/co/ - Comics & Cartoons

>centers around

So basically a gay main character? I only know gay erotica/porn comics that have that, besides some boring non-porn webcomics that I wouldn't recommend to anyone… Otherwise I really can't help you.

>>1039249

>>1039249

>make a comic center around character with X characteristic

>X is highly controversial and not related to things that fill daily life

>only way it comes up in conversation often is if you constantly point it out to people or all your problems stem from it

>audiences do not want to be reminded about X except to have their views reinforced

<is it possible to make a profit on a series all about X but make it not propaganda or pandering?

No.

<is it possible to make a series that just throws away money?

Yes but most people don't want to do that.

>>1039251

Porn I'd say falls into pandering, but then again you could fit almost anything into pandering loosely. I think the bigger problem is that sexuality comes second to most characters and most gays are brought up thinking "loud and proud" is an ideal so any comic about it is going to be all about their ideals since separating politics and art is a dead thought. You could honestly just say "Any comic where a character doesn't express any sexuality" and be just as right.

>>1039259

Basically this. Being gay could only generate so much content for storytelling before it becomes full on in-your-face virtue signaling… I honestly can't see sexuality in general having any real impact on a "normal" comic unless the comic includes romance and relationshit.

>>1039263

>You could honestly just say "Any comic where a character doesn't express any sexuality" and be just as right.

That might as well be the "safest" way to put gay characters in your comic without compromising your audience both straight and gay, I don't like seeing faggy shit in my capes either.

Just let fans speculate; straight readers will assume all characters are straight by default, and tumblrinas will "ship" dude characters together and get high off the thought. It's a win/win.

Case in point: Samurai Jack always assumed to be gay by lefties due to his celibate attitude (not actively bothering to find a SO, not showing interest/attraction towards girls he met…etc), same thing for Ashi before she boned him.

Any comic form of the Illiad, because Achilles is closest to the protagonist and he's a big butt bandit. You could say it's propaganda because he comes off looking so terrible though.

>>1039249

Original stormwarch.

>>1039305

>That third one

That looks cool as fuck as long as I don't see dicks or any gay sex I'd read it. A big /fit/ dude kicking monsters asses pls no fugging is great

Just make a comic about yourself, OP.

>>1039312

>>1039305

Waugh was pretty fun yeah. Was published in 2000 A.D. originally and canonically shared a universe with Dredd.

Actually does anyone have the full publication run? The copy I was able to find has fucked up indexing and is straight up missing huge parts.

>>1039347

Go pester the share thread newfag.

>>1039281

>>1039299

>>1039302

>>1039305

Thanks for these. I was able to find pretty much all of them except the Zsazsa one, anywhere I can get it?

>>1039347

GC has a copy, just get it from there:

https://getcomics.info/other-comics/devlin-waugh-vol-1-2-tpb-2014-2015/

>>1039312

Just skimmed through the comic; there is no sex however there is some nudity, genitals are for the most part obstructed. If you're okay with the average M-rated DC/Marvel nudity then this comic should be no problem for you.

>>1039302

I was going to mention Apollo and the Midnighter from Ellis-era Stormwatch and the Authority, but I can't remember if it was as unobtrusive as I remember it. I was a lot more accepting of that before, when they weren't forcing that shit everywhere.

>>1039291

Any specific comics you would recommend?

>>1039404

>but I can't remember if it was as unobtrusive as I remember it. I was a lot more accepting of that before, when they weren't forcing that shit everywhere.

Considering both comics debuted in the 1990s there's a high chance it was unobtrusive, and you accepting it because of that. As far as I can remember it wasn't until the late 2000s that comics started aggressively pushing faggots in readers' faces.

>>1039348

>>1039400

>>1039405

>>1039406

Anon, I can understand that you're frustrated being deep in the closet but you'll have to resolve your identity crisis elsewhere. We're just trying to read some comics.

>>1039512

>spiderette

Oh boy that cuckchannel trash, do we need another thread shitting on that crappy webcomic again?

>>1039454

This looks interesting, although I'm slightly skeptical because it was released in 2010. Will check it out anyway.

>>1039517

>spiderette

You mean "spinnerette"?

>do we need another thread shitting on that crappy webcomic again?

Sure, why not. You do the honors.

>>1039520 (You)

>>1039512

>Shmorkey

>Not chugging cum&soy flavored kool-aid by the gallon

>>1039512

Top tier bait. I'm impressed.

>>1039549

Then why are you biting it while giving it a bump?

>>1039249

Everyone is gay in Scott Pilgrim besides Scott Pilgrim. Not even kidding.

>>1039657

Oh yeah, I never read Sandman but I heard Desire was based on Patrick Nagel's women.

>>1039552

Because it's top tier bait. Pay attention.

>>1039512

>shmorky

I must remind everyone.

>>1039249

>thread's theme

>>1039724

>whaddya

This isnt Reddit OP and instead of being an actual faggot go out and actually storytime shit. If not do everyone a favor and kill yourself.

>>1039724

80s women in general were very androgynous. It was the age that popularized female suits and pants. It was the dark age of fashion indeed.

>>1039820

>>1039827

>>>/a/

>>1039881

>Locas

>the gay faggot op was a spic after all

Color me shocked.

>>1039274

First two are actually funny

>>1039249

Wow this thread is absolute shit, aids infected and all.

>>1040042

I'd hardly count constantine. He's basically the dumbledore of comic books.

>>1039249

>>1039404

>CTRL+F

>only one result for midnighter

at least there is one anon with competence on /co/

>>1040077

I was ignoring it for the first few days because of the OP, and then I thought about it and remembered that that's actually a good comic series

>>1040079

Yeah and if the OP wasn't a newfag piece of trash he would've known that already. Dont support his thread, you should be shitting on him for even thinking this thread was a good idea.

>>1040042

>hack/slash

she started as adyke…. then went back to the good old dickriding

And oh look, the mod has bumplocked the thread. WHAT A SURPRISE.

>>1040873

Believe it or not, I don't live on this board.

>>1040872

Really? It doesn't show the anchor sign on my end.

>>1040899

Well, it's not bumping and I'm 90% sure we're not at the limit.

Stealth anchoring is a thing, apparently. As if nobody would notice.

>>1040941

We're nowhere near the bump limit, I'm afraid the thread's anchored… It's bad enough that a volunteer set a bumplock with no valid reason, but trying to hide it from the users? That is beyond low.

>>1040917

>>1040912

>>1040923

Why is white hair so popular? It just makes the guy look like he's 50 years old.

>>1040966

I've been here since Power Girl Autist wiped the board. I'm well aware of /co/'s moderation style and managerial shortcomings. I just don't accept mediocrity as paradigm.

>>1041006

I'm guessing they used white hair to emphasize the supernatural side of the character, without sacrificing the "aryan look". But then again we have characters like Storm from X-Men.

>>1041247

Glad you liked it! I was worried it would come off as a bit boring but guess I was wrong…

Any preferences on what I should storytime next? I have a few comics queued up, but I thought I'd ask anyway since you're pretty much the only anon still checking the thread.

>>1041248

It don't matter. Dump whatever. I'll probably read it.

>>1040872

>And oh look, the mod has bumplocked the thread.

The funniest part is this one showed up in the "Quality Threads" on the homepage. It's like the retardation of the terrible mod is put on full display for every other board to laugh at.

As for OP's question, I can't give any good recommendations. I am, however, going to bitch about starting to read a new webcomic, and a dozen pages in it turns out to be nothing but fucking gay porn.

Like

>Hmm, a comic about desert wandering lizard people? This is pretty interAAAAAND NOW IT'S GAY PORN

>A comic about waking up in an android body? Seems pretAAAAAAAND NOW IT'S GAY PORN

It's like a 50/50 chance whether any random science fiction or fantasy webcomic is actually about science fiction or fantasy, or whether it's just gay porn with a robot or dragon in the background.

>>1041278

>>Hmm, a comic about desert wandering lizard people? This is pretty interAAAAAND NOW IT'S GAY PORN

>>>A comic about waking up in an android body? Seems pretAAAAAAAND NOW IT'S GAY PORN

I once read a comic about a chubby antisocial wageslave in a post apocalyptic cyberpunk society that developed in a crater that was an extremist capitalist market where the corporations literally ran the entire government with interesting concepts like personal social time even off work was taxed and body mods being a fashion trend and also incredibly common due to how many covered up accidents happen in the world who falls in love with a guy who was in a lower cast than him but moved up after one of said accidents and the corporation deemed it fit to compensate him enough to bump him up a social level.

It was softcore porn and romance. I was really upset. The art wasn't too bad, but the concept was utterly wasted on the plot.

>>1041284

>I was really upset. The art wasn't too bad, but the concept was utterly wasted on the plot.

I know. This shit pisses me off to no end. Not because of "le gay agenda" or whatever the fuck, but because I don't like "romance" stories to begin with (in quotes, because calling the typical one of these webcomics "romance" is stretching the definition of "porn").

And I hate how they advertise themselves as being anything other than shitty porn, because usually there's a good, I don't know, 20-30 pages of worldbuilding that make you excited for the story, until every single page after that is just gay porn, or leading to gay porn.

This is probably the problem OP has. It seems like more often than not, if a character is a fag, then the entire story centers entirely around faggotry. Since I don't give a shit about romance stories, it's comparable to writing a capeshit character who's super power is "THE GUY WHO HAS SEX WITH WOMEN!" Like, it's boring as shit. I don't care who or what you fuck, that's not enough to get me engaged in an actual story.

>>1041287

>it's comparable to writing a capeshit character who's super power is "THE GUY WHO HAS SEX WITH WOMEN!"

Also, I just realized I accidentally described the plot of "Least I Could Do", which is also complete and utter shit.

>>1041288

The thing about Least I could do is that it's essentially a newspaper comic. A gag a day comic strip that's not meant to tell a grander story. It's meant for humor. You just read it and move on. I can forgive a comic like that for existing because it doesn't pretend to be anything more than just a stupid simple 3-5 panel comic strip.

>>1041278

>>1041284

>>1041287

The thing with webcomics, which are typically indie, is that there's no quality control from higher up. You are your own boss, for better or worse… Wanna insert random nude shots / sex scenes into a non-romance comic? Sure why not. Wanna overshadow your story with fan service and man-waifus? Go right ahead.

Homosexuality as a personal aspect to begin with is centered around love and/or sex, to include such an aspect in your work immediately means you have to include love/sex elements… The alternative of course being that you use homosexuality as an "identity" (i.e. men being effeminate and flamboyant, women being manly and butch) which is almost guaranteed to make your character shit. All in all it's pretty much a lose/lose situation unless you're an experienced writer who can allude to characters' sexuality in a non-derailing way.

>Hmm, a comic about desert wandering lizard people? This is pretty interAAAAAND NOW IT'S GAY PORN

>A comic about waking up in an android body? Seems pretAAAAAAAND NOW IT'S GAY PORN

These do sound kinda interesting, and I don't really mind the porn. Care to give a link?

>>1041351

>I bump-locked this thread because of the non-stop stream of shit-posts flooding into it and the non-stop stream of reports filling my inbox. I was spending most of my day just dealing with this thread, so I assumed it would be best for everyone that I bump-lock it and let it slide off the front page.

That's understandable, thank you for the clarification. Although, since the thread itself didn't break any rules, leaving it alone would have been the right thing to do.

>hopefully it won't get spammed to hell and back.

It will more or less happen, inevitably. Just please deal with the spam itself instead of the thread, you already do that with all other threads so this one should be no different.

Best of luck Yanni.

sage for off-topic

>>1041611

>kake

Oh this brings me back… It's basically just porn though.

>>1041611

>pervert

>good

Holy shit it is the tumblr furry tranny.

>>1041621

>random whore

>Lord Fanny

Leave this place, and never return.

>>1041625

You're right, she's a massive slut fill to the brim with crabs.

>>1039249

>>>/b/

>>1041611

>I could make a case for Wonder Woman and Harley Quinn, depending on who is writing them…

But both are canon bisexuals. Wonder Woman's creator was a full blown feminist cuck with two domwives and believed everyone was some form of bisexual while Harley Quinn is obvious as fuck. I'm pretty sure Dini confirmed it too.

>>1041611

>The Pervert

At least you finally realized there's no point in hiding who you really are.

>>1041609

>I might do a part of iZombie next since it's still a very interesting comic, but don't expect any considerable gay elements as those come much later into the story.

You should probably make a whole nother thread about it. Just don't mention the gay stuff in the title or you'll get endless shitting. Let people enjoy the read and discover on their own.

>>1041678

I might just do that and storytime the entire thing (a whopping 5 volumes), but not now… For now I'll just dump a sample so anons get a feel of the comic.

>you'll get endless shitting

By that one faggot who shits up every thread possible, regardless of content? I'm not worried about him.

>>1041726

Don't feed the trolls anon… Anyway, tell us what you think of the suggestions so far?

>>1041628

>Lord Fanny

>she

Leave this place and never return, CASUAL.

>>1041742

My only gripe about this one is that they go through an art change somewhere late in the book for a few issues and it's not nearly as good art. It's been ages since I read it though so I could be remembering wrong

>>1041887

No you're right, although I found the alternative art style kinda cute, the problem with it was that I couldn't recognize some of the characters right away (the non obvious ones at least).

Some comics do this thing where they temporarily get a guest artist to draw for them, it can be a breath of fresh air really.

>>1040042

>4th pic

Let me guess it's from cry for justice?

>>1041915

It's one of the Starman books that got memoryholed.

>>1039734

For some reason the main character reminds me of a really buff Freddy Mercury.

>>1042108

>>1039249

>anon stop necro-bumping his thread

Now thats just pathetic.

>>1042108

>Ha, I know plenty of both, but I'm not giving anyone else the work if they turn ME down.

When did this become fanfiction hour?

>>1042108

>They had a few LGBT discrimination stories, and gay safe sex stories

Don't these count as propaganda though? They could be interesting but not really in line with the topic of the thread.

>>1042132

>depicting them in a certain way to make the reader either sympathize with them or on the contrary reject them and mock them

That's true, it's just way more "subtle" than the usual propaganda pieces that are straightforward with their motives. But then again an experienced writer could make characters who are multi-dimensional enough, that different readers would have different opinions of them. Ever saw a movie where you ended up liking the antagonist despite being depicted as evil, more than the protagonist who's depicted as good? A well-written character isn't defined –or restricted– by his role in a given story.

>LGBT stories being deemed propaganda or not will depend on your own sensibilities about them

Not necessarily. Usually I hate seeing gay characters in fiction but sometimes they get it right and I don't end up hating the character, even in situations where he's not meant to be sympathized with in the context of the story.

>>1042133

I recognize the art style, definitely recall seeing a couple of his stories in that comics compilation mentioned at the start of the thread. It's a shame one of them was thinly-veiled propaganda and the other was smut comedy so not really fit for the thread either… If you know some worthwhile stories of his, why not post them?

>>1042133

I remember that guy, there was a movie made of The Killer Condom, I made a note of it because the monster design was by H.R. Giger.

>>1042150

I can remember the first version of this story in Heavy Metal.

>>1042157

I have that too, it came with the TPB of White Like She. It's not as fleshed-out as the full story that came after though.

>>1042110

well it is a thread about aids infected faggots, its by nature they make it about themselves. Shows no proof and treats every post like a facebook update, if it isnt about themselves its their gonorrhea infected dick.

>>1042132

>Imo asking for a fictional piece free of propaganda is pointless, LGBT themed or not.

It depends on how one sided it is. In order to constitute propaganda it needs to be a:) Overtly political and b:) unable or unwilling to present both positive and negatives about the argument.

If it's literally just "All people are gay and the ones that aren't are actually gay but wont admit it and they're homophobic racist mysoginerrrrrds" that's propaganda. For example the sex ed comics featuring multi ethnic people and people with disabilities? Or the comic about the trans 8 year old boy who thinks he's a girl. That's propaganda. Captain Planet also constitutes propaganda. But then you have comics like Watchmen that are incredibly political and ideological which aren't propaganda because it represents multiple contrary ideologies and they're all shown to be shit and don't work.

Propaganda doesn't try to be respectful to alternative viewpoints. It is clearly intentioned to paint an "us vs. them" narrative by making a strawmen out of the "them" while upholding the "US" as moral good, epitome of great, the only thing holding us back is "them" etc etc. When you loosen up the definition, sure you could toss all narrative art under that, but that's not entirely accurate.

>>1042155

>>1042154

>>1042153

>>1042152

>>1042150

Man, the story was alright but all the women have such bad manface.

>>1042234

The kid with the dreadlocks is white. She's just, I dunno, a Wook or a raver or something. It was the 90's.

>>1042235

Fuck, really? I honestly thought the main character was black too until I actually started at the beginning and looked at the cover. I guess it's just the guy's art style.

>>1042330

He could always pass as a bisexual who just isn't explicit about his gay side, that way you can win both teams over. It's probably for the best though, had this character landed in the wrong hands they would've made him into a flaming faggot, and nobody would've liked that.

>>1039249

Hey OP, how does it feel to be dying horribly from aids and spending your last moments desperately putting a facade to give the appearance of activity in your thread?

>>1042380

Merry christmas to you too, sorry for all the trouble this thread is causing. You can safely dismiss any reports you get from here, but please check the thread every now and then and clean up the off-topic meta shit. Also –I'm sure you can see it on your end– there's a faggot that keeps spamming the thread with multiple saged replies after every fucking comic dump / serious post, and probably spams reports too. It would be nice if you dealt with him.

Note to the faggot himself: the more you spam this thread, the sooner it will reach the bump limit, and the sooner there will be another one. :)

You can easily hide and move on, or you can continue being a sperg and being the cause for a new thread. Your choice.

>>1042389

If we go by the log, i dont think there's going to be much posting on /co/ in general.

>>1042390

>faggot autist IP hops to spread his cancer pretending to be several people

>vol bans all the IPs that the autist used, knowing full well they all belong to the autist because of his distinct autistic writing style

<hurr /co/ is gonna be an empty board with everyone banned :^(

It's like you've never visited, let alone managed, an imageboard.

>>1042330

He looks like a straighter North Star.

>>1042330

>>1042457

Story time?

>>1042473

>>1042457

>>1042330

Anon you don't need to samefag your own posts just to justify a storytime, you've been dumping your overrated gay porn regardless of what people actually wants. Considering the janitor just canned a random Anon because he wanted to Talk about Original Sin (gave him a big red public ban too), makes your samefagging attempts even more risky.

>>1042473

I wouldn't mind storytiming some Badger or Southern Squadron, but the early episodes of SS where 'Cross is gay are very hard to find and have never been reprinted, and Badger's gay personality, Max Swell, almost never surfaces. We see more of his black, female, dog, and French serial killer personalities than Max.

>>1042484

This is some next level paranoia.

>>1042631

This was more like the third printing.

The first stories were in the anthology Cyclone Comics, then they had their own book, then an American limited series edited from the original, then a few appearances in Southern Aurora Presents.

The stories were collected at the Dark Nebula site, but then Ted tried charging people to view 20 year old stories he'd already showed for free, and that went down like a cup of cold sick.

>>1042641

>the anthology Cyclone Comics

Which, unsurprisingly, I can't find anywhere online. Not even on the websites where I get my obscure european comics…

If you're an aussie, why not ask in your circles if there are copies anywhere that you can scan?

>>1042650

Yeah, Australian comics are underrepresented online. I really wanted to storytime Niteside & The Rock, Forerunners, Eureka, Dark Nebula, Phantastique, Pulse Of Darkness, Pox, Groovy Gravy, The Protectorate, Issue One, Platinum Grit, Bug & Stump, etc, but none of them have ever been uploaded.

Man, I would suck cock to read the Chubs, Spike and Harry comics again.

And there's an issue of Streetwise Comics I actually worked on that the bastards never even gave me a copy of…

>>1042683

Nice try, bunny boiler, but I ain't doxxing myself for you or anybody.

>>1042736

> I ain't doxxing myself

No one's asking you to dox yourself or anyone, just somesort of proof you're not making shit up.

Typical fucking faggot, making shit up just to garner attention.

>>1042745

Like what fucking proof you contrarian faggot, I'm supposed to find some asshole from a company that doesn't exist anymore to tell some random asshole on a chan that I did letraset shading and a cover layout on an educational comic for the Aboriginal community that was so obscure even they didn't save a copy for their own archives when I did work experience with them 30 years ago? What part of this story is so unbelievable to you? I was published five times in my brief career as a cartoonist and that was the only time I got paid. Now getting paid is a true fucking rarity in Australian comics and the part of the story you should be disputing.

Hell, I've never seen the finished comic, so I honestly don't know If I even got a credit.

There are plenty of hangers-on and failed-to-ascend fans in the industry, I don't know why it would be such a fucking stretch of the imagination to suppose that one of them gets on a second-string chan to get angry at how shit comics are these days.

DNB for off-topic.

>>1042761

It was bait and you fell for it, aussie-anon. Don't respond to shitposters whose only goal is to derail the thread.

>>1042784

>whose only goal is to derail the thread.

He's the one making the claims about working in said industry, I'm just calling out his bluff.

>>1043004

The one with the brown hair, is it a man or a woman?

>inb4 they're all men

>>1043011

I'd assume female because of the eyelashes

>>1043004

Image originally put a logo or something over Death Gaze's mushroom head, IIRC.

Visible helmet was just too much for 90's image, I guess.

>>1043018

They didn't add anything on top of the pin-up, but they did censor the bulge by editing it to look less apparent. You can take a look at the original pin-up shortly when I storytime Dart, it's only 3 issues and I'm yet to go through The Badger's 70 issues-long comic anyway…