me due to her inner and outer beauty combined but if feeling like she's not is what's necessary to turn her on then I'm willing to do it. I just don't know where to start.
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No.1401
>>1399
The core of the cuckquean idea is: Your girlfriend stays your girlfriend, but you have sex with other women with her full knowledge while she remains monogamous to you. That's it. There's tons of different permutations that grow around this core, with each cuckquean bringing a different cocktail of related fetishes. Someone listed some dimensions at >>263 for example. A big part of it for many across the spectrum is that they get off on their partner's sexual success - i.e. "oh goodness my boyfriend is such a stud that he can pick up and fuck the brains out of all these other pretty girls".
So for you, it's a matter of finding out what makes cuckqueaning fun for her and why she's drawn to it. Finding out how/why she became "confirmed" as a cuckquean might be a good first step.
There are plenty of posts scattered around this board from various types of cuckquean, elaborating on their fantasies and motivations. Reading those might help you get an idea of what the possibilities are.
For example, my cuckquean girlfriend gets off on me enjoying variety and pleasure with other girls. She doesn't go for the humiliation or inferiority aspect, really. She loves being my #1 girl and especially enjoys welcoming me back home with sex after I've been out with another girl. She loves watching me in action, but she still gets off on thinking about it even if she's not there. She loves sniffing me when I come home, trying to smell traces of the other girl on me. She's not bisexual and doesn't like interacting sexually with the other girls if she does watch. She enjoys comparisons not because they degrade her but because they provide an insight into what I've been enjoying with the vixens, which for her is raw fetish energy.
>For me to like other girls more than her? That they're prettier than her? That they're tighter, or younger, or better?
Maybe. For many cuckqueans it wouldn't be a matter of you liking them more, but rather liking them too.
>If I called her ugly or pointed out some flaw in her appearance or something, is that going to turn her on?
Depends. If she's into very direct humiliation and degradation, she might. But probably not. Even the girls who do get off on comparisons with the vixen get off on her being better, not them being worse.
>If I check out women on the street or mention that they look hotter than her, is that a good thing?
Checking out women on the street is very likely to be a hit no matter what kind of cuckquean she is. Mentioning that they look hot is likely to be well-received. Saying that they look hotter than her is not as certain, for the reasons outlined above.
>I'm not sure if I want to take the full step of straight up polygamy yet
Cuckqueaning =/= polygamy. It can be a gateway to poly for some cuckqueans, but it's not like cuckqueaning is merely an intermediate step on the way to poly. Polygamy has to do with maintaining committed relationships with multiple women, while cuckqueaning involves maintaining one committed relationship while still sleeping around.
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No.1402
Didn't want to make a whole thread for this but I fucking hate this fetish more than anything else in the world. This is more disturbing to me than even the thought of sex with a baby, killing it, and then having sex with the dead baby. I cannot think of anything more repulsive and depraved than cuckqueaning and cuckolding. I can understand enjoying your boyfriend being seen as sexually desirable; I myself enjoy it a lot when other women hit on my boyfriend or act like shy little girls swooning over their senpai around him. But it's the fact that he coldly turns them down because he is committed to me that is exciting to me. I don't understand why you would want the person you love more than anything else in the world to actually have sex with another woman. Pls help me get over my irrational hatred of you people if it's not against the board's rules; if I can understand you maybe I won't hate you so much.
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No.1404
>>1402
>This is more disturbing to me than even the thought of sex with a baby, killing it, and then having sex with the dead baby.
>Pls help me get over my irrational hatred of you people if it's not against the board's rules; if I can understand you maybe I won't hate you so much.
If we're rating as worse than murderfucking babies and post-murderfuck necrofucking babies, I don't know if it's possible to do that. Even if we rank up past aforementioned pedosnuff there's still a long way to climb, y'know?
I just think my boyfriend fucking is really hot. Doesn't necessarily have to be me he's fucking - it's still hot. I absolutely don't want anyone else but him sexually and he agrees, so we're cuckqueaning. Doesn't humiliate or degrade me at all - I just get really excited and tingly and happy at how much fun he's having. Then I fuck him afterwards and it feels amazing. I trust him unconditionally with my heart like this because he's proven himself worthy of that trust.
If you don't get tingly and excited but instead your stomach drops and you feel sick at the thought of your boyfriend fucking someone else (and you don't enjoy those feelings), then of course you'd hate the idea of cuckqueaning.
I don't know what else to tell you other than that you can hate cuckqueaning without hating cuckqueans.
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No.1406
>>1402
I'd like to help anon, but I'll need to know more.
First, what specifically is it you have such an aversion to? Is it the people who cuckquean, the abstract idea of cuckqueaning, or is it the thoughts associated?
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No.1411
>>1402
…..yeaahh… What's your opinion on cuckolding?
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No.1494
>>1402
>I don't want my husband to fuck other women
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No.1495
>>1494
It's like my girl always says: "Any woman that doesn't enjoy her man fucking other women is a woman with only one thing to offer."
Basically she's saying that if the sex alone was enough to make your man leave you for good then chances are you didn't have anything else to add to the relationship outside of sex
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No.1496
>>1411
>>1411
She does say she feels the same way about cuckolding.
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No.1499
>>1495
Good point. Never quite thought of it that way.
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No.1500
>>1499
Honestly I find that a lot of people are insecure about this kind of thing, especially nowadays. Sex is important but it's not the only defining thing in a relationship. Sure sometimes you want to bring in a new flavor of the week girl in to spice things up but at the end of the day if your husband still fucks you with passion and love, what does it matter? That's the beautiful part of cuckqueaning: that at the end of the day your man will return to you. And he'll be smelling like other girls
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No.1517
>>1500
>And he'll be smelling like other girls
This is one of my favourite parts. I love it when Master comes home from cucking me without showering first.
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No.1523
>>1517
>>1500
I've always been really fascinated by how much this specific thing (the smell of other girls) turns some women on.
An ex of mine even admitted to temporarily stealing some of my shirts because they had the commingled smells of myself and the new girl I was seeing. She would use one for fantasy fuel when I wasn't available, then eventually wash it and covertly return it.
Also, if she smelled another girl's scent on the bed or couch, she'd be wet almost immediately.
What is it about the smell, specifically, that does that, you think?
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No.1524
>>1523
I really like Master's smell, so I guess I'm already sensitive to scent. Like, when he has to go away on a trip or something he'll leave me one of his shirts so I can smell him on it when I get lonely.
His scent mixed with another girl's is just… really nice and pleasant. It's also concrete proof that he's been with said girl and they've been all over each other.
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No.1525
>>1523
From my own experience most women I've seen are really smell oriented. So much so that a lot of women I've talked to say that part of their initial attraction to someone has to do with the way they smell. Women in general from what I've noticed are very sensitive to smell, at least when compared to men, so I think that has a big part to play in things as well.
Also for many cuckqueans it acts as "proof" that a sexual, or a the very least intimate, transaction occurred between her man and another woman. Same thing as lipstick on the collar of the shirt. It's just that extra bit of evidence that makes it more "real" for the quean and thus that much more enjoyable for her.
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No.1529
>>688
Your gf should be the one picking up the chicks
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No.1564
>>1525
Another post in a different thread >>1025 also supports this theory. I wonder if there's a strong correlation between the 'queans that like smelling the other girl on their man and the 'queans that like tasting traces of her on his cock?
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No.1569
>>688
I understand it.
If I met up with a womand and she told me her boyfriend was a cuckold, I would no longer be into her.
Her fetish is fine and I hope they enjoy it. BUt I don't want to be part of it.
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No.1571
>>690
>I don't know anything about the cuckold scene or if hotwives have similar problems finding other partners, so I can't really say
They don't, believe me, women can get pretty much any guy to have a one night stand with them no matter the situation, as long as they're not completly fugly and repulsive they're set for life.
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No.1572
>>1571
> as long as they're not completly fugly and repulsive they're set for life.
Even then, that's what black dudes are for. I wish I was just being racist here, but that's part of the allure of the fetish: Guys looking for other guys who find their women attractive, in an attempt to validate their decision to partner up with said woman.
Cuckqueanism tends to be more up front about that particular aspect. Most of you admit to getting turned on because your man is attractive to other women. In mainstream relationships it's a big no-no for people to acknowledge that a woman in a relationship is unattractive, but the same doesn't apply to men. It's especially taboo for her partner to acknowledge this even if her physical appearance isn't what draws him to her.
Cuckolding is just racist that way, but at least it's benign racism. White guys have that perception that black guys will fuck anything, and ugly white women are just happy for the attention.
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No.1634
>>1569
Short version of one of my more fucked up nights
> couple picks me up in a bar pays for my drinks all night
> invite me back to hotel I'm thinking it'll be a MMF and the husband didnt give of a bi vibe so im thinking a spitroast. (i'm not into dude so that works in my favor)
> Start with the wife
> husband is in corner
> she starts talking shit on him
> after its all done I go to leave and the husband gives me $100
> Bonus points: it was their anniversary.
I wound up being a whore for a cuckold couple, that shit stays with you.
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No.1636
>gf nagging me to go sleep with more other girls
>geez, FINE
You have some imagination there
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No.1637
>>1636
>he can't pick up on gentle self-depricating irony
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No.1638
>>1569
Suddenly, it all makes sense.
>>1634
> after its all done I go to leave and the husband gives me $100
This is the really fucked up part. Why would you post-fact turn someone into a whore? Arrange and pay for it up front if you're gonna pay at all.
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No.1924
>>1402
The problem you may be having is the one real aspect of cuckqueaning / cuckolding which is very similar to poly is the power dynamic of sex. I'm coming at this from the poly angle & encourage marriage over one-night stands, but it's all the same to you.
The power dynamic is usually discussed in BDSM terms, but I'm talking real life, not a game. Most Christian wives that I know see themselves as head of the house, their husband as another one of the kids, & the argument against poly is "no man can serve two masters".
Scripturally speaking, this is the EXACT opposite relationship that a New Testament husband & wife should have. "Wives, submit to your husbands." 1 Cor 7:1 & other passages refer to husband to wife as a 1:many relationship while wife to husband is a 1:1 relationship. These are the same as used to describe a master to slave (1:many) & slave to master (1:1).
Satan makes us think of ourselves as masters & free instead of slaves. Some will likely object to me bringing up the Bible at all. We naturally want to be free of all rules, all standards, & all external inhibitions to our innate desires.
The truth is you're afraid. Fear makes you seek to control every aspect of your life &, failing that, to control every aspect of your SOs life to fall within your realm of 'normal'. Odd, isn't it. We rebel against being a slave by enslaving others. We rebel against fear by buttressing our fears & making ourselves more fearful. Today, you're afraid of him having sex w another woman, then it's talking to other women, then it's looking at other women, then it's thinking about other women. Are u feeling in control & I afraid, yet? Nope.
Your imagination drives you into the nuthouse in fear that he might be unfaithful to the high degree of slavery that you've reduced him to. Where's the happy, handsome, adventurous man you fell in love w? Trapped in chains trying in "FALSE LOVE" to yield to your every whim & fear. If he truly loved you, he'd stand up & be a man to your insanity before u destroy both of you. Love does what's BEST; it doesn't
just do what you ask for. The path your walking isn't best. It's suicidal.
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No.1937
>>1924
>>>/christian/ will likely net you better discussion on those scriptural interpretations.
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No.2026
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No.2040
>>2026
Game Theory.
Not even once.>>2026
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No.2047
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No.2050
>>2026
Bad, Anon! BAD!
Now go sit in the corner and think about what you've done! And watch your man fuck a prettier girl
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No.3276
Quit talking about your gf while hitting up other women, you fucking autist. Holy shit, this better be b8.
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No.3289
>>1924
The power dynamic is usually discussed in BDSM terms, but I'm talking real life, not a game. Most Christian wives that I know see themselves as head of the house, their husband as another one of the kids, & the argument against poly is "no man can serve two masters".
Scripturally speaking, this is the EXACT opposite relationship that a New Testament husband & wife should have. "Wives, submit to your husbands." 1 Cor 7:1 & other passages refer to husband to wife as a 1:many relationship while wife to husband is a 1:1 relationship. These are the same as used to describe a master to slave (1:many) & slave to master (1:1).
Satan makes us think of ourselves as masters & free instead of slaves. Some will likely object to me bringing up the Bible at all. We naturally want to be free of all rules, all standards, & all external inhibitions to our innate desires.
The truth is you're afraid. Fear makes you seek to control every aspect of your life &, failing that, to control every aspect of your SOs life to fall within your realm of 'normal'. Odd, isn't it. We rebel against being a slave by enslaving others. We rebel against fear by buttressing our fears & making ourselves more fearful. Today, you're afraid of him having sex w another woman, then it's talking to other women, then it's looking at other women, then it's thinking about other women. Are u feeling in control & I afraid, yet? Nope.
Your imagination drives you into the nuthouse in fear that he might be unfaithful to the high degree of slavery that you've reduced him to. Where's the happy, handsome, adventurous man you fell in love w? Trapped in chains trying in "FALSE LOVE" to yield to your every whim & fear. If he truly loved you, he'd stand up & be a man to your insanity before u destroy both of you. Love does what's BEST; it doesn't just do what you ask for. The path your walking isn't best. It's suicidal.
So, new copypasta?
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